Re: [Pharo-dev] Cmd-o is not opening a new pane?

2014-10-02 Thread Tudor Girba
Why do you think that the Cmd+i option introduces incoherence? Doru On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 11:45 PM, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com wrote: you have to pay attention to other lists other than moose, Alex :) nah, seriously: we have been discussing on a remap, because it is conflicting

Re: [Pharo-dev] Cmd-o is not opening a new pane?

2014-10-03 Thread Tudor Girba
have not say it loud :) Cheers, Doru On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 8:11 AM, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com wrote: yes, because it will be open panel in playground and popup an inspector everyplace else. On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 7:47 AM, Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com wrote: Why do you think

Re: [Pharo-dev] Cmd-o is not opening a new pane?

2014-10-03 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi, Exactly, that is the idea behind the i, but the problem is that we still have to find a nice way of implementing it :). Cheers, Doru On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 8:14 AM, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: On 03 Oct 2014, at 07:47, Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com wrote: Why do

Re: [Pharo-dev] Playground

2014-10-03 Thread Tudor Girba
:) Doru On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 8:20 AM, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: On 02 Oct 2014, at 21:36, Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 5:19 PM, kilon alios kilon.al...@gmail.com wrote: Is it just me or is the Playground a big step back

Re: [Pharo-dev] Playground

2014-10-03 Thread Tudor Girba
...@gmail.com wrote: not really but thats ok I will wait for the documentation of it. On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 8:46 AM, Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com wrote: Hi Kilon, I think I see where the confusion starts from. So, let's start from the basics: - the inspector is for inspecting objects

Re: [Pharo-dev] Cmd-o is not opening a new pane?

2014-10-03 Thread Tudor Girba
… I would like to avoid that. Esteban On 03 Oct 2014, at 08:17, Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com wrote: Hi, What if you see it like this: Cmd+i inspects. If you can inspect in place, you do it, otherwise, you inspect in a new window. I know it would require a bit of getting used

Re: [Pharo-dev] Cmd-o is not opening a new pane?

2014-10-03 Thread Tudor Girba
On a separate note, I played with another variation of a go icon that would be more specific to Pharo. Would you like this better? [image: Inline image 1] Cheers, Doru On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 8:35 AM, Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com wrote: I understand. But, even now, you associated Cmd+i

Re: [Pharo-dev] Playground

2014-10-03 Thread Tudor Girba
It is precisely those points that are not so obvious that are important to discover. That is why your feedback is important. Please keep the questions and suggestions coming. Cheers, Doru On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 9:00 AM, kilon alios kilon.al...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks I will read those and try

Re: [Pharo-dev] Cmd-o is not opening a new pane?

2014-10-03 Thread Tudor Girba
Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com wrote: On a separate note, I played with another variation of a go icon that would be more specific to Pharo. Would you like this better? go-icon.png Cheers, Doru On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 8:35 AM, Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com wrote: I understand. But, even

Re: [Pharo-dev] Cmd-o is not opening a new pane?

2014-10-03 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi, Well, the same argument was used for inspectors before the GTInspector. And now, the amount of inspector windows reduces significantly and you actually gain value in the process (because you keep track of the session). Having windows popping up everywhere is a technical solution, but it does

Re: [Pharo-dev] Poll: What should we use to replace cmd+o in GTPlayground?

2014-10-03 Thread Tudor Girba
Yes, it is meant to replace the classic inspector. Did you notice that anything is missing? Doru On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 1:24 PM, kilon alios kilon.al...@gmail.com wrote: will gtinspector replace the existing inspector ? will it offer all the functionality that the existing inspector offers ?

Re: [Pharo-dev] Cmd-o is not opening a new pane?

2014-10-03 Thread Tudor Girba
I suggest another thing. We keep Cmd+g as the ginspect. And when we will work on the next tools will add this command when possible. So, in essence, Cmd+i will become the Cmd+Shift+i from my proposal, and Cmd+g will become the Cmd+i from my proposal. What do you think? Cheers, Doru On Fri,

Re: [Pharo-dev] Cmd-o is not opening a new pane?

2014-10-03 Thread Tudor Girba
Or it can be Do it and go. Doru On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 2:41 PM, Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com wrote: Ok. Then how do we call the action? I like gInspect, but that is not useful for non-deeply-into-the-joke-people. Would Go be fine? Cheers, Doru On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 2:37 PM

Re: [Pharo-dev] First additions to GT-Inspector

2014-10-03 Thread Tudor Girba
Great. I checked it quickly and it looks great. I added you to the Moose team. Could you please commit directly in the repo? Doru On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 3:17 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote: I made my first additions/changes to GT-Inspector: === Name:

Re: [Pharo-dev] First additions to GT-Inspector

2014-10-03 Thread Tudor Girba
Done! Doru On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 3:25 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote: On 03 Oct 2014, at 15:23, Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com wrote: Great. I checked it quickly and it looks great. I added you to the Moose team. Could you please commit directly in the repo? Done

Re: [Pharo-dev] Official academic consortium members

2014-10-03 Thread Tudor Girba
Excellent! Doru On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 8:43 PM, Clara Allende clari.alle...@gmail.com wrote: Woh :D Le 3 oct. 2014 20:16, Yuriy Tymchuk yuriy.tymc...@me.com a écrit : Yay :) On 03 Oct 2014, at 19:26, stepharo steph...@free.fr wrote: Hi guys we are really happy to welcome

Re: [Pharo-dev] About ways to participate in community and general negativity

2014-10-03 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi, On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 9:48 PM, stepharo steph...@free.fr wrote: You see we started Athens more than two years ago. It is a success for external tools like moose and Roassal but without TxText Athens will just be a nice package not change the face of Pharo and we will get there.

Re: [Pharo-dev] About ways to participate in community and general negativity

2014-10-03 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi, The intention of the message of Esteban is to urge people to be positive. Nothing else. Keep in mind that email is a rather poor environment and simply ask yourself before sending a message if it can have a chance of leading to something better. Positive does not mean no criticism. On the

Re: [Pharo-dev] playground size

2014-10-03 Thread Tudor Girba
This is indeed a relevant use case, and we are already thinking about this issue for quite a while. The playground or even the workspace are not appropriate for things that need to live for a short time only. I would like to have an interface that comes, let's me enter my command and then

[Pharo-dev] gt issues

2014-10-03 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi, From the feedback so far, I could not the following issues: - menus for copy/paste/cut (which I still wonder why they need to exist for a developer, but we will add them) - possibility of save/open - Cmd+g instead of Cmd+o (already fixed) - position of the cursor is sometimes messed up -

Re: [Pharo-dev] About ways to participate in community and general negativity

2014-10-04 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi Thierry, On Sat, Oct 4, 2014 at 12:03 AM, Thierry Goubier thierry.goub...@gmail.com wrote: [...] And now, to make integration easier, we pile more stuff on top of the existing, bound to be removed, infrastructure: Glamour, Rubric, etc... And both Glamour and Spec don't make it easy to

Re: [Pharo-dev] gt issues

2014-10-04 Thread Tudor Girba
If I understand correctly, you would want a way to close panes. Correct? Doru On Sat, Oct 4, 2014 at 9:07 AM, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com wrote: On 04 Oct 2014, at 09:06, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote: On 04 Oct 2014, at 07:45, Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com

Re: [Pharo-dev] First additions to GT-Inspector

2014-10-04 Thread Tudor Girba
for the tree view, right ? On 03 Oct 2014, at 22:50, Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com wrote: Yes, I like Raw. Thanks for the ping:). Anyone against Raw? Cheers, Doru On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 10:36 PM, stepharo steph...@free.fr wrote: Would it be possible to have 'raw' instead

Re: [Pharo-dev] gt issues

2014-10-04 Thread Tudor Girba
Ok. This is already on the roadmap, but opening an issue would not hurt :). Cheers, Doru On Sat, Oct 4, 2014 at 9:25 AM, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote: On 04 Oct 2014, at 09:20, Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com wrote: If I understand correctly, you would want a way to close

Re: [Pharo-dev] About ways to participate in community and general negativity

2014-10-04 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi, On Sat, Oct 4, 2014 at 8:34 AM, Thierry Goubier thierry.goub...@gmail.com wrote: Le 04/10/2014 08:14, Tudor Girba a écrit : Hi Thierry, On Sat, Oct 4, 2014 at 12:03 AM, Thierry Goubier thierry.goub...@gmail.com mailto:thierry.goub...@gmail.com wrote: [...] And now, to make

Re: [Pharo-dev] gt issues

2014-10-04 Thread Tudor Girba
be happy if someone would like to experiment with integrating the Help system with Pillar. Doru On Sat, Oct 4, 2014 at 10:20 AM, Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com wrote: If I understand correctly, you would want a way to close panes. Correct? Doru On Sat, Oct 4, 2014 at 9:07 AM, Esteban

Re: [Pharo-dev] Seconds set of additions to GT-Inspector

2014-10-04 Thread Tudor Girba
Great! Just a note: just in case you are not already doing it, you should try extending the inspector from within the Meta tab of the inspector. It's quite nice to see the preview live (given that self is bound). Cheers, Doru On Sat, Oct 4, 2014 at 8:48 PM, stepharo steph...@free.fr wrote:

Re: [Pharo-dev] GT first impressions

2014-10-04 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi Hernán, Thanks for the feedback. Just a question: Was there anything you do like? :) The rest of the reply is inline. On Sat, Oct 4, 2014 at 10:10 PM, Hernán Morales Durand hernan.mora...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry if following issues were reported. I have seen so many mails about GT that I

Re: [Pharo-dev] About ways to participate in community and general negativity

2014-10-04 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi Thierry, On Sat, Oct 4, 2014 at 6:49 PM, Thierry Goubier thierry.goub...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Le 04/10/2014 11:54, Tudor Girba a écrit : And now you are starting to have the issue of handling slices on GT from Pharo: do people have to register on Moose, resynchronize on GT

Re: [Pharo-dev] GT first impressions

2014-10-05 Thread Tudor Girba
Oh, I see now. Where was the fix committed? Doru On Sun, Oct 5, 2014 at 12:02 AM, Nicolai Hess nicolaih...@web.de wrote: 2014-10-04 23:13 GMT+02:00 Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com: Hi, On Sat, Oct 4, 2014 at 11:02 PM, Hernán Morales Durand hernan.mora...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Doru

Re: [Pharo-dev] Inspector steals my Window !

2014-10-05 Thread Tudor Girba
This is why the Preview should be static. For the Morph preview we simply render the form. Doru On Sun, Oct 5, 2014 at 12:32 AM, Nicolai Hess nicolaih...@web.de wrote: Inspect in playground (inspect it from menu or with the play-icon): |t| t:=TextModel new. t title:'Test'. t openWithSpec

Re: [Pharo-dev] GT first impressions

2014-10-05 Thread Tudor Girba
, at 22:43, Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com wrote: Hi Hernán, Thanks for the feedback. Just a question: Was there anything you do like? :) The rest of the reply is inline. On Sat, Oct 4, 2014 at 10:10 PM, Hernán Morales Durand hernan.mora...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry if following issues were

Re: [Pharo-dev] GT first impressions

2014-10-05 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi, On Sun, Oct 5, 2014 at 10:04 AM, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com wrote: On 05 Oct 2014, at 09:55, Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com wrote: Hi, On Sun, Oct 5, 2014 at 9:40 AM, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com wrote: On 05 Oct 2014, at 08:43, stepharo steph...@free.fr wrote

Re: [Pharo-dev] Inspector steals my Window !

2014-10-05 Thread Tudor Girba
Morph objects, and not Spec or Glamour ones. On Sun, Oct 5, 2014 at 8:16 AM, Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com wrote: This is why the Preview should be static. For the Morph preview we simply render the form. Doru On Sun, Oct 5, 2014 at 12:32 AM, Nicolai Hess nicolaih...@web.de wrote

Re: [Pharo-dev] GT first impressions

2014-10-05 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi, My remark was not meant to be derogative. If it came out like this, I apologize. I simply stated what my assumption was. You prove to refute my assumption (at least for your specific case). Cheers, Doru On Sun, Oct 5, 2014 at 1:35 PM, kmo vox...@gmail.com wrote: I don't even use

Re: [Pharo-dev] GT first impressions

2014-10-05 Thread Tudor Girba
Ok :) Doru On Sun, Oct 5, 2014 at 2:45 PM, kmo vox...@gmail.com wrote: Doru - Don't take me too seriously. There was no offence. -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/GT-first-impressions-tp4782636p4782721.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list

Re: [Pharo-dev] [GT] seeing morph **And** textpane

2014-10-05 Thread Tudor Girba
Indeed, this is something I would like since quite a while. Of course, we could add the evaluator at the bottom of everything (I tried that), but this will take away from the interaction and make up for an ugly UI. What I would want is a kind of a pane that appears/disappears on demand. We still

Re: [Pharo-dev] structuring widget examples

2014-10-05 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi Stef, Great. GT is already prepared for this :). If you define a gtExample on the class side, you will get an E.g. tab with those examples. It's called gtExample because we did not want to interfere with other pragmas, but perhaps we can change it to eg, or example. What do you think?

Re: [Pharo-dev] gt issues

2014-10-05 Thread Tudor Girba
Indeed. But just having a good contrast solves the problem quite well, I believe, because it is gets more easily noticeable. Cheers, Doru On Sun, Oct 5, 2014 at 3:37 PM, Ben Coman b...@openinworld.com wrote: kmo wrote: I've raised two issues on the GT playground:

Re: [Pharo-dev] GT first impressions

2014-10-05 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi, On Sun, Oct 5, 2014 at 5:38 PM, Ben Coman b...@openinworld.com wrote: Tudor Girba wrote: Hi Esteban, I know it's a usability principle, but usability should also take into account culture. Programmers are not every-day users, and the assumptions we take should adapt to their needs

Re: [Pharo-dev] structuring widget examples

2014-10-05 Thread Tudor Girba
. Is that Ok? Cheers, Doru [image: Inline image 1] On Sun, Oct 5, 2014 at 5:58 PM, stepharo steph...@free.fr wrote: On 5/10/14 15:10, Tudor Girba wrote: Hi Stef, Great. GT is already prepared for this :). If you define a gtExample on the class side, you will get an E.g. tab with those

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] flow: a living full-stack #‎framework for the web

2014-10-05 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi Sebastian, Interesting. Is there a relation between flow and Tide? Cheers, Doru On Sun, Oct 5, 2014 at 11:04 PM, Sebastian Sastre sebast...@flowingconcept.com wrote: Hi guys, I’m sharing slides of my presentation at CampSmalltalkVI2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] gt issues

2014-10-05 Thread Tudor Girba
a couple times. Also, I miss the run to here option that was in the debuggers before. It looks like gone. Why? It is a common option in all languages. Phil On Sat, Oct 4, 2014 at 10:56 PM, Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com wrote: Hi, Thanks for the feedback. Of course, they are not used

Re: [Pharo-dev] How to edit GT-Inspector State Variable Values in place ?

2014-10-06 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi, This is not yet supported due to the UI. I wanted to get an in-place editor, but we did not get to it. We can add a dialog for the time being. Cheers, Doru On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 9:08 AM, p...@highoctane.be p...@highoctane.be wrote: Didn't even noticed it but yeah, very useful indeed,

Re: [Pharo-dev] GT-Inspector silly titles

2014-10-06 Thread Tudor Girba
if it is already present. On 06 Oct 2014, at 13:33, Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com wrote: Hi, Yes, the label does introduce redundancy in some cases, but that is because the use of printString has to be rethought :) printString was used for a long time as a primary inspection tool

Re: [Pharo-dev] Font Theming of GT 'composite rubricText' is weird

2014-10-06 Thread Tudor Girba
Indeed. This looks like a bug. Could you open an issue? Doru On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 4:34 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote: The font and theme rendering of GT 'composite rubricText' (like when inspecting Strings) is a bit off, IMHO: The font is different, does not appear in the

Re: [Pharo-dev] WhatsUp from: 2014-10-06 until: 2014-10-19

2014-10-06 Thread Tudor Girba
Nice. Still, my question remains: how does it compare with Tide? Or better yet, would you not be interested in collaborating around Tide? Cheers, Doru On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 5:56 PM, Sebastian Sastre sebast...@flowingconcept.com wrote: - I’ve realized that this email was a social media done

Re: [Pharo-dev] GT-Inspector presentations for Core Zn objects

2014-10-06 Thread Tudor Girba
It seems you got the hang of it :). Still my question: are you developing these extension from within the inspector? Cheers, Doru On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 4:23 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote: Name: GT-InspectorExtensions-Core-SvenVanCaekenberghe.65 Author: SvenVanCaekenberghe

Re: [Pharo-dev] GT-Inspector presentations for Core Zn objects

2014-10-06 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi, On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 11:11 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote: On 06 Oct 2014, at 20:21, Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com wrote: It seems you got the hang of it :). Yeah, I also see that much more is possible, but my UI skills are limited. Still my question: are you

Re: [Pharo-dev] GT-Inspectors need live updating

2014-10-06 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi, Indeed. Not having live update by default was a conscious decision because we did not find a solution that scales properly both for several inspectors and for heavy computations of presentations. It would be great if someone could propose a way to go. Cheers, Doru On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at

Re: [Pharo-dev] GT-Inspectors need live updating

2014-10-06 Thread Tudor Girba
, no way around it. On 06 Oct 2014, at 23:18, Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com wrote: Hi, Indeed. Not having live update by default was a conscious decision because we did not find a solution that scales properly both for several inspectors and for heavy computations of presentations

Re: [Pharo-dev] gt issues

2014-10-06 Thread Tudor Girba
another solution. I believe for this case, we could simply use a kind of a clipboard for objects that can be inspected at a later time. Cheers, Doru On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 2:42 PM, Christophe Demarey christophe.dema...@inria.fr wrote: Hello, Le 4 oct. 2014 à 11:51, Tudor Girba a écrit : Pharo

Re: [Pharo-dev] GT-Inspectors need live updating

2014-10-06 Thread Tudor Girba
presentations, I sense that some performance issue will come up, I just decided to ignore them for now. We should prototype a bit :) Cheers, Doru On 06 Oct 2014, at 23:29, Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com wrote: Hi, I want that, too. But, the problem is that having it generically

Re: [Pharo-dev] GT-Inspectors need live updating

2014-10-06 Thread Tudor Girba
My argument was that if you redraw this several times, it will make it even more apparent. Doru On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 6:54 AM, Thierry Goubier thierry.goub...@gmail.com wrote: Le 06/10/2014 23:35, Sven Van Caekenberghe a écrit : I understand, but even with those impressive graphical views,

Re: [Pharo-dev] GT-Inspectors need live updating

2014-10-06 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi, No. Tabs are lazy. Doru On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 7:00 AM, Thierry Goubier thierry.goub...@gmail.com wrote: Le 07/10/2014 06:57, Tudor Girba a écrit : My argument was that if you redraw this several times, it will make it even more apparent. Obviously. Does the representation

Re: [Pharo-dev] GT-Inspector silly titles

2014-10-07 Thread Tudor Girba
we do not introduce displayString as suggested long time ago and default displayString to printString? Stef On 6/10/14 13:33, Tudor Girba wrote: Hi, Yes, the label does introduce redundancy in some cases, but that is because the use of printString has to be rethought :) printString

Re: [Pharo-dev] WhatsUp from: 2014-10-06 until: 2014-10-19

2014-10-07 Thread Tudor Girba
I mean, thank you for comparing the two. The work on Tide belongs to Esteban and Nicolas :) Cheers, Doru On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 11:46 AM, Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com wrote: Thank you! Please let us know what you find. Doru On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 11:42 AM, S Krish

Re: [Pharo-dev] WhatsUp from: 2014-10-06 until: 2014-10-19

2014-10-07 Thread Tudor Girba
Thank you! Please let us know what you find. Doru On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 11:42 AM, S Krish krishnamachari.sudha...@gmail.com wrote: Tide is quite complete.. !!.. Didnt notice it at all. Will try it out / perhaps compare it too to Flow. On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 11:23 PM, Tudor Girba tu

Re: [Pharo-dev] Assigning to Block and Method arguments

2014-10-07 Thread Tudor Girba
Indeed, I like this approach. Nicely done. Doru On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 9:11 PM, stepharo steph...@free.fr wrote: This sounds like a good strategy this difference between interactive and loading time. On 7/10/14 18:25, Marcus Denker wrote: Hi, In Pharo3 we had the bug that assigning to

Re: [Pharo-dev] FOSDEM Looks like there is a Smalltalk room :)

2014-10-07 Thread Tudor Girba
Thanks. Doru On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 10:50 PM, Stephan Eggermont step...@stack.nl wrote: Yes, I'll put the CFP out soon. Stephan -- www.tudorgirba.com Every thing has its own flow

Re: [Pharo-dev] logCr and friends, why deprecation in 30?²

2014-10-12 Thread Tudor Girba
Yes :) Doru On Sun, Oct 12, 2014 at 2:15 PM, stepharo steph...@free.fr wrote: In fact the concept of Cr is doomed. I will restart to work on SystemLogger and unify it with Beacon and we will just log objects. No Cr (text concept, string concept, ... perl grep

Re: [Pharo-dev] Artefact documentation is now in english

2014-10-12 Thread Tudor Girba
Thanks! Doru On Sun, Oct 12, 2014 at 7:36 PM, stepharo steph...@free.fr wrote: Hi guys I finished the translation of the chapter on Artefact the pdf generator library developed by O. Auverlot and G. Larcheveque. https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/PharoForTheEnterprise/

Re: [Pharo-dev] BlockClosure source code

2014-10-14 Thread Tudor Girba
I love these little things. This is a great example of how value should not be confused with cost. Small can be quite big after all :) Doru On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 4:46 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote: Very nice !! On 14 Oct 2014, at 16:42, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr

[Pharo-dev] creating custom browsers out of GTInspector extensions

2014-10-14 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi, Now, that more people are playing with the GTInspector, I would like to raise another point that might otherwise go unnoticed: The inspector extensions do not only work in the inspector, but can also be combined in other browsers as well. For example, the attached picture shows a Pillar

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Screencast] Using ZnLogEvents and GT Tools to look at HTTP traffic behind Monticello

2014-10-15 Thread Tudor Girba
Nice! :) Doru On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 3:55 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote: Using ZnLogEvents and GT Tools to look at HTTP traffic behind Monticello. I love it when a plan comes together. Many small usability changes were added to GT Tools since they were included in Pharo 4.

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo4] Inspector View for Opal Scopes

2014-10-16 Thread Tudor Girba
Keep the goodies coming :) Doru On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 4:04 PM, Clara Allende clari.alle...@gmail.com wrote: I love it :) Thanks ^^ 2014-10-16 15:39 GMT+02:00 Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr: Hi, There is now a special view for semantic scopes in Opal: And these tools work

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo4] Inspector View for Opal Scopes

2014-10-16 Thread Tudor Girba
the potential of giving terrific boosts to the development speed. It does for me! Indeed :) Doru Phil On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 4:21 PM, Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com wrote: Keep the goodies coming :) Doru On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 4:04 PM, Clara Allende clari.alle...@gmail.com

Re: [Pharo-dev] Playground and its current usability in Pharo4.0 Latest update: #40307

2014-10-16 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi Torsten, Thanks for the feedback. On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 11:22 AM, Torsten Bergmann asta...@gmx.de wrote: While I like that GTTools are in Pharo 4 now (thanks!!!) and allow all kind of neat things I basically ask myself if we forgot to remember usability on a few places: 1. the world

Re: [Pharo-dev] Playground and its current usability in Pharo4.0 Latest update: #40307

2014-10-16 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi, I do not quite understand this point of view. If you do not use Go, there is no right side. What do you mean by CLI? Cheers, Doru On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 9:01 PM, p...@highoctane.be p...@highoctane.be wrote: I'd like to have the old workspace as it is for quick commands and as a kind of

Re: [Pharo-dev] Playground and its current usability in Pharo4.0 Latest update: #40307

2014-10-16 Thread Tudor Girba
of needing to insert the result of print it warrants a shortcut that can be so easily use (i.e., Enter can be used also for adding a line). Right now, if you want to insert, you do Cmd+c, Esc, Cmd+v. Cheers, Doru 2014-10-16 21:36 GMT+02:00 Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com: Hi, I do

Re: [Pharo-dev] Playground and its current usability in Pharo4.0 Latest update: #40307

2014-10-16 Thread Tudor Girba
is still selected. Most of the time I want to go on typing, but first I have to unselect the code. Suggestions: on Esc close the popup and unselect the current selection on Enter insert the printIt-result. 2014-10-16 21:36 GMT+02:00 Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com: Hi, I do not quite

Re: [Pharo-dev] Playground and its current usability in Pharo4.0 Latest update: #40307

2014-10-16 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi, On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 10:58 PM, Torsten Bergmann asta...@gmx.de wrote: Tudor wrote: Indeed. This was a discussion I wanted to spawn as well. I would prefer to change the name from Workspace to Playground in the World Menu. The reason is that the Playground is such a distinct departure

Re: [Pharo-dev] CompiledMethodhash can produce clashes

2014-10-17 Thread Tudor Girba
But why is Set being affected by hash? Hash is never guaranteed to be unique. Set should be affected by equality. Doru On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 9:34 AM, Max Leske maxle...@gmail.com wrote: On 17.10.2014, at 02:46, Ben Coman b...@openinworld.com wrote: Richard Sargent wrote: Eliot Miranda-2

Re: [Pharo-dev] CompiledMethodhash can produce clashes

2014-10-17 Thread Tudor Girba
, 2014 at 9:52 AM, Max Leske maxle...@gmail.com wrote: On 17.10.2014, at 09:37, Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com wrote: But why is Set being affected by hash? Hash is never guaranteed to be unique. Set should be affected by equality. Well, actually it’s both #hash and #=. First the set

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] [Ann] Phratch 4.0

2014-10-17 Thread Tudor Girba
This is a great addition to the Pharo ecosystem. Thank you very much! Doru On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 11:48 AM, jannik laval jannik.la...@gmail.com wrote: Phratch 4.0 is out of the box ! Phratch 4.0 is cleaner, faster and more stable than phratch 3.0. After the version 3.0 that was a release

[Pharo-dev] pharo works fine on yosemite

2014-10-19 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi, I just installed OS X Yosemite (10.10), and it looks like Pharo works just fine. Cheers, Doru -- www.tudorgirba.com Every thing has its own flow

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] new Pharo Success story

2014-10-20 Thread Tudor Girba
+100 Doru On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 11:41 AM, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote: On 19 Oct 2014, at 09:44, stepharo steph...@free.fr wrote: Hi we just published a new success story: Pharo at CSOB http://pharo.org/success And yes we are interested in your sucess

Re: [Pharo-dev] Clickable class side example and initialize methods in Pharo 4.0

2014-10-22 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi Torsten, Thanks for this. This is indeed the way to go. Just to let you know, the example infrastructure is also being developed in the context of GT, so we have a healthy interest overlap which is great. Only in our case, the discovery of the example happens through an example pragma. Would

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo4] inspector shows the ASTNode that generated a Bytecode

2014-10-22 Thread Tudor Girba
You are really getting the hang of this, don't you? :) Doru On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 10:40 AM, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: Small extension: This way one can quickly see which AST node the system thinks corresponds to which byte code. I added this for Bytecodes and the Opal

Re: [Pharo-dev] Clickable class side example and initialize methods in Pharo 4.0

2014-10-23 Thread Tudor Girba
Yes. That is certainly a wished feature. Doru On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 7:44 AM, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote: On 23 Oct 2014, at 05:32, Sean P. DeNigris s...@clipperadams.com wrote: Torsten Bergmann wrote One addition I implemented for Nautilus is that one can run examples

Re: [Pharo-dev] Run Spur run!!

2014-10-23 Thread Tudor Girba
This is amazing. If we add to it that we will be able to have significantly larger images ... dreaming ... :) Doru On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 9:47 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote: Nice indeed. Thanks for keeping us all the loop, Max, and for all your work as well. Looking forward

Re: [Pharo-dev] Thank you so much for Pharo 3.0

2014-10-24 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi, Thanks everyone for making this happen. It's great to hear this kind of reports from real life projects. I am sure that Pharo 4 will be even better! Cheers, Doru On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 3:03 PM, Gastón Dall' Oglio gaston.dallog...@gmail.com wrote: No more to say, a big big THANK YOU

[Pharo-dev] [ANN] new GT features: disk memory, ws.stfx.eu sharing, closeable panes and others

2014-10-24 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi, We are quite actively working on GT. First of all, thanks everyone for the feedback. We take it quite seriously and we do our best to take it into account. Please keep the discussions flowing. I summarized some of the things that happened recently in the playground and inspector here:

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] new GT features: disk memory, ws.stfx.eu sharing, closeable panes and others

2014-10-25 Thread Tudor Girba
of Alain? Stef On 25/10/14 06:19, Tudor Girba wrote: Hi, We are quite actively working on GT. First of all, thanks everyone for the feedback. We take it quite seriously and we do our best to take it into account. Please keep the discussions flowing. I summarized some of the things

Re: [Pharo-dev] Shout is strange with GT

2014-10-25 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi, There is no difference between the Shout in Rubric and the one in Nautilus. Could you give us the complete text you are typing? Cheers, Doru On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 8:30 AM, stepharo steph...@free.fr wrote: this is strange if I type tr - italized tr tra - red plain while there

Re: [Pharo-dev] Experience makers

2014-10-27 Thread Tudor Girba
Thanks Stef for this proposal! This is definitely the way we should go. Doru On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 1:13 PM, stepharo steph...@free.fr wrote: Dear experience makers (Martin, yuriy, tommaso, roberto and others,) you would like to have many people doing your experience I know you would

Re: [Pharo-dev] convention for examples?

2014-10-27 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi, We should support: example: 'Title' example (in this case, the name is by default derived from the method selector) Cheers, Doru On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 2:16 PM, Andrei Chis chisvasileand...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Stef, I renamed the pragmas that we used in the inspector to example and

Re: [Pharo-dev] Should literals be immutable ?

2014-10-27 Thread Tudor Girba
Talking about 4 am, you should also watch the coolest talk about it: http://www.ted.com/talks/rives_on_4_a_m And a beautiful follow up: http://www.ted.com/talks/rives_a_museum_of_4_o_clock_in_the_morning Cheers, Doru On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 5:13 PM, Eliot Miranda eliot.mira...@gmail.com

Re: [Pharo-dev] Roassal2 in Pharo GTInspector

2014-10-29 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi, You should load the default group of the ConfigurationOfGTInspector. This will load Roassal2, the binding with Glamour and the inspector extensions that use Roassal2. Cheers, Doru On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 11:31 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk yuriy.tymc...@me.com wrote: Hi, What should I do to be able

Re: [Pharo-dev] AioPlugin is back in linux VMs

2014-10-29 Thread Tudor Girba
On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com wrote: You do not have to see it, is an internal plugin. Is like the sun, even if you do not see it he is there :P Is this what you tell yourself during the Lille autumn days? :) Doru On 29 Oct 2014, at 15:43,

Re: [Pharo-dev] Roassal2 in Pharo GTInspector

2014-10-29 Thread Tudor Girba
there is no such class as: GLMTabSelectorBrick. Uko On 29 Oct 2014, at 13:07, Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com wrote: Hi, You should load the default group of the ConfigurationOfGTInspector. This will load Roassal2, the binding with Glamour and the inspector extensions that use Roassal2. Cheers, Doru

Re: [Pharo-dev] Trouble while defining a customized tab in GT inspector

2014-11-01 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi, Sorry for the late reply. Indeed the ObjectVariablesBrowser does not work with another object then the one of the tab. If you want to define a custom tab, you should simply create a table with the desired variables. For example, take a look at MorphgtInspectorMorphExtensionIn:. This one

Re: [Pharo-dev] Dealing with very large files

2014-11-04 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi Alex, What is the scenario exacty? What do you mean by navigate? Is it enough to open a stream and traverse the stream? Doru On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 2:19 PM, Nicolai Hess nicolaih...@web.de wrote: 2014-11-04 13:59 GMT+01:00 Alexandre Bergel alexandre.ber...@me.com: Hi! A question just

Re: [Pharo-dev] Browse anObject?

2014-11-04 Thread Tudor Girba
I agree. Doru On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 7:20 PM, Sean P. DeNigris s...@clipperadams.com wrote: This one smells funny to me... Object#browse ^ self systemNavigation browseClass: self class A less surprising API might be: - Object#browseClass - and, Class#browse as implemented above

Re: [Pharo-dev] playground history

2014-11-07 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi, It is there only if you have a history. Why should this be an issue? Doru -- www.tudorgirba.com Every thing has its own flow On 07 Nov 2014, at 16:45, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: On 07 Nov 2014, at 15:04, Christophe Demarey christophe.dema...@inria.fr wrote: In

Re: [Pharo-dev] edit values in GTInspector

2014-11-07 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi Sven, Neither of these requests are being ignored (see the other two replies), but good things take time. We would be happy to get more contributors :). Doru -- www.tudorgirba.com Every thing has its own flow On 07 Nov 2014, at 19:31, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote: It

Re: [Pharo-dev] Should Nautilus use Rubric?

2014-11-07 Thread Tudor Girba
Indeed. Really great! Doru -- www.tudorgirba.com Every thing has its own flow On 07 Nov 2014, at 18:23, Juraj Kubelka juraj.kube...@gmail.com wrote: This is the great news! Thanks! Juraj On Nov 7, 2014, at 10:52 AM, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com wrote: Actually, I’m

Re: [Pharo-dev] edit values in GTInspector

2014-11-07 Thread Tudor Girba
What Alex was saying is that he only trusts an inspector that he just opened. This is clearly not ideal. Is there a way to get reliably notified when an object changes its state? Cheers, Doru On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 7:37 AM, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: On 07 Nov 2014, at

Re: [Pharo-dev] Should Nautilus use Rubric?

2014-11-08 Thread Tudor Girba
TxText will become on top of my todo list starting with December or January. Cheers, Doru On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 9:15 AM, stepharo steph...@free.fr wrote: And we will need help. Reading examples, trying and asking questions. Stef Indeed. Really great! Doru -- www.tudorgirba.com

Re: [Pharo-dev] edit values in GTInspector

2014-11-08 Thread Tudor Girba
dynamic. On 8/11/14 08:28, Tudor Girba wrote: What Alex was saying is that he only trusts an inspector that he just opened. This is clearly not ideal. Is there a way to get reliably notified when an object changes its state? Cheers, Doru On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 7:37 AM, Marcus Denker

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