Re: [Pharo-dev] can or: be redefined?

2015-04-30 Thread Ben Coman
On Fri, May 1, 2015 at 4:31 AM, Clément Bera bera.clem...@gmail.com wrote: You cannot easily redefine these selectors: #(#caseOf: #to:do: #ifNotNil: #ifNil:ifNotNil: #whileTrue: #ifNotNil:ifNil: #ifFalse: #timesRepeat: #whileTrue #caseOf:otherwise: #whileFalse: #ifNil: #to:by:do: #ifTrue:

Re: [Pharo-dev] Rectangle Center

2015-04-29 Thread Ben Coman
On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 4:53 AM, Sergio Fedi sergio.f...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 5:42 PM, Yuriy Tymchuk yuriy.tymc...@me.com wrote: Ok, can we start form the test? Is it ok, that the test passes for rectangle with 10 @ 20 extent and fails for 15 @ 20 extent? I would

Re: [Pharo-dev] Class Comment Template Suggestion

2015-04-29 Thread Ben Coman
+1 -- I always liked the first person feel I got from Smalltalk class comments. You might add something like comments should be written in first person from the perspective of the class -0.5 -- Maybe the third person CRC style is better for external documentation (?) cheers -ben On Wed, Apr

Re: [Pharo-dev] Rectangle Center

2015-04-29 Thread Ben Coman
On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 9:18 PM, Sean P. DeNigris s...@clipperadams.com wrote: Natalia Tymchuk wrote Should it really be like that? The problem is that you can't have half-a-pixel if a dimension is odd Will it be more applicable with the move to vector basis of Athens? cheers -ben

Re: [Pharo-dev] Rectangle Center

2015-04-29 Thread Ben Coman
On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 10:12 PM, Peter Uhnák i.uh...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 3:51 PM, Yuriy Tymchuk yuriy.tymc...@me.com wrote: On 29 Apr 2015, at 15:18, Sean P. DeNigris s...@clipperadams.com wrote: Natalia Tymchuk wrote Should it really be like that? The problem

Re: [Pharo-dev] Breakpoint of variable write

2015-05-01 Thread Ben Coman
On Fri, May 1, 2015 at 6:41 PM, Yuriy Tymchuk yuriy.tymc...@me.com wrote: Hi, is it possible to do a halt whenever some instance variable is written? Because this week I’ve spent a lot of time debugging because something was setting some strange values to variables and it was hard to track

[Pharo-dev] Cypress - cross platform Pharo Visualworks

2015-04-30 Thread Ben Coman
Is anyone using cross-platform Pharo / VisualWorks development with Cypress? https://github.com/CampSmalltalk/Cypress cheers -ben

Re: [Pharo-dev] Case 15309 - Adding message for test result

2015-05-04 Thread Ben Coman
On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 7:46 AM, Sergio Fedi sergio.f...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I'm planning to solve Case 15309: https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/15309/adding-message-for-test-result Personally, I'm not sure what is needed, and I would prefer to do this change at the request of an actual

Re: [Pharo-dev] Debugger hangs vm on step into

2015-05-05 Thread Ben Coman
On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 7:06 PM, Alain Rastoul alf.mmm@gmail.com wrote: Le 05/05/2015 12:35, Ben Coman a écrit : I tried... * my usual locked image avoidance hack when playing at this level to comment out calls to #interCyclePause: * changing to DelayMillisecondScheduler

Re: [Pharo-dev] Debugger hangs vm on step into

2015-05-05 Thread Ben Coman
Not sure if this is related, but if you put a haltOnce at the top of SpecDebuggerupdateReceiverInspectorFromContext: then step down until the 'receiver' temporary variable is set, then inspect 'receiver', the system hangs. cheers -ben On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 8:08 PM, Ben Coman b...@openinworld.com

Re: [Pharo-dev] could the log message be placed on top of the files in the commit?

2015-05-03 Thread Ben Coman
I tried with this, but didn't know how to push it further... https://github.com/github/github-services/compare/master...bencoman:master cheers -ben On Sun, May 3, 2015 at 4:15 AM, stepharo steph...@free.fr wrote: Hi could we put the log of the commit on top before the touched files? Stef

Re: [Pharo-dev] could the log message be placed on top of the files in the commit?

2015-05-03 Thread Ben Coman
On Sun, May 3, 2015 at 4:15 AM, stepharo steph...@free.fr wrote: Hi could we put the log of the commit on top before the touched files? Stef On Sun, May 3, 2015 at 10:46 PM, Ben Coman b...@openinworld.com wrote: I tried with this, but didn't know how to push it further... https

[Pharo-dev] GTSpotter code view class comment

2015-05-06 Thread Ben Coman
Just a passing thought and request. When the code view is open in Spotter and a class is selected, could the class comment be shown as well its definition. Maybe also show the class-side definition(?). Maybe also show the hierarchy tree as a bread-crumb .e.g. A B C (???) cheers -ben

Re: [Pharo-dev] GTSpotter code view class comment

2015-05-06 Thread Ben Coman
://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?15497 On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 2:40 PM, Ben Coman b...@openinworld.com wrote: Just a passing thought and request. When the code view is open in Spotter and a class is selected, could the class comment be shown as well its definition. Maybe also show the class

Re: [Pharo-dev] Penelope Doesn't Skip Wrong Lint Rules

2015-05-07 Thread Ben Coman
- Sean P. DeNigris s...@clipperadams.com a écrit : I marked them wrong in the Critic Browser, which now skips them, but the validation report still shows them as Warnings. Anyone know why? I see the versions in the inbox references by the slice have their manifest classes... On Fri, May 8,

Re: [Pharo-dev] Transcript needs your love

2015-05-08 Thread Ben Coman
On Sat, May 9, 2015 at 12:21 AM, Alain Rastoul alf.mmm@gmail.com wrote: Le 08/05/2015 16:16, Eliot Miranda a écrit : Hi, if one uses a at doit transcript then no special action is required to get output to appear beyond sending flush to Transcript right? So any solution that

Re: [Pharo-dev] GanttChartMorph openOn: aCollectionOfActivities ?

2015-05-08 Thread Ben Coman
oh oh!!! A good gantt chat would be fabulous. Could elements be made draggable in a constrained way? That could encourage me to start a project scheduling application. cheers -ben On Sat, May 9, 2015 at 2:09 AM, Alexandre Bergel alexandre.ber...@me.com wrote: Hi Hannes, We are currently

Re: [Pharo-dev] Transcript needs your love

2015-05-08 Thread Ben Coman
On Sat, May 9, 2015 at 1:22 AM, Eliot Miranda eliot.mira...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 9:21 AM, Alain Rastoul alf.mmm@gmail.com wrote The first thing I did when I tried Stef's example in Squeak was trying to move the window (it was a bit overlapped by my workspace) but I

Re: [Pharo-dev] Transcript needs your love

2015-05-10 Thread Ben Coman
not that output is interleaved with a specific policy. Hi Eliot, I guess it was hard to analyse that output dump from your phone, and I should have been more explicit. The problem is not the interleave order, but duplicate and missing output items. I've cut down the example and and manually

Re: [Pharo-dev] Testers needed! Re: Athens BitBlt bug?

2015-05-09 Thread Ben Coman
On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 6:43 AM, Nicolai Hess nicolaih...@web.de wrote: Some testers needed! I can not reproduce the BitBlt bug and I would like to get this right, so that surface pattern paints use the correct form dimension. Prefered test setup: a (fresh) pharo image load bleeding edge

Re: [Pharo-dev] Transcript needs your love

2015-05-09 Thread Ben Coman
On Sat, May 9, 2015 at 10:35 PM, Eliot Miranda eliot.mira...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, May 9, 2015 at 7:09 AM, Ben Coman b...@openinworld.com wrote: From my limited experience bug hunting, calling #changed: from a thread other than the UI thread is a source of evil. There are too many

Re: [Pharo-dev] Transcript needs your love

2015-05-09 Thread Ben Coman
On Sat, May 9, 2015 at 10:35 PM, Eliot Miranda eliot.mira...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, May 9, 2015 at 7:09 AM, Ben Coman b...@openinworld.com wrote: From my limited experience bug hunting, calling #changed: from a thread other than the UI thread is a source of evil. 3. Thinking further

Re: [Pharo-dev] Transcript needs your love

2015-05-09 Thread Ben Coman
From my limited experience bug hunting, calling #changed: from a thread other than the UI thread is a source of evil. There are too many assumptions throughout the system that the UI is single threaded. Can anyone advise me that is not a proper belief? Then that implies that a Transcript

Re: [Pharo-dev] Transcript needs your love

2015-05-09 Thread Ben Coman
On Sat, May 9, 2015 at 11:00 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote: On 09 May 2015, at 16:41, Ben Coman b...@openinworld.com wrote: On Sat, May 9, 2015 at 10:09 PM, Ben Coman b...@openinworld.com wrote: From my limited experience bug hunting, calling #changed: from a thread

Re: [Pharo-dev] Transcript needs your love

2015-05-09 Thread Ben Coman
On Sat, May 9, 2015 at 12:05 AM, Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com wrote: Either you run doits in separate process (as Sven demonstrated), or you run it in UI process, blocking the rest of UI. Stef, you complaining about not being able to see output of code that blocks a process from doing

Re: [Pharo-dev] Debugger hangs vm on step into

2015-05-07 Thread Ben Coman
On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 9:09 PM, Alain Rastoul alf.mmm@gmail.com wrote: Le 05/05/2015 14:35, Ben Coman a écrit : Not sure if this is related, but if you put a haltOnce at the top of SpecDebuggerupdateReceiverInspectorFromContext: then step down until the 'receiver' temporary variable

Re: [Pharo-dev] Debugger hangs vm on step into

2015-05-05 Thread Ben Coman
I tried... * my usual locked image avoidance hack when playing at this level to comment out calls to #interCyclePause: * changing to DelayMillisecondScheduler and DelaySemaphoreSchedulers ...but no luck. How do mean that DebugSession someInstance stepInto does not hang? How do you get to that

Re: [Pharo-dev] Windows version of 0-config scripts?

2015-05-08 Thread Ben Coman
On Sat, May 9, 2015 at 2:38 AM, Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com wrote: On 8 May 2015 at 19:40, Ben Coman b...@openinworld.com wrote: On Sat, May 9, 2015 at 1:06 AM, Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com wrote: remind me please, is it broken, or never worked? trying: wget -O

Re: [Pharo-dev] Transcript needs your love

2015-05-13 Thread Ben Coman
On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 6:32 AM, Alain Rastoul alf.mmm@gmail.com wrote: Le 12/05/2015 19:02, Alain Rastoul a écrit : Le 08/05/2015 11:34, stepharo a écrit : Hi guys the Transcript in Pharo is that it's not asynchronous so I can't use it in VM development to show the current progress

[Pharo-dev] OLEDB versus ODBC

2015-05-15 Thread Ben Coman
I hust bumped into some old news (2011) I hadn't heard before that I thought might be of interest to those working on database drivers for Pharo, to perhaps not spend any time on OLEDB. Microsoft announced it will focus on supporting the Open Database Connectivity (ODBC) approach for SQL Server

Re: [Pharo-dev] Transcript needs your love

2015-05-14 Thread Ben Coman
Le 14/5/15 15:12, Alain Rastoul a écrit : Le 14/05/2015 02:08, J. Vuletich (mail lists) a écrit : A port of the code to Pharo is required, as Alain and Stef have shown. Besides, Cuis doesn't include support for Traits. I think your idea is very good, and I hope some Pharoer (Alain?) does

Re: [Pharo-dev] FogBuz - Parent Cases

2015-05-17 Thread Ben Coman
Two main behaviours of interest: * The CI monkey will not test a slice on a case that has an open sub-case. * Parent cases can only be closed when all sub-cases are closed. So parent cases are useful: * When its required that a fix needs to be staged into several steps. The last step is the

Re: [Pharo-dev] Transcript needs your love

2015-05-13 Thread Ben Coman
On Sun, May 10, 2015 at 12:35 AM, Eliot Miranda eliot.mira...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Ben, On Sat, May 9, 2015 at 8:18 AM, Ben Coman b...@openinworld.com wrote: On Sat, May 9, 2015 at 10:35 PM, Eliot Miranda eliot.mira...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, May 9, 2015 at 7:09 AM, Ben Coman b

Re: [Pharo-dev] Code generation for ASTs with syntax errors

2015-05-18 Thread Ben Coman
On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 4:41 PM, Damien Pollet damien.pol...@gmail.com wrote: On 13 May 2015 at 08:35, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: Only three methods are needed to allow generating executable methods from such an AST: the SyntaxErrorNotification is raised at runtime instead

Re: [Pharo-dev] Manifest class values - instance or class side

2015-05-19 Thread Ben Coman
On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 10:02 AM, Sergio Fedi sergio.f...@gmail.com wrote: I want to add a test to ensure #packageManifest answers a Class. Since RPackage is in RPackageCore, but the #packageManifest method is in Manifest-Core I'm not sure whether: 1. I have to make the test in

Re: [Pharo-dev] Package comments

2015-05-12 Thread Ben Coman
Try to have it so users don't have to delete much, just extend what is there. On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 2:10 AM, Kasper Osterbye kas...@itu.dk wrote: Sergio Fedi and I are now working on this. As part of the work, we need a default package comment, akin the the default class comment. The class

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo Screencast By a Ruby Guy

2015-05-14 Thread Ben Coman
On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 5:56 PM, Yuriy Tymchuk yuriy.tymc...@me.com wrote: On 12 May 2015, at 11:44, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote: On 11 May 2015, at 23:49, Sean P. DeNigris s...@clipperadams.com wrote:

[Pharo-dev] live coding conference

2015-04-16 Thread Ben Coman
Given that we promote ourselves as a Live Coding environment, anyone near Denmark want to check out if this aligns with our interests... Call for position papers and performances as part of Critical Alternatives, 5th Decennial Aarhus Conference, 18 August 2015, Aarhus University, Denmark.

[Pharo-dev] pharo home page tagline

2015-04-16 Thread Ben Coman
On reddit I see some questions regarding the IDE and OS rolled into one tagline on the pharo homepage. Of course it makes sense to me, but I can see how it might not be clear to others, who might even think I don't need that, I already have an OS. I think the tagline would be strong enough

Re: [Pharo-dev] pharo home page tagline

2015-04-16 Thread Ben Coman
Actually, another less-is-more improvement would be to change Pharo The immersive programming experience to just Pharo immersive programming (btw with the exclusion of capital letters from the tagline) cheers -ben On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 11:58 AM, Ben Coman b...@openinworld.com wrote: On reddit

Re: [Pharo-dev] why we removed debugTest from nautilus?

2015-04-11 Thread Ben Coman
I miss it. I think I remember that a Restart Close would work, so a hack fix could be the do a restart when the close button is pushed. Reintroducing it with the problem fixed would be welcome. cheers -ben On Sat, Apr 11, 2015 at 4:10 PM, Nicolai Hess nicolaih...@web.de wrote: 2015-04-10

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Vm-dev] NativeBoost / Callbacks and Multithreading (Eliot: This is not just NB, we need you here :P)

2015-04-18 Thread Ben Coman
On 18/04/2015 3:36 pm, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com wrote: So… “multithread” is a complicated issue. Pharo as most Smalltalks is designed thinking is as monolithic so if you are trying to make the image to work in different processes… it will not be easy at all :) The holy grail of

Re: [Pharo-dev] Launcher Mac CI - Broken Executable

2015-04-17 Thread Ben Coman
This is where calling PharoLauncher Pharo is confusing. There is Pharo 0.2.4 and also Pharo 4.0. What is a newcomer to think? Cheers -ben On 17/04/2015 11:58 pm, Damien Cassou damien.cas...@inria.fr wrote: - Mail original - De: Sean P. DeNigris s...@clipperadams.com À:

Re: [Pharo-dev] 14606 Really Important bug - Can't see some variables values while debugging closure

2015-04-06 Thread Ben Coman
anyway. cheers -ben On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 4:10 AM, Nicolas Cellier nicolas.cellier.aka.n...@gmail.com wrote: 2015-04-05 17:38 GMT+02:00 Ben Coman b...@openinworld.com: On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 8:59 PM, stepharo steph...@free.fr wrote: Thanks both of you for the energy you put into Pharo

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo 4 Beta, first impressions

2015-04-03 Thread Ben Coman
On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 1:26 AM, Sean P. DeNigris s...@clipperadams.com wrote: IMHO, underneath the windows theme argument is the question of the GUI look and feel instability Pharo suffers from one release to another one, this ruin a bit the idea of people willing to design desktop

Re: [Pharo-dev] Spotter

2015-04-04 Thread Ben Coman
for people presented with Spotter for the first time, particularly since first use already prompts users to go to settings to send usage data. cheers -ben On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 8:25 AM, Aliaksei Syrel alex.sy...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Ben, It's CMD+Shift+Right On Apr 5, 2015 2:23 AM, Ben Coman b

[Pharo-dev] Spotter

2015-04-04 Thread Ben Coman
Just a note, I went back to an old image and really miss the Spotter workflow. One thing, can you remind me how when it shows 5/30 implementors I get a list of all 30? I'm sure I've done this before but can't remember. Perhaps this means its not obvious and maybe should appear in a How To Use

Re: [Pharo-dev] Spotter

2015-04-04 Thread Ben Coman
on the settings page could link to that page? cheers -ben On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 2:35 AM, Ben Coman b...@openinworld.com wrote: Thanks Aliaksei. This is quite a hidden and implicit key stroke. Regardless that I know I've used it before follow a tutorial, I forgot it. Since Spotter has

Re: [Pharo-dev] 14606 Really Important bug - Can't see some variables values while debugging closure

2015-04-04 Thread Ben Coman
wrote: 2015-04-01 18:56 GMT+02:00 Ben Coman b...@openinworld.com: Issue 14606 [1] is tagged Really Important where evaluating | t1 t2 t3 t4 t5 t6 | t1 := 1. t2 := 2. t3 := 3. t4 := 4. t5 := 5 . t6 := 6. [t5 := 50. t6 := 60. t3

Re: [Pharo-dev] 14606 Really Important bug - Can't see some variables values while debugging closure

2015-04-04 Thread Ben Coman
On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 1:23 PM, Ben Coman b...@openinworld.com wrote: I got annoyed since a few times I thought I'd solved everything just the issue looking at the manual examples of one issue, only to find I'd caused the other case to fail. Also keeping track of all cases as I threw away

Re: [Pharo-dev] Xtreams Now in MetaRepoForPharo40

2015-04-05 Thread Ben Coman
Thanks Sean. On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 10:07 PM, Sean P. DeNigris s...@clipperadams.com wrote: Sean P. DeNigris wrote It was a bit ugly... I asked a question on the MetaC list about cleaning it up. Okay, Dale explained how to do it properly (

Re: [Pharo-dev] 14606 Really Important bug - Can't see some variables values while debugging closure

2015-04-05 Thread Ben Coman
On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 8:59 PM, stepharo steph...@free.fr wrote: Thanks both of you for the energy you put into Pharo. The tam really appreciates. This is because there are guys like you that Pharo is worth being done. Thanks for the tests. Esteban has apparently found the bug on the VM.

Re: [Pharo-dev] Spotter

2015-04-05 Thread Ben Coman
On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 11:37 PM, stepharo steph...@free.fr wrote: aliaksei what would be nice is that each time we click on a button or press a command key you emit a growl notification with the description. Stef For just a moment there, I thought you wanted Spotter to start making

Re: [Pharo-dev] New Pharo-Launcher package for Mac and Windows

2015-04-01 Thread Ben Coman
On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 12:34 AM, Damien Cassou damien.cas...@gmail.com wrote: Cyril Ferlicot cyril.ferli...@gmail.com writes: On 31 March 2015 at 17:22, Damien Cassou damien.cas...@gmail.com wrote: Ben Coman b...@openinworld.com writes: Regarding Windows... Last that I looked

[Pharo-dev] 14606 Really Important bug - Can't see some variables values while debugging closure

2015-04-01 Thread Ben Coman
Issue 14606 [1] is tagged Really Important where evaluating | t1 t2 t3 t4 t5 t6 | t1 := 1. t2 := 2. t3 := 3. t4 := 4. t5 := 5 . t6 := 6. [t5 := 50. t6 := 60. t3 + t4. 1 halt. ] value = can't see the value of t4, t5, t6. I've

Re: [Pharo-dev] Manifest class values - instance or class side

2015-05-19 Thread Ben Coman
On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 8:25 PM, Sergio Fedi sergio.f...@gmail.com wrote: Supposing we do that, that we put these tests in RPackageTests, What tests de we put in Manifest-Tests? Sorry, I don't have the answer for that :) cheers -ben

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo 4.0 - display

2015-04-19 Thread Ben Coman
I've had this happen to me before on Windows with i think Pharo 3 - so I've not seen it for a long time. I feel it's dependent on the graphics chipset. Cheers -ben Hi, I've had a play with Pharo 4.0 on a OSX and it looks great. There is one thing I've noticed, whenever I open a new window such as

Re: [Pharo-dev] running the tests on my machine gives a full frozen stops and Critical failure: the LastResort font is unavailable.

2015-06-04 Thread Ben Coman
which build? On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 3:48 AM, stepharo steph...@free.fr wrote: 015-06-04 21:47:19.836 Pharo[12527:507] Critical failure: the LastResort font is unavailable.

Re: [Pharo-dev] I need reviewer of https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?15646

2015-06-05 Thread Ben Coman
. Marcus On 02 Jun 2015, at 22:37, stepharo steph...@free.fr wrote: I hate so much this bug Le 1/6/15 15:04, Ben Coman a écrit : Stef, I can now see all the dependent packages for the new slice, but I still have a strange error. However I'm not sure if its a bug or something

Re: [Pharo-dev] Refactoring File Package

2015-06-06 Thread Ben Coman
On Sat, Jun 6, 2015 at 5:26 PM, Guillermo Polito guillermopol...@gmail.com wrote: Actually we just want to have a kind of split in: - essential - non-essential I guess you have scripts outside the image to shrink the image and then bootstrap it. However these are not necessarily visible to

[Pharo-dev] Pharo Bootstrap (Was Re: Refactoring File Package)

2015-06-08 Thread Ben Coman
. m., Ben Coman b...@openinworld.com escribió: On Sat, Jun 6, 2015 at 5:26 PM, Guillermo Polito guillermopol...@gmail.com wrote: Actually we just want to have a kind of split in: - essential - non-essential I guess you have scripts outside the image to shrink the image

Re: [Pharo-dev] block syntax experiments

2015-06-03 Thread Ben Coman
On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 4:14 PM, Francisco Garau francisco.ga...@gmail.com wrote: On 3 June 2015 at 05:56, Ben Coman b...@openinworld.com wrote: I think that would confuse me, and maybe break syntax highlighting. It *looks* like a message send to nothing. That might be a good thing

Re: [Pharo-dev] how can we use Spotter to find reference to a class without scrolling down?

2015-06-02 Thread Ben Coman
I guess he means...Analyse Class refs and maybe wanting a syntax like...MyClass #ref cheers -ben On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 4:12 AM, Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com wrote: Hi, If you know the name of the spotter category, you can use the #category, like here:

Re: [Pharo-dev] New Tool: Catalog Browser in Pharo 5.0

2015-06-11 Thread Ben Coman
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 2:55 PM, Torsten Bergmann asta...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, maybe you already noticed. The latest update for Pharo 5 which is 50103 (see [1]). includes a new tool called Catalog Browser. Where to go === You will find it under Tools - Catalog Browser and it will

Re: [Pharo-dev] Detecting the context/producer of code change announcements

2015-06-11 Thread Ben Coman
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 2:29 AM, Max Leske maxle...@gmail.com wrote: On 10 Jun 2015, at 17:13, Martin Dias tinchod...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everybody, I'm writing you to discuss about a new feature for Pharo. I would like to know your opinions and ideas. Thanks in advance. My point is that

Re: [Pharo-dev] New Tool: Catalog Browser in Pharo 5.0

2015-06-11 Thread Ben Coman
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 11:11 PM, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com wrote: On 11 Jun 2015, at 16:42, Ben Coman b...@openinworld.com wrote: On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 2:55 PM, Torsten Bergmann asta...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, maybe you already noticed. The latest update for Pharo 5 which is 50103

Re: [Pharo-dev] Detecting the context/producer of code change announcements

2015-06-10 Thread Ben Coman
On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 11:13 PM, Martin Dias tinchod...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everybody, I'm writing you to discuss about a new feature for Pharo. I would like to know your opinions and ideas. Thanks in advance. My point is that there are operations like MC version load, change set file in,

Re: [Pharo-dev] Question about API / Backend

2015-06-16 Thread Ben Coman
On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 6:15 PM, Henrik Johansen henrik.s.johan...@veloxit.no wrote: On 16 Jun 2015, at 9:58 , Matthieu Lacaton matthieu.laca...@gmail.com wrote: Hello everybody, The question I have concerns OSWindow and its backend : SDL. However, even if I'll speak about these two, i

Re: [Pharo-dev] Debugging and optimizations

2015-06-14 Thread Ben Coman
On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 2:34 AM, Thierry Goubier thierry.goub...@gmail.com wrote: Le 14/06/2015 18:39, Holger Freyther a écrit : On 13 Jun 2015, at 14:39, Clément Bera bera.clem...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Clement, This is an interesting problem. There is currently no simple way of

Re: [Pharo-dev] EnableHaltOnce shortcut

2015-06-12 Thread Ben Coman
On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 9:40 PM, Franck Warlouzet franck.warlou...@hotmail.fr wrote: Hello, I really would like to have a shortcut to Halt enableHaltOnce. What could be a good combinaison ? I thought about cmd e, h (for Enable Halt) but I do not know if it is already taken. What do you

Re: [Pharo-dev] Debugging and optimizations

2015-06-12 Thread Ben Coman
On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 5:49 AM, Torsten Bergmann asta...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, for tracing and logging one could easily write: foo ... Log enabled ifTrue: [ do some tracing here ]. ... but this always requires some message sends/checks if the debug mode is active. This is OK while

Re: [Pharo-dev] New Tool: Catalog Browser in Pharo 5.0

2015-06-13 Thread Ben Coman
On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 5:47 AM, Sean P. DeNigris s...@clipperadams.com wrote: EstebanLM wrote In any case this is Pharo 5 super-alpha… so there is no need to keep things going until we replace them :) IMHO it's not too much to ask to keep the old tool *at least* until the release when we've

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo 4, format on accept/display

2015-06-10 Thread Ben Coman
By publish a slice do you also mean to ask it to be integrated into Pharo4? The general issue is that every new fix for the released Pharo40 has the *chance* of introducing some other problem, or adversely affecting someone else's idea of how the system should operate. Even with minimal quaility

Re: [Pharo-dev] Debugging and optimizations

2015-06-15 Thread Ben Coman
such as #once or #Cvalue. 2015-06-15 7:13 GMT+02:00 Thierry Goubier thierry.goub...@gmail.com: Hi Ben, Le 15/06/2015 01:09, Ben Coman a écrit : On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 2:34 AM, Thierry Goubier thierry.goub...@gmail.com wrote: Le 14/06/2015 18:39, Holger Freyther a écrit : On 13 Jun

Re: [Pharo-dev] Debugging and optimizations

2015-06-15 Thread Ben Coman
such as #once or #Cvalue. 2015-06-15 7:13 GMT+02:00 Thierry Goubier thierry.goub...@gmail.com: Hi Ben, Le 15/06/2015 01:09, Ben Coman a écrit : On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 2:34 AM, Thierry Goubier thierry.goub...@gmail.com wrote: Le 14/06/2015 18:39, Holger Freyther a écrit : On 13 Jun

Re: [Pharo-dev] block syntax experiments

2015-06-02 Thread Ben Coman
I think that would confuse me, and maybe break syntax highlighting. It *looks* like a message send to nothing. How about something that gives more feeling of inserting... add -- 3 , 4. add 3 , 4. add : 3 : 4. add @:3 @:4. cheers -ben On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 8:17 AM, Francisco Garau

Re: [Pharo-dev] I need a windows user and a linux user to test

2015-05-28 Thread Ben Coman
On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 2:30 AM, Guillermo Polito guillermopol...@gmail.com wrote: Always Ctrl. That's how usual application shortcuts work on windows and unix. Ctrl. +1 El jue., 28 de may. de 2015 a la(s) 8:28 p. m., Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com escribió: ok… but we are using

Re: [Pharo-dev] I need a windows user and a linux user to test

2015-05-28 Thread Ben Coman
(whoops accidentally sent that last post) and since we are there: What happens with linux? Esteban Linux is the same as Windows. On 28 May 2015, at 20:25, Franck Warlouzet franck.warlou...@hotmail.fr wrote: To copy/paste it is ctrl, but to quit a window it is alt F4, to switch between

Re: [Pharo-dev] Metacello and #stable

2015-05-28 Thread Ben Coman
On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 6:14 AM, Dale Henrichs dale.henri...@gemtalksystems.com wrote: Andrei, 1) The old configuration load api is non-deterministic, especially when used with large configurations, Metacello will not downgrade a package, so if (using the old api) Metacello decides that a

Re: [Pharo-dev] I need reviewer of https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?15646

2015-05-31 Thread Ben Coman
I tried, but it seems some packages are missing from the inbox. cheers -ben On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 2:19 PM, stepharo steph...@free.fr wrote: Hi I continued to clean that classes have categories and method protocols because it was not finished. This entry is just adding protocol in the

Re: [Pharo-dev] I need reviewer of https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?15646

2015-06-01 Thread Ben Coman
, 2015 at 10:36 AM, Ben Coman b...@openinworld.com wrote: I tried, but it seems some packages are missing from the inbox. cheers -ben On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 2:19 PM, stepharo steph...@free.fr wrote: Hi I continued to clean that classes have categories and method protocols because

Re: [Pharo-dev] shortcut change in pharo 50075

2015-06-01 Thread Ben Coman
On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 6:35 PM, Sean P. DeNigris s...@clipperadams.com wrote: Nicolai Hess wrote I hope we change that in PharoShortcuts, we should use one Meta/Command key name, that is mapped to Ctrl for win/linux and Cmd fo mac After re-reading the key descriptions on Wikipedia:

Re: [Pharo-dev] translateBy: vs translatedBy:

2015-05-27 Thread Ben Coman
as they are arise. cheers -ben [1] http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Abbreviations_in_Webster [2] http://www.mso.anu.edu.au/~ralph/OPTED/v003/wb1913_m.html [3] http://www.mso.anu.edu.au/~ralph/OPTED/ On 27 May 2015 at 01:14, Ben Coman b...@openinworld.com wrote: On Tue, May 26, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] System Morphs in OSWindows

2015-05-29 Thread Ben Coman
Disclaimer: I don't really know the Morph Bloc architectures. Just a few comments from a user perspective. On Sat, May 30, 2015 at 2:42 AM, Matthieu Lacaton matthieu.laca...@gmail.com wrote: Hello everybody, Lately I've tried to use OSWindow to display some system morphs in external windows.

Re: [Pharo-dev] System Morphs in OSWindows

2015-05-30 Thread Ben Coman
application displayed inside for your embedded LCD screen. I don't know about hardware limitations though. 2015-05-30 17:33 GMT+02:00 Ben Coman b...@openinworld.com: On Sat, May 30, 2015 at 4:16 PM, Matthieu Lacaton matthieu.laca...@gmail.com wrote: I think it would be better to name

Re: [Pharo-dev] DebugAction category

2015-05-31 Thread Ben Coman
On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 1:47 PM, stepharo steph...@free.fr wrote: Oki You see when you browse the code you wonder if you should pass a class tag or a method protocol. So I will update the comment. To me category is a bit too much overloaded. There are 848 methods containing the string

Re: [Pharo-dev] Beyond RPackages: RPackageTag and DynamicGroup

2015-05-28 Thread Ben Coman
On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 5:48 PM, Sergio Fedi sergio.f...@gmail.com wrote: (Personally I have no idea of Work criteria to list classes, and have no idea of the details of the other two) Neither do I. Never used them. Now I wonder if when you define a new group, you might also define a filter

Re: [Pharo-dev] System Morphs in OSWindows

2015-05-30 Thread Ben Coman
On Sat, May 30, 2015 at 4:16 PM, Matthieu Lacaton matthieu.laca...@gmail.com wrote: I think it would be better to name these for their function rather than the package: Nautilus openInExternalWindowOnPackage: nil. GTPlayground external openInExternalWindow.

Re: [Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core] 443652: 50064

2015-05-30 Thread Ben Coman
On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 5:17 PM, GitHub nore...@github.com wrote: Log Message: --- 50064 15605 Update Rubric https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/15605 http://files.pharo.org/image/50/50064.zip I feel we have a hole in our process where integration of external packages

Re: [Pharo-dev] Stack

2015-06-30 Thread Ben Coman
On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 5:21 PM, Thierry Goubier thierry.goub...@gmail.com wrote: 2015-06-30 11:00 GMT+02:00 stepharo steph...@free.fr: What I mean is that this is not good to have subclassing when we can use subclassing. Are you sure you mean that? *confused* Thierry Was it meant to

Re: [Pharo-dev] Morphic menus

2015-05-24 Thread Ben Coman
2015-05-22 13:00 GMT+02:00 stepharo steph...@free.fr: Hi mathieu can you open a bug entry? and publish your solution. Tx On Sun, May 24, 2015 at 10:30 PM, Matthieu Lacaton matthieu.laca...@gmail.com wrote: Sure, I've done it. I don't really know how fogbugz works so I assigned it

Re: [Pharo-dev] Morphic menus

2015-05-25 Thread Ben Coman
On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 7:34 PM, Sean P. DeNigris s...@clipperadams.com wrote: Ben Coman wrote Its usual to respond with the URL of the issue :) I'm working on making the issue workflow a bit more automatic. Cool initiative. I'd be interested in knowing more about its general architecture

Re: [Pharo-dev] Gofer upgrade error

2015-05-25 Thread Ben Coman
Hi Leo, I'm probably not the one able to provide a useful answer, but I'm curious which documentation describes that procedure :) ? It looks like something you might do in another different application. btw, which third party packages are you trying to update? cheers -ben P.S. Ideally all

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Reflectivity] Progress for Breakpoints

2015-05-26 Thread Ben Coman
Great to hear this progress, but I don't really understand the applicatoin of them. Looking for to reviewing the Tests Demos. cheers -ben On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 11:23 PM, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: TODO next: - add all possible reifications (#arguments, #context,

Re: [Pharo-dev] Cross platform key modifiers

2015-05-23 Thread Ben Coman
On 23 May 2015 6:36 am, Nicolai Hess nicolaih...@web.de wrote: Hi ben, 2015-05-22 17:28 GMT+02:00 Ben Coman b...@openinworld.com: Not sure what past history we inherited, but I am questioning the semantics of our key modifiers. My understanding is that the following is industry standard

Re: [Pharo-dev] Best practice for overwriting methods in other classes

2015-05-22 Thread Ben Coman
On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 1:08 PM, Kasper Osterbye kas...@itu.dk wrote: I have now twice in two different situations felt a need to steal a method in Nautilus and make that method an extension method in my own package. In situation A, I wanted to steal the #buildCommentPane to use a different

[Pharo-dev] Cross platform key modifiers

2015-05-22 Thread Ben Coman
Not sure what past history we inherited, but I am questioning the semantics of our key modifiers. My understanding is that the following is industry standard... OSX Windows Linux option altalt cmd ctrl ctrl with Copy

Re: [Pharo-dev] translateBy: vs translatedBy:

2015-05-26 Thread Ben Coman
On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 9:38 PM, Peter Uhnák i.uh...@gmail.com wrote: I vote for renaming to RectangletranslatedBy:, because it returns a new translated rectangle instance. -1 There is no benefit in renaming a single method, apart from creating more confusion. I wouldn't say no benefit.

Re: [Pharo-dev] translateBy: vs translatedBy:

2015-05-26 Thread Ben Coman
On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 6:14 PM, Ben Coman b...@openinworld.com wrote: On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 9:38 PM, Peter Uhnák i.uh...@gmail.com wrote: I vote for renaming to RectangletranslatedBy:, because it returns a new translated rectangle instance. -1 There is no benefit in renaming

Re: [Pharo-dev] Projects are slowly getting to live... and

2015-08-17 Thread Ben Coman
'ConfigurationOf' is currently a fairly strong convention. I think its okay to build such conventions into our tools. Maybe by default there can be a smart folder (i.e. having some filter) and a smart folder configuration option could be to hide any contained package from the top-level list.

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