Re: [Pharo-dev] ConfigurationOfIDE, ConfigurationOfMorphicUI

2014-06-11 Thread Luc Fabresse
Congrats! Luc 2014-06-10 22:02 GMT+02:00 Pavel Krivanek pavel.kriva...@gmail.com: Hi, I were successful in two small battles on the remodularization front. Firstly I'm able again to build image with ConfigurationOfIDE:

Re: [Pharo-dev] vm over android

2014-06-11 Thread Hilaire Fernandes
Yes, it requires investment. My dream was to earn a few money with DrGeo on tablet to pay grant to people to work a bit on Pharo4Tablet. I was over optimistic. May be iStoa would have better chance because of a larger audience, but there is a lot to do. However it is very interesting to develop

Re: [Pharo-dev] Windows VM question

2014-06-11 Thread Hilaire Fernandes
In that case you then need a .bat file to start it, right? Le 10/06/2014 22:39, Nicolai Hess a écrit : As long as the libraries are accessible from the path environment variable. create directory dll put all dlls into that directory SET PATH=%PATH%;dll pharo.exe . -- Dr. Geo

Re: [Pharo-dev] Windows VM question

2014-06-11 Thread Nicolai Hess
2014-06-11 9:22 GMT+02:00 Hilaire Fernandes hilaire.fernan...@gmail.com: In that case you then need a .bat file to start it, right? yes Le 10/06/2014 22:39, Nicolai Hess a écrit : As long as the libraries are accessible from the path environment variable. create directory dll put

[Pharo-dev] [Pharo4] call for a cleaning of the issue tracker

2014-06-11 Thread Marcus Denker
Hi, Now that the infrastructure for Pharo4 is working, everyone should have a look at the issue tracker. - Which of the issues are still current? - The ones assigned to you, is this still correct (that is, are you actively working on them?) - If there is a fix, has it been committed to the

Re: [Pharo-dev] ConfigurationOfIDE, ConfigurationOfMorphicUI

2014-06-11 Thread Tudor Girba
Wow. Thank you! Doru On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 10:02 PM, Pavel Krivanek pavel.kriva...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I were successful in two small battles on the remodularization front. Firstly I'm able again to build image with ConfigurationOfIDE:

Re: [Pharo-dev] ConfigurationOfIDE, ConfigurationOfMorphicUI

2014-06-11 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
On 11 Jun 2014, at 10:14, Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com wrote: Wow. Thank you! +1 Doru On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 10:02 PM, Pavel Krivanek pavel.kriva...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I were successful in two small battles on the remodularization front. Firstly I'm able again to build

[Pharo-dev] [Pharo.org] small DNS change: www.pharo.org as forward

2014-06-11 Thread Marcus Denker
Hi, I have changed the DNS setup so www.pharo.org is now forwarding to pharo.org (so that we have just one copy of the website, everything else is a forward). This needs to be tested after DNS propagation. Marcus

[Pharo-dev] [website] new news entry: talk NDC Oslo

2014-06-11 Thread Marcus Denker
Hi, I added a new entry: http://pharo.org/news/playing-with-live-objects Marcus

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo.org] small DNS change: www.pharo.org as forward

2014-06-11 Thread Marcus Denker
On 11 Jun 2014, at 10:24, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: Hi, I have changed the DNS setup so www.pharo.org is now forwarding to pharo.org (so that we have just one copy of the website, everything else is a forward). This needs to be tested after DNS propagation. Just

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo.org] small DNS change: www.pharo.org as forward

2014-06-11 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
On 11 Jun 2014, at 10:53, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: On 11 Jun 2014, at 10:24, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: Hi, I have changed the DNS setup so www.pharo.org is now forwarding to pharo.org (so that we have just one copy of the website, everything else

Re: [Pharo-dev] [website] Small updates to Documentation page

2014-06-11 Thread kilon alios
thank you Marcus On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 8:01 PM, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: http://pharo.org/documentation - added talk of Doru to the presentations. - added Pharo for the Enterprise to the book section. Marcus

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo.org] small DNS change: www.pharo.org as forward

2014-06-11 Thread kilon alios
works here too On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 11:57 AM, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote: On 11 Jun 2014, at 10:53, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: On 11 Jun 2014, at 10:24, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: Hi, I have changed the DNS setup so

Re: [Pharo-dev] [website] new news entry: talk NDC Oslo

2014-06-11 Thread kilon alios
very good presentation that clearly shows the capabilities of Pharo. If that does not convince people to use / try pharo, nothing will :) On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 11:33 AM, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: Hi, I added a new entry: http://pharo.org/news/playing-with-live-objects

[Pharo-dev] [issue tracker] back porting 4 to 3

2014-06-11 Thread Marcus Denker
Hi, When there are issues that people wan to have back ported, the easiest (which worked very nicely last year) is this: 1) add the “back port” issue as the *parent* of the main issue tracker entry. 2) make sure to do a slice early, it’s very easy to do when it is not yet integrated in Pharo4

[Pharo-dev] news from block :)

2014-06-11 Thread stepharo
looks so exciting... From: Alain Plantec alain.plan...@univ-brest.fr Subject: Bloc news Date: 11 Jun 2014 14:10:29 GMT+2 To: Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr Cc: Alain Plantec alain.plan...@univ-brest.fr Name: Bloc-Core-AlainPlantec.15 Author: AlainPlantec Time: 11 June 2014,

Re: [Pharo-dev] [issue tracker] back porting 4 to 3

2014-06-11 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
Marcus Denker-4 wrote When there are issues that people wan to have back ported... We should save this procedure in a more permanent place... - Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/issue-tracker-back-porting-4-to-3-tp4762606p4762613.html Sent from the Pharo

Re: [Pharo-dev] [issue tracker] back porting 4 to 3

2014-06-11 Thread Marcus Denker
On 11 Jun 2014, at 14:59, Sean P. DeNigris s...@clipperadams.com wrote: Marcus Denker-4 wrote When there are issues that people wan to have back ported... We should save this procedure in a more permanent place... Indeed… I will put it somewhere. - Cheers, Sean -- View this

Re: [Pharo-dev] news from block :)

2014-06-11 Thread François Stephany
What is bloc ? I've searched in the pharo-dev list but couldn't find it :/ On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 2:26 PM, stepharo steph...@free.fr wrote: looks so exciting... From: Alain Plantec alain.plan...@univ-brest.fr Subject: Bloc news Date: 11 Jun 2014 14:10:29 GMT+2 To: Stéphane Ducasse

[Pharo-dev] ZeroConf scripts download progress

2014-06-11 Thread Esteban A. Maringolo
Can the zeroconf download of the image and/or vm display a progress? It is... remove the --silent and --quiet arguments from curl and wget respectively :) Thank you! Esteban A. Maringolo

Re: [Pharo-dev] ZeroConf scripts download progress

2014-06-11 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
On 11 Jun 2014, at 10:41, Esteban A. Maringolo emaring...@gmail.com wrote: Can the zeroconf download of the image and/or vm display a progress? It is... remove the --silent and --quiet arguments from curl and wget respectively :) Thank you! mmm… I do not think so, since zeroconf scripts

Re: [Pharo-dev] ZeroConf scripts download progress

2014-06-11 Thread Max Leske
On 11.06.2014, at 15:45, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com wrote: On 11 Jun 2014, at 10:41, Esteban A. Maringolo emaring...@gmail.com wrote: Can the zeroconf download of the image and/or vm display a progress? It is... remove the --silent and --quiet arguments from curl and wget

Re: [Pharo-dev] Brainstorming Pharo4

2014-06-11 Thread Yuriy Tymchuk
Hi everyone. I would also add here the issue with side-scroll handling. I don’t know if anybody uses this “feature” but it’s really annoying that when you use trackpad it always switches focus to adjacent panels. Uko On 04 Jun 2014, at 17:36, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com wrote: Hi,

Re: [Pharo-dev] ZeroConf scripts download progress

2014-06-11 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
On 11 Jun 2014, at 10:54, Max Leske maxle...@gmail.com wrote: On 11.06.2014, at 15:45, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com wrote: On 11 Jun 2014, at 10:41, Esteban A. Maringolo emaring...@gmail.com wrote: Can the zeroconf download of the image and/or vm display a progress? It

Re: [Pharo-dev] ZeroConf scripts download progress

2014-06-11 Thread Max Leske
On 11.06.2014, at 15:59, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com wrote: On 11 Jun 2014, at 10:54, Max Leske maxle...@gmail.com wrote: On 11.06.2014, at 15:45, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com wrote: On 11 Jun 2014, at 10:41, Esteban A. Maringolo emaring...@gmail.com wrote: Can

Re: [Pharo-dev] [website] new news entry: talk NDC Oslo

2014-06-11 Thread Tudor Girba
Thanks :). Just some background information: As you can see, I used the GTInspector to show the liveliness of the system. I actually used the Moose image + some other goodies (like Seaside, Postgres connection and a couple of others). I tried this story for the first time, and while it still

[Pharo-dev] Compressing changes

2014-06-11 Thread Esteban A. Maringolo
After installing a Metacelllo config referencing some other projects (Seaside, Glorp, Neo*, etc.) the base Changes file went from a few Kb to ~40Mb. Can this changes file be condensed somehow? Regards, Esteban A. Maringolo

Re: [Pharo-dev] ZeroConf scripts download progress

2014-06-11 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
does not work. bash will execute the script (without any option). What I ask is: how do you tell bash that he needs to transfer a flag “-v” to the downloaded script? Esteban On 11 Jun 2014, at 11:07, Max Leske maxle...@gmail.com wrote: On 11.06.2014, at 15:59, Esteban Lorenzano

Re: [Pharo-dev] ZeroConf scripts download progress

2014-06-11 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
unless you are suggesting that he can do something like curl get.pharo.org myScript.sh bash myScript.sh -v that can work On 11 Jun 2014, at 11:27, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com wrote: does not work. bash will execute the script (without any option). What I ask is: how do you tell

Re: [Pharo-dev] news from block :)

2014-06-11 Thread Camille Teruel
On 11 juin 2014, at 15:31, François Stephany tulipe.mouta...@gmail.com wrote: What is bloc ? I've searched in the pharo-dev list but couldn't find it :/ A Morphic clean/revamp lead by Alain and Stef. On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 2:26 PM, stepharo steph...@free.fr wrote: looks so exciting...

Re: [Pharo-dev] ZeroConf scripts download progress

2014-06-11 Thread Max Leske
On 11.06.2014, at 16:28, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com wrote: unless you are suggesting that he can do something like curl get.pharo.org myScript.sh bash myScript.sh -v that can work Ok, you win :) There doesn’t seem to be an easy way to do this appart from what you’ve done

Re: [Pharo-dev] Compressing changes

2014-06-11 Thread Marcus Denker
On 11 Jun 2014, at 16:13, Esteban A. Maringolo emaring...@gmail.com wrote: After installing a Metacelllo config referencing some other projects (Seaside, Glorp, Neo*, etc.) the base Changes file went from a few Kb to ~40Mb. Can this changes file be condensed somehow? Yes:

[Pharo-dev] RMoD interview #4

2014-06-11 Thread Nicolas Petton
Hi! I just published another interview of my dear colleagues at RMoD. This time Jean-Baptiste Arnaud was kind enough to play the game! http://nicolas-petton.fr/blog/interview-jean-baptiste.html Cheers, Nico -- Nicolas Petton http://nicolas-petton.fr

Re: [Pharo-dev] ZeroConf scripts download progress

2014-06-11 Thread Esteban A. Maringolo
2014-06-11 11:54 GMT-03:00 Max Leske maxle...@gmail.com: @(other)Esteban How important is this to you? It is not mandatory. I just like to run things verbosely. Feedback is paramount :) You can always pipe the script through a ‘sed’ filter and remove the ‘--silent’ option. Yep, I can also

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core] b2b178: 30849

2014-06-11 Thread GitHub
Branch: refs/heads/3.0 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core Commit: b2b178cceb0ab8395de37443a3e62c64bcb2b834 https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core/commit/b2b178cceb0ab8395de37443a3e62c64bcb2b834 Author: Jenkins Build Server bo...@pharo-project.org Date:

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core]

2014-06-11 Thread GitHub
Branch: refs/tags/30849 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core]

2014-06-11 Thread GitHub
Branch: refs/tags/40020 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core] 6c914f: 40020

2014-06-11 Thread GitHub
Branch: refs/heads/4.0 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core Commit: 6c914f638391653ff9e1b8c59717c05e70e33c32 https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core/commit/6c914f638391653ff9e1b8c59717c05e70e33c32 Author: Jenkins Build Server bo...@pharo-project.org Date:

Re: [Pharo-dev] Compressing changes

2014-06-11 Thread Esteban A. Maringolo
I ran ./pharo release.image eval --save PharoChangesCondenser condense And after a while (a lot) it actually grew the size of the file from 42 M to 74MB! 74M Jun 11 12:45 release.changes (v2) 42M Jun 11 12:35 release.changes.bak (v1) 33M Jun 11 12:45 release.image So I thought it could need to

Re: [Pharo-dev] Compressing changes

2014-06-11 Thread Marcus Denker
On 11 Jun 2014, at 18:44, Esteban A. Maringolo emaring...@gmail.com wrote: I ran ./pharo release.image eval --save PharoChangesCondenser condense And after a while (a lot) it actually grew the size of the file from 42 M to 74MB! 74M Jun 11 12:45 release.changes (v2) 42M Jun 11 12:35

Re: [Pharo-dev] news from block :)

2014-06-11 Thread François Stephany
\o/ On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 4:23 PM, Camille Teruel camille.ter...@gmail.com wrote: On 11 juin 2014, at 15:31, François Stephany tulipe.mouta...@gmail.com wrote: What is bloc ? I've searched in the pharo-dev list but couldn't find it :/ A Morphic clean/revamp lead by Alain and Stef.

Re: [Pharo-dev] news from block :)

2014-06-11 Thread kilon alios
excellent news. I really believe in Morphic and I really like its general design. If you we can clean the mud I am sure we will discover quite a diamond underneath. Thanks. On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 10:25 PM, François Stephany tulipe.mouta...@gmail.com wrote: \o/ On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 4:23

Re: [Pharo-dev] news from block :)

2014-06-11 Thread Tudor Girba
Thank you, indeed! Doru On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 9:39 PM, kilon alios kilon.al...@gmail.com wrote: excellent news. I really believe in Morphic and I really like its general design. If you we can clean the mud I am sure we will discover quite a diamond underneath. Thanks. On Wed, Jun 11,

Re: [Pharo-dev] news from block :)

2014-06-11 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
On 11 Jun 2014, at 16:39, kilon alios kilon.al...@gmail.com wrote: excellent news. I really believe in Morphic and I really like its general design. If you we can clean the mud I am sure we will discover quite a diamond underneath. Thanks. which general design? the pattern in which is

Re: [Pharo-dev] news from block :)

2014-06-11 Thread Tudor Girba
I would be interested in trying to play with Block. Is it available? Cheers, Doru On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 9:55 PM, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com wrote: On 11 Jun 2014, at 16:39, kilon alios kilon.al...@gmail.com wrote: excellent news. I really believe in Morphic and I really like

Re: [Pharo-dev] news from block :)

2014-06-11 Thread kilon alios
Yes personally I really like the overall design of a morph embedding nice and easily inside another morph and everything made up of morphs. I like the idea of hand , world , etc. I try to like Spec, but it looks to me quite confusing, I tried to follow the tutorial but I cant understand its

[Pharo-dev] PharoVM with latests changes

2014-06-11 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
Hi, So… last days I’ve been working in new versions of the PharoVM based in latest Eliot sources. New vm’s can be found at: http://files.pharo.org/vm/pharo/ http://files.pharo.org/vm/pharoS/ under “latest.zip” and you can also take it from zeroconf using “vmLatest” and here is an

Re: [Pharo-dev] news from block :)

2014-06-11 Thread Esteban A. Maringolo
2014-06-11 16:55 GMT-03:00 Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com: On 11 Jun 2014, at 16:39, kilon alios kilon.al...@gmail.com wrote: excellent news. I really believe in Morphic and I really like its general design. If you we can clean the mud I am sure we will discover quite a diamond

Re: [Pharo-dev] news from block :)

2014-06-11 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
On 11 Jun 2014, at 17:15, kilon alios kilon.al...@gmail.com wrote: Yes personally I really like the overall design of a morph embedding nice and easily inside another morph and everything made up of morphs. I like the idea of hand , world , etc. I try to like Spec, but it looks to me

Re: [Pharo-dev] PharoVM with latests changes

2014-06-11 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
Great work Esteban, this is really important work. Thanks a lot ! On 11 Jun 2014, at 22:16, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, So… last days I’ve been working in new versions of the PharoVM based in latest Eliot sources. New vm’s can be found at:

Re: [Pharo-dev] PharoVM with latests changes

2014-06-11 Thread Esteban A. Maringolo
Thank you! I'm downloading it right now. Esteban A. Maringolo 2014-06-11 17:16 GMT-03:00 Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com: Hi, So… last days I’ve been working in new versions of the PharoVM based in latest Eliot sources. New vm’s can be found at: http://files.pharo.org/vm/pharo/

Re: [Pharo-dev] news from block :)

2014-06-11 Thread kilon alios
well if you keep the overall design of morphic or even improve it. I have no complain and you have my full support. I thought that you wanted to remove Morphic and make Spec the standard design for Pharo. I know what neither Athens or Roassal is a replacement for Morphic. I remember once I took a

Re: [Pharo-dev] PharoVM with latests changes

2014-06-11 Thread Tudor Girba
Thanks. I started to use it on Mac. Doru On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 10:16 PM, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, So… last days I’ve been working in new versions of the PharoVM based in latest Eliot sources. New vm’s can be found at: http://files.pharo.org/vm/pharo/

Re: [Pharo-dev] news from block :)

2014-06-11 Thread Alain Plantec
Hi Doru, all Bloc (and not Block). It is stored in Smaltalkhub. MCHttpRepository location: 'http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/AlainPlantec/Bloc/main' user: '' password: '' You can use the world menu to create and switch to a Bloc world and come back to a Morphic one. The idea

Re: [Pharo-dev] PharoVM with latests changes

2014-06-11 Thread Stephan Eggermont
Nice work, Esteban. I can no longer reproduce 11130 :) Stephan

Re: [Pharo-dev] news from block :)

2014-06-11 Thread David T. Lewis
On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 11:15:37PM +0300, kilon alios wrote: But for me Morphic is the most beautiful Graphics API I have ever worked with. It's nice to see someone say something positive in appreciation of Morphic. It is quite a remarkable environment if you stop and think about it :-) Dave