}
or is that what you ment by ignoring parser issues?
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which, of course, we'll have in Perl 6:
loop {
.search .DESTROY;
}
Larry Wall: puppet of the military-industrial complex? Next on The
Conspiracy Zone. ;)
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$caller = caller;
File.foreach('/usr/dict/words') {
print $caller eq caller ? ok : not ok
}
be ok or not ok? It has to be ok if mywhile is going to emulate a
while loop.
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lacking connectivity. I expect he'll give us word at some
point what the schedule is.
They've got connectivity all right. We've been getting plenty of
drunken ramblings on IRC from folks on the cruise.
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::export_to_level(...);
}
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Plus I remember being impressed with Ada because you could write an
infinite loop without a faked up condition. The idea being
on the above.
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This is my sig file. Is it not nify? Worship the sig file.
http://www.sluggy.com
find /usr/local/share/perl/ /usr/share
.
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Your words scratch the back of my eyes!
http://sluggy.com/d/010204.html
privacy.
(yes, I know you can emulate class variables via package globals like
$Class::blah, but I'm trying to look at it in a more uniform point of
view so that you can fully treat Classes themselves as being objects)
Class::Data::Inheritable anyone? :)
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to tcl or python, cuz I can never find clear information
about whether such an analog exists in those languages) is going away:
AUTOLOAD.
Going away? No way, it's SPREADING! We might wind up with AUTOGLOB, too.
http://dev.perl.org/rfc/324.pod
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On Thu, Nov 08, 2001 at 04:21:57PM -0800, John Rudd wrote:
So, does this mean my other heart's desire of operator overloading might
be coming forth?
Yeah, that was mentioned in Apoc and Exewhatever 3.
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distinguish between the normal
and in-place versions of functions without proliferating the number of
keywords.
chomp! $string;# how chomp() currently works
my $chomped_string = chomp $string;# like your chomped() function
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Considering how infrequently the return value of chop() and chomp() is
really used, and how easy it is to emulate the current chop() and
chomp() behavior with substr() and s///, I don't think it'll be a big
loss.
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On Tue, Oct 16, 2001 at 08:53:07PM -0500, David M. Lloyd wrote:
What about 'chomp?' for query but 'chomp' (no decoration) for operation?
Is chomp? just a bad example, or is there some utility in asking if a
string has already been chomped?
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on and act on this
thing.
# What would this look like if it were sorted?
@sorted_list = sort @list;
# Sort this list
@list.sort
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Me
is
indented. Like having s/^\s{4}//gm. So you get the equivalent of:
print
Sometimes\n.
form has to follow function\n.
all over the page.\n;
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@array;
# Sort in place.
sort! @array;
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The eye opening delightful morning taste of expired cheese bits in sour milk!
On Fri, Oct 05, 2001 at 09:50:53AM +0100, Richard Nuttall wrote:
my @images = qw( pic1 pic2 pic3) ^_ ('.jpg');
my @images = map { $_ _ '.jpg' } qw(pic1 pic2 pic3);
Hmmm, that's visually unappealing.
Just thinking out loud.
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Apocalypse).
Okay. That's a cop-out. He's basically saying that you can write
Candthen and Corthen yourself as:
snip
I understand that much. What I don't quite get is the utility.
There's some hand-waving in the RFC about making parsers easier.
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language. Apparently the global keyboard steering committee has
deprecated the vertical bar.
You don't know how many times I've heard people complain that Perl
isn't catering enough to the needs of IETF RFC authors. :-P
I have a feeling that echoing the IETF is just a coincidence.
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On Wed, Oct 03, 2001 at 02:26:47AM +0200, Bart Lateur wrote:
foreach_line { print } 'some/file';
You really like underscores, do you?
If all you got out of that thread was Schwern likes underscores then I
explained iterators really, really, really badly.
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compatibility--and I don't think because it's mathematically
redundant is a valid reason to bust compatibility for a tiny little
function like log().
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On Sat, Sep 08, 2001 at 12:00:24PM -0400, Dan Sugalski wrote:
pow : Raise x to the y power
You forgot biff, zap and womp!
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;
GORK: if ( 1 ) {
print Tin ;
goto GORK if $b ^= 1;
print \n;
next GORK;
}
}
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I
file you touch
leaves one open to be seekable...
Simple, just tie it so it only opens upon being used.
OR, and I have no idea why I never thought of this before, instead of
magic filehandles, just peek in %INC and open that file.
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On Sat, Sep 01, 2001 at 01:10:58PM -0400, Dan Sugalski wrote:
At 10:03 PM 8/30/2001 -0400, Michael G Schwern wrote:
Thinking about what Zhang was saying about multiple-dispatch not being
inherently OO. I think he's sort of right. Multiple-dispatch need
not be confined to method lookups
symbol table.
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That which stirs me, stirs everything.
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, not any of the modules it loads.
use Some::Module;
use Fcntl qw(:seek);
seek Some::Module::DATA, 0, SEEK_SET;
@their_code = Some::Module::DATA;
which only works if Some::Module has an __END__ block... but that
shouldn't be hard to fix.
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On Fri, Aug 31, 2001 at 11:25:17AM +0100, Nicholas Clark wrote:
Who said that my source file handle was seekable?
The problem is, it appears DATA is only opened if there's an __END__
or __DATA__ tag. I don't remember it working this way...
*shrug* We can fix that easy. :)
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the existing Class::Multimethods module
against normal method calls.
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I'm spanking my yacht.
(Bar $bar) : multi {
...
}
sub foo (Baz $baz) : multi {
...
}
...etc...
Obviously, there would be no inheritance. Otherwise, it's
just like multiple-dispatch where there's no superclass.
Handy, if it's not too hard to implement.
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for this?
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I know you get this a lot, but what's an unholy fairy like you doing in a
mosque like this?
around
saying Everything will be perfect when Perl 6 comes!
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Let's face it, said bearded Rusty Simmons, opening a can after the
race. This is a good
direction you get mind-bogglingly
silly things like finalize which I just learned of today.
I'm going to be giving a talk about just this sort of thing at JAOO to
a room full of Java people. Should be interesting.
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On Tue, Aug 28, 2001 at 10:47:35AM -0700, Damien Neil wrote:
On Tue, Aug 28, 2001 at 09:13:25AM -0400, Michael G Schwern wrote:
As the pendulum swings in the other direction you get mind-bogglingly
silly things like finalize which I just learned of today.
What's so silly about finalize
On Mon, Aug 27, 2001 at 10:58:00AM -0400, John Porter wrote:
You can, with C goto $foo; .
Problem is, it's *slower* (in p5 anyway) than the plain sub call.
By only 10%. Let's keep things in proportion here.
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On Mon, Aug 27, 2001 at 06:50:35PM -0400, Ken Fox wrote:
Michael G Schwern wrote:
Any time you want to implicitly pass @_, you can just as easily
*explicitly* pass it or use goto.
I never thought of using goto actually. goto $method; actually
looks clearer than the code I'm using
On Mon, Aug 27, 2001 at 06:02:50PM -0500, Garrett Goebel wrote:
From: Ken Fox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Michael G Schwern wrote:
Any time you want to implicitly pass @_, you can just as easily
*explicitly* pass it or use goto.
goto does screw up caller... so I wouldn't say *anytime
, 'Foo::bar'. So
'$Foo::bar' would remain.
Besides, Foo::$bar looks funny.
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conway: unit of mind expansion. One Conway == ~20 lines of Perl code
without copying before references were
introduced, but that's not a problem anymore. foo(@_) or goto foo
works just fine.
I can't think of any reason why this feature is useful anymore, and it
can be a really confusing behavior, so what say we kill it in Perl 6?
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if Cotherwise exists.
PS -1 is true, just to make sure that's clear.
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Hold on while I slip into something a little more naked.
On Thu, Jul 12, 2001 at 06:56:25PM -0700, Dave Storrs wrote:
On Tue, 10 Jul 2001, Michael G Schwern wrote:
You can always just do this:
my Value $foo;
And $foo will act like a normal scalar taking anything (your PMAW).
If that's the goal, I'd vote that it be spelled
which way the rounding goes) to
reflect the inaccuracies involved. 63 cm +/- 0.5 cm.
I have no idea if this is what Dan was thinking.
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If you got
just speculate, I'm going to go play with this idea for a
while.
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I was *meant* to mount your donuts.
in the parameter list (a la C++ function
templates)
- Provide a type hierarchy for all types (a la Haskell)
I think a type hierarchy makes much more sense than unleashing the hell
of templates on Perl.
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a type.
We could have Perl go through heroics to try and find $foo's first
assignment and imply a type from that, but I think that will rapidly
get Messy and Surprising.
my $foo;# PMAW
PMAW?
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sometimes reap interesting ideas. :)
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GuRuThuG make a channel called #Perl, and infest it with joking and
fun it doesnt make alot
functions is you have to rewrite the
function N times (where N == the number of different types you want to
handle). Its certainly a possiblity, it just seems rather inelegant.
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it will be very optional in Perl 6) what
problem is this solving?
And how would this solve the Mail problem put forth by Ziggy?
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I'm not actually Kevin
On Fri, Jul 06, 2001 at 12:41:42PM -0500, David L. Nicol wrote:
But would the game be worth the candle?
IMHO not really. Of all the potential quirks Perl's OO has, this is
one of the least quirky and least violated.
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On Tue, Jul 03, 2001 at 12:10:19AM +0200, Bart Schuller wrote:
The Apple Newton was programmed in NewtonScript, a prototype-based
language. http://www.cc.gatech.edu/~schoedl/projects/NewtonScript/ seems
like a nice overview.
Ahh, its derived from Self.
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Ziggy came up with a good example of when object inheritance makes
life easier. Basically, there are times when you'd want to override
individual methods of individual objects. Example below.
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From: Michael G Schwern
what I can do.
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my anus yearns now
warm paste fills me happily
saturday morning
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On Mon, Jul 02, 2001 at 04:18:31PM -0400, Michael G Schwern wrote:
On Mon, Jul 02, 2001 at 12:59:51PM -0700, David Whipp wrote:
Its not quite the same thing, but Java does have the concept of
anonymous classes (it names them 'inner' classes): Is Perl6 going
to have a similar concept?
Okay
On Mon, Jul 02, 2001 at 05:04:23PM -0400, John Porter wrote:
Michael G Schwern wrote:
Are they really necessary? You can get the same effect so many other
ways in Perl already,
That is a very unhelpful attitude.
We've already got everything and the kitchen sink proposed for Perl 6
On Mon, Jul 02, 2001 at 05:09:58PM -0400, John Porter wrote:
Perhaps this could be done by allowing to attach a name to q
lexical scope; perhaps this could be conflated with normal labels.
my package Foo {
sub bar { ... }
}
perhaps?
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LOOK AT
CLASS::OBJECT?!
They're NO SLOWER than normal objects, it uses all the normal OO
channels, it was very simple and small to implement and it WORKS!
Now, right this second, with perl 5.
I'll post the URL yet again...
http://www.pobox.com/~schwern/src/Class-Object-0.01.tar.gz
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-isa('Class::Object');
# $obj-new clones itself, so $same_obj-foo comes out as $obj-foo
my $same_obj = $obj-new;
print $same_obj-foo;
That's basically what you want, right?
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Oh yeah. Look at Class::Classless.
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Maybe they hooked you up with one of those ass-making magazines.
-- brian d. foy as misheard
we don't have to wait two years for Perl 6 to be able
to use it!
PPS A Class::Object proof-of-concept is en route to CPAN.
http://www.pobox.com/~schwern/src/Class-Object-0.01.tar.gz if its not
there yet.
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a superimposed scalar. ;) Not something you
want to have to do by choice.
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(Employee $sex);
}
but delegation is probably the way to go.
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purl Hey, Schwern! THERE IS A HUGE GAZORGANSPLATTEDFARTMONGERING
(@args). Ahh, the magic
of closures.
Wasn't Damian working on something like this? I looked at his
delegation stuff in perl5+i, but it didn't seem to have anything to do
with this sort of delegation.
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of them, probably because they mesh so well we don't even
think about it. You could consider functions which have default
arguments as polymorphic, then there's lots and lots of polymorphism
in Perl. But I digress.
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http://sluggy.com/d/010204.html
On Wed, Jun 06, 2001 at 10:28:41AM -0400, John Porter wrote:
Michael G Schwern wrote:
It will have to go for strict classes. @ISA will have to be locked.
strict classes?
strongly typed class?
Can a man make up gibberish in peace? ;)
Basically, any class which wants to be type-checked
On Wed, Jun 06, 2001 at 07:06:49PM -0700, Dave Storrs wrote:
But if we did, how could we hope to get a good new Star Trek
series? :
You're still hoping for a new, good Star Trek series??? You must be a
Cubs fan.
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On Wed, Jun 06, 2001 at 01:37:23AM -0500, Me wrote:
BD languages
What's BD?
Bondage and Discipline, scum! You're not a good enough programmer to
be trusted not to make mistakes! Now drop and give me fifty!
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but TMTOWTDI.
I am a bit worried about having to do so much pointer copying to
support this feature.
PS 'it' could take many forms
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Monkey tennis
(not hash deref) at -e line 1, at EOF
Execution of -e aborted due to compilation errors.
Prototypes don't work on methods. And I wouldn't hold them up as
being anything but a mediocre hack. Its not really type checking.
Of course, there's Attribute::Types for things like that.
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-checking. Doesn't do squat for
basic logic errors, for example.
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its namespace to the outside world on request.
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On Tue, Jun 05, 2001 at 12:46:52PM -0400, John Porter wrote:
Michael G Schwern wrote:
Prototypes don't work on methods. And I wouldn't hold them up as
being anything but a mediocre hack. Its not really type checking.
It's not just prototypes.
% perl -e '$r=\%h; print @$r
much of a problem, Perl doesn't
really need it and it causes all sorts of complications (as noted in
the other threads). Wouldn't hurt to have one, though.
I have a feeling we're arguing somewhat different things here.
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, but the changes cannot come from
outside its package.
What about lexicals?
Lexicals already have their own privacy rules.
How about:
package_name.finalize();
finalize package_name;
This is a different concept.
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On Tue, Jun 05, 2001 at 01:05:45PM -0700, Daniel S. Wilkerson wrote:
2 - You can't make a user defined type, like classes in Java, that
are compile time checked.
Well, you can sort of: Attribute::Types. But that's not what John is
talking about.
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://www.pobox.com/~schwern/papers/Closures_and_Accessors/Closures_and_Automated_Accessors.txt
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I'm not actually Kevin Lenzo, but I play him on TV.
where I'd like to have type-checking, but
most of the time I see it as unnecessary work. Then again, my notion
of typing comes from C++, a language devoted to unnecessary work.
I suppose, this is exactly why it will be optional.
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Yeah, but that's yicky and limiting and involves temp files and you
have to know everything you want to generate before you run the
program.
Anyhow, I think we can save the technique even with strict-types.
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? Take it or leave it. Strong types? Ummm, sorry.
But I think we've strayed into the topic of advocacy.
Interesting advocacy, nevertheless.
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I am
)
This should be fairly simple to implement (I'll leave that as an exercise
for the reader), and could probably be used as a starting point for
CPANTS.
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argument coming
from the thread next door?
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Stupid am I? Stupid like a fox!
of what this wins?
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a few characters. Take a typing class. ;)
Maybe it makes one-liners flow better?
PS I'm trying REALLY hard to not say AGGGH! KILL IT NOW BEFORE
IT GETS LOOSE!
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at the top of the block and reading down to find what $foo
is (trivially solvable by reading backwards...)
This is better solved by using smaller scopes/subroutines and
meaningful variable names.
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On Sat, May 19, 2001 at 11:26:36AM +1000, Damian Conway wrote:
Not. The run-time property is set on the *value* in $Foo, not on the variable
itself. Change the value, change the properties.
Ok, that makes me happy. :)
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, even after I've assigned a
false value to it, then yes, that does count as action-at-a-distance
and is probably a Bad Thing.
However, if assigning to $Foo clears the eariler assertion of truth,
then there's no problem.
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from the keyboard
with your hands up! ;)
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purl Hey Schwern! honk, honk, honk, honk, honk, honk, honk, honk,
honk, honk, honk, honk, honk, honk, honk
a night at the pub)
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Maybe they hooked you up with one of those ass-making magazines.
-- brian d. foy as misheard by Michael G Schwern
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Your average appeasement engineer is about as clued-up on computers as
the average computer hacker is about B.O.
-- BOFH
you've chosen, but the idea
sounds useful.
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GuRuThuG make a channel called #Perl, and infest it with joking and
fun it doesnt make alot
and the
flexibility of its parsing are known.
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List context isn't dangerous. Misquoting Gibson is dangerous.
-- Ziggy
compatibility is and where we need improvement.
Also, I'll see if I can get the JART off the ground.
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If you have to shoot, shoot! Don't talk
to ${var}) could be dragged in, but it seems like you're just trading
one bit of inconsistency for another.
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If you have to shoot, shoot! Don't talk
delegation. There's an RFC
dealing with this... http://dev.perl.org/rfc/193.pod
and a Perl5 module planned, Class::Delegation.
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An official I want
. Owner desperat.
Reward.' A telephone number was given for people to ring. The
landlord of the local pub was not very pleased. It was his number
that had been given and over 70 people rang him, claiming to
have seen his non-existent camel.
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but if you're
brave enough (or dumb enough) to take a bite it tastes wonderful.
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BOFH excuse #229:
wrong polarity of neutron flow
it right and had to switch from my normal
Clean font in emacs because it doesn't support high ascii to Neep.
Stupid American Computers aren't quite ready for the Unicode invasion.
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) is that just
too fitting?
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That which stirs me, stirs everything.
-- Squonk Opera, Spoon
and the AncientOS's?
IMHO that should be the indicator of whether Perl needs to provide a
particular sandbox feature. If we leave it up to the OS, how many
OS's leave no way (or very difficult ways) to do it. And how
radically different are the ones which provide it?
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and sockets and
limiting network usage could be done inside perl.
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And Solaris must be destroyed.
-- Peter Miller
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