t;
http://module-build.sourceforge.net/META-spec-new.html#recommends
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uld be very hard to judge without parsing the module.
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nd so I’ve got about
20 file-scoped lexical hashes. But that doesn’t at all mean the
code is really full of globals.
My fault for sloppy terminology -- I did not mean to include
lexicals. I meant 'use vars qw(...)' and 'our ...' variables
specifically.
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opyright" in
README, *pm and *.pod.
2) has_meta_yml_license -- check for a META.yml field named
"license". Module::Build supports this.
These tests should not care which license is claimed, just that there
is a license present.
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l UNINSTALL=1'.)
This solved the problem. The message described above went away,
and 'cover' reported only the results for the module under
development.
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Chris Dolan wrote:
In the last year as a Fink maintainer (Mac OS X debian-like
package manager), I've come across a couple CPAN modules that
have no license information at all. It's very frustrating. I've
submitted RT
is
P.S. On a marginally-related note, I released
Module::License::Report yesterday. Unfortunately, it's not
immediately useful for Kwalitee because it eval()s code from
Makefile.PL and/or Build.PL, and makes use of
Module::Depends::Intrusive which does more of the same.
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the results of private tests with their distributions as a trust-
based kwalitee system.
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Both positive and negative feedback is very welcome!
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Hello all,
I've just published an article about public vs. private regression
tests. I
has a recursive mode for finding tests. It's set by
the author, so you should be safe in this case, but it's a point
worth remembering.
*light bulb* And in fact, that could be the run-time trigger. Hmmm
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uot; and
then open cover_db/coverage.html in your browser. If you are using a
version of M::B older than 0.27_02, you may wish to manually delete
the whole cover_db directory between runs. Later M::B versions auto-
detect when cover_db files are out of date.
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On Jan 27, 2006, at 12:01 PM, Tels wrote:
On Friday 27 January 2006 18:48, Chris Dolan wrote:
On Jan 27, 2006, at 11:23 AM, Tels wrote:
Basically something like CPAN, but with much less network traffic
and much
less hassle for a user. Bonus points if it gives you stuff pre-
compiled
for
On Jan 27, 2006, at 12:30 PM, Tyler MacDonald wrote:
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* for windows only
* only includes Foo-Bar, but not it's dependecies
It will auto-install dependencies just like CPAN, I believe. And,
yes, it's currently Windows-only. Didn't y
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aries correctly, M::B just entered
core in 5.9.3. There has long been hope that M::B and CPANPLUS will
be in core for 5.10.
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do is have Andreas or Jos increment
the CPAN.pm/CPANPLUS.pm version and just about everyone would be
prompted to upgrade the next time they tried to install something.
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both those passing and
those failing.
You could try:
make test verbose=1 > out
and then search the output for "TODO"
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There is a class of tests that module authors perform that end users
are not expected to run. For example code coverage tests, spelling
tests, coding style tests, etc. These tests are
test". Presently, I simply include them all in my MANIFEST.SKIP so
they are not included in my uploaded package.
That's why I call these "author tests" and not "release tests" or
"exhaustive tests".
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be a
good way to motivate new authors to put more attention into testing.
I recommend Test::Distribution for this type of "default" tests. It
looks for .pm files in blib and performs a bunch of tests on them --
POD, compile, version, etc.
[snip]
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t makes sure it still works as Perl is upgraded and your
dependencies evolve.
Since I've got a terribly bad habit of inventing things that have
existing names, I'm sure someone will correct my on the two above
namings.
I think those are great names. Very clear.
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e this example is contrived, the "eval { require ... }"
idiom is used often in the wild, so this is not a wholly unrealistic
scenario.
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On Mar 5, 2006, at 3:55 PM, David Wheeler wrote:
On Mar 5, 2006, at 13:52, Chris Dolan wrote:
Advice? While this example is contrived, the "eval
{ require ... }" idiom is used often in the wild, so this is not a
wholly unrealistic scenario.
Of course it should be
eval { r
lcome). However, Adam Kennedy wrote one:
http://search.cpan.org/src/ADAMK/ThreatNet-Bot-AmmoBot-0.10/t/
01_compile.t
That function should probably be changed to use FindBin instead of
updir() calls.
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this, although that would be a huge addition to the dependency list.
With PAR, you could employ a whole separate .exe and probably even do
the core updates.
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nd was first released with perl 5
Memoize was first released with perl 5.007003
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think that's a price worth paying -- at least until we rewrite the
metric to actually test POD coverage (which is a decent proxy for POD
quality) instead of just checking for the presence of a t/
pod_coverage.t file (which is a weak proxy for POD quality, but
dramatically easier to measure).
like incorporating cpanratings into CPANTS (I
do NOT advocate that!) or getting download stats from CPAN (never
gonna happen) or adding voluntary "Someone installed module X" pings
from CPAN.pm.
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On May 23, 2006, at 10:34 AM, David Golden wrote:
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... just checking for the presence of a t/pod_coverage.t file
(which is a weak proxy for POD quality, but dramatically easier to
measure).
It doesn't check for the existence of a t/pod_coverage.t file. It
checks
the server.
Is there any interest in such a package?
Best wishes,
Tels
That sounds very similar to Adam Kennedy's PITA project. Yes, there
is great interest!
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t the first line of the Makefile to specify the path to
PARROT_DIR and run "make". My tests found a few bugs in Jerry's
grammar. My fixed version of that grammar is here:
https://svn.clotho.com/public/parrot-experiments/TAP/grammars/TAP.pg
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using out-of-date Module::Build::Compat boilerplate).
If the CPANTS "game" gets any M::I-using authors to upgrade, then it
has served its purpose.
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IMHO it likely counts as a CPANTS pass for now, but it may be a fail
in the future unless you update the Makefile.PL with a newer M::B as
bugs are discovered.
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On Jul 6, 2006, at 10:18 AM, A. Pagaltzis wrote:
* Chris Dolan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-07-06 16:30]:
IMHO it likely counts as a CPANTS pass for now, but it may be a
fail in the future unless you update the Makefile.PL with a
newer M::B as bugs are discovered.
To make sure we’re on th
ird parties with less dedication to Perl, thereby decreasing
the attractiveness of the language.
After all, software engineering is largely about reducing the exposed
complexity of a project.
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u thinking?)
Whoa, this is becoming an unexpectedly educational thread...
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perl HTML-Tagset
perl HTTP-Server-Simple
perl Test-Exception
perl Test-WWW-Mechanize
perl URI
perl WWW-Mechanize
perl libwww-perl
Something like that could be adapted to your purpose, maybe.
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talled copy of Foo itself. Perhaps that can be
accomplished by simply deleting lib and blib in Foo-1.00 before
running tests?
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> 'Inf';
use LWP::Simple qw(get);
while (1) {
ok(get('http://www.example.com/'));
sleep 60;
}
or is it something else entirely?
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y of
CPAN will improve. And the more closely the metrics match our real
quality goals, the bigger the quality delta we will achieve.
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-test skipping works
well, and is more appropriate for modules which may not have a
publicly-exposed revision control system.
*shrug* I could probably be convinced that your approach is better.
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at you're better off starting with a clean tarball as if it's a
fresh install.
The only reason I can think of for the post-make argument is to
preserve choices made during Makefile.PL, like Module::Install
optional prereqs.
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x.php/CPANTS_Quality_Goals
I'd be thrilled if others would look at what I wrote and improve it
or tear it apart. :-) I hope this isn't too much wheel re-invention...
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we have is what gets uploaded.
[...]
That's a very good point. I'm convinced. To restate what you've
said, CPAN is a better long-term software repository than any other
system for open source Perl programmers.
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README, meta.yml, Build.PL,
Makefile.PL, LICENSE/COPYING/COPYRIGHT, dslip, etc. It requires
CPANPLUS, so it might not be directly suitable for CPANTS, but there
is some stuff in there that could help.
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* Advocacy to get popular modules to state their licenses more
prominently
* Advocacy to get modules with inconsistently stated licenses (e.g.
DSLIP vs. POD) corrected
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\d*) ]? ## assumes a single
space, not \h+
\h* ? \h* ? \n
}
token status { <'not '>? <'ok'> }
token description { <-[#\n]>+ }
The description can't start with a number if there is a test number:
token descrip
s in the Perl core.
http://search.cpan.org/perldoc?IPC::Open3
IPC::Run3 is supposed to be good on Windows, but I haven't tried it
enough.
http://search.cpan.org/perldoc?IPC::Run3
Finally, you can try duplicating the STDOUT filehandle and saving it
in STDERR. Does this work as expected
g
* Every time you get a valid bug report, write a test that
reproduces the bug.
and of course
* Read "Perl Testing: A Developer's Notebook" for more ideas
http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/perltestingadn/
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) = @_;
my $includes = $doc->find('PPI::Statement::Include');
return if !$includes;
return any { $_->module() eq 'Test::More' } @{ $includes };
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"svn add" first... Fixed,
should work now. :-)
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@files = all_perl_files('blib'), grep {m/\.t\z/} read_dir('t');
plan tests => scalar @files;
for my $file (@files) {
critic_ok( $file, $file );
}
Of course, you could easily replace that use of File::Slurp with
opendir,readdir,closedir.
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Via that feed, I noticed this morning that your smoke machine has a
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modules = My::Test::SubClass Some::Other::Module
Test::More is always implicitly included. Are there any common
Test::More subclasses that I should add to the default list?
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HOR_TEST=1 and
run through all of the optional tests on all installed CPAN modules.
This should not be set on automated/smoke systems because an author
test is one which is only needs to succeed (or perhaps only *can*
succeed) on a developer's machine.
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On Oct 3, 2006, at 10:04 PM, Adam Kennedy wrote:
Christopher H. Laco wrote:
Chris Dolan wrote:
I've seen discussion of the right env var name has been batted
around
here and on the Module::Build list a couple of times without
resolution
or blessing. So, I hereby propose n
e. It should be easy for a 3rd-party developer to glance at
the .t file and figure out which envvar to use to turn on the author
tests. I think your abstraction is too obscure.
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;d be much happier with a term that points at the development or
authoring process.
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s what we use in Perl::Critic:
http://perlcritic.tigris.org/source/browse/*checkout*/perlcritic/
trunk/Perl-Critic/t/97_spelling.t?content-type=text/plain
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der that large or not. Perl::Critic currently has
29 stopwords not included in aspell-en.
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ot;).
A future version of this should try to use Pod::Parser like
Pod::Spell does.
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ext if ($file =~ /^(?:\d+[_-]?)?pod[_-]?coverage\.t$/);
# more boilerplate to be added later...
return 1;
}
return 0;
}
That said, I'm not a Module::CPANTS developer, so I'm not going to
dictate priorities. The META.yml prereqs check sounds great.
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ext if ($file =~ /^(?:\d+[_-]?)?pod[_-]?coverage\.t$/);
# more boilerplate to be added later...
return 1;
}
return 0;
}
That said, I'm not a Module::CPANTS developer, so I'm not going to
dictate priorities. The META.yml prereqs check sounds great.
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ed the crash.
In even scarier terms, would you prefer to see an RT or smoke report
about your module with the former or the latter detail?
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On Oct 30, 2006, at 11:34 AM, Michael G Schwern wrote:
The solution is to get authors to stop using test.pl.
That sounds like an important Kwalitee test to me!
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What should you do? You're not going to like this answer:
Don't use recursive test directories. :-)
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hange. We might as well
encourage people to change to the current spec.
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he latest PPI developer release v1.199_xx. The
array constructor stuff should be perfect. The hash constructor
parsing still needs some work to further disambiguate it from
anonymous blocks. (like map, grep, eval, sort, etc)
It never hit RT because I just fixed it myself instead of re
lists/listinfo/parseperl-discuss
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t the core Perl docs (or source code!),
then it should be rewritten to be less ambiguous.
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7;t know how to handle refs to $type");
2) return $total
So I actually count a complexity of 7 (num decision points + num
endpoints + 1) if I've understood the wiki definition correctly.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyclomatic_complexity
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On Dec 15, 2006, at 10:22 PM, Matisse Enzer wrote:
On Dec 15, 2006, at 7:52 AM, Chris Dolan wrote:
That can't be right. Negation does not contribute to complexity.
I think it is fair to say, that to a human, negation *can* increase
complexity:
if ( $foo ) {
# do some
On Dec 16, 2006, at 12:07 PM, Matisse Enzer wrote:
On Dec 15, 2006, at 10:13 PM, Chris Dolan wrote:
OK, I see. Perhaps I was distracted from your main point by
mention of cyclomatic complexity, which has a rather specific
definition.
Mea culpa.
In the next release I will change the
t there is some other thing going on with ($a == $b) that
perhaps, should be considered some other kind of complexity.
You're likely biting off more than you can chew. I recommend that
you take a lesson from Kwalitee and focus on implementing easily-
defined metrics first.
Chris
## no critic(StringyEval)
eval $str;
## use critic
Scoped style:
sub {
## no critic(StringyEval)
eval $str;
}
eval $str; # triggers a violation...
The scoped style is possible because we are using PPI to parse the
code into a DOM.
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_ok('http://localhost/', 'get home page') || bail;
$mech->content_contains('Home');
...
In this example, failing to fetch HTML is clearly bad news for all
subsequent tests and the C< || bail> is good self-documentation.
Other tests are less c
On Jan 24, 2007, at 1:25 PM, Nik Clayton wrote:
Chris Dolan wrote:
I don't like that very much. The implicit die() on test functions
will probably confuse subsequent readers of the code.
# Cause the listed functions to die on error
use Fatal qw(...);
Furthermore, I cannot be
tree of files per-test and wipe clean
upon exit. It seems to me that writing temp files to the build dir
should be discouraged.
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:W::M code, but it won't make anybody's head
explode trying to read the test code a couple years down the road.
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... run basic tests ...
for my $pdf_file (@test_docs) {
... run per-doc tests ...
}
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However, that would alter the last upload date to
2007. I often use the date of last upload as a clue when searching
for CPAN modules. *Usually* the stuff updated in 2006/2007 is better
than the stuff from 2001.
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at with Test::More it's a coderef, but not with My::Test::More. My
wild guess is that something in Exporter::Heavy up in
My::Test::More's ISA chain is blowing away the __DIE__ handler after
it gets set in Test::Builder.
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anged since then.
So, Test::Kwalitee either needs a quick patch to catch up to now or
an overhaul to auto-detect the kwalitee tests from M::C::K.
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reqs turned into mandatory ones, and any dynamic config you do in
Build.PL becomes static. However, if you make good default choices
in Build.PL that may just mean that the Makefile.PL-using end user
installs more of CPAN than they really need, which is definitely a
lesser evil than a bro
list ("yaml" is already taken)
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.cpan.org/dist/Perl-Critic/lib/Perl/Critic/DEVELOPER.pod
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Josh,
I'm not sure that I understand this message (probably because I'm not
a perl guts hacker), but I am intrigued by your enthusiasm. I
downloaded and read the Runops::Trace code -- it's always a little
surprising and interesting to me to see which parts of the Perl
internals are malle
On Jun 17, 2007, at 12:56 AM, Joshua ben Jore wrote:
On 6/16/07, Chris Dolan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Josh,
Josh, can you explain to us in a little more depth what this means?
Are you showing that certain input values follow the same path
through the code?
Yes.
It looks like th
re.pm
http://search.cpan.org/~nwclark/perl-5.8.8/pod/
perlthrtut.pod#Synchronization_and_control
And just to tease Josh a little:
http://www.everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=987739
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On Sep 22, 2007, at 9:06 AM, Salve J Nilsen wrote:
- Set up some kind of syndication feed [RSS, Atom] [somewhere
sensible] where one can read which distributions currently have a
"pre-release" status. The feed might be called "NEED TESTING" or
something like that. Make this feed visible on
On Sep 24, 2007, at 4:15 AM, David Cantrell wrote:
Andy Lester wrote:
On Fri, Sep 21, 2007 at 11:23:21AM +0100, David Cantrell
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
It appears that I can't make any changes without registering for
yet another bloody account. I already have too many.
You have a limit?
On Oct 28, 2007, at 9:31 AM, A. Pagaltzis wrote:
* Matisse Enzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-10-27 21:20]:
I suppose we need to bite the bullet and just find and replace
all the calls to 'print' with something else.
Select a tied filehandle? Not efficient… but quick to add.
That's a popular t
On Oct 28, 2007, at 6:12 PM, Scott McWhirter wrote:
You could use an IO::Handle based object wrapped around STDOUT/STDERR.
It doesn't really matter whether it's a glob filehandle or an
IO::Handle or a tied handle. The important part is the select()
which lets you avoid changing each and e
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