Two comments:
(1) there needs to be a way to unregister interest;
(2) the registrations need to be weak so that (1) is largely optional.
If Dolphin has a weakness, it is that failure of an MVP triad to open can leave
the system in a confused state. Morphic appears to be a little more robu
Two comments:
(1) there needs to be a way to unregister interest;
(2) the registrations need to be weak so that (1) is largely optional.
If Dolphin has a weakness, it is that failure of an MVP triad to open can leave
the system in a confused state. Morphic appears to be a little more robu
Dolphin's approach to this type of thing would be to use its ListModel as the
collection; adding and removing elements triggers events that help the
presenters and views connected to it to update (presumably efficiently).
From: pharo-project-boun...@
From: pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr
[pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Sven Van
Caekenberghe [s...@beta9.be]
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 9:36 AM
To: Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Socket question (Was Re: Xtreams up to date)
On 14 Jan 2011,
I am really bothered by the timeout on the accept, so much so that I think it
has no place in the tests. Of course, one needs a way to clean up after a
failure, but that should be done by another thread that waits for a "long" time
and then cleans up anything that is left behind after the failu
+1
From: pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr
[pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Mariano Martinez
Peck [marianop...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2011 11:41 AM
To: Pharo Development
Subject: [Pharo-project] Changes
Stef,
True. But it also got caught, perhaps because it was where it had no business
being. The great thing about configurations and Hudson is that the server will
build multiple artifacts. I think among them should be some bloated images for
reasons just like this. The core and a leaner dev
I think the Hudson server should be so brave. We can dump the latest of
everything into an image in the hopes that people will test it - probably a
good gamble.
Another thing that has forced/will force uniformity (or at least detect lack of
it) is the configuration browser. The load-latest co
I just downloaded the latest (#62) one click 1.2 and did the usual things:
(1) turn off autocompletion
(2) select win2k, enable fast drag
(3) open a workspace, disable syntax highlighting
I think Shout is the wonderful; it is very helpful in browsers and the
debugger; I shut it off in workspaces
Attached is some code I wrote a while ago based on advice that ConnectionQueue
and SocketStream are correct starting points. I am a big believer that network
code should do what it is told until it told to stop; timeouts should be in the
hands of the user, application programmer or server admin
Stuff you probably just didn't bother to write in detail: you would either
rename the image and changes or edit the shell script to run the desired image.
I'm pretty sure I have done both to one-click installations, though it was
"long" before Cog. As long as the image has the Cog changes inst
Stef,
I'm not sure I follow. I think we agree that loading all configurations and
running tests is good. I understand why the web image went away when it took
somebody's time time build it, but the Hudson server can do that work now. It
seems reasonable to leave a range of targets that might
My concern about Metacello has always been that while it is terribly easy to
use, it is very potentially difficult to know what to ask it to do. I *think*
I have seen signs of improvement and increasing uniformity since I began
playing with 1.2. The ConfigurationBrowser probably brought the co
I would not have thought to put it there, but it's a good idea. I think there
should also be a link on the download section??
From: pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr
[pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Tudor Girba
[tud
+1 (and Hudson is a great way to build the various targets).
From: pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr
[pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Sven Van
Caekenberghe [s...@beta9.be]
Sent: Friday, January 07, 2011 5:38 AM
To: Ph
I really liked the web image of the early days and would like to see Hudson
build something similar for us. First, the servers required for loading
various packages are not always alive. Having Hudson grabbing things would:
(1) monitor the servers' health for us (if builds succeed, they are ok
+1. Someone wanting something that "just runs" can/should do something like
(MCPackage named: 'HelpSystem' ifNone:'[ DeafObject current ]) unload
Another approach is to trap and log errors so that a lengthy build process
completes and then clearly shows where it encountered problems.
Bill
Not really an answer to your question, but Dale Rogerson's Inside COM is an
excellent book (a must-have on its own) that might help with such topics. I
suspect what Alien will need to do is something similar to Apartment Threading
- maybe it already does. It has (thankfully??) been a long time
+1
From: pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr
[pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Stéphane Ducasse
[stephane.duca...@inria.fr]
Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2011 2:59 PM
To: Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Pha
m: is misleading (it derives
from #copy). What you are looking for is #allButFirst: that goes along
with #allButFirst, #allButLast:, allButLast, #first:, and #last:.
Cheers,
Lukas
On 1 January 2011 19:39, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote:
> Wow. In fairness, Dolphin has one or two such oddities. I
teFrom: to more
accurately reflect what it does, and should be used for.
So now this reply is completely redundant, since Wilhelm also suggested the
same thing, or maybe I should just stop here and write "+1" instead :-p
--
Cheers,
Peter
On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 7:39 PM, Schw
Wow. In fairness, Dolphin has one or two such oddities. IIRC, the confusion
there is that external arrays (DOUBLE, DWORD, etc.) respond to #copyFrom:to: in
terms of bytes, not elements.
The problem in this case appears to be that
'a string with some stuff in it' copyFrom:5
should blow up
Smalltalk didn't do it: Dan did it USING Smalltalk :) No argument that there
is room for improvement, but the changes in Pharo over the past couple of years
should not be ignored. For years, I beat drums that Morphic was a great
simulation environment, and that it was time for it to be used to
Stef,
I approve, provided you promise to keep it in perspective. If you are
getting another layer of expectation of how computers work, then great. If you
are allowing people with no image-based experience to discourage you, then
please try to categorize their reactions into things that they
Hopefully that can eventually be said as "backward compatibility with good
stuff is a priority for Pharo." Moving targets are perhaps best left moving
for now.
From: pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr
[pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inri
I managed to get that going several years ago in Squeak - 3.6 IIRC. I ran it
on Windows. My focus was probably more on receiving than sending?? I was able
to reach a point that notes on my piano were detected by Squeak. These things
are not high priority for Pharo, but I for one would greatl
Behalf Of Mariano Martinez
Peck [marianop...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2010 3:45 PM
To: Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr
Subject: [Pharo-project] ScriptManager [WAS] Re: recovering closed workspace
On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 7:58 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K
mailto:bsch...@anest.ufl.edu>>
oject-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr
[pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Schwab,Wilhelm K
[bsch...@anest.ufl.edu]
Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2010 1:58 PM
To: Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] recovering closed workspace
I've never really gi
s you can
save them and do what you want.
At the same time, it is not annoying in all workspaces...
cheers
mariano
On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 3:12 PM, sergio_101
mailto:sergiol...@village-buzz.com>> wrote:
On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 1:07 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K
mailto:bsch...@anest.ufl.edu>&g
3:12 PM, sergio_101
mailto:sergiol...@village-buzz.com>> wrote:
On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 1:07 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K
mailto:bsch...@anest.ufl.edu>> wrote:
> Not a perfect solution, but have you tried simply saving the text to a file?
>
yes.. i was just hoping for something a little
Not a perfect solution, but have you tried simply saving the text to a file?
From: pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr
[pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of sergio_101
[sergio@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2010
With all the trouble over this with time, it seemed reasonable to try to
trigger it while I had the one-click in front of me. I have the one-click 1.2
from the Hudson server (#42??) running on Ubuntu 10.4. So far, I have not been
able to trigger it by creating a package and saving another. Is
Elliot,
This sounds similar to something that was happening in OB(??) a while back.
IIRC, looking for implementors of offending method made it reasonably clear
whether it was expected to answer true or false and then I simply added that to
the obvious receiver and it worked.
Look for the debu
I can't speak to that, but the callouts of Alien have been at best damned by
faint praise; FFI's weakness in callbacks is clear, so an enhancement of FFI
with Alien's acknowledged strengths seems like a natural approach. Hopefully
the handling of structure fields will improve at the same time.
Not icons either, but you might like
http://weeklysqueak.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/3d_cogs.jpg
http://www.mirandabanda.org/images/LooneyCogSketchSolidSmall.gif
The GIMP should be willing to create an icon, but there are probably color
depth and size restrictions to think about.
Stef,
Very true, #on:do: is not syntax, BUT, it looks that way to the casual
observer, which might be the point of the question. If I decide that it really
should be #on:DO:, I can make that addition in seconds. {} involves changing
the compiler, right? Yes, it can be done, but it requires m
.fr
Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Mars, stuck on callbacks (again)... need
opinions
Hi Bill,
Yes, Alien already support callbacks... maybe you can try it instead
recompiling every time :)
Cheers,
Esteban
El 23/12/2010, a las 6:22p.m., Schwab,Wilhelm K escribió:
> Esteban,
>
> FW(
Esteban,
FW(very little)IW, my first reaction as I started reading was "has he thought
about native boost or alien?" Callbacks have been in a
possible-but-not-supported state for a long time. I believe Eliot recently
mentioned callbacks in FFI, so it seems to be an idea that is solidifying.
In fairness to the blogger, it is not a stretch to go from Alan Kay's
involvement in Squeak's origins to it's having started for the educational
benefit of children. Early education has been a major focus of Alan's career.
He probably WAS thinking "damn, this could be the dynabook that we woul
Stef,
I *think* Google Scholar is in the wrong here, but I'll mention it just in
case. I've tried to paste the controversial entry below, but in case it gets
corrupted in transfer, it is the third hit on Google Scholar with
surface tension inclined tube stability Dumitrescu
@article{couët
I mostly use PipeableOSProcess, exclusively on Linux, and found it broken on
1.1. I ended up hacking FileDirectory>>fileExists: to answer true to '/bin/sh'
and all was well. It is fixed in 1.1.1.
Bill
From: pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr
Stef,
Do you mean better than VW or Pharo? Dolphin is damn good; the problem there
is Windows itself. On technical grounds, VW is excellent. Its feature set is
bigger than Dolphin's, and so is its price tag. When I first started getting
very concerned about Microsoft's whims knocking me out
Sig,
Packages would be nice, but I think a more important goal is to get the vm to
describe error conditions. If it did that reliably, I would have been
completely content to unzip a binary and write a shell script, or just use a
one-click image. Of the things that are under reported, the mos
: [Pharo-project] [Hudson] 1.2 build
On Dec 16, 2010, at 10:03 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote:
> ok, I'm sold. Do you have a plan to advertise the Hudson server on the
> download page?
Yes, I think as "daily build".
So we have
1. Release
2. Latest unstable.
Noting that this is described as a protocol, I started to ask what any
transport might be, and whether that could be abused??? Lots of dead links, so
it was not clear whether this involves sockets. All I found so far is what
looks like a way to format test results, which sounds harmless and p
rsday, December 16, 2010 3:23 PM
To: Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] [Hudson] 1.2 build
On Dec 16, 2010, at 9:12 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote:
> Marcus,
>
> What about an archive of previous releases?
Yes, of course. We will continue to use gforge for kee
: Thursday, December 16, 2010 1:20 PM
To: Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr Development
Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] [Hudson] 1.2 build
On Dec 16, 2010, at 7:17 PM, Marcus Denker wrote:
>
> On Dec 16, 2010, at 7:06 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote:
>
>> Is the server building 1.1 or 1
Is the server building 1.1 or 1.1.1?
From: pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr
[pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Marcus Denker
[marcus.den...@inria.fr]
Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 12:55 PM
To: Pharo-project@lists.gf
Friedrich,
I am having some success, but named ports are broken. The attached is a
fileout of my current SerialPort class. Give it a try and let me know how it
goes.
On Windows, you should find that COM1, COM2, etc. will work. Expect problems
with COM10 and up; you will likely need to use s
Another thing to try: do all of the looping, image loading etc. in the
background process, but queue the actual change of the background image as a
deferred action (#addDeferredUIMessage:).
From: pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr
[pharo-proje
It has certainly been well-known to be potentially disastrous in Dolphin.
From: pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr
[pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Mariano Martinez
Peck [marianop...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, December 1
Mariano,
SmallInteger is handled as (in Dolphin parlance) as an immediate object,
meaning that they are encoded entirely in the object pointer; as such, they
can't have instance variables. Object cannot have ivs either, because it has
subclasses that are so constrained.
Bill
___
?
Thanks for the answers. That should do.
Cheers,
Max
On 13.12.2010, at 09:54, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
> Guys
>
> we should create a nice documentation for the OSProcess please please spend
> some time on the collabactive book because we need more documentation.
>
> Stef
>
&
OSProcess, which I am learning to like more as I learn more about it, is not
well supported on Windows. Dave recently advised me to use ProcessWrapper on
Windows; if he is saying that, then it must be the better path for now.
I have done FFI on both Windows and Linux. I have not (yet anyway) d
The Smalltalk world is lucky that INRIA is supporting us. Sig got the
resulting job on merit.
From: pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr
[pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Sven Van
Caekenberghe [s...@beta9.be]
Sent: Sun
+1 on thanks to INRIA and congratulations to Igor. One suggestion I'd like to
add: while he is cleaning the VM code, it would be nice to work toward having a
path for information on failures to reach the outside world in some way. Can't
load a library? Where did you look for it? We can't ant
What about
www.cnn.com asUrl = ( 'cnn.com' asUrl )?
I'm not sure what the right answer to that is - sorry.
From: pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr
[pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Cédrick Béler
[cdric...@gmail.com
Stef,
One approach might be to remove all direct accesses to the variable, and then
arrange a (probably sub-optimal) temporary way to access through the existing
receivers but with it in its new home. Then arrange to send the messages to
the new intended recipient. Easier said than done, but
Torsten,
I can just shove it out there, but I would feel better if someone else would
try it and report on success/failure or good/bad opinions of it. Beyond that,
the question is whether anyone cares about enumerating tables and fields? If
there is interest, it is worth talking about what mi
Torsten,
Please have a look at
http://www.squeaksource.com/PharoInbox/DolphinCompatibility-ODBC-BillSchwab.3.mcz
It adds a few methods that I missed (one could argue that I should package some
of this separately) and gives access to table and field names.
Bill
__
I have generally been able to connect to things. The ODBC package works quite
well. We have some room to grow with handling of structure fields (Dolphin
does a really nice job of it). Dolphin also leads Squeak/Pharo in being able
to make calls on separate OS threads (which can be VERY useful)
Gary,
Seeing that code reminds me of something in my backup system. My move to Linux
was not complete without it, and Pharo plus OS Process does the job fairly
well. One quirk involves spaces and ()[] in file names; there are probably
others I have yet to find. For the cp command, I look for
As a possible workaround, an offending package might load on a Mac or Linux
system. Some time back, I encountered a package (an older version of RIO) that
was broken on Windows, but I was able to install it on Linux, fix the Windows
code there, and then it worked.
It's better to fix the real p
Just out of curiosity, I went directly to
Debugger allInstances size
and got zero :) This is in a far from fresh 1.1.1 image. I do not use
eCompletion or AutoTest.
Bill
From: pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr
[pharo-project-boun...@list
Stef,
IMHO, before we take such a stance, we should have a package comment pane and
encourage its use. A complex package is probably best documented with a good
high-level description and some type of example(s), which can take the form of
do-its in a package comment.
A package comment coul
Of Stéphane Ducasse
[stephane.duca...@inria.fr]
Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2010 10:21 AM
To: Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Parsing and navigating Html
no just some applications I do not control. :)
On Dec 5, 2010, at 3:21 AM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote:
> S
Stef,
I was trying to create a SampledSound from floating point data ("digitized" to
signed words) and then save a WAV file using #storeWAVOnFileNamed:. Attempts
to play the results on Ubuntu fail with a gstream error. I am wondering if the
code might be promising compression and not deliveri
Stef,
Are the html pages produced under your control? I ask because a lot of html on
the net is potentially mal-formed, which is reportedly a big source of trouble
for creators of web browsers.
Bill
From: pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr
Dave,
Does that mean that PipeableOSProcess can load w/o MVC support? That would be
great!
You've just reminded me that there is a Windows plugin - for a long time, I
thought it was necessary to use ProcessWrapper there. I don't have much need
for piping on Windows, but one never knows when
A possible wrinkle: what about using Linux to write a file for a Windows user?
From: pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr
[pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Stefan Marr
[ph...@stefan-marr.de]
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 20
Dave,
I'm starting to see the dilemma. One thing that might help is a super-sending
#close in PipeableOSProcess that is mostly comment on how to choose wisely?
Thanks!
Bill
Dave,
FWIW, I also ran into this one:
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.smalltalk.squeak.general/121000/match=cannot+create+os+pipe
Is there a time when a user/programmer would want to send #close rather than
#closePipes? Perhaps #close could become #basicClose with #close then being
But by iterating over all small integers, are you not "instantiating" ones that
were not in use? Dr. Heisenberg will get a good grin out this one :)
From: pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr
[pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behal
Mariano,
Dumb question: what file system is in use? I sometimes get surprised with case
insensitivity on Linux when using shared media with Microsoft file systems.
From the looks of things, that is probably _not_ your problem, but it's worth
ruling out.
Bill
Mariano,
I see your point, but given the immediate object encoding tricks I'm not sure
it's possible. Would the class methods #minVal and #maxVal be of any use to
you?
Bill
From: pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr
[pharo-project-boun...@list
Guido,
I have at times opened files in binary mode to avoid encoding hassles. That
said, I have noticed a BIG improvement with encoding in 1.1.1. I use Ubuntu
9.10 on my laptop and and (IIRC) 10.4 on my machine at home
Bill
From: pharo-project-boun
riday.
where are the fixes?
which bug entry?
On Nov 18, 2010, at 12:12 AM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote:
> Stef,
>
> One thing I would like to try to get into the mainstream is a fix for named
> serial ports. I have gotten it to work, but the trick will be tests that do
> not depe
Stef,
One thing I would like to try to get into the mainstream is a fix for named
serial ports. I have gotten it to work, but the trick will be tests that do
not depend on a lot of other stuff. I'll see what I can pull together.
Bill
From: pharo-pro
I asked this some time back. One dark side of doing this is that it *can*
result in unwanted/inappropriate failures. In practice though, Dolphin's
limits on the stack has been a good thing.
From: pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr
[pharo-pr
Serge,
Things to consider in your situation:
(1) make a copy of your changes and image file as they are now - mark them as
possibly damaged, but it can help if you need to take multiple attempts to
recover your work
(2) As mentioned already, use Recover Lost Changes
(3) Note that one or more
Max,
I am not an expert here, but I have seen exactly this problem. Look for a
thread called "MC case sensitivity and sub-packages" from January 2010. My
recollection is that the only way to get around this mix of case sensitivity is
to delete the offending package and add it back with the re
ghe [s...@beta9.be]
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 8:06 AM
To: Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Unix thing? Possible silentfailure writing
file.
Bill,
On 15 Nov 2010, at 13:35, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote:
> Apologies if this comes through as a repe
understand why we need a minimum piece of code in
order to envision the tackling of an "ultimately fix".
Regards,
--
Cesar Rabak
Em 14/11/2010 19:26, Schwab,Wilhelm K < bsch...@anest.ufl.edu > escreveu:
If that's how you want it. My concern is not over the failure
Stef,
Are you concerned that an error is raised, or over exactly which error is
raised? The code
| b c |
b := [ :Object | Object ].
c := b value: Object.
is something that I would rather not have compile. Perhaps it should, just as
one is free to evaluate
Object := 'this is r
lp to send the mail.
On Nov 14, 2010, at 10:19 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote:
> Surely I'm not the only person to make the Windows to Unix move. It is
> either something that happens, or another case of the Squeak primitives
> failing without saying that they did, let alone why.
Surely I'm not the only person to make the Windows to Unix move. It is either
something that happens, or another case of the Squeak primitives failing
without saying that they did, let alone why. What you call a crystal ball, I
call words from the wise who might have seen something similar bef
I just had another silent failure that is a little disturbing. In short, I was
writing a text file for use with R, needed a new column, arranged for it and
re-wrote (so I intended) the file. Nothing happened, and no errors resulted.
Is there a unix newbie trap at work? Truncating the file al
Alexandre,
A possible source of a Levenberg-Marquardt optimizer:
http://www.ics.forth.gr/~lourakis/levmar/
It's GPL too, so aside from _possibly_ being cleaner than GSL's implementation
(there's room for improvement), it's no help. It appears that they translated
the code from Minpack, an
Lukas,
That explains it, but the very fact that I ran across this suggests that there
is a reason to compile code as-is, so perhaps the check should be removed.
Bill
From: pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr
[pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge
I am using a 1.1.1 image with
SystemBrowser defaultOpenBrowser OBSystemBrowserAdaptor
I am debugging some code that I have not used for a while, so a few growing
pains would not be a surprise.
What DOES surprise me is the following:
(1) select #plotFrom:to:using:keepGoing:plots: and accept
Phillipe,
The *possible* connection is that pushing limits has a way of making otherwise
benign problems show themselves.
Bill
From: pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr
[pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Philippe Marscha
What does your patch do? At a minimum, it deserves a little attention. Things
that come to mind are that one version does less work due to some type of
optimization (and runs faster as a result) or that one is too quick to detect a
loss of connection and sends less data per opportunity, appear
Sig,
I disagree; the layout policy should arrange the morphs it controls. To do
otherwise demands that the morphs be able to cope with any type of layout one
might want. The various algorithms have to go somewhere; they might as well go
in the layouts.
Bill
Alexandre,
What numerical techniques are important to you? How large are the typical data
sets, grids, etc? I do a lot of processing on 500,000 sample signals, so
Smalltalk is out for most of that number crunching (FFT, DWT, norms, etc.) and
visualization. So far, I could probably get away w
Alexandre,
I don't have any direct experience with astronomy, but we no doubt share some
requirements. I started purging Numerical Recipes from my arsenal long ago, in
part over licensing and mostly because so much of the code suffers from
Fortran-confusion-syndrome. What do I mean by that?
Does that mean that Grapviz exists both in executable and library forms?
From: pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr
[pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Fernando Olivero
[fernando.oliv...@usi.ch]
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2
Agreed. Can you tell me how to get GroupWise and Outlook to do what you want?
I've read that they can do it; I've never been able to find the features that
would be required.
From: pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr
[pharo-project-boun...@l
This debate/conversation arises every so often, and it is always informative.
There are two camps: those who (almost?) never save an image, and those who
move images around. FWIW, I fall into the latter category. One good thing
about _not_ saving images is that it will force full understandin
If you really want some fun, charter a new usenet group. This debate will
arise, and you'd think top-posting would freeze the Earth's core and end life
as we know it :) That's w/o any petitioners so much as mentioning it.
That said, again, it's not necessarily laziness - I have had two rotten
Norbert,
I could not disagree more - no hard feelings I hope. Given that, what am I
doing top-posting all of the time? Unfortunately, I have not had a "real"
mail client for a long time. LookOut!!! provides no way to quote text. Before
that, it was Novell's offering that did not offer a ch
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