[HACKERS] psql: Prompt change

2003-02-03 Thread Þórhallur Hálfdánarson
Hi mydatabase=# What about making this configurable, so that one could for examble change is prompt to: me:mydatabase@myhost=# Would a patch be accepted if I ever would get around to it? (I won't have time for the next few weeks, so if anyone else wants to do the implementation: feel free :)

Re: [HACKERS] On file locking

2003-02-03 Thread Antti Haapala
That same documentation mentions that locks acquired using flock() will *not* invoke the mandatory lock semantics even if on a file marked for it, so I guess flock() isn't implemented on top of fcntl() in Linux. They're not. And there's another difference between fcntl and flock in Linux:

Re: [mail] Re: [HACKERS] Windows Build System

2003-02-03 Thread Igor Georgiev
- Original Message - From: Justin Clift [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Curt Sampson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Peter Eisentraut [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Curtis Faith [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 4:42 AM Subject: Re: [mail] Re: [HACKERS] Windows Build System + It

Re: [HACKERS] PGP signing releases

2003-02-03 Thread greg
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I think we should PGP sign all the official packages that are provided for download from the various mirror sites. Doesn't anyone around here read pgsql-general? :) I've been arguing for this over there since June of last year. I've also been

[HACKERS] new procedural language - PL/R

2003-02-03 Thread Joe Conway
I'm nearing completion of a new procedural language, PL/R. It provides an interface to the R Statistical Computing language. R is similar to the commercial package S-Plus; for more on R see: http://www.r-project.org/ Here is the first paragraph of their intro: R is a language and environment

[HACKERS] v7.3.2 Tag'd and Bundle'd ...

2003-02-03 Thread Marc G. Fournier
Will announce tomorrow morning if there are no issues with it ... %ls -lt ~ftp/pub/source/v7.3.2 total 21677 -rw-r--r-- 1 pgsql pgsql70 Feb 3 11:36 postgresql-test-7.3.2.tar.gz.md5 -rw-r--r-- 1 pgsql pgsql65 Feb 3 11:36 postgresql-7.3.2.tar.gz.md5 -rw-r--r-- 1 pgsql pgsql

[HACKERS] Win32 Technical Questions

2003-02-03 Thread Merlin Moncure
Can the ConsoleApp thing be written in C so we don't have to get an extra C++ compiler for one file (for those who don't want to use the Microsoft toolchain)? Critical sections and semaphores and mutexes are all available from the win32 API. I agree with Peter: I am not sure it is a good idea to

Re: [HACKERS] PGP signing releases

2003-02-03 Thread Neil Conway
On Sun, 2003-02-02 at 21:23, Marc G. Fournier wrote: well, if you want to tell me the steps, I'll consider it ... I certainly wouldn't consider myself to be an expert in PGP, but my understanding of the basic steps is: (1) Generate a public/private key pair for the PGDG team. This should be

Re: [HACKERS] PGP signing releases

2003-02-03 Thread Rod Taylor
(3) Sign official releases using the PGDG private key, and provide the signatures on www.postgresql.org along with the packages themselves. Sounds about right. I'd go as far as to sign release announcements and security emails as well. -- Rod Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP Key:

Re: [HACKERS] POSIX regex performance bug in 7.3 Vs. 7.2

2003-02-03 Thread wade
At 08:31 PM 2/1/03 +0800, Christopher Kings-Lynne wrote: Why on earth are you using a CVS version!?!?!?! Chris This problem manifests itself under 7.3.1 release as well. CVS is used so we can access patches to the SRF stuff implemented after 7.3.1 was released. Tom... any links that document

Re: [HACKERS] Win32 Technical Questions

2003-02-03 Thread Katie Ward
The only MFC dependency is CWinApp, which I agree can be replaced. The rest of it is written in c++ -- no MFC dependencies. C++ is still important because of the critical-scection locking/unlocking through automatic stack variables. Katie -Original Message- From: Merlin Moncure

Re: [HACKERS] PGP signing releases

2003-02-03 Thread Greg Copeland
On Sun, 2003-02-02 at 20:23, Marc G. Fournier wrote: right, that is why we started to provide md5 checksums ... md5 checksums only validate that the intended package (trojaned or legit) has been properly received. They offer nothing from a security perspective unless the checksums have been

Re: [HACKERS] Win32 Powerfail testing - results

2003-02-03 Thread Dave Page
Vince Vielhaber allegedly said: On Mon, 3 Feb 2003, Dave Page wrote: Run | Errors Detected = 07 | COUNT CHECK - Duplicate or missing rows detected (10262)!! 09 | DISTINCT CHECK - Duplicate or missing rows detected (9893)!! |

Re: [HACKERS] new procedural language - PL/R

2003-02-03 Thread Joe Conway
Tom Lane wrote: Joe Conway [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 2) Knowing the trend to move stuff *out* of the PostgreSQL source tarball, and assuming plr is released under GPL, is there any chance that it would be accepted into src/pl or contrib, or should I start a gborg project (I'd prefer if it

Re: [HACKERS] v7.3.2 Tag'd and Bundle'd ...

2003-02-03 Thread Lamar Owen
On Monday 03 February 2003 11:38, Marc G. Fournier wrote: Will announce tomorrow morning if there are no issues with it ... Where did the following three man pages go? man1/clusterdb.1 man1/pg_controldata.1 man1/pg_resetxlog.1 In 7.3.1 they were at: ./postgresql-7.3.1/doc/man1/clusterdb.1

Re: [HACKERS] PGP signing releases

2003-02-03 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Mon, Feb 03, 2003 at 12:24:14PM -0600, Greg Copeland wrote: On Sun, 2003-02-02 at 20:23, Marc G. Fournier wrote: right, that is why we started to provide md5 checksums ... md5 checksums only validate that the intended package (trojaned or legit) has been properly received. They offer

Re: [HACKERS] v7.3.2 Tag'd and Bundle'd ...

2003-02-03 Thread Marc G. Fournier
oh joy, here we go again ... you are right, my mistake :( I copied out of peter's directory ... fixing now ... On Mon, 3 Feb 2003, Lamar Owen wrote: On Monday 03 February 2003 11:38, Marc G. Fournier wrote: Will announce tomorrow morning if there are no issues with it ... Where did the

[HACKERS] Win32 and fsync()

2003-02-03 Thread Dann Corbit
For Win32, in order to emulate fsync() we will need to call FlushFileBuffers(): http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/fileio/ base/flushfilebuffers.asp ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 1: subscribe and unsubscribe commands go

Re: [HACKERS] new procedural language - PL/R

2003-02-03 Thread cbbrowne
Any strong feelings on whether this is necessary for a first release? No. I'm not sure you'd really need triggers written in R ever ;-) Yeah, that's what I figured too. Indeed. R sounds like it might be an interesting platform from which to do data mining, and in that sort of context,

Re: [HACKERS] new procedural language - PL/R

2003-02-03 Thread Joe Conway
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What might be nifty would be to have some mappings that did Clever Transformations of Queries Into Views, particularly if that allowed harnessing the DBMS to do some of the statistical analysis behind your back... I'm not quite sure what you mean here, but it does

Re: [HACKERS] win32 port --asynchronous I/O and memory

2003-02-03 Thread Jan Wieck
Merlin Moncure wrote: Just a quick question... are you guys using the C runtime or the win32 API to do things like file i/o and memory allocation. If you are using the win32 api, are you using asynchronous I/O? Generally, how much raw win32 code do you expect to write (assumption: as

Re: [HACKERS] POSIX regex performance bug in 7.3 Vs. 7.2

2003-02-03 Thread wade
At 10:52 PM 1/31/03 -0500, Tom Lane wrote: wade [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: We recently upgraded a project from 7.2 to 7.3.1 to make use of some of the cool new features in 7.3. The installed version is CVS stable from yesterday. However, we noticed a major performance hit in POSIX regular

Re: [HACKERS] Win32 and fsync()

2003-02-03 Thread Merlin Moncure
For Win32, in order to emulate fsync() we will need to call FlushFileBuffers(): The supplied link does not work. FlushFileBuffers() is for flushing files opened with CreateFile() etc. For files opened with fopen(), call fflush(). For files opened with _open(), call _commit(). Likekly the

Re: [HACKERS] Win32 and fsync()

2003-02-03 Thread Andrew Dunstan
I'm having difficulty digging up the reference, but I think I recall seeing something that said, roughly, on W32 there are 2 sets of buffers - those in the user level library and those in the kernel level driver, and FlushFileBuffers drains the first, while _commit drains both (it includes a call

Re: [HACKERS] POSIX regex performance bug in 7.3 Vs. 7.2

2003-02-03 Thread Tom Lane
wade [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Here is the profile information. I included a log of the session that generated it at the top of the gprof output. If there is any other info I can help you with, please let me know. A four-second test isn't long enough to gather any statistically meaningful

Re: [HACKERS] Win32 and fsync()

2003-02-03 Thread Merlin Moncure
I'm having difficulty digging up the reference, but I think I recall seeing something that said, roughly, on W32 there are 2 sets of buffers - those in the user level library and those in the kernel level driver, and FlushFileBuffers drains the first, while _commit drains both (it includes a call

Re: [HACKERS] Win32 and fsync()

2003-02-03 Thread Gavin Sherry
On Mon, 3 Feb 2003, Andrew Dunstan wrote: I'm also fairly sure I saw something like #define fsync _commit in the Berkeley DB sources the other day, which might be a clue. I'll be happy to be corrected, though. You'd be right: /* * Win32 has fsync, getcwd, snprintf and vsnprintf, but

Re: [HACKERS] Win32 and fsync()

2003-02-03 Thread Dann Corbit
-Original Message- From: Merlin Moncure [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 3:00 PM To: Andrew Dunstan Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [HACKERS] Win32 and fsync() I'm having difficulty digging up the reference, but I think I recall seeing something

Re: [HACKERS] Win32 and fsync()

2003-02-03 Thread Gavin Sherry
On Mon, 3 Feb 2003, Dann Corbit wrote: -Original Message- From: Merlin Moncure [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 3:00 PM To: Andrew Dunstan Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [HACKERS] Win32 and fsync() I'm having difficulty digging up the

Re: [HACKERS] Win32 and fsync()

2003-02-03 Thread Andrew Dunstan
I'm not sure what the provenance of this code for _commit is - I thought it was in the standard MS libs - have they finally seen the light and open sourced it? ;-) andrew - Original Message - From: Dann Corbit [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Merlin Moncure [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Andrew Dunstan [EMAIL

Re: [HACKERS] Win32 and fsync()

2003-02-03 Thread Dann Corbit
-Original Message- From: Andrew Dunstan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 3:31 PM To: Dann Corbit; Merlin Moncure Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [HACKERS] Win32 and fsync() I'm not sure what the provenance of this code for _commit is - I thought

Re: [HACKERS] POSIX regex performance bug in 7.3 Vs. 7.2

2003-02-03 Thread wade
At 05:51 PM 2/3/03 -0500, Tom Lane wrote: wade [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Here is the profile information. I included a log of the session that generated it at the top of the gprof output. If there is any other info I can help you with, please let me know. A four-second test isn't long

Re: [HACKERS] POSIX regex performance bug in 7.3 Vs. 7.2

2003-02-03 Thread Tom Lane
Sigh. It seems that somebody broke caching of compiled regexes, so that your regex is recompiled each time it's used. I haven't dug into the logic yet, but I think it must have been a mistake in Thomas' change to make the regex cache be searched circularly: 2002-06-14 22:49 thomas *

Re: [HACKERS] POSIX regex performance bug in 7.3 Vs. 7.2

2003-02-03 Thread wade
Well, IMHO I would rather see a delay of the roll-out by a day or two than see a release with such a serious performance glitch. Especially since I personally have been shooting my big mouth off to all my geek friends on the leaps and bounds PG has made in the last few releases. With my luck

[HACKERS] regression failure on freebsd/alpha

2003-02-03 Thread Christopher Kings-Lynne
Latest CVS, timetz and horology is failing... parallel group (13 tests): text name varchar float4 char int2 boolean oid int8 float8 bit int4 numeric boolean ... ok char ... ok name ... ok varchar ... ok text

Re: [HACKERS] Win32 Powerfail testing - results

2003-02-03 Thread Dave Page
-Original Message- From: Tom Lane [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 03 February 2003 21:52 To: Dave Page Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [HACKERS] Win32 Powerfail testing - results Dave Page [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Rod Taylor allegedly said: Any

Re: [HACKERS] POSIX regex performance bug in 7.3 Vs. 7.2

2003-02-03 Thread Tom Lane
Wade, how many distinct patterns do you have in that table? What's the population distribution (in particular, do the top 32 patterns account for most of the table)? It's looking like the issue is not so much that the 7.3 code is completely broken, as that its LRU replacement policy for

Re: [HACKERS] POSIX regex performance bug in 7.3 Vs. 7.2

2003-02-03 Thread Tom Lane
Next question: may I guess that you weren't using MULTIBYTE in 7.2? After still more digging, I'm coming round to the opinion that the problem is that MULTIBYTE is forced on in 7.3, and this imposes a factor-of-256 overhead in a bunch of the operations in regcomp.c. In particular, compiling a

Re: [HACKERS] regression failure on freebsd/alpha

2003-02-03 Thread Christopher Kings-Lynne
Christopher Kings-Lynne [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Latest CVS, timetz and horology is failing... Would you poke into it and see why? I can, but I'm not sure what you want me to do - I'm not really familiar with it all bar the stuff I attached to the email... Chris

Re: [HACKERS] regression failure on freebsd/alpha

2003-02-03 Thread Tom Lane
Christopher Kings-Lynne [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Latest CVS, timetz and horology is failing... Would you poke into it and see why? I made some recent adjustments to the rounding code in timetz, but I didn't expect any portability issues to surface... regards, tom lane

Re: [HACKERS] PGP signing releases

2003-02-03 Thread Curt Sampson
On Mon, 3 Feb 2003, Kurt Roeckx wrote: I'm not saying md5 is as secure as pgp, not at all, but you can't trust those pgp keys to be the real one either. Sure you can. Just verify that they've been signed by someone you trust. For example, next time I happen to run into Bruce Momjian, I hope

Re: [HACKERS] regression failure on freebsd/alpha

2003-02-03 Thread Tom Lane
Christopher Kings-Lynne [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Would you poke into it and see why? I can, but I'm not sure what you want me to do - It shouldn't be that hard to find why you're getting zeroes instead of expected results. I'd look at those cases first. regards, tom

Re: [HACKERS] PGP signing releases

2003-02-03 Thread Greg Copeland
On Mon, 2003-02-03 at 13:55, Kurt Roeckx wrote: On Mon, Feb 03, 2003 at 12:24:14PM -0600, Greg Copeland wrote: On Sun, 2003-02-02 at 20:23, Marc G. Fournier wrote: right, that is why we started to provide md5 checksums ... md5 checksums only validate that the intended package

Re: [HACKERS] PGP signing releases

2003-02-03 Thread Greg Copeland
On Mon, 2003-02-03 at 22:35, Curt Sampson wrote: On Mon, 3 Feb 2003, Kurt Roeckx wrote: I'm not saying md5 is as secure as pgp, not at all, but you can't trust those pgp keys to be the real one either. Sure you can. Just verify that they've been signed by someone you trust. For

Re: [HACKERS] PGP signing releases

2003-02-03 Thread Curt Sampson
On Tue, 3 Feb 2003, Greg Copeland wrote: Surely there are a couple of key developers whom would be willing to sign each other's keys and have previously met before. Surely this would be the basis for phone validation. Then, of course, there is 'ol snail-mail route too. Of course, nothing

Re: [HACKERS] PGP signing releases

2003-02-03 Thread Greg Copeland
On Mon, 2003-02-03 at 22:35, Curt Sampson wrote: 2. Do I trust him to take care of his own key and be careful signing other keys? 3. Do I trust his opinion that the postgres release-signing key that he signed is indeed valid? 4. Do I trust the holder of the postgres

Re: [HACKERS] Win32 Powerfail testing - results

2003-02-03 Thread Hannu Krosing
Dave Page kirjutas E, 03.02.2003 kell 18:51: Well the results are finally in. Hopefully we can concentrate on putting them right, rather than having a round of told you so's :-) I modified the test program slightly to improve the consistency checks. The updated version is attached.

Re: [HACKERS] Win32 Powerfail testing - results

2003-02-03 Thread Dave Page
-Original Message- From: Hannu Krosing [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 03 February 2003 22:30 To: Dave Page Cc: PostgreSQL Hackers; Katie Ward Subject: Re: [HACKERS] Win32 Powerfail testing - results Your hardware should also be able to run Postgres on BeOS

Re: [HACKERS] Win32 and fsync()

2003-02-03 Thread Dave Page
-Original Message- From: Andrew Dunstan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 03 February 2003 22:47 To: PostgreSQL Hackers Subject: Re: [HACKERS] Win32 and fsync() I'm having difficulty digging up the reference, but I think I recall seeing something that said, roughly, on W32

Re: [HACKERS] On file locking

2003-02-03 Thread Giles Lean
Tom Lane wrote: On HPUX 10.20, flock doesn't seem to exist (hasn't got a man page nor any mention in /usr/include). Correct. Still isn't there in later releases. lockf says All locks for a process are released upon the first close of the file, even if the process still has

[HACKERS] [Fwd: Backporting parts of databases from a 7.3 server to 7.2 : How?]

2003-02-03 Thread Emmanuel Charpentier
Posted about 2 weeks to the General and Questions lists. Got no answers and found no workaround (yet !). Any ideas ? Emmanuel Charpentier PS : If possible, Please Cc: to [EMAIL PROTECTED] : I'm reading the list through the news server, and nor very often ... Original Message

Re: [HACKERS] Interactive Documentation - how do you want it towork?

2003-02-03 Thread Dave Page
-Original Message- From: Bruce Momjian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 03 February 2003 11:40 To: Dave Page Cc: Neil Conway; PostgreSQL Hackers Subject: Re: [HACKERS] Interactive Documentation - how do you want it towork? I looked at that URL, and it is good example of

Re: [PATCHES] [HACKERS] PostgreSQL libraries - PThread Support, but

2003-02-03 Thread Bruce Momjian
Your patch has been added to the PostgreSQL unapplied patches list at: http://momjian.postgresql.org/cgi-bin/pgpatches I will try to apply it within the next 48 hours. --- Lee Kindness wrote: Content-Description:

Re: [HACKERS] psql and readline

2003-02-03 Thread Bruce Momjian
Your patch has been added to the PostgreSQL unapplied patches list at: http://momjian.postgresql.org/cgi-bin/pgpatches I will try to apply it within the next 48 hours. --- Ross J. Reedstrom wrote: On Fri, Jan

Re: [HACKERS] Interactive Documentation - how do you want it towork?

2003-02-03 Thread Bruce Momjian
Dave Page wrote: I looked at that URL, and it is good example of what _not_ to do with interactive docs, IMHO. The manual page is _very_ short, and shows no examples. The comments have various examples/cases, with corrections later to earlier postings. I would think this is not

Re: [HACKERS] Interactive Documentation - how do you want it towork?

2003-02-03 Thread Bruce Momjian
Dave Page wrote: -Original Message- From: Bruce Momjian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 03 February 2003 11:40 To: Dave Page Cc: Neil Conway; PostgreSQL Hackers Subject: Re: [HACKERS] Interactive Documentation - how do you want it towork? I looked at that URL,

Re: [HACKERS] Interactive Documentation - how do you want it towork?

2003-02-03 Thread Dave Page
-Original Message- From: Bruce Momjian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 03 February 2003 13:04 To: Dave Page Cc: Neil Conway; PostgreSQL Hackers Subject: Re: [HACKERS] Interactive Documentation - how do you want it towork? Perhaps we should then prune the garbage out of the

Re: [HACKERS] Interactive Documentation - how do you want it

2003-02-03 Thread Rod Taylor
The only effort required would be to note and delete the 'junk' comments which is minimal work, especially if going through them anyway. There is no web interface for deletion (yet) but it will identify the comment IDs for you. I'm happy to accept lists of items to delete. Toss an 'Send note

Re: [HACKERS] MOVE LAST: why?

2003-02-03 Thread Bruce Momjian
The following patch removes FETCH LAST and instead supports FETCH ALL. It also clarifies the docs to mention it sits on the last row, not after the last row. Applied. --- Tom Lane wrote: Bruce Momjian [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [HACKERS] Interactive Documentation - how do you want it towork?

2003-02-03 Thread Tom Lane
Dave Page [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Perhaps we should then prune the garbage out of the old version, and make the comments version specific so that we start afresh with the new docs, but leave the useful comments against the older versions? It seems clear to me that the comments *should* be

Re: [HACKERS] Interactive Documentation - how do you want it towork?

2003-02-03 Thread Dave Page
-Original Message- From: Tom Lane [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 03 February 2003 14:39 To: Dave Page Cc: Bruce Momjian; Neil Conway; PostgreSQL Hackers Subject: Re: [HACKERS] Interactive Documentation - how do you want it towork? Dave Page [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Re: [HACKERS] constraint defaults still print

2003-02-03 Thread Bruce Momjian
OK, NO ACTION (the default) no longer prints for foreign key constraints: regression= \d clstr_tst Table public.clstr_tst Column | Type |Modifiers

Re: [HACKERS] Interactive Documentation - how do you want ittowork?

2003-02-03 Thread Dave Page
-Original Message- From: Rod Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 03 February 2003 13:18 To: Dave Page Cc: Bruce Momjian; Neil Conway; PostgreSQL Hackers Subject: Re: [HACKERS] Interactive Documentation - how do you want ittowork? The only effort required would be to

Re: [HACKERS] Win32 Powerfail testing - results

2003-02-03 Thread Vince Vielhaber
On Mon, 3 Feb 2003, Dave Page wrote: Well the results are finally in. Hopefully we can concentrate on putting them right, rather than having a round of told you so's :-) I modified the test program slightly to improve the consistency checks. The updated version is attached. [...] Run |

Re: [HACKERS] Win32 Powerfail testing - results

2003-02-03 Thread Rod Taylor
I modified the test program slightly to improve the consistency checks. The updated version is attached. For curiosity sake, I've compiled it and am running it on FreeBSD with soft-updates enabled. A few variable declarations needed to be bumped up to the top of their respective function. Any

Re: [HACKERS] Win32 Powerfail testing - results

2003-02-03 Thread Dave Page
Rod Taylor allegedly said: I modified the test program slightly to improve the consistency checks. The updated version is attached. For curiosity sake, I've compiled it and am running it on FreeBSD with soft-updates enabled. A few variable declarations needed to be bumped up to the top of

Re: [HACKERS] Win32 Powerfail testing - results

2003-02-03 Thread Tom Lane
Dave Page [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Rod Taylor allegedly said: Any change of tossing in a periodic VACUUM or would that throw off the results? Dunno, Tom could best answer that, but a *complete guess* based on piecing together tidbits of how it all works from various threads here, would be

Re: [HACKERS] Windows Build System - My final thoughts

2003-02-03 Thread Jan Wieck
Lamar Owen wrote: On Friday 31 January 2003 03:21, Bruce Momjian wrote: Man, I go away for one day, and look what you guys get into. :-) No duh. Whew. Lastly, SRA just released _today_ their first Win32 port of PostgreSQL, and it is _threaded_:

Re: [HACKERS] MOVE LAST: why?

2003-02-03 Thread Hiroshi Inoue
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Re: [HACKERS] Interactive Documentation - how do you want it towork?

2003-02-03 Thread Ronald Chmara
On Monday, February 3, 2003, at 04:39 AM, Bruce Momjian wrote: I looked at that URL, and it is good example of what _not_ to do with interactive docs, IMHO. The manual page is _very_ short, and shows no examples. The comments have various examples/cases, with corrections later to earlier