Re: [JDBC] Ant installation (and other) issues!

2001-10-27 Thread Barry Lind
Because many developers of postgres work over dialup modems at speeds of 32k. 500KB over a 32Kb line is a problem. Especially if you aren't even planning on using jdbc, you still pay the price when doing a CVS checkout. --Barry Rene Pijlman wrote: > On Mon, 22 Oct 2001 19:22:19 -0400, Tom

Re: [JDBC] Ant installation (and other) issues!

2001-10-27 Thread Rene Pijlman
On Mon, 22 Oct 2001 19:22:19 -0400, Tom Lane wrote: >500k of binaries? You just lost the argument. That's not an acceptable >amount of overhead to add to the Postgres distribution. Why? 500K can easily fit on a floppy, and that's technology from the 1980's. Regards, René Pijlman <[EMAIL PROTEC

Re: [JDBC] Ant installation (and other) issues!

2001-10-23 Thread Michael Ansley (UK)
Title: RE: [JDBC] Ant installation (and other) issues! Why is this such a big issue?  Shipping the Ant binary would be like shipping the make binary, which seems silly to me.  However, I would far prefer to use Ant to build the JDBC driver.  So, is it not possible to simply maintain a

Re: [JDBC] Ant installation (and other) issues!

2001-10-23 Thread Per-Olof Norén
;[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 1:22 AM Subject: Re: [JDBC] Ant installation (and other) issues! > Gunnar =?iso-8859-1?q?R=F8nning?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > But anyway this off topic, what need to have is a build process that works > > nic

Re: [JDBC] Ant installation (and other) issues!

2001-10-22 Thread Gunnar Rønning
* Tom Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | | Gunnar =?iso-8859-1?q?R=F8nning?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | > But anyway this off topic, what need to have is a build process that works | > nicely and I think including the ant binaries(around 500k) would be the | > best solution here. | | 500k of

Re: [JDBC] Ant installation (and other) issues!

2001-10-22 Thread Bruce Momjian
> Gunnar =?iso-8859-1?q?R=F8nning?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > But anyway this off topic, what need to have is a build process that works > > nicely and I think including the ant binaries(around 500k) would be the > > best solution here. > > 500k of binaries? You just lost the argument.

Re: [JDBC] Ant installation (and other) issues!

2001-10-22 Thread Ned Wolpert
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 22-Oct-2001 Bruce Momjian wrote: > A more important point is that we are not a java-only codebase. If we > were, I could see a stronger argument for Ant. As it is now, we have to > weigh using a Java-standard Ant vs. a PostgreSQL/C-standard make

Re: [JDBC] Ant installation (and other) issues!

2001-10-22 Thread Tom Lane
Gunnar =?iso-8859-1?q?R=F8nning?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > But anyway this off topic, what need to have is a build process that works > nicely and I think including the ant binaries(around 500k) would be the > best solution here. 500k of binaries? You just lost the argument. That's not a

Re: [JDBC] Ant installation (and other) issues!

2001-10-22 Thread Marko Kreen
On Sat, Oct 20, 2001 at 03:54:12PM +0200, Per-Olof Norén wrote: > Hi all, > I have been listening to the discussions about Ant and the build system. > I think that the discussion is missing a point, which I will try to make here :-) [ points for using Ant ] I would describe current JDBC build to

Re: [JDBC] Ant installation (and other) issues!

2001-10-22 Thread Gunnar Rønning
* Peter Eisentraut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | | Per-Olof Norén writes: | | > The Ant build system is making its way to be a "de facto" standard for building |java applications as | > it is built for the purpose. | | Make as been the standard for building any application for about 30 years. |

Re: [JDBC] Ant installation (and other) issues!

2001-10-22 Thread Bruce Momjian
> Per-Olof Nor?n writes: > > > The Ant build system is making its way to be a "de facto" standard for building >java applications as > > it is built for the purpose. > > Make as been the standard for building any application for about 30 years. > GNU-style configure has been the standard for co

Re: [JDBC] Ant installation (and other) issues!

2001-10-22 Thread Barry Lind
Per-Olof Norén wrote: > Hi all, > > I have been listening to the discussions about Ant and the build system. > > I think that the discussion is missing a point, which I will try to make > here :-) > > > > 1. Standard > > The Ant build system is making its way to be a "de facto" standard

OT Re: [JDBC] Ant installation (and other) issues!

2001-10-22 Thread Ned Wolpert
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 21-Oct-2001 Peter Eisentraut wrote: > Per-Olof Norén writes: >> The Ant build system is making its way to be a "de facto" standard for >> building java applications as it is built for the purpose. > > Make as been the standard for building any ap

Re: [JDBC] Ant installation (and other) issues!

2001-10-22 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Per-Olof Norén writes: > The Ant build system is making its way to be a "de facto" standard for building java >applications as > it is built for the purpose. Make as been the standard for building any application for about 30 years. GNU-style configure has been the standard for configuration ma

Re: [JDBC] Ant ???

2001-05-28 Thread Dave Cramer
If you want to avoid compiling the driver you can get the binaries for postgres at http://jdbc.fastcrypt.com Dave - Original Message - From: "rjtalbo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Bruce Momjian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2001 1

Re: [JDBC] Ant ???

2001-05-26 Thread Jani Averbach
On Sat, 26 May 2001, rjtalbo wrote: > > What is it and where can I get it?? > And can I still use VAJ 3.0 after compile and install. > http://jakarta.apache.org/ant/index.html Please read the Ant's installation instruction before to try compile postgres-jdbc. Otherwice you will be in stuck.