Re: [Pharo-dev] Versioner does not work on Pharo 4

2014-09-19 Thread Christophe Demarey
Hi Kilon, You error is strange. I use Versionner on Pharo 4.0 without any problem. If I take a closer look at the stack trace, the error comes from the MetacelloToolBox when Versionner asks for configuration classes. What is really strange is that after this message sent, the stack shows the

Re: [Pharo-dev] Versioner does not work on Pharo 4

2014-09-19 Thread kilon alios
Well to kepp you updated , because I did not bother replying to my own thread since none seemed to care or have the same issue as me. I tried on windows again same error as macos on a fresh image by the way. So I know it must not be me. But now with a latest Pharo 4 image i get no errors in both

Re: [Pharo-dev] Versioner does not work on Pharo 4

2014-09-19 Thread Christophe Demarey
Le 19 sept. 2014 à 11:21, kilon alios a écrit : Well to kepp you updated , because I did not bother replying to my own thread since none seemed to care or have the same issue as me. I was out of office last days ... I tried on windows again same error as macos on a fresh image by the way.

Re: [Pharo-dev] Versioner does not work on Pharo 4

2014-09-19 Thread kilon alios
just for the record I have not created any kind of configuration in Ephestos. The code that you can download from Smalltalkhub or github is the only thing that lives inside the image. I use Smalltalkhub as a backup for github repo until I make sure filetree is a reliable way to work with github

[Pharo-dev] Versioner does not work on Pharo 4

2014-09-17 Thread kilon alios
So I tried today to open versioner to make a configuration for Ephestos and i got this error RBMethodNode(Object)doesNotUnderstand: #asSequenceNode EphPyParser class(Object)mustBeBooleanInMagic: EphPyParser class(Object)mustBeBoolean MetacelloProjectRegistration classExecuteUnOptimizedIn:

Re: [Pharo-dev] Versioner

2014-07-02 Thread Norbert Hartl
Am 30.06.2014 um 20:50 schrieb Stephan Eggermont step...@stack.nl: Kilon wrote: I disagreed with this Stephan That being said, I am getting a bit nervous about how versioner is released. It should aim to improve the way people can work, and not to create a single workflow for all

Re: [Pharo-dev] Versioner

2014-07-01 Thread stepharo
That is exactly my point. But Stef currently tries to enforce this workflow of working to Moose. And since this workflow will not work well for Moose (because of the demands on the process), I object to this. I don't think Stef wants to impose the workflow. Stef wants to improve code

Re: [Pharo-dev] Versioner

2014-07-01 Thread stepharo
Your response shows that I have not made my point well. I wanted to point out that we need different workflows because of the different demands. A workflow is more than only a tool, but starts with people building something and ends with people using something. And you point out that

Re: [Pharo-dev] Versioner

2014-07-01 Thread Christophe Demarey
Hi Stephan, Le 30 juin 2014 à 20:50, Stephan Eggermont a écrit : Kilon wrote: I disagreed with this Stephan That being said, I am getting a bit nervous about how versioner is released. It should aim to improve the way people can work, and not to create a single workflow for all people

Re: [Pharo-dev] Versioner

2014-06-30 Thread kilon alios
I just don't see it the way you do. For me Versioner is a tool to make life a bit easier with Configurations, its not the one ring to rule them all , far from it. What stops anyone from implementing his own configuration tool ? On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 10:23 AM, Diego Lont diego.l...@delware.nl

Re: [Pharo-dev] Versioner

2014-06-30 Thread Stephan Eggermont
Kilon wrote: I just don't see it the way you do. That's fine, you work in a different context than we do. What do you disagree on? You might have missed a discussion on the Moose list. There Stef proposed to use Versioner to manage the Moose configuration, and use it in a specific way. We

Re: [Pharo-dev] Versioner

2014-06-30 Thread Dale Henrichs
On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 8:49 AM, Stephan Eggermont step...@stack.nl wrote: Kilon wrote: I just don't see it the way you do. Versioner makes life easier for a specific kind of projects. It is important to be aware of its limitations. What stops anyone from implementing his own configuration

Re: [Pharo-dev] Versioner

2014-06-30 Thread kilon alios
Stephan--- That's fine, you work in a different context than we do. What do you disagree on? I disagreed with this Stephan That being said, I am getting a bit nervous about how versioner is released. It should aim to improve the way people can work, and *not* to

Re: [Pharo-dev] Versioner

2014-06-30 Thread Dale Henrichs
On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 10:01 AM, kilon alios kilon.al...@gmail.com wrote: --Dale- Smalltalk with it's heavy reliance on GUI-based tools is not quite as easy to customize (for several reasons) ... before knickers get knotted, please keep in mind that I think that

Re: [Pharo-dev] Versioner

2014-06-30 Thread Esteban A. Maringolo
2014-06-30 13:15 GMT-03:00 Dale Henrichs dale.henri...@gemtalksystems.com: Smalltalk with it's heavy reliance on GUI-based tools is not quite as easy to customize (for several reasons) ... before knickers get knotted, please keep in mind that I think that customizable GUI-based tools are

Re: [Pharo-dev] Versioner

2014-06-30 Thread Stephan Eggermont
Kilon wrote: I disagreed with this Stephan That being said, I am getting a bit nervous about how versioner is released. It should aim to improve the way people can work, and not to create a single workflow for all people working on pharo projects. I hope my fears are unfounded. this what I

Re: [Pharo-dev] Versioner

2014-06-30 Thread Dale Henrichs
Esteban, Just to be clear, I believe that there should be Smalltalk scripting/cli from within the image (augment workspace usage) as well as from without ... more food (for lunch) thought:) Dale On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 11:36 AM, Esteban A. Maringolo emaring...@gmail.com wrote: 2014-06-30