Re: [HACKERS] Values list-of-targetlists patch for comments (was Re: [PATCHES]

2006-08-02 Thread Michael Glaesemann
On Aug 2, 2006, at 12:47 , Joe Conway wrote: regression=# create rule r2 as on update to src do insert into log values(old.*, 'old'), (new.*, 'new'); ERROR: VALUES must not contain OLD or NEW references Would it make sense to add a HINT as well, recommending the UNION construct Tom

Re: [HACKERS] float8 regression failure (HEAD, cygwin)

2006-08-02 Thread Adrian Maier
On 01/08/06, Andrew Dunstan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tom Lane wrote: Andrew Dunstan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Would this do the trick? I think Bruce changed the call convention for run_diff ... are you looking at CVS tip? Otherwise it looks reasonable. You're right. I had forgotten to do

Re: [HACKERS] Postgres Process in Kernel Mode?

2006-08-02 Thread Lexington Luthor
moises wrote: Hello, I’m new in postgres SQL and I have some questions about the space where postgres process run. 1-Can any body say me what libs use postgres for make system calls, for example LIBC? 2-Can any body talk me if some postgres process can run in Linux kernel space? 3-

[HACKERS] Bug with initDB under windows 2003

2006-08-02 Thread dror bar
Hi All, On some windows 2003 machines the initDB process failed with the following error: Running in debug mode.The files belonging to this database system will be owned by user "V_MYUSER".This user must also own the server process. The database cluster will be initialized with locale

[HACKERS] DROP/IF_P EXISTS in gram.y

2006-08-02 Thread Michael Meskes
Is there any reason why all DROP statements except DROP CAST have two rules, one with IF_P EXISTS and one without, while DROP CAST uses opt_if_exists? Michael -- Michael Meskes Email: Michael at Fam-Meskes dot De, Michael at Meskes dot (De|Com|Net|Org) ICQ: 179140304, AIM/Yahoo: michaelmeskes,

Re: [HACKERS] DROP/IF_P EXISTS in gram.y

2006-08-02 Thread Andrew Dunstan
Michael Meskes wrote: Is there any reason why all DROP statements except DROP CAST have two rules, one with IF_P EXISTS and one without, while DROP CAST uses opt_if_exists? With all the others that was the only way to stop getting a grammar conflict, IIRC. cheers andrew

Re: [HACKERS] [PATCHES] Replication Documentation

2006-08-02 Thread Markus Schiltknecht
Hi, Bruce Momjian wrote: The idea being to define issues like multi/single master, async vs, sync, and mention the projects which are in each category. You could even add shared-nothing vs. shared-disk nodes. Generally I'd say it makes sense to 'educate' people, but does it really make

Re: [HACKERS] Hash indexes (was: On-disk bitmap index patch)

2006-08-02 Thread bob_jenkins
Kenneth Marshall wrote: On Fri, Jul 28, 2006 at 12:14:49PM -0500, Jim C. Nasby wrote: On Thu, Jul 27, 2006 at 01:46:01PM -0400, Alvaro Herrera wrote: Jim Nasby wrote: On Jul 25, 2006, at 3:31 PM, Tom Lane wrote: Hannu Krosing [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What would be the

Re: [HACKERS] Values list-of-targetlists patch for comments (was Re:

2006-08-02 Thread Bruce Momjian
Joe Conway wrote: Bruce Momjian wrote: Should we wait for someone to actually ask for this before adding it to the TODO list? Probably worth adding it to the TODO list so it doen't get lost. Added: o In rules, allow VALUES() to contain a mixture of 'old' and 'new'

Re: [HACKERS] Values list-of-targetlists patch for comments (was Re:

2006-08-02 Thread Bruce Momjian
Michael Glaesemann wrote: On Aug 2, 2006, at 12:47 , Joe Conway wrote: regression=# create rule r2 as on update to src do insert into log values(old.*, 'old'), (new.*, 'new'); ERROR: VALUES must not contain OLD or NEW references Would it make sense to add a HINT as well,

[HACKERS] ecpg test suite

2006-08-02 Thread Michael Meskes
I'm in the process of committing the first version of the ecpg regression test suite to CVS. This is not exactly finished work, but it shows OK on all test on my machine and on Joachim's machine. The tests need to be tweaked some before it's finished, but I'd like to hear about what others are

Re: [HACKERS] pg_dump dumping entire system catalogs

2006-08-02 Thread Bruce Momjian
Michael Fuhr wrote: pg_dump in HEAD is dumping the entire contents of system catalogs. New feature? :-( Yes, I see it. My testing didn't show the problem, but I see it now. I will find the cause. It is the new pg_dump flags added yesterday. -- Bruce Momjian [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [HACKERS] Values list-of-targetlists patch for comments (was Re:

2006-08-02 Thread Tom Lane
Bruce Momjian [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Michael Glaesemann wrote: Would it make sense to add a HINT as well, recommending the UNION construct Tom mentioned earlier? Agreed. Done. regards, tom lane ---(end of

Re: [HACKERS] ecpg test suite

2006-08-02 Thread Andrew Dunstan
Michael Meskes wrote: I'm in the process of committing the first version of the ecpg regression test suite to CVS. This is not exactly finished work, but it shows OK on all test on my machine and on Joachim's machine. The tests need to be tweaked some before it's finished, but I'd like to

Re: [HACKERS] Replication Documentation

2006-08-02 Thread Andrew Hammond
Peter Eisentraut wrote: Alvaro Herrera wrote: I don't think this sort of material belongs directly into the PostgreSQL documentation. Why not? PostgreSQL documentation (or any product documentation) should be factual: describe what the software does and give advice on its use. This

Re: [HACKERS] Replication Documentation

2006-08-02 Thread Markus Schiltknecht
Hi, Andrew Hammond wrote: I can see value in documenting what replication systems are known to work (for some definition of work) with a given release in the documentation for that release. Five years down the road when I'm trying to implement replication for a client who's somehow locked

Re: [HACKERS] On-disk bitmap index patch

2006-08-02 Thread Ron Mayer
Tom Lane wrote: Both of these pages say up front that they are considering read-only data. Can I assume read-mostly partitions could use the read-I/O efficient indexes on update-intensive partitions of the same table could use b-tree indexes? All of my larger (90GB+) tables can have

[HACKERS] Buildfarm failure - asp

2006-08-02 Thread Rocco Altier
Had a buildfarm failure on asp (AIX/gcc), because of an extra space in the Makefile.regress for ecpg. Attached is a patch to allow a clean compile. -rocco ecpg-test-Makefile.patch Description: ecpg-test-Makefile.patch ---(end of

Re: [HACKERS] Buildfarm failure - asp

2006-08-02 Thread Andrew Dunstan
applied. thanks andrew Rocco Altier wrote: Had a buildfarm failure on asp (AIX/gcc), because of an extra space in the Makefile.regress for ecpg. Attached is a patch to allow a clean compile. ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 1: if

Re: [HACKERS] Standby Mode

2006-08-02 Thread Josh Berkus
Simon, How close do your PITR patches take us to Oracle's Standby Databases? I'm trying to decide whether it's a major features for PR purposes or not. -- --Josh Josh Berkus PostgreSQL @ Sun San Francisco ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 6:

Re: [HACKERS] pg_dump dumping entire system catalogs

2006-08-02 Thread Bruce Momjian
Fixed. Thanks for the report. Glad you thought it was a feature. ;-) --- Bruce Momjian wrote: Michael Fuhr wrote: pg_dump in HEAD is dumping the entire contents of system catalogs. New feature? :-( Yes, I see

[HACKERS] 8.2 feature set

2006-08-02 Thread Bruce Momjian
I am thinking we will portray 8.2 as a release focused on usability improvements. We do have a few large features, like perhaps bit-mapped indexes, but in general, the release has a lot of additions that make things easier to use, rather than adding new features or performance. -- Bruce

Re: [HACKERS] 8.2 feature set

2006-08-02 Thread Josh Berkus
Bruce, I am thinking we will portray 8.2 as a release focused on usability improvements. We do have a few large features, like perhaps bit-mapped indexes, but in general, the release has a lot of additions that make things easier to use, rather than adding new features or performance. This

Re: [HACKERS] 8.2 feature set

2006-08-02 Thread Alvaro Herrera
Bruce Momjian wrote: I am thinking we will portray 8.2 as a release focused on usability improvements. We do have a few large features, like perhaps bit-mapped indexes, but in general, the release has a lot of additions that make things easier to use, rather than adding new features or

Re: [HACKERS] Standby Mode

2006-08-02 Thread Simon Riggs
On Wed, 2006-08-02 at 13:05 -0700, Josh Berkus wrote: How close do your PITR patches take us to Oracle's Standby Databases? I'm trying to decide whether it's a major features for PR purposes or not. That was pretty much the sweet spot I was aiming at. Many databases support such

Re: [HACKERS] Standby Mode

2006-08-02 Thread Tom Lane
Simon Riggs [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [I have an outstanding question on how to include LWlock support into the archiver, required to flesh out the feature set, and of course assuming these patches being accepted.] The archiver is deliberately designed not to be connected to shared memory. If

Re: [HACKERS] 8.2 feature set

2006-08-02 Thread Rick Gigger
Sorry if this is the wrong place for this but as far as I can tell there are only 2 features so far that I've seen discussed on hackers that are looking really good to me. I'm sure all the little changes will add up to a big win but these are the only two that would make me feel an urgent

[HACKERS] VALUES clause memory optimization (was: Values list-of-targetlists patch...)

2006-08-02 Thread Joe Conway
Tom Lane wrote: I think we could safely list_free the input list in transformInsertRow as your patch suggests, which would buy back the 144M part. But I don't believe it's safe at all to free the raw_parser output --- the grammar sometimes makes multiple links to the same subtree, eg in

[HACKERS] pg_terminate_backend

2006-08-02 Thread Andreas Pflug
Since I have a stuck backend without client again, I'll have to kill -SIGTERM a backend. Fortunately, I do have console access to that machine and it's not win32 but a decent OS. For other cases I'd really really really appreciate if that function would make it into 8.2. utils/adt/misc.c

Re: [HACKERS] pg_terminate_backend

2006-08-02 Thread Andrew Dunstan
Andreas Pflug wrote: Since I have a stuck backend without client again, I'll have to kill -SIGTERM a backend. Fortunately, I do have console access to that machine and it's not win32 but a decent OS. You do know that on Windows you can use pg_ctl to send a pseudo SIGTERM to a backend,

Re: [HACKERS] 8.2 feature set

2006-08-02 Thread Robert Treat
On Wednesday 02 August 2006 18:04, Bruce Momjian wrote: I am thinking we will portray 8.2 as a release focused on usability improvements. We do have a few large features, like perhaps bit-mapped indexes, but in general, the release has a lot of additions that make things easier to use, rather

Re: [HACKERS] 8.2 feature set

2006-08-02 Thread Joshua D. Drake
Robert Treat wrote: On Wednesday 02 August 2006 18:04, Bruce Momjian wrote: I am thinking we will portray 8.2 as a release focused on usability improvements. We do have a few large features, like perhaps bit-mapped indexes, but in general, the release has a lot of additions that make things

[HACKERS] Rebuilding DB from broken hardrive.

2006-08-02 Thread Yoon
I was trying postgres for about a year and the hard drive died. Using some block copy and other tools I was able to retrieve some data however it's missing directory names. Eventually, I was able to connect to my db. However, when I make a query. It comes back with following messages. WARNING:

Re: [HACKERS] 8.2 feature set

2006-08-02 Thread Bruce Momjian
Robert Treat wrote: On Wednesday 02 August 2006 18:04, Bruce Momjian wrote: I am thinking we will portray 8.2 as a release focused on usability improvements. We do have a few large features, like perhaps bit-mapped indexes, but in general, the release has a lot of additions that make