Re: Fwd: perl6 INC

Thanks, very much. That talk inspired unhappiness in me, and I've even written my thoughts out, but as all I've got is an unconstructive rant, I'm keeping it as an inspiration until I can offer my own perl6 package manager that suits my prejudices. A sample of one: if the problem is that

Re: Fwd: perl6 INC

I would also suggest stealing ideas from other packagers Debian have Rakudo 2016.04 in sid https://packages.debian.org/sid/rakudo They have also split out nqp and moarvm packages. S On 11 May 2016 at 16:14, Steve Mynott wrote: > Using an install outside the RPM/spec

Re: Fwd: perl6 INC

nqp and moarvm are also split out in Fedora. I have just succeeded in building panda (from panda's GIT) with a rakudo star (lite) from Fedora. I tried to use --prefix with bootstrap.pl. This built modules but did not store them the right way (in hash). So useless at the end. **perl

Re: Fwd: perl6 INC

On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 10:46 AM, Moritz Lenz wrote: > On 05/11/2016 04:30 PM, Bennett Todd wrote: > >> Thanks for the explanation. Sounds like an unfortunate situation, rather >> than letting the system admin choose modules within the limits of >> filesystem namespace, it's

Re: Fwd: perl6 INC

On 05/11/2016 04:30 PM, Bennett Todd wrote: Thanks for the explanation. Sounds like an unfortunate situation, rather than letting the system admin choose modules within the limits of filesystem namespace, it's using a separate database, opaque to filesystem tools. I hope this is just a

Re: Fwd: perl6 INC

It's not a hack and the use of SHA files is basic to the requirements of how Perl 6 precomp works (totally different to how Perl 5 modules are used). Perl 6 is using bytecode not the actual perl module. This is also a moving target with work continuing. nine gave a good talk on this at the

Re: Fwd: perl6 INC

Thanks for the explanation. Sounds like an unfortunate situation, rather than letting the system admin choose modules within the limits of filesystem namespace, it's using a separate database, opaque to filesystem tools. I hope this is just a temporary hack until a mature solution is hammered

Re: Fwd: perl6 INC

I never got panda to install, so I use zef. The only module I've installed was Readline, to shut up the blind nagging whenever I run perl6 for a repl. Zef seems to have left files containing the string Readline in share/perl6/site, plus .perl6/precomp. The filenames are hashes, perhaps from a

Re: Fwd: perl6 INC

Sure better to have individual units as individual RPM. I think Fedora is currently trying to succeed in rakudo-star full installation before splitting. And on my hands the full installation does not work if I uncomment the module-install (issues with paths searched by panda bootstrap). So,

Re: Fwd: perl6 INC

I think you're right, and the rpm packaging of perl5 is rather similar -- but simpler, as there aren't the bifurcations into moarvm vs jvm, and panda vs zef. But perl6 is young yet. Happily, it's not too hard to package a single compiler, e.g. rakudo-moar. And as long as you're comfy with

Fwd: perl6 INC

It's probably useful experimenting with star itself and RPM but I suspect bundling many modules inside one RPM isn't really the RPM way. Probably there should be something like "rakudo-moar", "rakudo-docs-noarch" RPM and a "rakudo-moar-panda" (or similar name) RPM. Handling rakudo-star

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Agreed. I too found panda didn't successfully install, so I just switched from rakudo-star to rakudo, and I use zef. This package looks like it tries to build rakudo-star, panda doesn't, it installs what bits succeed, and quietly ignores those that don't. I think the packager should work from

Re: perl6 INC

Rakudo Star = Rakudo plus Perl 6 modules. It's a distribution of modules with a particular version of rakudo and probably doesn't fit easily into the RPM model. If you aren't including the Perl 6 modules it's not Rakudo Star but plain "Rakudo" and should be named as such. and Fedora calling it

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It doesn't sound you are using Rakudo Star but a vendor packaged version of plain Rakudo. It's Rakudo Star, but packaged by Fedora Maybe Fedora have packaged panda separately and its in another SRPM/spec file? Panda is not available. Fedora does not look to support Perl6 actively for now.

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It doesn't sound you are using Rakudo Star but a vendor packaged version of plain Rakudo. Maybe Fedora have packaged panda separately and its in another SRPM/spec file? Do you have a URL to the file(s) you are using? S On 11 May 2016 at 13:28, Sebastien Moretti

perl6 INC

Hi I have installed Perl 6 Rakudo Star 2016.04 but it comes without panda. So I try to install panda and its requirements (Shell::Command, ...) I think the best place for those libraries are in /usr/share/perl6/lib or /usr/share/perl6/site|vendor/lib Unfortunately once installed, perl6