[HACKERS] tabcompletition and schema

2002-10-30 Thread Tommi Maekitalo
Hi, I just installed 7.3b3 on my server (SuSE linux 8.1 on x86 with gcc 3.2) and discovered a problem with tabcompletition in pgsql. It doesn't work with schema. I created a schema 's' and a table 'tab' in this schema. When typing 'select * from s.' followed by tab nothing happens. A second

[HACKERS] PG, Crystal Reports, Stored Procedures and User Defined Functions

2002-10-30 Thread Philip Rhoades
People, I posted this to the general list with no response so this is the next step . . I have a client that I have just changed over to PG 7.2.3 and despite the early teething problems things are going pretty well. There are, however, a few more difficult problems to do with reporting via

[HACKERS] calculated fields are not seen in the WHERE clause

2002-10-30 Thread Yaroslav Dmitriev
Hello, OK select 1 as ccc where 1=1 ERROR select 1 as ccc where ccc=1 PostgreSQL said: ERROR: Attribute 'ccc' not found Is there any way to set conditions on calculated fields values? Best regards, Yar ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 3: if

[HACKERS] Is regress/report.php in use?

2002-10-30 Thread Vladimir Chukharev
Hi, I am not subscribed (and I would prefer to continue read the list through web interface only). Does the developers team follow the http://developer.postgresql.org/regress/report.php ? May be it's worthless to report there? Best regards, Vladimir Chukharev ---(end of

[HACKERS] Strange cost computation?

2002-10-30 Thread Ives Landrieu
Hi, Can anybody explain the following results when using EXPLAIN, one time with enable_seqscan=on and one time with enable_seqscan=off. What I don't understand is that the nodes created are the same (index scan, seq scan), but the costs differ. set enable_seqscan=on; explain (SELECT

Re: [HACKERS] 7.3b3 on MacOSX 10.2.1

2002-10-30 Thread Adam Witney
On 29/10/02 6:02 pm, Tom Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Adam Witney [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Just to update the list of supported platforms, 7.3b3 compiles and passes all the regression tests on MacOSX 10.2.1 Although don't know if this is relevant but this appears when running the tests:

Re: [HACKERS] Strange cost computation?

2002-10-30 Thread Stephan Szabo
On 29 Oct 2002, Ives Landrieu wrote: Hi, Can anybody explain the following results when using EXPLAIN, one time with enable_seqscan=on and one time with enable_seqscan=off. What I don't understand is that the nodes created are the same (index scan, seq scan), but the costs differ. Enable

Re: [HACKERS] Strange cost computation?

2002-10-30 Thread Stephan Szabo
On Wed, 30 Oct 2002, Stephan Szabo wrote: On 29 Oct 2002, Ives Landrieu wrote: Hi, Can anybody explain the following results when using EXPLAIN, one time with enable_seqscan=on and one time with enable_seqscan=off. What I don't understand is that the nodes created are the same

Re: [HACKERS] OO future

2002-10-30 Thread Paul Ramsey
There's a nice simple book from 1999 by Stonebreaker and a technologist form Informix about object-relational features. PostgreSQL has definately started to lag on that front, while shoring up other aspects of the RDBMS. A simple (simple?) start might just be supporting dot notation and other

Re: [HACKERS] 7.3b3 on MacOSX 10.2.1

2002-10-30 Thread Tom Lane
Adam Witney [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It appears that my ignorance got the better of me It was the first time I had run the regression tests on any PostgreSQL installation. But I think I am getting the same problems as others. below is the last part of the regression tests (I had taken the

Re: [HACKERS] 7.3b3 passes on MacOSX 10.2.1

2002-10-30 Thread Tom Lane
Peter Bierman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ok. After upgrading to bison-1.75, all regression tests pass except: *** ./expected/geometry-powerpc-darwin.out Mon Dec 11 08:45:16 2000 Perhaps the change from gcc2.x to 3.x changed floats a bit? Could be. We had previous reports of the same diff

Re: [HACKERS] 7.3b3 ok on unixware 71[12] here

2002-10-30 Thread Larry Rosenman
On Wed, 2002-10-30 at 12:16, Olivier PRENANT wrote: On 30 Oct 2002, Larry Rosenman wrote: Date: 30 Oct 2002 12:14:01 -0600 From: Larry Rosenman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [HACKERS] 7.3b3 ok on unixware 71[12] here I've got it

Re: [HACKERS] move 0 behaviour

2002-10-30 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Bruce Momjian writes: So, that is why MOVE 0 goes to the end of the cursor. One idea would be for MOVE 0 to actually move nothing, but jdbc and others need the ability to move the end of the cursor, perhaps to then back up a certain amount and read from there. Seems MOVE 0 is the logical

Re: [CYGWIN] [HACKERS] Request for supported platforms

2002-10-30 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Dave Page writes: Hackers: As the Cygwin release that is actively supported is the binary distribution that Jason builds, I would think this is OK to be listed as supported if no-one disagrees... I disagree. We document as supported those platforms that build out of the box, not those that

Re: [HACKERS] float output precision questions

2002-10-30 Thread Stephan Szabo
On Wed, 30 Oct 2002, Pedro Miguel Frazao Fernandes Ferreira wrote: In C this is possible: #include stdio.h #include stdlib.h int main(void) { double v; char a[30]; v=1.79769313486231571e+308; printf( Stored double number: %25.18g\n,v); sprintf(a,%25.18g,v);

Re: [HACKERS] float output precision questions

2002-10-30 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Wed, Oct 30, 2002 at 19:27:57 +0100, Peter Eisentraut [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The printf(%A) output is not system-specific. Just out of curiosity, can you tell me a web page or keywords to use in a search to see what that format does? I tried using google, but searching for printf with

Re: [HACKERS] 7.3b3 ok on unixware 71[12] here

2002-10-30 Thread Olivier PRENANT
Well, I think I just found it!! I adeed -Kpic in Dynaloader's Makefile. I haven't test plperl itself, but at least it compiles. Regards, On 30 Oct 2002, Larry Rosenman wrote: Date: 30 Oct 2002 12:23:06 -0600 From: Larry Rosenman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [HACKERS] 7.3b3 on MacOSX 10.2.1

2002-10-30 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Tom Lane writes: No, there should be ~80 tests in all. I'm not sure why the pg_regress script is failing to process the remaining tests when this happens; any ideas out there? It appears that the shell simply aborts on fork failure. Example: peter ~$ cat test.sh ulimit -u 30 for i in

[HACKERS] PG functions in Java: maybe use gcj?

2002-10-30 Thread Tom Lane
I had an interesting conversation today with Tom Tromey and Andrew Haley of Red Hat about how to implement pljava for Postgres. Rather than futzing with an external JVM, their thought is to use gcj (gcc compiling Java). It sounds like this approach would mostly just work, modulo needing to use a

[HACKERS] Concerns about statement-timeout patch

2002-10-30 Thread Tom Lane
I've been trying to do some code review of the recent statement-timeout feature addition, and I've got some fairly serious concerns about it. One problem that needs discussion is that the enable_sig_alarm and disable_sig_alarm calls were dropped into postgres.c at rather randomly chosen places.

[HACKERS] 7.2.3 vacuum bug

2002-10-30 Thread Rod Taylor
ERROR: RelationClearRelation: relation 11584078 deleted while still in use I've been unable to come up with a test case that will cause the problem, seems to be timing related. The queries that are currently running when these errors occur do a lot or work with temp tables that are frequently

Re: [HACKERS] [GENERAL] What user to defaults execute as?

2002-10-30 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Wed, Oct 30, 2002 at 14:03:21 -0600, While I am not sure about triggers, it certainly is possible to get a similar effect be having the referenced function run with the security of the definer. I read some more on triggers and found that according to the documentation, they appear to run

Re: [HACKERS] 7.2.3 vacuum bug

2002-10-30 Thread Neil Conway
Rod Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ERROR: RelationClearRelation: relation 11584078 deleted while still in use I was going to report a similar error that arises in a different situation: client 1: CREATE TABLE a (b int); BEGIN; DROP TABLE a; -- wait client 2: SELECT * FROM a; client 1:

Re: [HACKERS] 7.2.3 vacuum bug

2002-10-30 Thread Rod Taylor
On Wed, 2002-10-30 at 15:38, Neil Conway wrote: Rod Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ERROR: RelationClearRelation: relation 11584078 deleted while still in use I was going to report a similar error that arises in a different situation: Probably a different look at the same problem. --

[HACKERS] Swedish version of the PostgreSQL Advocacy and Marketing site is ready

2002-10-30 Thread Justin Clift
Hi everyone, Thanks to Henrik Edlund [EMAIL PROTECTED], the Swedish translation of the PostgreSQL Advocacy and Marketing site is now completed and ready for public use: http://advocacy.postgresql.org/?lang=sv :-) Spanish should available pretty soon too (next few days at least). Regards and

Re: [HACKERS] float output precision questions

2002-10-30 Thread Pedro M. Ferreira
Stephan Szabo wrote: On Wed, 30 Oct 2002, Pedro Miguel Frazao Fernandes Ferreira wrote: I understand that if people insert a value of 1.1 in a double, they want to get 1.1 without knowing that in fact the stored number is 1.10009. But do you understand that if some people insert,

Re: [HACKERS] pgAdmin III (Was: Request for supported platforms)

2002-10-30 Thread Greg Copeland
Since you're using wxWindows, I *HIGHLY* recommend obtaining a license to wxDesigner from http://www.roebling.de/. It allows for very rapid GUI design. It also understands various sizers and makes it SOOO much easier to make use of them. Once you understand sizers, you'll love them but they

Re: [HACKERS] PG functions in Java: maybe use gcj?

2002-10-30 Thread Barry Lind
I am not sure I follow. Are you suggesting: 1) create function takes java source and then calls gcj to compile it to native and build a .so from it that would get called at runtime? or 2) create function takes java source and just compiles to java .class files and the runtime invokes the

Re: [HACKERS] PG functions in Java: maybe use gcj?

2002-10-30 Thread Tom Lane
Barry Lind [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am not sure I follow. Are you suggesting: 1) create function takes java source and then calls gcj to compile it to native and build a .so from it that would get called at runtime? or 2) create function takes java source and just compiles to java

Re: [HACKERS] 7.2.3 vacuum bug

2002-10-30 Thread Tom Lane
Neil Conway [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: client 1: CREATE TABLE a (b int); BEGIN; DROP TABLE a; -- wait client 2: SELECT * FROM a; client 1: COMMIT; Now, client 2 will receive RelationClearRelation: relation 25172 deleted while still in use, rather than Relation a does not exist, as

Re: [HACKERS] 7.2.3 vacuum bug

2002-10-30 Thread Neil Conway
Tom Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But relation a *does* exist at the start of client 2's operation. While I'm not here to defend the exact phrasing of this error message, it does seem to me that it's appropriate to give a different error message than what appears when the table wasn't found

Re: [HACKERS] 7.2.3 vacuum bug

2002-10-30 Thread Tom Lane
Rod Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ERROR: RelationClearRelation: relation 11584078 deleted while still in use I've been unable to come up with a test case that will cause the problem, seems to be timing related. The queries that are currently running when these errors occur do a lot or

Re: [HACKERS] 7.2.3 vacuum bug

2002-10-30 Thread Tom Lane
Neil Conway [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ok, fair enough -- I agree that we should treat the two cases differently. But one thing I think we should do in any case is improve the wording of the error message. Got a suggestion? regards, tom lane

[HACKERS] OO future

2002-10-30 Thread Karel Zak
Hi, I read a presentation about Object-Oriented features in relation DBs. The nice are UDT (user defined type): CREATE TABLE person ( name varchar(32), address ROW( street varchar(32), town varchar(32)), age int ); INSERT INTO person VALUES ('Bill',

Re: [HACKERS] pgAdmin III (Was: Request for supported platforms)

2002-10-30 Thread Dave Page
-Original Message- From: Greg Copeland [mailto:greg;copelandconsulting.net] Sent: 30 October 2002 01:08 To: Dave Page Subject: Re: [HACKERS] Request for supported platforms C++? Really? What GUI toolkit is being used? Just curious. wxWindows. The CVS is online if anyone

Re: [HACKERS] OO future

2002-10-30 Thread Hannu Krosing
Karel Zak kirjutas K, 30.10.2002 kell 10:08: Hi, I read a presentation about Object-Oriented features in relation DBs. The nice are UDT (user defined type): CREATE TABLE person ( name varchar(32), address ROW( street varchar(32), town varchar(32)),

Re: [HACKERS] OO future

2002-10-30 Thread Karel Zak
On Wed, Oct 30, 2002 at 08:35:09AM +0200, Hannu Krosing wrote: Comments? I nothinig found about OO in the current TODO. I'm writing a small proposal for evoving inheritance and other OO features in 7.4 and beyond. Will post once 7.3 is out. Good! I look forward. BTW, my examples are

Re: [HACKERS] float output precision questions

2002-10-30 Thread Pedro Miguel Frazao Fernandes Ferreira
Peter Eisentraut wrote: Matlab has a toolbox fucntion, claiming maximum precision, to convert from its double type (PostgreSQL float8) to string which does a sprintf('%25.18g',number). Do we have some mathematical guarantee that this is sufficient and necessary? If so, then it might do.

Re: [HACKERS] float output precision questions

2002-10-30 Thread Pedro Miguel Frazao Fernandes Ferreira
Stephan Szabo wrote: On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, Peter Eisentraut wrote: Pedro Miguel Frazao Fernandes Ferreira writes: Is there a way to set query output precision to maximum precision ? For the type of application I mentioned this is crucial. People want to get the 'same' numbers, from querys or

Re: [HACKERS] float output precision questions

2002-10-30 Thread Pedro Miguel Frazao Fernandes Ferreira
Bruno Wolff III wrote: On Tue, Oct 29, 2002 at 23:19:05 +0100, Peter Eisentraut [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There isn't a way right now, but it's planned to be able to dump floating-point numbers in some binary form (like printf(%A)) to be able to restore them exactly. Not sure how that would

Re: [Fwd: Re: [HACKERS] UnixWare 7.1.3 (BETA), C99 compiler,

2002-10-30 Thread Dave Prosser
Tom Lane wrote: static inline int32 StaticApplySortFunction(FmgrInfo *sortFunction, SortFunctionKind kind, Datum datum1, bool isNull1, Datum datum2, bool isNull2) { //etc. } int32 ApplySortFunction(FmgrInfo *sortFunction, SortFunctionKind kind, Datum datum1, bool isNull1,

Re: [HACKERS] Request for supported platforms

2002-10-30 Thread Tara Piorkowski
Bruce, Not sure. I know Tom Lane ran a check on 10.1.x and didn't have any errors, so I figured the differences I saw reflected changes made by Apple between 10.1.x and 10.2.x. Then, I was surprised when I saw Adam's report, so I thought perhaps he was running on a PPC G3 and there were

Re: [HACKERS] Request for supported platforms

2002-10-30 Thread Adam Witney
On 29/10/02 1:50 pm, Tom Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bruce Momjian [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Strange. I just got report from another OSX 10.2.1 user saying regression tests passed: 10.2.1, Adam Witney ([EMAIL PROTECTED] The proper value seems to be: 15.3864610140472 or

[HACKERS] Database replication... - Mission Critical DBMS's -- Taking postgreSQL to the Enterprise Computing level...

2002-10-30 Thread Greg Patnude
I have a client that I am developing a web-based business application for using Perl / PHP, DHTML, and postgreSQL on a FreeBSD server with Apache... The client realized (or hopes) that this application may become mission critical (to his clients / end-users) and was asking about the possibility

Re: [HACKERS] calculated fields are not seen in the WHERE clause

2002-10-30 Thread Hannu Krosing
Yaroslav Dmitriev kirjutas K, 30.10.2002 kell 13:48: Hello, OK select 1 as ccc where 1=1 ERROR select 1 as ccc where ccc=1 PostgreSQL said: ERROR: Attribute 'ccc' not found Is there any way to set conditions on calculated fields values? You could try using a subquery select * from

Re: [HACKERS] [GENERAL] Database replication... - Mission Critical DBMS's --

2002-10-30 Thread Robert Treat
You might want to check out http://gborg.postgresql.org/genpage?replication_research which has information and links to several replication solutions for postgresql. the techdocs.postgresql.org website also has a good number of papers regarding replication, as well as a high availability how-to

Re: [HACKERS] Database replication... - Mission Critical DBMS's -- Taking postgreSQL to the Enterprise Computing level...

2002-10-30 Thread Andrew Sullivan
On Tue, Oct 29, 2002 at 03:56:46PM -0800, Greg Patnude wrote: I have read through all 7 chapters of the PG documentation and didn't see anything about replicating a postgreSQL database on a secondary database server and having the primary server push all data manipulations on through to the

Re: [HACKERS] [GENERAL] Database replication... - Mission Critical DBMS's --

2002-10-30 Thread Andrew Sullivan
On Wed, Oct 30, 2002 at 10:18:47AM -0500, Robert Treat wrote: regarding replication, as well as a high availability how-to that would probably be worth reading. The high availability howto suggests using rsync to synchronise the data areas of two data servers. That is an _extremely bad_ idea.

Re: [HACKERS] float output precision questions

2002-10-30 Thread Stephan Szabo
On Wed, 30 Oct 2002, Pedro Miguel Frazao Fernandes Ferreira wrote: Stephan Szabo wrote: On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, Peter Eisentraut wrote: Pedro Miguel Frazao Fernandes Ferreira writes: Is there a way to set query output precision to maximum precision ? For the type of application I

Re: [HACKERS] float output precision questions

2002-10-30 Thread Pedro Miguel Frazao Fernandes Ferreira
Stephan Szabo wrote: On Wed, 30 Oct 2002, Pedro Miguel Frazao Fernandes Ferreira wrote: Stephan Szabo wrote: On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, Peter Eisentraut wrote: Pedro Miguel Frazao Fernandes Ferreira writes: Is there a way to set query output precision to maximum precision ? For the type of

Re: [HACKERS] Trigger on 'create table' ?

2002-10-30 Thread Tom Lane
Paul Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Now, if we changed the geometry type so that when one defined a geometry column, one had to include info about what SRID and what dimension it was, (ala varchar(243)) maybe the whole schmeer could reside in pg_class and geometry_columns would be a

[HACKERS] 7.3b3 ok on unixware 71[12] here

2002-10-30 Thread Olivier PRENANT
I'm glad to tell that I compiled and run regression tests ok on unixware 711 and 712 (Openunix 800) as well as on mac OS X 10.2.1 (execpt for float8) However, I'm still struggling to make plperl work on perl 561 and Unixware. I've scanned te Web and every thing without comming to a clue of what

Re: [HACKERS] 7.3b3 ok on unixware 71[12] here

2002-10-30 Thread Larry Rosenman
On Wed, 2002-10-30 at 12:08, Olivier PRENANT wrote: I'm glad to tell that I compiled and run regression tests ok on unixware 711 and 712 (Openunix 800) as well as on mac OS X 10.2.1 (execpt for float8) However, I'm still struggling to make plperl work on perl 561 and Unixware. I've

Re: [HACKERS] 7.3b3 ok on unixware 71[12] here

2002-10-30 Thread Olivier PRENANT
On 30 Oct 2002, Larry Rosenman wrote: Date: 30 Oct 2002 12:14:01 -0600 From: Larry Rosenman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [HACKERS] 7.3b3 ok on unixware 71[12] here On Wed, 2002-10-30 at 12:08, Olivier PRENANT wrote: I'm glad to tell that I

Re: [HACKERS] move 0 behaviour

2002-10-30 Thread Tom Lane
Bruce Momjian [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I did some research on this. It turns out the parser uses 0 for ALL, so when you do a FETCH ALL it is passing zero. Now, when you do MOVE 0, you are really asking for FETCH ALL and all the tuples are thrown away because of the MOVE. Yeah. I think

Re: [HACKERS] float output precision questions

2002-10-30 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Bruno Wolff III writes: On Tue, Oct 29, 2002 at 23:19:05 +0100, Peter Eisentraut [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There isn't a way right now, but it's planned to be able to dump floating-point numbers in some binary form (like printf(%A)) to be able to restore them exactly. Not sure how

Re: [HACKERS] [GENERAL] What user to defaults execute as?

2002-10-30 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Wed, Oct 30, 2002 at 08:27:37 -0600, Bruno Wolff III [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do default expressions execute with access of the user doing the insert or the owner of the table? What I was thinking was that the owner of a table may want to allow people to do inserts into a table and update

Re: [HACKERS] float output precision questions

2002-10-30 Thread Stephan Szabo
On Wed, 30 Oct 2002, Pedro M. Ferreira wrote: Stephan Szabo wrote: On Wed, 30 Oct 2002, Pedro Miguel Frazao Fernandes Ferreira wrote: I understand that if people insert a value of 1.1 in a double, they want to get 1.1 without knowing that in fact the stored number is 1.10009.

[HACKERS] 7.3b3 Regression tests passed on i386 Debian

2002-10-30 Thread Oliver Elphick
Debian GNU/Linux unstable version, build from source on i386 SMP (dual Athlon MP): all regression tests passed. Change to source required: add CFLAGS += -D_GNU_SOURCE in src/pl/plperl/GNUMakefile. ./configure --enable-recode --with-pgport=5678 --with-tcl --with-perl --with-python

Re: [HACKERS] Request for supported platforms

2002-10-30 Thread Bruce Momjian
I have reviewed your diff and found that it was either timezone changes or join.sql which I have recently fixed. Can you grab current CVS snapshot and try again? --- Ian Barwick wrote: On Tuesday 29 October 2002 01:56,

Re: [HACKERS] Turning the PLANNER off

2002-10-30 Thread Ross J. Reedstrom
Ah, so Ben finally got around to posting here. Ben's a CS Grad student here at Rice. His (current) project involves taking some interesting results from constraint satisfaction and implementing them on a database: one of the CS faculty has demonstrated that one class of highly joined DB queries

Re: [HACKERS] float output precision questions

2002-10-30 Thread Tom Lane
Stephan Szabo [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wed, 30 Oct 2002, Pedro M. Ferreira wrote: I looked at some of these emails and it seemed to me that the problem was that Tom did'nt want a parameter that would force people to know about printf number formatting. I think the first solution above (the

Re: [HACKERS] Turning the PLANNER off

2002-10-30 Thread Tom Lane
Ross J. Reedstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So, in the interim, Ben's trying to do it by hand: preorder the joins and demonstrate that the 'best' order is in fact the best. Then move on to looking into integrating this, if possible: part of the problem is recognizing the structure of the

Re: [HACKERS] move 0 behaviour

2002-10-30 Thread Bruce Momjian
Peter Eisentraut wrote: Bruce Momjian writes: So, that is why MOVE 0 goes to the end of the cursor. One idea would be for MOVE 0 to actually move nothing, but jdbc and others need the ability to move the end of the cursor, perhaps to then back up a certain amount and read from there.

Re: [HACKERS] move 0 behaviour

2002-10-30 Thread Tom Lane
Bruce Momjian [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The following patch makes FETCH/MOVE 0 do nothing, and FETCH LAST move to the end. Do not hack up PerformPortalFetch; put the special case for INT_MAX in utility.c's FetchStmt code, instead. As-is, you probably broke other callers of PerformPortalFetch.

[HACKERS] PostgreSQL Installation on SCO

2002-10-30 Thread Shibashish
Dear Sir, I use SCO Open Server 5.0.5 on an intel box. Although I have installed and used PostgreSQL on Linux, setting it on SCO has not been smooth :) I have downloaded the latest version ie Postgresql-7.2.3. I also installed ant package for using java. I have tcl8.0, tk8.0, itclsh3.0 and