RE: Days of the Week abbreviated

2004-05-10 Thread C Bobroff
On Sun, 9 May 2004, Omid K. Rad wrote: > "There is no abbreviated form for the weekday names in Persian. However, > in certain cases such as in the month calendar headers it is acceptable > to use the first letter of weekdays. The direction is also from right to > left." Maybe you should also me

RE: Days of the Week abbreviated

2004-05-09 Thread Omid K. Rad
On Sun, 9 May 2004, Behdad Esfahbod wrote: > I'm not sure how "month calendar" makes sense in English. > What about writing "in tabular representations"? I checked it up. "month calendar" is a term used for the calendars with a month view. I found this in use even more than "monthly calendar". Ab

RE: Days of the Week abbreviated

2004-05-09 Thread Behdad Esfahbod
On Sun, 9 May 2004, Omid K. Rad wrote: > > > [3.2.3] > > > There is no abbreviated form for the weekday names in Persian. > > > However, it is common to use the first letter of weekdays in the > > > month calendars > > ^^ > > Common? > > How about, "acceptable" or something li

RE: Days of the Week abbreviated

2004-05-09 Thread Omid K. Rad
> > [3.2.3] > > There is no abbreviated form for the weekday names in Persian. > > However, it is common to use the first letter of weekdays in the > > month calendars > ^^ > Common? > How about, "acceptable" or something like that? Well, right. How about this phrase: [3.2.3

Re: Days of the Week abbreviated

2004-05-03 Thread Arash Zeini
In a message dated Monday 03 May 2004 01:47, Behdad Esfahbod wrote: [...] > And the third one in the screenshot attached is the first layout, > but instead of single letter day of week names, I have used > something more intuitive, but apparently it's quite a failure and > should never be used. >

Re: Days of the Week abbreviated

2004-05-02 Thread Behdad Esfahbod
On Sun, 2 May 2004, Roozbeh Pournader wrote: > On Sat, 2004-05-01 at 19:38, Behdad Esfahbod wrote: > > the *correct* way is to order from right to left. > > I confirm. The screenshot I sent was just for making people see > something. The preferred direction is right to left and then top to > botto

Re: Days of the Week abbreviated

2004-05-02 Thread C Bobroff
On Sun, 2 May 2004, Omid K. Rad wrote: > [3.2.3] > There is no abbreviated form for the weekday names in Persian. However, it > is common to use the first letter of weekdays in the month calendars as ^^ Common? How about, "acceptable" or something like that? -Connie

Re: Days of the Week abbreviated

2004-05-02 Thread Omid K. Rad
<> After Behdad's justifications and concluding the survey about this discussion, I changed the section [3.2.3] of the draft as follows: [3.2.3] There is no abbreviated form for the weekday names in Persian. However, it is common to use the first letter of weekdays in the month calendars as sho

Re: Days of the Week abbreviated

2004-05-02 Thread Roozbeh Pournader
On Sat, 2004-05-01 at 19:38, Behdad Esfahbod wrote: > the *correct* way is to order from right to left. I confirm. The screenshot I sent was just for making people see something. The preferred direction is right to left and then top to bottom. roozbeh ___

FW: Re: Days of the Week abbreviated

2004-05-01 Thread Omid K. Rad
<> After Behdad's justifications and concluding the survey about this discussion, I changed the section [3.2.3] of the draft as follows: [3.2.3] There is no abbreviated form for the weekday names in Persian. However, it is common to use the first letter of weekdays in the month calendars as sho

Re: Days of the Week abbreviated

2004-05-01 Thread Behdad Esfahbod
On Sat, 1 May 2004, Omid K. Rad wrote: > Hi, > Roozbeh gave a nice sample, but I've also seen month calendars showing > one-letter headings in a reverse direction (right-to-left). Compare with > this: http://www.geocities.com/omidkrad/Calendar/PersianDatePicker.gif > > Should we follow the numbers

Re: Days of the Week abbreviated

2004-05-01 Thread Omid K. Rad
Hi, Roozbeh gave a nice sample, but I've also seen month calendars showing one-letter headings in a reverse direction (right-to-left). Compare with this: http://www.geocities.com/omidkrad/Calendar/PersianDatePicker.gif Should we follow the numbers reading order or the letters reading order? Omid

Re: Days of the Week abbreviated

2004-04-29 Thread Behdad Esfahbod
The main problem with the fonts right now are: * The lack line height data. * The size does not match of the MS fonts. (so not to the Latin fonts). * A few of fonts have bitmaps added. Those bitmaps should be removed. * There's a known problem on LCDs, but that's another story perhaps.

Re: Days of the Week abbreviated

2004-04-29 Thread C Bobroff
On Thu, 29 Apr 2004, Roozbeh Pournader wrote: > Not much has happened with the fonts since last year (1382), and the > latest version is 0.4. BTW, we need volunteers for tracking bugs in the > fonts. Sorry to hear that. Can you release the latest if there have been any improvements? Maybe I coul

Re: Days of the Week abbreviated

2004-04-29 Thread Roozbeh Pournader
On Wed, 2004-04-28 at 09:06, C Bobroff wrote: > OK, but kindly don't involve Roozbeh in any flamefests until AFTER he's > done with the fonts. Not much has happened with the fonts since last year (1382), and the latest version is 0.4. BTW, we need volunteers for tracking bugs in the fonts. As fo

RE: Days of the Week abbreviated

2004-04-28 Thread Omid K. Rad
So, please don't count mine as a vote. I'm not in Iran now. Actually of a "month calendar" I mean something like this: http://www.geocities.com/omidkrad/Calendar/PersianDatePicker.gif Omid > > > > On Wed, 28 Apr 2004, Omid K. Rad wrote: > > > Oh! I am late to vote! > > No hurry, votes c

Re: Days of the Week abbreviated

2004-04-27 Thread Roozbeh Pournader
On Wed, 2004-04-28 at 08:10, Behdad Esfahbod wrote: > First one is the concept of an abbreviation: I'm strongly with > the idea that a single letter is not called an abbreviation. I > doubt if anyone disagree on this. > > Ok, let's see what we have in English: > > Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, ... >

Re: Days of the Week abbreviated

2004-04-27 Thread C Bobroff
On Tue, 27 Apr 2004, Behdad Esfahbod wrote: > Seems like I still should clarify some things for you :). You've indeed clarified the conflicting results of the vote. I shall update my info accordingly. > So, next time, don't let Roozbeh fool you with sayin those guys > use it in Sharif University

Re: Days of the Week abbreviated

2004-04-27 Thread Behdad Esfahbod
Hi Connie, Seems like I still should clarify some things for you :). First one is the concept of an abbreviation: I'm strongly with the idea that a single letter is not called an abbreviation. I doubt if anyone disagree on this. Ok, let's see what we have in English: Sunday, Monday, Tuesday,

Re: Days of the Week abbreviated

2004-04-27 Thread C Bobroff
On Wed, 28 Apr 2004, Omid K. Rad wrote: > Oh! I am late to vote! No hurry, votes can be added any time. All I ask is that voters actually be living in Iran. If anyone else still wants to submit their vote, please do so. > It is very common to use the first letter of weekdays in month calendars.

Re: Days of the Week abbreviated

2004-04-27 Thread Omid K. Rad
Oh! I am late to vote! In IranL10nInfo draft we have defined the first letter of the weekdays for their abbreviated names. You can see it in the first table of section [3.2]: http://www.idevcenter.com/projects/iranl10ninfo/draft/#3.2-DateTimeNamingAndPatterns And the description is: [3.2.3] It i

Re: Days of the Week abbreviated

2004-04-27 Thread Behdad Esfahbod
On Tue, 27 Apr 2004, C Bobroff wrote: > Results of the Survey: > > Never: 3 votes > Rarely: 2 votes > Sometimes: 2 votes > > (Plus one more "never" vote from the person who vehemently objected to my > putting the abbreviations on my website and caused me to take this > poll!) > > I think we should

Re: Days of the Week abbreviated

2004-04-27 Thread C Bobroff
On Tue, 27 Apr 2004, Behdad Esfahbod wrote: > > I think we should conclude that abbreviations should be avoided. > Good you finally got it... ;) Thank you for your vigilance ...and patience, Behdad. -Connie ___ PersianComputing mailing list [EMAIL PR

Re: Days of the Week abbreviated

2004-04-27 Thread C Bobroff
Results of the Survey: Never: 3 votes Rarely: 2 votes Sometimes: 2 votes (Plus one more "never" vote from the person who vehemently objected to my putting the abbreviations on my website and caused me to take this poll!) I think we should conclude that abbreviations should be avoided. Yet anothe

Re: Days of the Week abbreviated

2004-04-27 Thread alahijani
Why? I think when you have Fe-Re, Aliph-Re, and Mim-Re, representing Khordad as Khe-Re will make no misunderstanding. > On Tue, 2004-04-27 at 16:44, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> Also you can see that all >> Jalali month names may be distinguished by the first two letters. > > That may be a little we

Re: Days of the Week abbreviated

2004-04-27 Thread Roozbeh Pournader
On Tue, 2004-04-27 at 16:44, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Also you can see that all > Jalali month names may be distinguished by the first two letters. That may be a little weird for cases like Khordad... roozbeh ___ PersianComputing mailing list [EMAIL

Re: Days of the Week abbreviated

2004-04-27 Thread alahijani
I think that's not so rare. I have seen some. Also you can see that all Jalali month names may be distinguished by the first two letters. --Saint Ali > Hello, > > I have a question for those of you actually living in Iran. > > Are the days of the week ever written in a short form with just one >