I greatly appreciate the encouraging off-list e-mails I have
been getting the past few days. The fact that no-one on this
list knows I'm taking a vacation has me breaking my vow to
not touch any device more complex than a media appliance
until I return and resume normal operations may 28, to
there must
be a way.
Maybe a class could define the method new_from($obj) which would be called if it
existed, and whose return value would be what was assigned to the class-hinted
variable.
Is this going to be still-born?
david
--
(unbalanced brackets are really annoying
The brazen heresy continues...
http://mail.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/TERN-discuss
On Sunday, October 01, 2000 1:37 AM, Perl6 RFC Librarian
[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
This and other RFCs are available on the web at
http://dev.perl.org/rfc/
=head1 TITLE
Improvement needed in error messages (both internal errors and die function).
Feel free to put anything you like
.
The hubristic hope is that authors of asynchronous frameworks will
standardize on these
interfaces: ready, set_callback, callback_queue.
Thanks for listening, and I'll take my answer off the air. :-)
--
David L Nicol
Aesop's fables, with text-sensitive advertising:
http://cronos.advenge.com/pc
airs with the previous ?m, if there was one that
was matched. The | character separates or'ed sets consistent with other
regex patterns.
You can do that, or you can say it's done with backreferences (as noted
above)
-Nate
David Corbin wrote:
I never saw one comment on this, and the more I think ab
you
need ( to match ) not ( to match (. A ?[ list should specify for each
element what the matching element is perhaps
(?[( = ),{ = }, 01 = 10)
sort of hashish in style.
Perhaps the brackets could be defined as a hash allowing (?[%Hash)
Richard
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David Cor
Some stuffbr
/p
Finally, tags which take arguments:
div align="center"Stuff/div
Would require some type of "this is optional" syntax:
/(?div\s*\w*)Stuff(?)/
Perhaps only the first word specified is taken as the tag name? This is
the XML/HTML spe
by
those who need them?
In principle, that's a very Perlish thing to do...
-Scott
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Jonathan Scott Duff
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David Corbin
Mach Turtle Technologies, Inc.
http://www.machturtle.com
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On Sunday, October 01, 2000 1:38 AM, Perl6 RFC Librarian
[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
This and other RFCs are available on the web at
http://dev.perl.org/rfc/
=head1 TITLE
Allow multiply matched groups in regexes to return a listref of all matches
=head1 VERSION
Maintainer:
David Corbin wrote:
Ariel Scolnicov wrote:
So how do I make Cfoo into an array in the first place? Well, I say
something like Cfoo = (1,2,3). But wait -- that's ambiguous! Is
Cfoo now a copy of the list (1,2,3) (in which case it's an array),
or is it a reference to (1,2,3
"David L. Nicol" wrote:
Consider the following syntax:
my var; # declaring a scalar
my array[]; # declaring an array
my hash{};# declaring a hash
For the remainder of the enclosing block, the barewords var,
array and hash are to be interpreted as
.
--
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Mach Turtle Technologies, Inc.
http://www.machturtle.com
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@funx, sub {
print "I'll take a $name one, please, with @_.\n";
};
}
snip
--tom
Or consider this pseudo code -
open file
lock file
dump file
file gets removed
--
David Corbin
Mach Turtle Technologies,
things can
distinguish Perl from the other languages like pattern matching once
did. It strikes me as one of those things that are going to end up
adding a whole lot of power that wasn't expected, once people figure
them out.
--
David Corbin
Mach Turtle Technologies, Inc.
http://www.mach
this one.
# I'm not sure at all about these - I tend to avoid interpolation of
arrays and hashes for "safety"
$x = "xx@{array}yy"
$x = "xx{array[]}yy"
--
David Corbin
Mach Turtle Technologies, Inc.
http://www.machturtle.com
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revision that isn't in the old one
and warn the user.
I assume that this is really just another very small .pm file.
Thoughts?
--
David Corbin
Mach Turtle Technologies, Inc.
http://www.machturtle.com
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the four I posted, originally, I've added two. Here's my
working list.
native pattern matching;
list manipulation
aweswome text processing.
It's application glue (thanks Tim)
Ability to write powerful 1-line programs.
Make easy things easy and hard things possible. (paraphrased, I
suspect)
--
(apply regular expression and only
keep keys that match)
--
Bron ( but I don't think the ugliness is worth it in the end.. )
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you'd have to be consistent in what
you put in front of the text lines (and in the whitespace prefix
definition).
--
Bart.
Why not make the details of this controlled by a pragma?
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"David L. Nicol" wrote:
Dan Sugalski wrote:
I do want to have a set of C/XS/whatever sources as part of the test suite
as well--right now perl's test suite only tests the language, and I think
we should also test the HLL interface we present, as it's just as
important in
: Thursday, August 31, 2000 9:31 AM
- - To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
- - Subject: Re: the C JIT
- -
- -
- - On Thu, 31 Aug 2000, David L. Nicol wrote:
- -
- - Perl looks, and AFAIK has always looked, like "C plus lune
noise" to
- - many people.
- -
- - I think Perl looks like "C plus moon n
On Wednesday, September 27, 2000 4:17 AM, Tom Christiansen
[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
This is screaming mad. I will become perl6's greatest detractor and
anti-campaigner if this nullcrap happens. And I will never shut up
about it,
either. Mark my words.
Quote from Larry: "I have a
On Wednesday, September 27, 2000 10:21 AM, John Porter [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
wrote:
Philip Newton wrote:
On 26 Sep 2000, Johan Vromans wrote:
By the same reasoning, you can reduce the use of curlies by using
indentation to define block structure.
What an idea! I wonder why no
- -Original Message-
- From: Russ Allbery [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
-
- Perl6 RFC Librarian [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
-
- However, lack of C\v represents a special case for a C programmer to
- learn. C\v isn't used for anything else in double quoted
- strings, nor
- is it used in
I'm afraid I had a family crisis yesterday, else another RFC would have been
submitted.
Part of Perl's problems, a severe internal problem that has external (user
side) consequences, is that Perl does *not* have anyone to speak policy with,
while the community itself is submerged in issues of
On Sunday, October 01, 2000 4:02 PM, Jean-Louis Leroy [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
wrote:
The Perl-KGB-elite has got to go, and a free republic must replace
it.
I wouldn't go as far as your entire post, neither in form nor content,
but I do have concerns about the sociopsycho(patho)logy of
*All* communities have this. It's the nature of people. Pretending it might
be otherwise is to paint a rather pleasant utopian fantasy that,
unfortunately, can't exist. (At least not one that has people in it) It's
one of the common failings of people involved in open source projects.
Tad McClellan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sorry to mention the code name thing again, I thought the
whole endeavor rather silly.
But I just stumbled upon the dictionary definition below, so
I submit it for due (mis)consideration:
pearly everlasting:
n. A rhizomatous
As far as *I* am concerned, the middle one is wrong (although I believe it
is considered correct in some parts of the world), and whether to use the
first or the thrid form would depend on context.
--
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The voices said it's
"Bryan C. Warnock" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, 05 Jan 2001, Piers Cawley wrote:
But, but... 0.21 is *not* 'point twenty one', it's 'point two one',
otherwise you get into weirdness with: .21 and .210 being spoken as
'point twenty one' and 'point two hundred (?:and)? ten' and all
dialect of
English is correct for all English speakers. It most obviously isn't.
--
David Cantrell | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.cantrell.org.uk/david
The voices said it's a good day to clean my weapons.
I have an idea. Send that japanese to Larry and have him translate it.
However he translates it, it's official.
p
Jeff Okamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, Jan 05, 2001 at 09:42:12PM -0500, Brian Finney wrote:
say we start with this number
123,456,789
one hundred
Jeanna FOx [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Everybody seems to be missing the fact that jwz bitching about Java's
"32 bit non-object ints" means that at least he thinks they could be
salvaged. What would he think of Perl's "224 bit non-object ints"?!
Don't get smug because Perl can iterate over an
Jarkko Hietaniemi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The desire to know the name of the runtime platform is a misdirected
desire.
What you really want to know is whether function Foo will be there,
what
kind of signature it has, whether file Bar will be there, what kind of
format it has, and so
Perhaps you meant that Perl 6 is going to have homogeneous arrays, in
which case an array of ints would keep 32 bits (per value) of int data in
the array and auto-generate the extra flags and stuff when a value is
extracted from the array. That's possible, but it's a special case of small
"Branden" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well, mandatory locking is something we should definetly NOT have in Perl6.
Most of perl's code today is not threaded, and I believe much of it will
continue to be this way. The pseudo-fork thread behaviour that is being
proposed also makes this ok. Even if
"Branden" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The thing with mandatory locks per variable, is that as long as you only
want to access _that_ variable, it's ok, but if you want to make several
uses of several variables and want to do it all at once, you've got a
problem.
[ big snip ]
Sorry, I
James Mastros [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Why can't we change the meaning of time() slightly without changing to a
different function name? Yes, it will silently break some existing code,
but that's OK -- remember, 90% with traslation, 75% without. being in that
middle 15% isn't a bad thing.
On Wed, Jan 31, 2001 at 04:43:38PM -0500, Dan Sugalski wrote:
The core's going to look big, but be small
What, like am inside-out TARDIS?
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Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced
** I
John Porter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Simon Cozens wrote:
John Porter wrote:
But you need to remember it anyway, so remembering it for time() is
no added burden.
Uhm. NO! Remembering that $x+1 things have changed is an "added
burden"
over remembering that $x things have
James Mastros [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The idea is [for Larry] to declare "no, it isn't". Otherwise, you have to
do refcounting (or somthing like it) for DESTROY to get called at the right
time if the class (or any superclass) has an AUTOLOAD, which is expensive.
I'm coming in halfway
James Mastros [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[snip about DESTORY predictablity not being neccessary]
You're probably right about that, Branden. Quite nice, but not neccessary.
Hmm, I'd have to say that predictability is very, *very* nice,
and we shouldnt ditch it unless we *really* have to.
[ lots
Dan Sugalski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At 04:38 PM 2/15/2001 -0300, Branden wrote:
Yeah. Beginners. I was one too. And I remember always falling on
these...
But that's OK, since we probably don't want any new Perl
programmers...
I've skipped pretty much all this thread so far, but I
Steve Simmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Paul Johnson wrote:
Has anyone considered the problems associated with XS code, or
whatever
its replacement is?
Pardon my ignorance, but what's XS code?
Simply put (and paraphrastically, so don't nitpick, anyone), XS is using a
funky type of
yaphet jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Johan Vromans [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
John Porter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
As someone else said before me, Perl should not be changed
Just Because We Can. Aspects which have proven usefulness and
are deeply engrained in the Perl
Nick, make a decision. As for myself, I won't sit back and watch this.
yaphet jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
despite all "cyber" appearances to the contrary, i'm one of you - but
who?
I've been looking back through my archives trying to figure out who you
are. You are certainly not someone
yaphet jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
this is completely false when applied to real programming languages.
Please disclose what language you represent.
= example 1: php
= relatively easy to learn
. retains basic perl syntax
. less cryptic (but more verbose)
.
yaphet jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Feeding the troll:
careful with the troll talk: remember, your god's favorite book
is the "lord of the rings"...chock full of trolls...and hobbits, too!
= example 2: ruby
= now more popular than python in its native japan
Python isn't
[subject]: "It's funny. Laugh."
I know. I was having fun. We haven't had a lurktrollmuffin in here before
and it was a good diversion from the drollery of waiting...
'Sides, I happen to _like_ defending Perl from nonsensicals, especially
particularly abusive ones.
Simon Cozens [EMAIL
Bart Lateur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, 21 Feb 2001 17:32:50 -0500 (EST), Sam Tregar wrote:
On Wed, 21 Feb 2001, Bart Lateur wrote:
Actually, it's pretty common. Only, most languages are not as
forgiving
as perl, and what is merely a warning in Perl, is a fatal error in
perl -le '$n=1; print "$n \t",((1 + (1/$n))** $n) while $n*=1.001'
[...]
When to throw away
a result as meaningless is certainly an important piece of wisdom,
I do not know any programming languages that do it for you
-- issue a warning when you've overloaded your accuracy instead
"David Grove" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
"Helton, Brandon" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Please CC Otto in all replies concerning this topic. I want to make
sure
he
reads how wrong he is about Perl and its readability and I think
Simon
sums it
up perfec
OK, before this *completely* heads into the direction of advocacy,
which
it's dangerous close to anyway, you need to qualify that.
Uh, have you followed this thread? It's nothing but another perlbashing
session by a verbosity monger who can't handle $.
From: Russ Allbery [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
we can just flat-out say "We may optimize your
sort function"
I am strongly in favor of that approach. I see no reason to allow for
weird side effects in Perl 6.
Let me second the motion. "Allow optimisation" should be the default. A
From: Dan Sugalski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
I'm hoping to have this stage of optimization in perl. Off by
default with
a normal parse-and-go run (though certainly enableable if you
want), on by
default with the bytecode compiler.
Don't forget about run-time information: You could
I tried to comment on "apocalypse" in Larry's most likely sense, but there
was a mail flub (now corrected).
Apocalypse is a greek word meaning that which comes out from (apo- eq away
from) hiding, i.e., revelation. In the biblical sense, it refers to
revealing that which was previously unseen or
One-liners run on a Perl 6 binary should just be Perl 6 code. Do we
really have to worry about backwards compatibility with one liners?
Hmm... programs that have perl one-liners inside them might be
troublesome.
Why not:
perl -e 'perl 5 one-liner'
perl --cmd 'perl 6 one-liner'
i.e.
Simon Cozens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, Apr 05, 2001 at 11:42:23AM +, David Grove wrote:
Apocalypse is a greek word meaning that which comes out from (apo- eq
away
from) hiding, i.e., revelation. In the biblical sense, it refers to
revealing that which was previously
James Mastros wrote:
print $::OUT http://www.wall.org/~larry/index.html;
Please, no! A URL isn't a /new/ type of literal, really.
Either it's a wierd form of a literal list, or it's a
wierd type of file name, so you should open() it. Or it's
a self-quoting literal, like
John Porter wrote:
$mySite = http://www.foo.bar/text.html;
Vs.
$mySite = new URL 'http://www.foo.bar/text.html';
I am far from convinced.
Simon Coxens wrote
A language that doesn't have everything is actually easier to program
in than some that do.
-- Dennis M. Ritchie
John Porter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
David Whipp wrote:
A language that doesn't have everything is actually easier to
program
in than some that do.
The obvious reply is: "There's more than one way to do it"
To which the obvious reply is:
'Although the P
John Porter wrote
I'm sure you don't want to write "$a = new Integer '32'".
Of course. That would be unbearably absurd.
But how often do you have to write expressions that
operate on three or more URLs? Or even two?
How many perl instrinsics return URLs? How many
perl intrinsics
Given that Perl 5 internals post 5.004 caused the need for a rewrite
anyway, I'd imagine that this would be a particularly horrid idea. The
Perl 5 path is almost dead: adventurers and Win32 users are the vast
majority using it at all. Add Solaris 8 1/01 to the list of OS's that have
completely
Dan Sugalski wrote
At 12:19 PM 4/16/2001 -0700, Peter Scott wrote:
Or were you espousing the notion that perl 6 programs should
be able to contain sections of perl 5 code? That gives me
strange palpitations.
This is what I've been arguing against. Unless I misunderstand
(and it
we're done with Perl 6, we'll have a major competitor to the .NET
platform itself, even more so than Java is a competitor. Or are we thinking
of a merge? Or are we thinking on a totally separate line that just has a
few similarities?
Everyone else: Comments?
David T. Grove
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
am seeing some similarities between some of the proposed goals of
Perl 6 and the .NET platform.
. . . many things in .NET have been discussed similarly here.
That's because .NET attempts to address real-world issues.
The goals of .NET are not evil in and of themselves, you know.
Depends
-Original Message-
From: Jarkko Hietaniemi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 5:26 PM
To: David Grove
Cc: Perl 6 Language Mailing List
Subject: Re: .NET
(still waiting
for something original for a change).
You are saying that the Clippy wasn't
is = typing, inheritance, etc.
has = composition, aggregation, etc.
True, but those are basic OO concepts, which don't neatly apply to
property-lists (a very old Lisp concept that Perl6 is adopting).
is does seem to imply an OO is-a relationship. So lets run
with it!
If $foo is an
difficult to apply to the upcoming completed language. ;-)
BTW, what happened to meta? After a server outage of some length I believe I
was removed, but it appears no longer to exist when I try to subscribe.
David T. Grove
Blue Square Group
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
-Original
Hungarian notation is any of a variety of standards for organizing
a computer program by selecting a schema for naming your variables
so that their type is readily available to someone familiar with
the notation.
I used to request hungarian notation from programmers who worked for me,
until
snip
sane indentation by making it part of the language, Perl is a
language that enforces a dialect of hungarian notation by making
its variable decorations an intrinsic part of the language.
But $, @, and % indicate data organization, not type...
Actually they do show type, though not
didn't do it because it would have taken $600 to prove a point.
David T. Grove
Blue Square Group
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-Original Message-
From: Bart Lateur [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2001 10:51 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Apoc2 - STDIN
/me ponders the use of a cat in that context... Furball?
David T. Grove
Blue Square Group
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-Original Message-
From: Simon Cozens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2001 10:55 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Apoc2 - STDIN
-Original Message-
From: John Porter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2001 11:51 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: what I meant about hungarian notation
David Grove wrote:
$ is a singularity, @ is a multiplicity, and % is a
multiplicity of pairs
[...] subject to ethnic
cleansing. Culture wars arise spontaneously, but that should not deter
us from enabling people to build new cultures. [...]
Does that mean we can nuke Redmond and move on to reality in corporate IS
now?
};P
Core Perl is probably trademarked to Sun Microsystems. ;-)
David T. Grove
Blue Square Group
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-Original Message-
From: John L. Allen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2001 1:29 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Apoc2
As my Con Law professor was fond of saying, Horse hooey!*
Camel cookies.
;-)
These types of issues are not nearly so clear cut as many company's
would have people believe. E.g., O'Reilly is book publisher that
engages in the business of publishing and selling books for a
profit. They
-Original Message-
From: Simon Cozens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2001 8:01 AM
To: Dave Mitchell
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: The 5% solution
On Thu, May 10, 2001 at 10:19:10AM +0100, Dave Mitchell wrote:
to be such that the writing of the Perl 5 to
/me likes. /me likes a lot.
David T. Grove
Blue Square Group
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-Original Message-
From: Dave Hartnoll [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2001 8:56 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Apoc2 - STDIN concerns : new mascot
Nope, I still think most ordinary people want different operators for
strings than for numbers. Dictionaries and calculators have very
different interfaces in the real world, and it's false economy to
overgeneralize. Witness the travails of people trying to use
cell phones to type
-Original Message-
From: John Porter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2001 11:58 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: what I meant about hungarian notation
Larry Wall wrote:
: do you think conflating @ and % would be a perl6 design win?
Nope, I still
changing how people fundamentally
view their language. Apocalypse two made me a believer.
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On Thu, May 10, 2001 at 11:55:36AM -0700, Larry Wall wrote:
If you talk that way, people are going to start believing it.
[snip]
Some of us are are talking that way because we already
beleive it. You can't make the transition from Attic
Greek to Koine without changing
-Original Message-
From: Adam Turoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2001 3:31 PM
To: David Goehrig
Cc: Larry Wall; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Perl, the new generation
On Thu, May 10, 2001 at 12:13:13PM -0700, David Goehrig wrote:
On Thu, May 10, 2001
it is. ;-)
David T. Grove
Blue Square Group
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-Original Message-
From: Larry Wall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2001 6:05 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: On Vacation
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
: And about the whole
throwing-out-baby-in-one-grand-bathwater-disposal-motion
Edward Peschko wrote:
As to what the combined
$bar[$foo]
would mean: that depends on what $bar contains.
I like visual clues to tell me
what type of variable
something is. And I disagree strongly with trying to
steamroller the language's
design paper-flat as much as I
On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 01:25:51PM +0200, Bart Lateur wrote:
There must be some reason why a language like Sather isn't more popular.
I think that iters are part of the problem.
That smacks of the Politician's Syllogism:
Something is wrong.
This is something.
Therefore this
On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 04:50:17PM -0400, John Porter wrote:
Pardon my indelicacy, but - Screw how it looks in Perl5.
I'm not telling you how it *looks* in Perl 5, I'm telling you (in Perl 5
terms) what it will *mean*.
nice save
p
--- Dan Sugalski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Oh, didn't Larry tell you? We're making perl's parser locale-aware so
it uses the local language to determine what the keywords are.
I thought that was in the list of things you'd need to take into
account when you wrote the parser... ;-P
to forego poor-man's error
handling for exceptions and verbosity I'd be programming in C++ with PCRE.
David T. Grove
Blue Square Group
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
David Grove writes:
: That's not how I see it. The filehandle is naturally true if it
: succeeds. It's the undef value that wants to have more information.
: In fact, you could view $! as a poor-man's way of extracting the error
: that was attached to the last undef.
:
: If I were
Where's the likes of David Grove when you need one?
I don't even know what you're talking about.
Leave me alone. I'm learning Python...
again.
p
-Original Message-
From: Vijay Singh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2001 10:02 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Python...
Python? Didn't know you were so into tuples...
I thought your head would be turned by Ruby ;-)
It is. But I'm
Perl is far more practical than experimental.
Not at the moment. That's the problem.
(Note the subtle subject change back to its original intent.)
p
Michael G Schwern [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
Of course, there's problems of order of definition. What happens if
Bar.pm is loaded before Foo? Dunno.
simple sematics can be defined. If we see a declaration:
package Foo is encapulated;
then we throw an error if the namespace, Foo,
Previously, on St. Elsewhere...
Simon(e) writes...
But of course, I'm sure you already know what makes
good language design, because otherwise you wouldn't
be mouthing off in here...
Why is it that Me is *mouthing off*, but you're not? Why is that?
What makes you so *special*? The
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From: Simon Cozens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 3:46 AM
To: Vijay Singh
Cc: Me; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Multi-dimensional arrays and relational db data
On Sun, Jun 10, 2001 at 10:13:28PM -0800, Vijay Singh wrote:
Why is it
From: Damian Conway [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 4:06 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: suggested properties of operator results
I think we will see n-ary comparisons allowed in Perl 6:
if ($x $y $z $foo) {...
but as special case syntactic sugar
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