Re: [Pharo-dev] Killing respondsTo:

2013-05-14 Thread Tudor Girba
+1 Doru On May 14, 2013, at 10:27 PM, stephane ducasse stephane.duca...@free.fr wrote: why do we want to introduce a bad slow type system on certain single place? Why a UI element would have to check that a given instance can do something while we never ever do it in any other places.

Re: [Pharo-dev] TxText new version 0.8

2013-05-23 Thread Tudor Girba
Yes, I think this is good at this point. When the mapping will disappear, things will become simpler. Doru On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 8:11 AM, Denis Kudriashov dionisi...@gmail.comwrote: 2013/5/22 Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com So, the pattern I know of is to put the Tests

Re: [Pharo-dev] TxText new version 0.8

2013-05-23 Thread Tudor Girba
Not even for Moose it makes sense to deploy without tests :) Doru On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 9:18 AM, Camillo Bruni camillobr...@gmail.comwrote: technically yes, but you do not need many things to run the code: - class comments - method comments - any documentation in general And

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Ann] New TxText version 1.0

2013-05-26 Thread Tudor Girba
I tried to load it, but could not because in the sig repository, the latest version of the configuration is still 0.6. Cheers, Doru On May 26, 2013, at 11:09 PM, Denis Kudriashov dionisi...@gmail.com wrote: Hello. I finish edit validation logic. So new version 1.0 is available: Gofer

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Ann] New TxText version 1.0

2013-05-27 Thread Tudor Girba
: #('ALL'). Cheers, Doru On May 27, 2013, at 6:44 AM, Denis Kudriashov dionisi...@gmail.com wrote: 2013/5/27 Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com I tried to load it, but could not because in the sig repository, the latest version of the configuration is still 0.6. It works for me. I use Pharo 2.0

Re: [Pharo-dev] Reflectivity beta

2013-05-31 Thread Tudor Girba
Indeed, this would be fantastic :) Doru On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 9:45 AM, Camille Teruel camille.ter...@gmail.comwrote: On 31 mai 2013, at 09:03, Norbert Hartl wrote: Sounds great! What happens if a method is recompiled. All metalinks are gone then? Yes indeed. If you have the method:

[Pharo-dev] using fogbugz for other projects (like moose)

2013-05-31 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi, Would it be possible and desired, to open the Pharo fogbugz infrastructure for other related projects? Namely, I am thinking of Moose, in particular given that various issues are directly relevant for Pharo as well? For projects like Moose, this would imply less costs. The question is if

Re: [Pharo-dev] Lowecase class names

2013-06-01 Thread Tudor Girba
+1 Doru On May 31, 2013, at 3:47 PM, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: On May 31, 2013, at 1:32 PM, Jan Vrany jan.vr...@fit.cvut.cz wrote: Hi is there any reason why class builder does not allow lowercase classnames? Underscore is allowed, though. In the past people

Re: [Pharo-dev] Rubric screencast

2013-06-01 Thread Tudor Girba
Good job, Alain! Here is the script for people that want to try it out (I tried it and it works in Pharo 2.0): Gofer new url: 'http://www.smalltalkhub.com/mc/AlainPlantec/Rubric/main'; package: 'Rubric'; load. Doru On Jun 1, 2013, at 5:38 PM, Stéphane Ducasse

Re: [Pharo-dev] about Announcement weak on: do:

2013-06-02 Thread Tudor Girba
Indeed, the main reason why announcers were not made weak by default was that the weak code only worked for message sends but not for blocks. It would be great to have the blocks working, too. Doru On Jun 2, 2013, at 2:13 PM, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: Hi igor

[Pharo-dev] get.moosetechnology.org

2013-06-03 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi, Andrei joined Camillo and extended a bit the ZeroConf infrastructure to make it easy for other projects to generate install scripts. As a consequence, we now have: http://get.moosetechnology.org The Moose-specific customization code can be found in the Moose-Development-Tools package

Re: [Pharo-dev] MetacelloRepository

2013-06-04 Thread Tudor Girba
Which is a good thing :) Thanks, Doru On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 9:28 AM, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.frwrote: On Jun 4, 2013, at 7:18 AM, Hilaire Fernandes hilaire.fernan...@gmail.com wrote: Stephane, The lack for me was the configurationOfXML with the XML-Parser version I

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Screencast]: Pharo Smalltalk's New TxText: The Power of Clean Code

2013-06-06 Thread Tudor Girba
This is elegant :) Doru On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 9:21 PM, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.frwrote: So cool :) something like that ? :) smalltalkCodeWithStabilo self smalltalkCodeWithStabilo | area seg code | area := RubEditingArea new

[Pharo-dev] taking a custom screenshot of a submorph

2013-06-06 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi, Just in case you want to take a screenshot of a submorph, here is a description + video of how you can do it using the GTInspector: http://www.humane-assessment.com/blog/custom-morph-screenshot-with-gtinspector Cheers, Doru -- www.tudorgirba.com Every thing has its own flow

Re: [Pharo-dev] Modification on CollectionsExtensions

2013-06-14 Thread Tudor Girba
are directly relevant for Pharo and the other way around Cheers, Doru -- www.tudorgirba.com Every thing has its own flow. On 13.06.2013, at 23:24, Sean P. DeNigris s...@clipperadams.com wrote: Tudor Girba-2 wrote We will release Moose at the end of this month and we will move to Pharo 3.0 I'm

Re: [Pharo-dev] Tabs

2013-06-20 Thread Tudor Girba
Great job, Ben. Doru On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 9:03 PM, Benjamin benjamin.vanryseghem.ph...@gmail.com wrote: hello guys :) I would like to introduce a new implementation of tabs with the following features (for now): - tabs with icon (and a label of course) - un-closable tabs - threaded

Re: [Pharo-dev] taking a custom screenshot of a submorph

2013-06-20 Thread Tudor Girba
benjamin.vanryseghem.ph...@gmail.com wrote: One could use the halo, seems faster to me Ben On Jun 6, 2013, at 11:04 PM, Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com wrote: Hi, Just in case you want to take a screenshot of a submorph, here is a description + video of how you can do it using

Re: [Pharo-dev] Modification on CollectionsExtensions

2013-06-21 Thread Tudor Girba
Thanks again. I committed the change you proposed. So, now we have flatCollect: using writeStream. Cheers, Doru On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 3:18 PM, Sebastian Tleye stl...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, Fixing some bugs in Traits we realized that it would be good idea to use CollectionsExtensions

Re: [Pharo-dev] Tabs

2013-06-21 Thread Tudor Girba
to go Ben.. It is inspiring On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 2:21 PM, Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com wrote: Great job, Ben. Doru On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 9:03 PM, Benjamin benjamin.vanryseghem.ph...@gmail.com wrote: hello guys :) I would like to introduce a new implementation of tabs

Re: [Pharo-dev] First shot on acceptance tests for the VM

2013-06-23 Thread Tudor Girba
Excellent! Doru On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 5:08 PM, Guillermo Polito guillermopol...@gmail.com wrote: Hi! We were discussing over here about it, so I decided to finally start something on the front of an acceptance test for our VM. The core idea is to stress the VM to test its stability

Re: [Pharo-dev] First shot on acceptance tests for the VM

2013-06-23 Thread Tudor Girba
+1 Doru On Sat, Jun 22, 2013 at 9:28 AM, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.frwrote: Very nice! Another thing we need to look at at some point is to make different VM build for each major version. The idea is that there is a dedicated build of the VM for Pharo3, which would be frozen

Re: [Pharo-dev] Object #is:

2013-06-23 Thread Tudor Girba
obtain the name of the class via asString). Cheers, Doru On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 9:30 PM, Camillo Bruni camillobr...@gmail.comwrote: On 2013-06-23, at 21:25, Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com wrote: If we want to have an Objectis:, why not: Objectis: aSymbol ^ aSymbol = self class name

Re: [Pharo-dev] Better Interruption in 2.0

2013-06-30 Thread Tudor Girba
Is this integrated in 2.0 already? Doru On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 3:12 PM, Goubier Thierry thierry.goub...@cea.frwrote: Hi Stephan, I've put a slice to integrate that and the overall UserInterrupt code to get it to work. Can you try it? It's

Re: [Pharo-dev] WhatsUp from: 2013-07-01 until: 2013-07-14

2013-07-01 Thread Tudor Girba
On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 7:00 AM, seas...@rmod.lille.inria.fr wrote: Hi! We're sending this automatic email twice a month, to give the community an opportunity to easily know what's happening and to coordinate efforts. Just answer informally, and feel free to spawn discussions thereafter!

[Pharo-dev] Fwd: [Pharo-users] Tudor Girba joins Pharo Board

2013-07-03 Thread Tudor Girba
I forgot again to push the reply all button. Doru -- Forwarded message -- From: Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com Date: Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 9:59 AM Subject: Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] Tudor Girba joins Pharo Board To: Any question about pharo is welcome pharo-us

Re: [Pharo-dev] We did it! SlotClassBuilder is active

2013-07-03 Thread Tudor Girba
Wow! I cannot wait to clunky dictionary-based instance variable extensions with slots. Doru On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 5:00 PM, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.frwrote: Hi, Today we turned on the SlotClassBuilder… this means actually quite a huge change, as it puts into place lots of

Re: [Pharo-dev] We did it! SlotClassBuilder is active

2013-07-04 Thread Tudor Girba
I forgot about this side-effect. PetitParser will be so happy. Doru On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 9:51 AM, Norbert Hartl norb...@hartl.name wrote: Hehe, yes, and finally I can have more than 254 instance variables! Norbert Am 03.07.2013 um 23:38 schrieb Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com: Wow

Re: [Pharo-dev] We did it! SlotClassBuilder is active

2013-07-04 Thread Tudor Girba
And Moose :) Doru On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 10:56 AM, Stephan Eggermont step...@stack.nl wrote: Great! Time to simplify Magritte. Stephan -- www.tudorgirba.com Every thing has its own flow

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Moose-dev] SourceCity works

2013-07-04 Thread Tudor Girba
+1 Doru On Jul 4, 2013, at 6:23 PM, Alexandre Bergel alexandre.ber...@me.com wrote: Hi Erwan and all, Just to make a few things clear about Roassal 3d vs SourceCity. We are currently working on Roassal 3d, which intends to be a nice layer at the top of NBOpenGL and NBXLib to easily

Re: [Pharo-dev] Sunburst visualization

2013-07-04 Thread Tudor Girba
This looks like really a fantastic job. I cannot wait to see the code :) Doru On Jul 4, 2013, at 3:20 PM, Alexandre Bergel alexandre.ber...@me.com wrote: Hi! We are currently working on a Sunburst based on top of Roassal. Milton is doing a fantastic job! Here some early screenshots:

Re: [Pharo-dev] sunit failures vs errors

2013-07-10 Thread Tudor Girba
Precisely. There is a huge difference between invalidating a known contract (i.e., failure) and raising an unexpected error (i.e., error). Please do not do away with this distinction. Cheers, Doru On Jul 10, 2013, at 10:34 AM, Damien Cassou damien.cas...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 10,

Re: [Pharo-dev] sunit failures vs errors

2013-07-10 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi, On Jul 10, 2013, at 1:47 PM, Camillo Bruni camillobr...@gmail.com wrote: On 2013-07-10, at 13:32, Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com wrote: Precisely. There is a huge difference between invalidating a known contract (i.e., failure) and raising an unexpected error (i.e., error). In which

Re: [Pharo-dev] Athens + Amber progress

2013-07-13 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi, Great work! Also, Matthias is describing the progress on a dedicated blog, so people can stay tuned: http://amber-athens.m-sp.org/ Cheers, Doru On Jul 12, 2013, at 5:51 PM, Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, i just wanna share news about progress on subject GSoC project.

Re: [Pharo-dev] Some Spec questions

2013-07-13 Thread Tudor Girba
Exciting times :) Doru On Jul 13, 2013, at 8:08 AM, Clément Bera bera.clem...@gmail.com wrote: Ok, then we will integrate it together when you come to Lille in 2 weeks. Good news. Cheers, 2013/7/12 Andrei Vasile Chis chisvasileand...@gmail.com Hi Clément, Hi Clara, What about

Re: [Pharo-dev] [2.0] Issues tagged for Pharo 2

2013-07-16 Thread Tudor Girba
I would definitely say so :) Doru On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 9:21 AM, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.frwrote: Hi, There are 7 issues tagged for Pharo2: https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/filters/8/2-0-Work-Needed None of them was important enough to be fixed (or even discussed on this list).

[Pharo-dev] modeling Zinc request method

2013-07-16 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi, The recently announced cool tutorial on using Zinc made me read the Zinc code in a bit more detail. I must admit, it makes for a nice read. In the process, I stumbled across: knownHTTPMethods ^ #( Standard HTTP 1.1 Verbs GET PUT POST DELETE HEAD

Re: [Pharo-dev] Spec delete method

2013-07-17 Thread Tudor Girba
I guess what Stef means is that he would like to know if there is a way specify custom behavior when a window closes, and then use this for his purpose of unregistering from some announcer. Cheers, Doru On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 2:36 PM, Benjamin benjamin.vanryseghem.ph...@gmail.com wrote: I

Re: [Pharo-dev] [update 3.0] #30285

2013-07-20 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi, On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 2:27 PM, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.frwrote: 30285 - 10823 Kill old list model https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10823 11136 RadioButtonGroupExample new openWithSpec is not working https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/11136 11174 Add

Re: [Pharo-dev] About abuse of inheritance

2013-07-20 Thread Tudor Girba
Thanks, Hannes. I am not completely misunderstood, then :) Doru On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 2:02 PM, H. Hirzel hannes.hir...@gmail.com wrote: On 7/19/13, Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com wrote: On 19 July 2013 16:17, Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com wrote: Hi Igor, I love

Re: [Pharo-dev] About abuse of inheritance

2013-07-20 Thread Tudor Girba
Certainly :) Doru On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 1:48 PM, Camillo Bruni camillobr...@gmail.comwrote: How about statefull Traits? http://scg.unibe.ch/archive/papers/Berg07aStatefulTraits.pdf On 2013-07-20, at 12:48, Denis Kudriashov dionisi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi 2013/7/19 Igor Stasenko

Re: [Pharo-dev] About abuse of inheritance

2013-07-22 Thread Tudor Girba
I love this debate, but given the energy it attracted, I now apologize to have fueled it. By reading the thread, I believe that everyone involved in the discussion is on the same page on 99.9% of the cases, the only real difference being the case of the Announcer (and even there, the difference

[Pharo-dev] [ann] snapshotcello

2013-07-23 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi, Stef and I developed Snapshotcello, a little utility that enables you to freeze a snapshot of a given configuration based on what is already loaded in your current image. The idea is simple. You develop against the latest versions of all packages, and commit your changes for each package.

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] [Moose-dev] Re: [ann] snapshotcello

2013-07-24 Thread Tudor Girba
feature. | | Stef | | On Jul 23, 2013, at 10:43 PM, Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com | wrote: | | Hi, | | Stef and I developed Snapshotcello, a little utility that enables | you to freeze a snapshot of a given configuration based on what is | already loaded in your current image

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Moose-dev] [ann] snapshotcello

2013-07-24 Thread Tudor Girba
, at 23:17, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: Nice to see SnapshotCello coming to live. May be it should be integrated to Metacello. Because everybody may need this cool feature. Stef On Jul 23, 2013, at 10:43 PM, Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com wrote: Hi, Stef and I

Re: [Pharo-dev] Loading scripts vs. configs with #stable and config browser (was: [ann] snapshotcello)

2013-07-24 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi Torsten, Thanks for the rant :) It did not put it as a release yet, because I still wanted people to play with it. Hence the suggested loadDevelopment. As for Moose not being in the configuration browser, it is precisely because we could not really release it until now in a reliable fashion

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] [Moose-dev] Re: Re: [ann] snapshotcello

2013-07-24 Thread Tudor Girba
2013, at 09:52, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: On Jul 24, 2013, at 9:11 AM, Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com wrote: Hi, On Jul 24, 2013, at 8:48 AM, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: On Jul 23, 2013, at 11:51 PM, Dale K. Henrichs dale.henri

Re: [Pharo-dev] [update 3.0] #30295

2013-07-24 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi, On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 1:05 PM, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.frwrote: 30295 - 11219 Speed up test run: #testAddMetaclassPattern in RBRefactoringChangeTests https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/11219 11224 Enable the new debugger

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Moose-dev] Re: [ann] snapshotcello

2013-07-24 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi, I would be happy to blend Snapshotcello into Metacello. Cheers, Doru On Jul 24, 2013, at 9:05 PM, Dale K. Henrichs dale.henri...@gemtalksystems.com wrote: - Original Message - | From: Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr | To: Pharo Development List

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] [Moose-dev] Re: Re: [ann] snapshotcello

2013-07-25 Thread Tudor Girba
versioning of all nested configurations is not as far away as you think. And again, I think some deep discussions at a whiteboard and some pair programming is probably the most efficient... Dale - Original Message - | From: Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com | To: Pharo Development

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] [Moose-dev] Re: Re: [ann] snapshotcello

2013-07-25 Thread Tudor Girba
is probably the most efficient... Dale - Original Message - | From: Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com | To: Pharo Development List pharo-dev@lists.pharo.org | Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2013 11:24:20 AM | Subject: Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] [Moose-dev] Re: Re: [ann

Re: [Pharo-dev] Loading scripts vs. configs with #stable and config browser (was: [ann] snapshotcello)

2013-07-27 Thread Tudor Girba
Snapshotcello is now in ss3.gemtalksystems.com/ss/MetaRepoForPharo20. Once it will be tested in Pharo 3.0, it will be published in there, too. Doru On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 12:42 PM, Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com wrote: Hi Torsten, Thanks for the rant :) It did not put it as a release

[Pharo-dev] moose build - pharo vm crash

2013-08-06 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi, It seems that the Moose build crashes the VM since yesterday evening due to a failing test. The image is based on Pharo 2.0 and is running a stable VM on Ubuntu. See some details here: https://ci.inria.fr/moose/job/Moose-latest-dev-4.8/804/console The script to reproduce the problem (on

Re: [Pharo-dev] Checking your Gravatar

2013-08-13 Thread Tudor Girba
your inspector, I wonder, isn't there a bug? If I try to open the halos on the picture, it actually takes the World. Is this the expected behavior? Thanks! On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 5:53 PM, Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.comwrote: Hi, I could not resist: here is a little blog post about

[Pharo-dev] inria jenkins got much faster

2013-08-14 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi, I just noticed that the Jenkins jobs got much faster. For example, the Moose job went from 36 minutes to 6 minutes. Or the Glamour job went from 11 minutes to 3 minutes. This is fantastic, but I do not know why the difference occurs. It seems that the difference started yesterday before

Re: [Pharo-dev] inria jenkins got much faster

2013-08-14 Thread Tudor Girba
: if you are using latest 2.0, that's probably because the integration of the RPackageSet cache. the previous slowdown was exponential, so big projects like moose took *really* much time to load. Esteban On Aug 14, 2013, at 11:43 AM, Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com wrote: Hi, I just noticed

Re: [Pharo-dev] XML writer in the default image

2013-08-15 Thread Tudor Girba
+1 On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 10:10 AM, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.comwrote: +1 On Aug 15, 2013, at 9:41 AM, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: On Aug 15, 2013, at 2:15 AM, Camillo Bruni camillobr...@gmail.com wrote: As reported a while ago (

Re: [Pharo-dev] Installing Rubrik into 3alpha

2013-08-15 Thread Tudor Girba
Just make sure it still works on Pharo 2.0 for a little while. Doru On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 12:08 PM, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.comwrote: Hi, I tried to install Rubrik in 3alpha (yes, yes, I know... is development, etc., etc., but I wanted to test precisely how it is behaving a

Re: [Pharo-dev] WhatsUp from: 2013-08-19 until: 2013-08-31

2013-08-19 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi, ### Here's what I've been up to since the last WhatsUp: - $HEROIC_ACHIEVEMENTS_OR_DISMAL_FAILURES_OR_SIMPLE_BORING_NECESSARY_TASKS - Significant Moose cleaning and preparation for the release - Strenghtening Snapshotcello (a new release is available for Pharo 2.0) - Working on a robust

[Pharo-dev] reflection examples

2013-08-20 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi, I am preparing a set of talks that have reflection at the center. Obviously, I want to use Pharo to demonstrate reflection. I am now looking for examples that can be explained to programmer newbies (actually, managers). I am particularly looking for examples that include adaptation (not just

Re: [Pharo-dev] reflection examples

2013-08-21 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi, On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 10:40 PM, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: On Aug 20, 2013, at 10:29 PM, Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com wrote: Hi, I am preparing a set of talks that have reflection at the center. Obviously, I want to use Pharo to demonstrate reflection

Re: [Pharo-dev] default of completion

2013-08-21 Thread Tudor Girba
Completion should always be on. If it is perceived to be not useful, it means the completion identification mechanism must be improved. Turning the completion off will not make it likely to improve the mechanism behind. Doru On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 3:02 PM, Camillo Bruni

Re: [Pharo-dev] -= First Visualization Contest with Roassal =-

2013-08-23 Thread Tudor Girba
Great idea! Doru On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 8:31 AM, Alexandre Bergel alexandre.ber...@me.comwrote: Dear colleagues and friends, We are happy to announce the First Visualization Contest with Roassal. What can I win? - 150 euros, sponsored by ObjectProfile - a über-cool ObjectProfile

Re: [Pharo-dev] -= First Visualization Contest with Roassal =-

2013-08-24 Thread Tudor Girba
Let's try to keep the noise going about this: http://www.moosetechnology.org/news/roassal-visualization-competition I think it would be cool to see the submissions as they get submitted. Doru On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 10:49 AM, Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com wrote: Great idea! Doru

[Pharo-dev] [ann] dynamic browsers with glamour

2013-08-25 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi, Here is a little announcement for those that like Glamour. Andrei and I worked on making Glamour more dynamic by pushing the presentation definition at execution, rather than at browser construction time. To achieve dynamic presentation creation, before you needed to use the

Re: [Pharo-dev] Rubrik, scroll to end?

2013-08-27 Thread Tudor Girba
I also thinks it sounds good now. I love this type of discussions. Doru On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 3:19 PM, Stephan Eggermont step...@stack.nl wrote: Alain wrote: Maybe something like: #scrollToEndOfText, #scrollToBeginningOfText, #scrollToEndOfLine, #scrollToBeginningOfLine. #pageUp,

Re: [Pharo-dev] a weak on:do:/when:do:

2013-08-28 Thread Tudor Girba
Does this work? Doru On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 11:54 AM, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: whenListChanged: aBlock Specify a block to value after the contents of the list has changed Basically when you set a new list of items api: #event |

Re: [Pharo-dev] a weak on:do:/when:do:

2013-08-28 Thread Tudor Girba
On Aug 28, 2013, at 11:56 AM, Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com wrote: Does this work? Doru On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 11:54 AM, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: whenListChanged: aBlock Specify a block to value after the contents of the list has changed

Re: [Pharo-dev] It was a productive and nice sprint.

2013-08-28 Thread Tudor Girba
Thank you! Where can I see the pointer explorer? Doru On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 9:00 PM, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: Thanks all for your good energy. I will push some of the fixes in the stream too :) For the non participating guys we got - compiler fixes

Re: [Pharo-dev] It was a productive and nice sprint.

2013-08-29 Thread Tudor Girba
the tools to let him get there. unfortunately i didn't managed to chase them all. found couple leaks, but there are more which still escaping :( what i want to do is to write small tracer which will search for local roots of set of objects. stef On Aug 29, 2013, at 7:00 AM, Tudor Girba tu

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Moose-dev] Some FAMIX questions

2013-08-29 Thread Tudor Girba
+100 Doru On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 9:58 PM, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: nice analysis. I really hope that using smarter class structure based on Slot we can offer a solution in the future. On Aug 29, 2013, at 6:24 PM, Stephan Eggermont step...@stack.nl wrote:

Re: [Pharo-dev] No more dirty packages in Pharo

2013-09-01 Thread Tudor Girba
Ok, great. I loaded ConfigurationOfMagritte3 #development, and Grease loaded clean. Thank you! The only remaining problem was asMorph in Magritte-Morph, but I fixed it now, so Magritte loads clean in Pharo 2.0. Cheers, Doru On Sun, Sep 1, 2013 at 7:29 AM, Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com

Re: [Pharo-dev] self foo: (var := …) vs var := …. self foo: var

2013-09-01 Thread Tudor Girba
As far as I know, it was the same problem that induced the Metacello loading problem related with SmallInteger. Doru On Sep 1, 2013, at 5:37 PM, Alexandre Bergel alexandre.ber...@me.com wrote: Ok, thanks! Alexandre On Sep 1, 2013, at 10:01 AM, Camillo Bruni camillobr...@gmail.com

Re: [Pharo-dev] Distributing File Resources

2013-09-03 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi Jeff, Would you have an interest looking into this and prototyping a solution? Doru On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 12:44 PM, J.F. Rick s...@je77.com wrote: I'm surprised this doesn't exist yet. It seems like it would be a natural thing to be part of Monticello. Cheers, Jeff On Tue, Sep 3,

Re: [Pharo-dev] [About Documentation] Teach, Don't Tell / Steve Losh

2013-09-04 Thread Tudor Girba
+1 Doru On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 2:13 PM, Camillo Bruni camillobr...@gmail.comwrote: I really liked it! thanks for the link :) On 2013-09-04, at 06:34, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote: Pretty well written piece about real documentation:

Re: [Pharo-dev] The Moldable Debugger Framework

2013-09-08 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi, Great job, Andrei! Just a couple of complementary remarks: - Moldable tools offer a significant departure from the original Smalltalk environment. Just think about it: we pride ourselves on our live environment, yet the default tools are utterly static. In contrast, the moldable debugger

[Pharo-dev] cannot commit with gofer to sthub (HTTP 403)

2013-09-10 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi, It seems that I cannot commit with Gofer on STHub. I get a 403. If I do it via the regular Monticello browser, it works just fine. I am on the latest Pharo 2.0 and I use a script that goes like this: Gofer new url: 'http://www.smalltalkhub.com/mc/Moose/MooseAlgos/main/'; package:

Re: [Pharo-dev] cannot commit with gofer to sthub (HTTP 403)

2013-09-10 Thread Tudor Girba
As I said, I was using the latest Pharo 2.0. Doru On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 9:36 AM, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: which version of the image are you using? Stef Hi, It seems that I cannot commit with Gofer on STHub. I get a 403. If I do it via the regular

Re: [Pharo-dev] cannot commit with gofer to sthub (HTTP 403)

2013-09-11 Thread Tudor Girba
, 2013 at 7:22 PM, MartinW w...@fastmail.fm wrote: Tudor Girba-2 wrote with the url being already authenticated beforehand. I also tried by passing the url:username:password: explicitly, but this has the same 403 effect. Anyone knows what the issue is? At least I know that second part

[Pharo-dev] [ann] moose 4.8

2013-09-12 Thread Tudor Girba
We are happy to announce version 4.8 of the Moose Suite: http://moosetechnology.org/download/4.8 Description -- This was supposed to be a minor release, but in the end it turned out to be a major release with significant improvements. The key highlights are: - Based on Pharo 2.0. - All built-in

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ann] moose 4.8

2013-09-13 Thread Tudor Girba
Yeah, I used to work with Smalltalk quite a lot. Now, I only work with Pharo, and I do not miss Smalltalk at all :) Doru On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 11:11 AM, Damien Cassou damien.cas...@gmail.comwrote: On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 11:05 AM, Serge Stinckwich serge.stinckw...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ann] moose 4.8

2013-09-13 Thread Tudor Girba
Pharo is Pharo :) http://www.tudorgirba.com/blog/pharo-is-pharo Doru On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 11:18 AM, kilon theki...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: pharo is not smalltalk ? o_O it certainly fooled me -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/ann-moose-4-8-tp4707988p4708053.html

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Seaside News] Smalltalkhub, ConfigurationOfSeaside3, Seaside3.1

2013-09-14 Thread Tudor Girba
Great work! Doru On Sep 14, 2013, at 10:33 AM, Johan Brichau jo...@inceptive.be wrote: Hi Seasiders, The Seaside repository moved to Smalltalkhub, a new ConfigurationOfSeaside3 was created and Seaside 3.1 is in release candidate mode. Current stable release for all platforms is 3.0.8

Re: [Pharo-dev] moose build under 2.0

2013-09-16 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi, We typically load development on the CI server: REPO=http://www.smalltalkhub.com/mc/Moose/Moose/main ./pharo $JOB_NAME.image config $REPO ConfigurationOfMoose --install=development But, I think you are doing something else other than loading the code, and I think the problem is that at

Re: [Pharo-dev] moose build under 2.0

2013-09-16 Thread Tudor Girba
very much ;) On 2013-09-16, at 17:26, Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com wrote: Hi, We typically load development on the CI server: REPO=http://www.smalltalkhub.com/mc/Moose/Moose/main ./pharo $JOB_NAME.image config $REPO ConfigurationOfMoose --install=development But, I think you

[Pharo-dev] scripts for automating the moose release

2013-09-16 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi, I wrote a little blog post describing the process of releasing Moose: http://www.humane-assessment.com/blog/automating-moose-4-8-release Perhaps this might be useful for others. And perhaps we can find ways to improve it. Cheers, Doru -- www.tudorgirba.com The coherence of a trip is

Re: [Pharo-dev] Seaside Continuous Integration on ci.inria.fr

2013-09-16 Thread Tudor Girba
+100 This is so important. Doru On Sep 16, 2013, at 6:09 PM, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: I deeply appreciate your effort and I want to thank the seaside group. Stef On Sep 16, 2013, at 11:20 AM, Philippe Marschall kus...@gmx.net wrote: Hi This is a short

Re: [Pharo-dev] Smalltalkhub = 503

2013-09-18 Thread Tudor Girba
Thank you, Nicolas. Just for the record: Although people send mails mostly when SmalltalkHub is down, I am sure everyone is happy that SmalltalkHub exists. I for one am :) Doru On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 5:40 PM, Guillermo Polito guillermopol...@gmail.com wrote: Thanksss :) On Tue, Sep 17,

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Moose-dev] Code functionality assessment

2013-09-23 Thread Tudor Girba
I blogged it:) http://www.moosetechnology.org/news/assessing-ode-with-graphet Cheers, Doru On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 7:36 PM, Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com wrote: Very nice work, Natalia! Doru On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 6:12 PM, Natalia Tymchuk natalia.tymc...@unikernel.net wrote

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Moose-dev] Code functionality assessment

2013-09-23 Thread Tudor Girba
Very nice work, Natalia! Doru On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 6:12 PM, Natalia Tymchuk natalia.tymc...@unikernel.net wrote: Hello, I wrote another blog post concerning my project on Google Summer of Code, and there's how I assessed the results using Graph-ET.

Re: [Pharo-dev] Dynamically adding nodes to Roassal

2013-09-30 Thread Tudor Girba
You would get answers to these questions faster on the moose mailing list. Doru On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 8:13 AM, roberto.mine...@usi.ch roberto.mine...@usi.ch wrote: Anyone can help here? On Sep 20, 2013, at 5:32 PM, roberto.mine...@usi.ch wrote: Hi, It's me again.. I managed to

Re: [Pharo-dev] failing moose tests

2013-10-02 Thread Tudor Girba
You would get this problem anyway. Let's fix the current development version and the we resnapshot. In the longer term we will see how the enhancements from Diego can help. Doru Sent from my iPhone On Oct 2, 2013, at 10:28, Stephan Eggermont step...@stack.nl wrote: (from pharo -dev)

Re: [Pharo-dev] Any visualisation for Metacello?

2013-10-03 Thread Tudor Girba
Indeed. And if you need some other information than the one shown, just let us know and we can try to add it. Doru On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 10:13 AM, Christophe Demarey christophe.dema...@inria.fr wrote: Gofer new url: 'http://www.smalltalkhub.com/mc/Moose/GToolkit/main';

[Pharo-dev] [ann] system attraction view

2013-10-03 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi, I built a new visualization that has two goals: 1. show how the architecture of a system is fluid rather than rigid. 2. look good and serve as advertisement device for Moose, Roassal and Pharo. A description of mainly point 1. can be found here:

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo (cog) Vm on Windows with 2GB virtual mem

2013-10-04 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi, As far as I can tell, you should set the limit in MBytes. So, for 2G, you should have: AddressSpaceLimit=2048 I am using 1GB for some Moose analyses. I benchmarked and got no sign of slowdown. Cheers, Doru On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 6:10 AM, Oscar EA Callaú oalva...@dcc.uchile.clwrote:

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ann] system attraction view

2013-10-04 Thread Tudor Girba
Regards, Thierry Le 03/10/2013 23:34, Tudor Girba a écrit : Hi, I built a new visualization that has two goals: 1. show how the architecture of a system is fluid rather than rigid. 2. look good and serve as advertisement device for Moose, Roassal and Pharo. A description of mainly point 1

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Mustache templates

2013-10-04 Thread Tudor Girba
Very nice! Doru On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 1:47 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote: On 04 Oct 2013, at 12:58, Norbert Hartl norb...@hartl.name wrote: Am 04.10.2013 um 12:32 schrieb Alexandre Bergel alexandre.ber...@me.com : What is a mustache template?

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ann] system attraction view

2013-10-04 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi, On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 2:42 PM, Goubier Thierry thierry.goub...@cea.frwrote: Le 04/10/2013 14:14, Tudor Girba a écrit : Hi, On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 1:41 PM, Goubier Thierry thierry.goub...@cea.fr mailto:thierry.goub...@cea.fr** wrote: Hi Tudor, I found your visualisation

Re: [Pharo-dev] [update 3.0] #30446

2013-10-04 Thread Tudor Girba
Impressive is the right word, indeed :) Doru On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 12:08 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote: On 04 Oct 2013, at 10:53, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: 30446 - 11719 integrate all the changes from the repository of the new debugger

Re: [Pharo-dev] about creating Morphic-Widgets

2013-10-06 Thread Tudor Girba
+1 Doru On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 10:28 PM, Benjamin benjamin.vanryseghem.ph...@gmail.com wrote: I am in for splitting Morphic in more that one package. It makes things really boring to have every thing in one MC Package :( Ben On Oct 6, 2013, at 8:54 PM, Stéphane Ducasse

Re: [Pharo-dev] Please try to reproduce this bug

2013-10-07 Thread Tudor Girba
I just tried on Windows with: http://files.pharo.org/platform/Pharo2.0-win.zip and it works fine. Doru On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 11:04 AM, Goubier Thierry thierry.goub...@cea.frwrote: In short: does not happens if you use the get.pharo.org vm. Happens if you use the ubuntu pharo ppa.

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