Re: [HACKERS] 7.4 Wishlist

2003-01-22 Thread Antti Haapala
> > SHOW > > > > > > I think 7.4 could and really should implement SHOW command similar to > > MySQL. Listing tables/foreign keys/views and so isn't just psql problem, > > Actually, in 7.4 I'd tell them to: > > select * from information_schema.tables; > > This is a far more portable metho

Re: [HACKERS] 7.4 Wishlist

2003-01-22 Thread Rod Taylor
On Wed, 2003-01-22 at 04:55, Antti Haapala wrote: > SHOW > > > I think 7.4 could and really should implement SHOW command similar to > MySQL. Listing tables/foreign keys/views and so isn't just psql problem, Actually, in 7.4 I'd tell them to: select * from information_schema.tables; This

Re: [HACKERS] 7.4 Wishlist

2003-01-22 Thread Antti Haapala
Ups... i sent an early draft of my post by accident, sorry... -- Antti Haapala +358 50 369 3535 ICQ: #177673735 ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 3: if posting/reading through Usenet, please send an appropriate subscribe-nomail command to [EMAIL PROTE

Re: [mail] Re: [HACKERS] 7.4 Wishlist

2002-12-10 Thread Al Sutton
;[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Al Sutton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Stephen L." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "PostgresSQL Hackers Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 8:04 PM Subject: Re: [mail] Re: [HACKERS] 7.4 Wishlist > Hello, >

Re: [mail] Re: [HACKERS] 7.4 Wishlist

2002-12-10 Thread Bruce Momjian
Yes, the issue was that give our TODO list, compressed transfer wasn't very high, and it was unknown how valuable it would be. However, if it were contributed, we could easily test its value with little work on our part and include the code if it were a win. -

Re: [mail] Re: [HACKERS] 7.4 Wishlist

2002-12-10 Thread Greg Copeland
On Tue, 2002-12-10 at 13:38, Bruce Momjian wrote: > I haven't heard anything about them contributing it. Doesn't mean it > will not happen, just that I haven't heard it. > This was in non-mailing list emails that I was told this by Joshua Drake at Command Prompt. Of course, that doesn't have t

Re: [mail] Re: [HACKERS] 7.4 Wishlist

2002-12-10 Thread Bruce Momjian
Greg Copeland wrote: > On Tue, 2002-12-10 at 11:25, Al Sutton wrote: > > Would it be possible to make compression an optional thing, with the default > > being off? > > > > I'm not sure. You'd have to ask Command Prompt (Mammoth) or wait to see > what appears. What I originally had envisioned w

Re: [mail] Re: [HACKERS] 7.4 Wishlist

2002-12-10 Thread Greg Copeland
. Hope you guys don't mind. Greg > - Original Message - > From: "Greg Copeland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Stephen L." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: "PostgresSQL Hackers Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, D

Re: [mail] Re: [HACKERS] 7.4 Wishlist

2002-12-10 Thread Al Sutton
se packets uncompressed. Al. - Original Message - From: "Greg Copeland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Stephen L." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "PostgresSQL Hackers Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 4:56 PM Subject: [mail]

Re: [HACKERS] 7.4 Wishlist

2002-12-10 Thread Greg Copeland
On Tue, 2002-12-10 at 09:36, Stephen L. wrote: > 6. Compression between client/server interface like in MySQL > Mammoth is supposed to be donating their compression efforts back to this project, or so I've been told. I'm not exactly sure of their time-line as I've slept since my last conversatio

Re: [HACKERS] 7.4 Wishlist

2002-12-10 Thread Stephen L.
Hi, if I may add to the wishlist for 7.4 in order of importance. Some items may have been mentioned or disputed already but I think they are quite important: 1. Avoid needing REINDEX after large insert/deletes or make REINDEX not use exclusive lock on table. 2. Automate VACUUM in background and ma

Re: [HACKERS] 7.4 Wishlist

2002-12-06 Thread Bruce Momjian
Kevin Brown wrote: > How useful would it be? Beats me. Like I said, you could perform > some "what if" games with a database this way that you currently > can't, but I don't know how useful that would be. On thinking about > it a bit, it seems option 1 would be the most useful and perhaps the >

Re: [HACKERS] 7.4 Wishlist

2002-12-06 Thread Kevin Brown
Tom Lane wrote: > "Magnus Naeslund(f)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Mysql is planning on making this work: > > SELECT id, @a:=COUNT(*), SUM(sum_col)/@a FROM table_name GROUP BY id. > > We're supposed to spend our time emulating nonstandard features that > don't even exist yet? I think I have

Re: [HACKERS] 7.4 Wishlist

2002-12-06 Thread Kevin Brown
Bruce Momjian wrote: > Kevin Brown wrote: > > I'd also like to see (if this is even possible) a transaction > > isolation mode that would make it possible for multiple concurrent > > updates to the same row to happen without blocking each other (I > > imagine one way to make this possible would be

Re: [HACKERS] 7.4 Wishlist

2002-12-04 Thread Bruce Momjian
Kevin Brown wrote: > Christopher Kings-Lynne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi guys, > > > > Just out of interest, if someone was going to pay you to hack on Postgres > > for 6 months, what would you like to code for 7.4? > > Well, on top of the oft-requested replication support and savepoint > s

Re: [HACKERS] 7.4 Wishlist

2002-12-04 Thread Kevin Brown
Christopher Kings-Lynne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi guys, > > Just out of interest, if someone was going to pay you to hack on Postgres > for 6 months, what would you like to code for 7.4? Well, on top of the oft-requested replication support and savepoint support, I'd like to see UPDATE, er,

Broadcast replication (Was Re: [HACKERS] 7.4 Wishlist)

2002-12-04 Thread Al Sutton
- Original Message - From: "Kevin Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 8:49 PM Subject: [mail] Re: [HACKERS] 7.4 Wishlist > Al Sutton wrote: > > Point to Point and Broadcast replication > >

Re: PostgreSQL in Universities (Was: Re: [HACKERS] 7.4 Wishlist)

2002-12-03 Thread Manuel Cabido
Hi: We at the Department of Information Technology of the Mindanao State University-Iligan Institute of Technology (MSU-IIT) in Iligan City, Philippines had been using PostgreSQL since 1998 in teaching courses in Databases, SQL, and as a support tool in teaching Software Engineering and Web App

Re: PostgreSQL in Universities (Was: Re: [HACKERS] 7.4 Wishlist)

2002-12-03 Thread Justin Clift
Marc G. Fournier wrote: Actually, there are lines, Justin just occasionally appears to 'blur' them until I get a chance to refresh them ... eh Justin?:) [innocent whistle] + Justin ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 1: subscribe and unsubscribe comma

Re: PostgreSQL in Universities (Was: Re: [HACKERS] 7.4 Wishlist)

2002-12-03 Thread Justin Clift
Marc G. Fournier wrote: On Tue, 3 Dec 2002, Justin Clift wrote: Excellent. Are there any other people involved in PostgreSQL and universities or educational institutions? If so we could put something together about experiences for the advocacy Web site. Is this the kind of thing that the Tech

Re: [HACKERS] 7.4 Wishlist

2002-12-03 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Joe Conway writes: > That is one thing I'd like to take a look at. I think the problem is that > certain byte-sequence/multibyte-encoding combinations are illegal, so it's not > as simple an issue as it might first appear. The bytea type really shouldn't come even close to having to care about th

Re: [HACKERS] 7.4 Wishlist

2002-12-03 Thread Rod Taylor
> The one good reason for making it possible to use raw partitions is to > make it possible to use the PostgreSQL engine as a filesystem! :-) Hmm.. Something just doesn't seem right about that thought ;) CREATE DATABASE filesystem; \c filesystem CREATE EXPORT /mnt AS NFS; \q mount_nfs -o port

Re: PostgreSQL in Universities (Was: Re: [HACKERS] 7.4 Wishlist)

2002-12-03 Thread Hans-Jürgen Schönig
Hi ... I just wanted to admit that an important collegue in Vienna already uses PostgreSQL instead of Oracle which makes me really proud :). We have done a training course this year and they use PostgreSQL instead of free Oracle I am happy that Austrian students are tortured with the things I ha

Re: PostgreSQL in Universities (Was: Re: [HACKERS] 7.4 Wishlist)

2002-12-03 Thread Dan Langille
On 3 Dec 2002 at 15:08, Vince Vielhaber wrote: > Where have you been? The lines of distinction between all of the > lists have gotten so blurred it hardly makes a difference. So consider this a wake up call. -- Dan Langille : http://www.langille.org/ ---(end of broadca

Re: [HACKERS] 7.4 Wishlist

2002-12-03 Thread Kevin Brown
Al Sutton wrote: > Point to Point and Broadcast replication > > With point to point you specify multiple endpoints, with broadcast you can > specify a subnet address and the updates are broadcast over that subnet. > > The difference being that point to poin

Re: PostgreSQL in Universities (Was: Re: [HACKERS] 7.4 Wishlist)

2002-12-03 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Tue, 3 Dec 2002, Vince Vielhaber wrote: > On Tue, 3 Dec 2002, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > > On Tue, 3 Dec 2002, Justin Clift wrote: > > > > > > Excellent. Are there any other people involved in PostgreSQL and > > > > universities or educational institutions? If so we could put something > > > >

Re: PostgreSQL in Universities (Was: Re: [HACKERS] 7.4 Wishlist)

2002-12-03 Thread Vince Vielhaber
On Tue, 3 Dec 2002, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > On Tue, 3 Dec 2002, Justin Clift wrote: > > > > Excellent. Are there any other people involved in PostgreSQL and > > > universities or educational institutions? If so we could put something > > > together about experiences for the advocacy Web site. >

Re: PostgreSQL in Universities (Was: Re: [HACKERS] 7.4 Wishlist)

2002-12-03 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Tue, 3 Dec 2002, Justin Clift wrote: > > Excellent. Are there any other people involved in PostgreSQL and > > universities or educational institutions? If so we could put something > > together about experiences for the advocacy Web site. > > Is this the kind of thing that the Techdocs Guides a

Re: [HACKERS] 7.4 Wishlist

2002-12-03 Thread Bruce Momjian
TODO updated. Thanks for the clarification. --- Hannu Krosing wrote: > On Tue, 2002-12-03 at 16:00, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > Is WITH a TODO item? > > It is disguised as > > Exotic Features > === > > * Add sq

Re: [HACKERS] 7.4 Wishlist

2002-12-03 Thread Hannu Krosing
On Tue, 2002-12-03 at 16:00, Bruce Momjian wrote: > Is WITH a TODO item? It is disguised as Exotic Features === * Add sql3 recursive unions Which was added at my request in dark times, possibly when PostgreSQL was called postgres95 ;) This should be changed to two items * Add SQ

Re: [HACKERS] 7.4 Wishlist

2002-12-03 Thread Bruce Momjian
Is WITH a TODO item? --- Hannu Krosing wrote: > On Tue, 2002-12-03 at 09:20, Dennis Bj?rklund wrote: > > On Tue, 3 Dec 2002, Magnus Naeslund(f) wrote: > > > > > Now convert this query so that it only evaluates the date_part

Re: [HACKERS] 7.4 Wishlist

2002-12-03 Thread Dennis Björklund
On 3 Dec 2002, Hannu Krosing wrote: > the standard way of doing it would be SQL99's WITH : Great! I havn't looked too much at sql99 yet so I've missed this. It's exactly what I want. Now I know what I will use in the future (when it's all implemented). -- /Dennis ---

Re: PostgreSQL in Universities (Was: Re: [HACKERS] 7.4 Wishlist)

2002-12-03 Thread Jan Hartmann
I'm certainly interested! I am working here on Geographical Information Systems with PostgreSQL/PostGIS with the Minnesota MapServer, with a lot of regular database work thrown in. PostgreSQL has great potential for teaching databases and SQL, and when the native Windows port is ready, it will

Re: [HACKERS] 7.4 Wishlist

2002-12-03 Thread Hannu Krosing
On Tue, 2002-12-03 at 09:20, Dennis Björklund wrote: > On Tue, 3 Dec 2002, Magnus Naeslund(f) wrote: > > > Now convert this query so that it only evaluates the date_part thing > > ONCE: > > > > select t.id, date_part('days',now()-t.stamp) from table_name t where > > date_part('days',now()-t.stamp

Re: [HACKERS] 7.4 Wishlist

2002-12-03 Thread Karel Zak
On Mon, Dec 02, 2002 at 12:48:38PM -0800, Christopher Kings-Lynne wrote: > But if there is, then the sum/count(*) is nonsensical anyway. You must to use it in SERIALIZABLE transaction isolation. Karel -- Karel Zak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://home.zf.jcu.cz/~zakkr/ -

Re: [HACKERS] 7.4 Wishlist

2002-12-03 Thread Dennis Björklund
On Tue, 3 Dec 2002, Magnus Naeslund(f) wrote: > Now convert this query so that it only evaluates the date_part thing > ONCE: > > select t.id, date_part('days',now()-t.stamp) from table_name t where > date_part('days',now()-t.stamp) > 20; Something like this could work: select * from (select t

Re: [HACKERS] 7.4 Wishlist

2002-12-02 Thread Tom Lane
"Magnus Naeslund(f)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Mysql is planning on making this work: > SELECT id, @a:=COUNT(*), SUM(sum_col)/@a FROM table_name GROUP BY id. We're supposed to spend our time emulating nonstandard features that don't even exist yet? I think I have better things to do ...

Re: [HACKERS] 7.4 Wishlist

2002-12-02 Thread Stephan Szabo
On Tue, 3 Dec 2002, Bruce Momjian wrote: > Magnus Naeslund(f) wrote: > > Good! > > Now convert this query so that it only evaluates the date_part thing > > ONCE: > > > > select t.id, date_part('days',now()-t.stamp) from table_name t where > > date_part('days',now()-t.stamp) > 20; > > > > I hope y

Re: [HACKERS] 7.4 Wishlist

2002-12-02 Thread Magnus Naeslund(f)
Stephan Szabo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 3 Dec 2002, Magnus Naeslund(f) wrote: > >> Now convert this query so that it only evaluates the date_part thing >> ONCE: > > That's not a good idea as long as t.stamp varies from row to row. ;) > Perhaps once per row, maybe... :) > I give up

Re: [HACKERS] 7.4 Wishlist

2002-12-02 Thread Stephan Szabo
On Tue, 3 Dec 2002, Magnus Naeslund(f) wrote: > Now convert this query so that it only evaluates the date_part thing > ONCE: That's not a good idea as long as t.stamp varies from row to row. ;) Perhaps once per row, maybe... :) > select t.id, date_part('days',now()-t.stamp) from table_name t wh

Re: [HACKERS] 7.4 Wishlist

2002-12-02 Thread Bruce Momjian
Magnus Naeslund(f) wrote: > Good! > Now convert this query so that it only evaluates the date_part thing > ONCE: > > select t.id, date_part('days',now()-t.stamp) from table_name t where > date_part('days',now()-t.stamp) > 20; > > I hope you all are kidding me in not seeing the real issue i'm tryi

Re: [HACKERS] 7.4 Wishlist

2002-12-02 Thread Christopher Kings-Lynne
> Good! > Now convert this query so that it only evaluates the date_part thing > ONCE: > > select t.id, date_part('days',now()-t.stamp) from table_name t where > date_part('days',now()-t.stamp) > 20; Yes, it's a bit of a bugger that one. > I hope you all are kidding me in not seeing the real issu

Re: [HACKERS] 7.4 Wishlist

2002-12-02 Thread Magnus Naeslund(f)
Bruce Momjian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Magnus Naeslund(f) wrote: >>> select id, sum(sum_col)||'/'||count(*) from table_name >>> group by id; >>> >>> or >>> >>> select table_name.id, sum(sum_col)||'/'||t2.count from table_name, >>> (select id, count(*) as count from table_name group by id) as

Re: [HACKERS] 7.4 Wishlist

2002-12-02 Thread Bruce Momjian
Magnus Naeslund(f) wrote: > > select id, sum(sum_col)||'/'||count(*) from table_name > > group by id; > > > > or > > > > select table_name.id, sum(sum_col)||'/'||t2.count from table_name, > > (select id, count(*) as count from table_name group by id) as t2 where > > table_name.id=t2.id group by t

Re: PostgreSQL in Universities (Was: Re: [HACKERS] 7.4 Wishlist)

2002-12-02 Thread Justin Clift
Gavin Sherry wrote: On Mon, 2 Dec 2002, Christopher Kings-Lynne wrote: I've given a talk in the 2002 honours lecture series at UWA about Postgres and some of the things it can do. All of those guys were interested. Especially since the deptartment does a lot of work in genetic algoriithms.

PostgreSQL in Universities (Was: Re: [HACKERS] 7.4 Wishlist)

2002-12-02 Thread Gavin Sherry
On Mon, 2 Dec 2002, Christopher Kings-Lynne wrote: > I've given a talk in the 2002 honours lecture series at UWA about Postgres > and some of the things it can do. All of those guys were interested. > Especially since the deptartment does a lot of work in genetic algoriithms. Excellent. Can you

Re: [HACKERS] 7.4 Wishlist

2002-12-02 Thread Christopher Kings-Lynne
> I might get together with some of the lecturers I've worked with in > Sydney to give such a document some weight. I must say, the problem is not > a technical one though. I've given talks to 3rd and 4th year students > about PostgreSQL -- technical, conceptual, political talks... you name > it. O

Re: [HACKERS] 7.4 Wishlist

2002-12-02 Thread Mike Mascari
Gavin Sherry wrote: I want to see: i) proper resource management a-la Oracle. This would allow a DBA to limited the amount of time any given user spends in the parser, planner or executor. It would be limited with a more sophisticated user system, including things like CREATE USER PROFILE ... A

Re: [HACKERS] 7.4 Wishlist

2002-12-02 Thread Gavin Sherry
On Mon, 2 Dec 2002, Christopher Kings-Lynne wrote: > > viii) General advocacy, particularly in pushing mainstream IT media > > coverage, conferences and university usage -- both for teaching SQL and > > for teach database engineering concepts for senior undergrads. > > Definitely. How about a re

Re: [HACKERS] 7.4 Wishlist

2002-12-02 Thread Christopher Kings-Lynne
> i) proper resource management a-la Oracle. This would allow a DBA to > limited the amount of time any given user spends in the parser, planner or > executor. It would be limited with a more sophisticated user system, > including things like CREATE USER PROFILE ... Hehehe - yeah this would be nea

Re: [HACKERS] 7.4 Wishlist

2002-12-02 Thread Gavin Sherry
I want to see: i) proper resource management a-la Oracle. This would allow a DBA to limited the amount of time any given user spends in the parser, planner or executor. It would be limited with a more sophisticated user system, including things like CREATE USER PROFILE ... ii) Auditing. Who acces

Re: [HACKERS] 7.4 Wishlist

2002-12-02 Thread Magnus Naeslund(f)
Hannu Krosing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Magnus Naeslund(f) kirjutas T, 03.12.2002 kell 03:18: >> It looks like it (7.2.x): >> >> # time psql genline -c "select id from " > /dev/null >> real0m0.694s >> user0m0.147s >> sys 0m0.025s >> # time psql genline -c "select id,id||'/'||(sel

Re: [HACKERS] 7.4 Wishlist

2002-12-02 Thread Hannu Krosing
Magnus Naeslund(f) kirjutas T, 03.12.2002 kell 03:18: > It looks like it (7.2.x): > > # time psql genline -c "select id from " > /dev/null > real0m0.694s > user0m0.147s > sys 0m0.025s > # time psql genline -c "select id,id||'/'||(select count(*) from ) > as x from " > /dev/

Re: [HACKERS] 7.4 Wishlist

2002-12-02 Thread Stephan Szabo
On Mon, 2 Dec 2002, Magnus Naeslund(f) wrote: > Stephan Szabo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > If you use a scalar subquery, yes, but I think a subselect in from > > would help, maybe something like (if you want the total count) > > > > select table_name.id, sum(sum_col)||'/'||t2.count from tabl

Re: [HACKERS] 7.4 Wishlist

2002-12-02 Thread Magnus Naeslund(f)
Stephan Szabo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If you use a scalar subquery, yes, but I think a subselect in from > would help, maybe something like (if you want the total count) > > select table_name.id, sum(sum_col)||'/'||t2.count from table_name, > (select count(*) as count from table_name) as t2

Re: [HACKERS] 7.4 Wishlist

2002-12-02 Thread Magnus Naeslund(f)
Christopher Kings-Lynne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Are you sure that postgres evaluates that subselect more than once? > It looks to me like it returns a constant result for every row and > hence it will be evaluated once per statement, not once per row. I'm > no expert tho. Can someone answer t

Re: [HACKERS] 7.4 Wishlist

2002-12-02 Thread Stephan Szabo
On Mon, 2 Dec 2002, Magnus Naeslund(f) wrote: > Christopher Kings-Lynne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Mysql is planning on making this work: > >> > >> SELECT id, @a:=COUNT(*), SUM(sum_col)/@a FROM table_name GROUP BY > >> id. > >> > >> Do we have anything like it (After a discussion with Tom i

Re: [HACKERS] 7.4 Wishlist

2002-12-02 Thread Christopher Kings-Lynne
> Yeah, but there is a point about running count(*) one time too many. > Say if i would like to get a prettyprinting query like this: > > SELECT id, @a:=COUNT(*), sum_col::text||'/'@a::text FROM table_name; > > That would be DAMN expensive doing with a subselect: > > SELECT id, sum_col||'/'||(selec

Re: [HACKERS] 7.4 Wishlist

2002-12-02 Thread Magnus Naeslund(f)
Christopher Kings-Lynne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Mysql is planning on making this work: >> >> SELECT id, @a:=COUNT(*), SUM(sum_col)/@a FROM table_name GROUP BY >> id. >> >> Do we have anything like it (After a discussion with Tom i figure >> no). User variables is nice, especially in these ki

Re: [HACKERS] 7.4 Wishlist

2002-12-02 Thread Christopher Kings-Lynne
> Mysql is planning on making this work: > > SELECT id, @a:=COUNT(*), SUM(sum_col)/@a FROM table_name GROUP BY id. > > Do we have anything like it (After a discussion with Tom i figure no). > User variables is nice, especially in these kind of queries. Well of course they have to make that work

Re: [HACKERS] 7.4 Wishlist

2002-12-02 Thread Magnus Naeslund(f)
Mysql is planning on making this work: SELECT id, @a:=COUNT(*), SUM(sum_col)/@a FROM table_name GROUP BY id. Do we have anything like it (After a discussion with Tom i figure no). User variables is nice, especially in these kind of queries. Nice would be to be able to use them as in C (almost e

Re: [HACKERS] 7.4 Wishlist

2002-12-02 Thread Bruce Momjian
Joe Conway wrote: > David Wheeler wrote: > > My understanding is that the nul character is legal in a byte sequence, > > but if it's not properly escaped, it'll be parsed as the end of the > > statement. Unfortunately, I think that it's a very tough problem to solve. > > No question wrt '\0' byt

Re: [HACKERS] 7.4 Wishlist

2002-12-02 Thread Prasanna Phadke
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Re: [HACKERS] 7.4 Wishlist

2002-12-02 Thread Nicolai Tufar
>> my wish: >> >> * error codes. It's very interesting that nobody other wants it... > >I do :-) > Me too. It is a must in my opinion.. Regards, Nic. ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 2: you can get off all lists at once with the unregister comman

Re: [HACKERS] 7.4 Wishlist

2002-12-02 Thread Igor Georgiev
Native Windows port Plz don't forget poor victims of Microsoft !!!

Re: [HACKERS] 7.4 Wishlist

2002-12-02 Thread Dave Page
> -Original Message- > From: Karel Zak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 02 December 2002 11:26 > To: Christopher Kings-Lynne > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [HACKERS] 7.4 Wishlist > > > On Fri, Nov 29, 2002 at 10:51:26AM -0800, Christopher >

Re: [HACKERS] 7.4 Wishlist

2002-12-02 Thread Karel Zak
On Fri, Nov 29, 2002 at 10:51:26AM -0800, Christopher Kings-Lynne wrote: > Hi guys, > > Just out of interest, if someone was going to pay you to hack on Postgres > for 6 months, what would you like to code for 7.4? This is interesting discussion.. my wish: * error codes. It's very intere

Re: [HACKERS] 7.4 Wishlist

2002-12-01 Thread Joe Conway
David Wheeler wrote: My understanding is that the nul character is legal in a byte sequence, but if it's not properly escaped, it'll be parsed as the end of the statement. Unfortunately, I think that it's a very tough problem to solve. No question wrt '\0' bytes -- they would have to be escaped

Re: [HACKERS] 7.4 Wishlist

2002-12-01 Thread Stephan Szabo
On Sun, 1 Dec 2002, Tom Lane wrote: > Stephan Szabo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > On 30 Nov 2002, Neil Conway wrote: > >> Have we decided how this would even work? Last I heard, Tom still had > >> some major reservations about the practicality of implementing these -- > >> for example, would you

Re: [HACKERS] 7.4 Wishlist

2002-12-01 Thread Tom Lane
Stephan Szabo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On 30 Nov 2002, Neil Conway wrote: >> Have we decided how this would even work? Last I heard, Tom still had >> some major reservations about the practicality of implementing these -- >> for example, would you re-evaluate all constraints that SELECT from a

Re: [HACKERS] 7.4 Wishlist

2002-12-01 Thread Florian Weimer
"Matthew T. O'Connor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > pg_dump, our upgrade process is painful enough having to do a dump, > reload. I think we should be able to guarantee (or at least let > much closer to it) that the process works in all cases. I would already be happy if pg_dump backed up my dat

Re: [HACKERS] 7.4 Wishlist

2002-12-01 Thread Stephan Szabo
On 30 Nov 2002, Neil Conway wrote: > On Sat, 2002-11-30 at 12:47, Stephan Szabo wrote: > > check constraints with subselects. > > Have we decided how this would even work? Last I heard, Tom still had > some major reservations about the practicality of implementing these -- > for example, would yo

Re: [HACKERS] 7.4 Wishlist

2002-11-30 Thread Tom Lane
Joe Conway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >- possibly enhanced connectby functionality (may not be worth it if > RECURSIVE JOIN functionality makes it into 7.4) Several of my Red Hat cohorts are pretty interested in making the RECURSIVE query stuff work for 7.4. (The fact that they're ex-DB

Re: [HACKERS] 7.4 Wishlist

2002-11-30 Thread David Wheeler
On Saturday, November 30, 2002, at 07:24 PM, Joe Conway wrote: That is one thing I'd like to take a look at. I think the problem is that certain byte-sequence/multibyte-encoding combinations are illegal, so it's not as simple an issue as it might first appear. My understanding is that the nul

Re: [HACKERS] 7.4 Wishlist

2002-11-30 Thread Joe Conway
David Wheeler wrote: On Saturday, November 30, 2002, at 04:14 PM, Joe Conway wrote: Not quite sure what you mean by delimiter -- are you referring to double escaping vs single escaping? Oh crap, yes, that's exactly what I meant. s/delimited/escaped/g; That is one thing I'd like to take a l

Re: [HACKERS] 7.4 Wishlist

2002-11-30 Thread Neil Conway
On Sat, 2002-11-30 at 12:47, Stephan Szabo wrote: > check constraints with subselects. Have we decided how this would even work? Last I heard, Tom still had some major reservations about the practicality of implementing these -- for example, would you re-evaluate all constraints that SELECT from a

Re: [HACKERS] 7.4 Wishlist

2002-11-30 Thread Christopher Kings-Lynne
> > My ones are: > > > > * Compliant ADD COLUMN > > * Integrated full text indexes > > * pg_dump dependency ordering > > > > What would you guys do? Even if it isn't feasible right now... Actually - I think I might add MODIFY COLUMN to that list. Just look at the list of poor buggers in the inte

Re: [HACKERS] 7.4 Wishlist

2002-11-30 Thread David Wheeler
On Saturday, November 30, 2002, at 04:14 PM, Joe Conway wrote: Not quite sure what you mean by delimiter -- are you referring to double escaping vs single escaping? Oh crap, yes, that's exactly what I meant. s/delimited/escaped/g; Sorry. :-) David -- David Wheeler

Re: [HACKERS] 7.4 Wishlist

2002-11-30 Thread Joe Conway
David Wheeler wrote: On Saturday, November 30, 2002, at 01:44 PM, Joe Conway wrote: * continue to improve usability of bytea datatype - easier explicit casting between bytea and text This wouldn't happen to include the idea of somehow eliminating the difference between how text strings are

Re: [HACKERS] 7.4 Wishlist

2002-11-30 Thread ow
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Re: [HACKERS] 7.4 Wishlist

2002-11-30 Thread David Wheeler
On Saturday, November 30, 2002, at 01:44 PM, Joe Conway wrote: * continue to improve usability of bytea datatype - easier explicit casting between bytea and text This wouldn't happen to include the idea of somehow eliminating the difference between how text strings are delimited and how byt

Re: [HACKERS] 7.4 Wishlist

2002-11-30 Thread Joe Conway
Christopher Kings-Lynne wrote: Hi guys, Just out of interest, if someone was going to pay you to hack on Postgres for 6 months, what would you like to code for 7.4? My ones are: * Compliant ADD COLUMN * Integrated full text indexes * pg_dump dependency ordering What would you guys do? Even if

Re: [HACKERS] 7.4 Wishlist

2002-11-30 Thread Dan Langille
Can you see this tying in with my recent hack of contrib/ltree to work with a wider range of node names? On Sat, 30 Nov 2002, Oleg Bartunov wrote: > Me and Teodor hope to work on contrib/ltree to add support for sort of > xml. Any ideas are welcome ! ---(end of broadcast

Re: [HACKERS] 7.4 Wishlist

2002-11-30 Thread Rod Taylor
On Sat, 2002-11-30 at 15:06, bpalmer wrote: > > * Compliant ADD COLUMN > > I've missed the thread (if there was one), how is it non-compliant? ALTER TABLE .. ADD COLUMN colname integer DEFAULT 42 NOT NULL CHECK(colname <= 42) REFERENCES tab2 ON DELETE CASCADE; Can't do the above in a single sta

Re: [HACKERS] 7.4 Wishlist

2002-11-30 Thread bpalmer
> * Compliant ADD COLUMN I've missed the thread (if there was one), how is it non-compliant? Thanks, - Brandon c: 917-697-8665h: 201-798-4983 b. palmer, [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [HACKERS] 7.4 Wishlist

2002-11-30 Thread Oleg Bartunov
Me and Teodor hope to work on contrib/ltree to add support for sort of xml. Any ideas are welcome ! Regards, Oleg On Fri, 29 Nov 2002, Christopher Kings-Lynne wrote: > Wow Hannu - your list puts mine to shame! > > > "Application server support" > > ---

Re: [HACKERS] 7.4 Wishlist

2002-11-30 Thread Gabor Csuri
Hi All, here is my wishlist /very short/ : * Oracle syntax support in OUTER JOIN Thanks, Gabor > Hans-Jürgen Schönig wrote: > > What I'd like to have in future versions of PostgreSQL: > > > > - PL/Sh should be in contrib. i know that the core team has decided > > not to put it in the core

Re: [HACKERS] 7.4 Wishlist

2002-11-30 Thread Stephan Szabo
On Fri, 29 Nov 2002, Christopher Kings-Lynne wrote: > Just out of interest, if someone was going to pay you to hack on Postgres > for 6 months, what would you like to code for 7.4? > What would you guys do? Even if it isn't feasible right now... Hmm, mine would probably be fixing foreign keys

Re: [HACKERS] 7.4 Wishlist

2002-11-30 Thread Bruce Momjian
Hannu Krosing wrote: > On Sat, 2002-11-30 at 16:13, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > Hans-J?rgen Sch?nig wrote: > > > What I'd like to have in future versions of PostgreSQL: > > > > > > - PL/Sh should be in contrib. i know that the core team has decided > > > not to put it in the core but contrib woul

Re: [HACKERS] 7.4 Wishlist

2002-11-30 Thread Hannu Krosing
On Sat, 2002-11-30 at 16:13, Bruce Momjian wrote: > Hans-Jürgen Schönig wrote: > > What I'd like to have in future versions of PostgreSQL: > > > > - PL/Sh should be in contrib. i know that the core team has decided > > not to put it in the core but contrib would be fine (I keep forgetting > >

Re: [HACKERS] 7.4 Wishlist

2002-11-30 Thread Bruce Momjian
Hans-Jürgen Schönig wrote: > What I'd like to have in future versions of PostgreSQL: > > - PL/Sh should be in contrib. i know that the core team has decided > not to put it in the core but contrib would be fine (I keep forgetting > the URL of Peters website :( ...) I like PL/Sh too, but too

Re: [HACKERS] 7.4 Wishlist

2002-11-30 Thread Hannu Krosing
On Sat, 2002-11-30 at 05:55, Alvaro Herrera wrote: > On Fri, Nov 29, 2002 at 10:51:26AM -0800, Christopher Kings-Lynne wrote: > > > Just out of interest, if someone was going to pay you to hack on Postgres > > for 6 months, what would you like to code for 7.4? > > Well, nobody is paying me, but I

Re: [HACKERS] 7.4 Wishlist

2002-11-30 Thread snpe
On Friday 29 November 2002 06:51 pm, Christopher Kings-Lynne wrote: > Hi guys, > > Just out of interest, if someone was going to pay you to hack on Postgres > for 6 months, what would you like to code for 7.4? > > My ones are: > > * Compliant ADD COLUMN > * Integrated full text indexes > * pg_dump

Re: [HACKERS] 7.4 Wishlist

2002-11-30 Thread Alice Lottini
Hi, although I'm just a novice in this mailing list I'd like to give my contribution to the 7.4 wishlist. I'd like to add to the PostgreSQL code some new low-level, primitive fuctions in order to give native support to FP-based algorithms for rule mining (Frequent Pattern Growth and extensions such

Re: [HACKERS] 7.4 Wishlist

2002-11-30 Thread Kaare Rasmussen
> And that's all ;) > > Hannu Krosing - and what will you do after January? ;-) Just kidding. I hope you have a big fat bank account if you want to finish all that! -- Kaare Rasmussen--Linux, spil,--Tlf:3816 2582 Kaki Datatshirts, me

Re: [HACKERS] 7.4 Wishlist

2002-11-30 Thread Al Sutton
- I've explained the reasons before. Apart from that it's always useful to open PostgreSQL up to a larger audience. - Original Message - From: "Daniele Orlandi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, November 29, 2002 11:06 PM Subject: [ma

Re: [HACKERS] 7.4 Wishlist

2002-11-30 Thread Hans-Jürgen Schönig
Oops, there is something I have forgotten: - "nicing" backends: this would be nice for administration tasks - CREATE DATABASE ... WITH MAXSIZE (many providers would like to see that; quotas are painful in this case - especially when porting the database to a different or a second server)

Re: [HACKERS] 7.4 Wishlist

2002-11-30 Thread Hans-Jürgen Schönig
What I'd like to have in future versions of PostgreSQL: - replication, replication, ... (you have seen that before). i guess most people would like to see that. - a dblink like system for connecting to remote database systems (not just PostgreSQL???) something like CREATE REMOTE VI

Re: [HACKERS] 7.4 Wishlist

2002-11-30 Thread Neil Conway
On Fri, 2002-11-29 at 13:51, Christopher Kings-Lynne wrote: > Just out of interest, if someone was going to pay you to hack on Postgres > for 6 months, what would you like to code for 7.4? Here's some of my current TODO list: * FOR EACH STATEMENT triggers (already done) * column lists for UPDATE

Re: [HACKERS] 7.4 Wishlist

2002-11-30 Thread Neil Conway
On Fri, 2002-11-29 at 18:06, Daniele Orlandi wrote: > - Better granularity of security and access control, like in mysql. Can you be more specific on exactly what features you'd like to see? > - Ability to reset the state of an open backend, including aborting open > transaction to allow for bet

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