Re: [PATCHES] running script on server shutdown (TODO)

2005-12-11 Thread Michael Paesold
Joshua D. Drake wrote: I guess I just don't understand why so many other projects larger then us and much smaller then us can do it, but we can't. Perhaps it is a question of project culture. As I see PostgreSQL development, there is no such thing as a roadmap or an agreed plan, what "the gro

Re: [PATCHES] running script on server shutdown (TODO)

2005-12-11 Thread Bruce Momjian
Joshua D. Drake wrote: > >> It would also be useful to see who has signed on as the lead or to work on > >> a particular subproject in case other developers would like to either lead > >> or help a lead on the project. > >> > >> I would request a vote interface but I think we would get to many > >>

Re: [PATCHES] running script on server shutdown (TODO)

2005-12-11 Thread Joshua D. Drake
It would also be useful to see who has signed on as the lead or to work on a particular subproject in case other developers would like to either lead or help a lead on the project. I would request a vote interface but I think we would get to many mysqlisms ;) You are dreaming on this one. Man

Re: [PATCHES] running script on server shutdown (TODO)

2005-12-11 Thread Bruce Momjian
Joshua D. Drake wrote: > > Why is the TODO list keep in the source code repository, anyway? One > > alternative would be to move it to a wiki. That would allow other people > > to contribute to maintaining the list, with less procedural overhead. > > The GCC folks do this, for example: example: htt

Re: [PATCHES] running script on server shutdown (TODO)

2005-12-11 Thread Bruce Momjian
Neil Conway wrote: > I agree, but I think this is another symptom of having only one person > maintain the list. It is a non-trivial amount of work to understand all > the arguments in a complex -hackers thread and distill that into a few > accurate sentences that summarize the consensus (if there

Re: [PATCHES] running script on server shutdown (TODO)

2005-12-11 Thread Bruce Momjian
Neil Conway wrote: > On Sat, 2005-12-10 at 21:16 -0500, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > Not sure what else can be done to improve this process. > > I think the barrier to adding new TODO entries or modifying existing > ones is too high. While it's great that Bruce maintains the list, the > inevitable res

Re: [PATCHES] running script on server shutdown (TODO)

2005-12-11 Thread Bruce Momjian
Neil Conway wrote: > I don't see that we're "covered": sure, it's documented that people > ought to ask on -hackers first, but this exact situation has happened > several times in the past. Avoiding that would be a good thing, > documentation or no. If you want to change the system we use for the

Re: [PATCHES] running script on server shutdown (TODO)

2005-12-11 Thread Neil Conway
On Mon, 2005-12-12 at 09:39 +0800, Christopher Kings-Lynne wrote: > Call me crazy - but isn't this what you usually use a bug tracker for? Well, some people do. I don't really see the point, though. What advantages would it have? -Neil ---(end of broadcast)-

Re: [PATCHES] running script on server shutdown (TODO)

2005-12-11 Thread Christopher Kings-Lynne
Short of going to a wiki, I think we can at least make it easier for other committers to modify the TODO list. What format is doc/TODO in, anyway? (It doesn't seem to be normal plaintext.) Why is there also an HTML copy of the TODO list (doc/src/FAQ/TODO.html) kept in CVS? (I'd rather we not keep

Re: [PATCHES] running script on server shutdown (TODO)

2005-12-11 Thread Mark Kirkwood
Tom Lane wrote: The real problem that I see is that Bruce abstracts the discussions down into one-line summaries that frequently omit critical information. I would like to see all the TODO items include links to the archived threads that led up to them. I think that would be the single most

Re: [PATCHES] running script on server shutdown (TODO)

2005-12-11 Thread Joshua D. Drake
Why is the TODO list keep in the source code repository, anyway? One alternative would be to move it to a wiki. That would allow other people to contribute to maintaining the list, with less procedural overhead. The GCC folks do this, for example: example: http://gcc.gnu.org/wiki/ I agree with t

Re: [PATCHES] running script on server shutdown (TODO)

2005-12-11 Thread Neil Conway
On Sun, 2005-12-11 at 11:55 -0500, Tom Lane wrote: > That seems unlikely to improve the quality of the list :-(. With the > present process, entries are made after some discussion on the mailing > list, and at least most of the time there's some consensus that an idea > is good. With a wiki, anyo

Re: [PATCHES] running script on server shutdown (TODO)

2005-12-11 Thread Tom Lane
Neil Conway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sat, 2005-12-10 at 21:16 -0500, Bruce Momjian wrote: >> Not sure what else can be done to improve this process. > Why is the TODO list keep in the source code repository, anyway? One > alternative would be to move it to a wiki. That seems unlikely to i

Re: [PATCHES] running script on server shutdown (TODO)

2005-12-11 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Bruce Momjian wrote: > Well, the item was added at the request of Peter Eisentraut and > Martijn van Oosterhout and took place on hackers. The TODO addition > was posted too: > http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-hackers/2005-12/msg00333.php The discussion did not mention anything about ru

Re: [PATCHES] is not distinct from

2005-12-11 Thread Neil Conway
On Fri, 2005-11-25 at 17:01 +0100, Pavel Stehule wrote: > small patch, add form is not distinct from expression (sql2003) Applied to HEAD -- thanks for the patch. -Neil ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 2: Don't 'kill -9' the postmaster

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[PATCHES] nls_sort function has not beed added in contrib in version 8.1.0

2005-12-11 Thread Mahmoud Taghizadeh
 Dear All    I had some discussion to convince the maintainer of postgresql to add nls_sort function to the contribution. he accepted to add this function in release of 8.1 but unfortunately he did not. This feature is needed by some governmental organization that we convince them to use pos

Re: [PATCHES] running script on server shutdown (TODO)

2005-12-11 Thread Neil Conway
On Sat, 2005-12-10 at 21:16 -0500, Bruce Momjian wrote: > Not sure what else can be done to improve this process. I think the barrier to adding new TODO entries or modifying existing ones is too high. While it's great that Bruce maintains the list, the inevitable result is that the list tends to r