Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Pharo Launcher v1.2 release

2018-06-21 Thread Christophe Demarey
> Le 20 juin 2018 à 20:08, Tim Mackinnon a écrit : > > A simple way is to have a tick box - don’t show me again? Yes, I will do that.

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Pharo Launcher v1.2 release

2018-06-21 Thread Christophe Demarey
> Le 20 juin 2018 à 16:08, Sean P. DeNigris a écrit : > > demarey wrote >> I just released PharoLauncher 1.2 > > Thanks! > > Warning to users: This new release is based on 64-bit Pharo. This caused a > bit of unexpected havoc for me as my projects are not all tested on 64-bit. Indeed,

Re: [Pharo-users] OmniBase for Pharo 6

2018-06-21 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
Hi, I just made a “blind port” of OmniBase to Pharo6+ (migrated the old FFI to new UFFI). New port is here: https://github.com/estebanlm/OmniBase and can be load like this: Metacello new repository: 'github://estebanlm/OmniBase/src';

Re: [Pharo-users] OmniBase for Pharo 6

2018-06-21 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
btw… a viable alternative to omnibase if your needs are not more than 1TB is Voyage-Unqlite. Is the closest we have to a real object database running. (now, I need to check why it is not working properly on windows, but that’s another 2c) Esteban > On 21 Jun 2018, at 09:10, Esteban

Re: [Pharo-users] OmniBase for Pharo 6

2018-06-21 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
btw… the baseline I created will just load OmniBase. Some dependencies (like OSProcess) where not included (as I said, I just made it loadable in P6+, some work may be needed to make it pass). cheers, Esteban > On 21 Jun 2018, at 13:13, Matias Maretto wrote: > > Hi, Thank you Esteban, I will

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Pharo Launcher v1.2 release

2018-06-21 Thread Peter Uhnák
Thanks for the release! Just a note regarding the Windows installer. I managed to crash and corrupt my Pharo Launcher (probably unrelated to PL.. I normally modify PharoLauncher to fit me better), so I wanted to reinstall it. As far as I can tell, the options "Modify" and "Repair" installation

Re: [Pharo-users] Smalltalk Programming Competition

2018-06-21 Thread horrido
I'm disappointed in the response. Only two contributors of $100 each. This is extremely tepid. There must be thousands of Smalltalkers around the world. How to reach out to them? It can't be that hard to fund this contest. I mean, there are many stupid causes on GoFundMe that have raised tens of

Re: [Pharo-users] Smalltalk Programming Competition

2018-06-21 Thread Serge Stinckwich
hi Horrido, I would like to thank you for your effort to organize this competition. But for the amount you are asking (30K USD), I don't expect that much people to participate if you don't give them more feedback and information on your project. You have too look how successful crowdfunding

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Pharo Launcher v1.2 release

2018-06-21 Thread Christophe Demarey
> Le 20 juin 2018 à 13:31, Christophe Demarey a > écrit : > > >> Le 20 juin 2018 à 10:48, Serge Stinckwich > > a écrit : >> >> On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 9:04 AM Christophe Demarey >> mailto:christophe.dema...@inria.fr>> wrote: >> >>> Le 19 juin 2018 à

Re: [Pharo-users] OmniBase for Pharo 6

2018-06-21 Thread Tim Mackinnon
Todd - thanks for clarifying - thats a fairer non-emotive assessment. I also know that you often helpfully chip in here too, so thanks for that too. Tim > On 21 Jun 2018, at 11:18, Todd Blanchard wrote: > > I'll just leave it with production data was lost through creeping file > corruption

Re: [Pharo-users] OmniBase for Pharo 6

2018-06-21 Thread Matias Maretto
Hi, Thank you Esteban, I will load it and run some test; very thankful. Todd , Tim, also thank you for your comments, I will certainly take a look a Voyage. I will let you know how it turns out. Matias. De: Pharo-users en nombre de Esteban Lorenzano

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 7, Iceberg, Proxy and Windows

2018-06-21 Thread Vitor Medina Cruz
Ok, I forgot to mention I have changed LGitRepository>>clone:url:local_path:options:, but for some odd reason it's arguments names were switched to arg 1, arg2, arg3 etc, so the out error was because was renamed to one of those generic arg names. I figure that out looking at the versions of the

[Pharo-users] ESUG 2018 Innovation Technology Awards: Call for Submissions

2018-06-21 Thread N. Bouraqadi
Dear fellow Smalltalkers, The 15th edition of the ESUG Innovation Technology Awards is now officially open. As for every year, you can submit software based on any Smalltalk flavor, to attempt to win one of the three prizes. All you have to do is to provide a 3-5min video demo. More info and a

Re: [Pharo-users] OmniBase for Pharo 6

2018-06-21 Thread Todd Blanchard
I'll just leave it with production data was lost through creeping file corruption and recovery services were paid for but not rendered. If you need your data to be safe, I'd pick something else. Sorry if that seems offensive, that's my experience with it. > On Jun 20, 2018, at 11:13 PM, Tim

Re: [Pharo-users] Smalltalk Programming Competition

2018-06-21 Thread horrido
I've finalized the name of the competition: The James Robertson Memorial Programming Competition. The late James Robertson was a tireless advocate for Smalltalk. He gave many presentations, wrote blogs and produced videos. This competition honours him and his body of work.

Re: [Pharo-users] OmniBase for Pharo 6

2018-06-21 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
EstebanLM wrote > I just made a “blind port”… migrated the old FFI to new UFFI Did you do this manually or use some migration tool? How long did it take? - Cheers, Sean -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html

Re: [Pharo-users] OmniBase for Pharo 6

2018-06-21 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
ok, I just updated it (and split tests from main package). now it loads and tests pass except for 3 failures. I let you provide a PR to fix them if that’s an issue :) cheers, Esteban > On 21 Jun 2018, at 13:49, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > > btw… the baseline I created will just load

Re: [Pharo-users] Smalltalk Programming Competition

2018-06-21 Thread Tim Mackinnon
I noticed that your gofundme update email went into my spam mail box - so I wasn’t aware it had gone live. Are you able to apply the funds from your previous campaign (The Ultimate Smalltalk Tutorial) to this one? As a contributor to that last one - which unfortunately didn’t manage to deliver

Re: [Pharo-users] Smalltalk Programming Competition

2018-06-21 Thread Richard O'Keefe
Programming languages used in high-schools here include Scratch, Javascript, and Python. Myself, I've always had a fondness for StarLogo/NetLogo. On 19 June 2018 at 15:08, horrido wrote: > I appreciate what you're saying, and certainly the things you want to see > funded are worthwhile.

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Pharo Launcher v1.2 release

2018-06-21 Thread Christophe Demarey
> Le 21 juin 2018 à 14:57, Peter Uhnák a écrit : > > Thanks for the release! > > Just a note regarding the Windows installer. I managed to crash and corrupt > my Pharo Launcher (probably unrelated to PL.. I normally modify PharoLauncher > to fit me better), so I wanted to reinstall it. As

Re: [Pharo-users] Smalltalk Programming Competition

2018-06-21 Thread horrido
The first attempt at a competition was a Kickstarter campaign. No money was collected, because Kickstarter is an all-or-nothing affair. (In other words, you didn't actually lose any money.) Cincom had pledged $5,000, but because it was all-or-nothing, they wriggled out of it. Otherwise, we

Re: [Pharo-users] Iceberg - finding deleted classes, reverting versions?

2018-06-21 Thread Tim Mackinnon
Guille - just following up on this thread as I’d like to get more confident with this stuff. You mentioned a Calypso plugin for versions - where is that? I loaded a recentish P7 image and I don’t see those icons? Is this something I can easily load to try out? As I don’t have that plugin,

Re: [Pharo-users] Smalltalk Programming Competition

2018-06-21 Thread horrido
This is a proof of concept video. With full funding, I shall produce a version without Powtoon branding and in HD (720p) format. It's for marketing the competition: https://youtu.be/OCWBERJmrss SergeStinckwich wrote > hi Horrido, > > I would like to thank you for your effort to organize this

Re: [Pharo-users] Smalltalk Programming Competition

2018-06-21 Thread horrido
I hear what you're saying. Here's my rationale... #1. As far as I know, I'm the only person on the planet who has worked full-time and without pay as a programming language advocate for nearly four years. Did I mention full-time and without pay? So I think you can trust me to deliver, come hell

Re: [Pharo-users] Smalltalk Programming Competition

2018-06-21 Thread Travis Ayres
You worked without pay? ...why? On Thu, Jun 21, 2018, 8:53 AM horrido wrote: > I hear what you're saying. Here's my rationale... > > #1. As far as I know, I'm the only person on the planet who has worked > full-time and without pay as a programming language advocate for nearly > four > years.

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 7, Iceberg, Proxy and Windows

2018-06-21 Thread Vitor Medina Cruz
I am sorry, the correct message is "LGit_GIT_ERROR: failed to get server certificate: The handle is in the wrong state for the requested operation". I tried to add corporate certificates to the git curl-ca-bundle.crt, I tried to git config --global http.sslVerify false also, no success... :( On

Re: [Pharo-users] Smalltalk Programming Competition

2018-06-21 Thread horrido
One small correction: it's CA$30,000, not US$30,000. Given the exchange rate, it's actually considerably LESS money! SergeStinckwich wrote > hi Horrido, > > I would like to thank you for your effort to organize this competition. > > But for the amount you are asking (30K USD), I don't expect

Re: [Pharo-users] Smalltalk Programming Competition

2018-06-21 Thread Hilaire
It will be far more fun for the kids if we had PyGame (itself based on SDL) like package on Pharo. Hilaire Le 21/06/2018 à 17:52, horrido a écrit : I hear what you're saying. Here's my rationale... #1. As far as I know, I'm the only person on the planet who has worked full-time and without

Re: [Pharo-users] In Pharo 7 - are the Browsers in any particular order in the new menu?

2018-06-21 Thread Tim Mackinnon
Hi Cyril (nice work on the menu by the way) - I was thinking in the Tools menu they should both be at the top. For the world menu - I think maybe the consistency is better - and for the advanced user they can learnt he keyboard shortcuts? I’ll put a bug for this. Tim > On 21 Jun 2018, at

Re: [Pharo-users] Smalltalk Programming Competition

2018-06-21 Thread horrido
#1. Who would pay me??? No company nor organization (even Smalltalk-related) cares enough about Smalltalk to hire a full-time advocate. And even if they did, I have no track record at all in marketing and advocacy. They're buying a pig in a poke. #2. It I didn't step up, no one would. There is

Re: [Pharo-users] Smalltalk Programming Competition

2018-06-21 Thread Esteban A. Maringolo
On 21/06/2018 07:23, horrido wrote: > I'm disappointed in the response. Only two contributors of $100 each. This is > extremely tepid. > > There must be thousands of Smalltalkers around the world. How to reach out > to them? It can't be that hard to fund this contest. I mean, there are many >

Re: [Pharo-users] In Pharo 7 - are the Browsers in any particular order in the new menu?

2018-06-21 Thread Cyril Ferlicot D.
Le 21/06/2018 à 23:18, Tim Mackinnon a écrit : > Hi Hi, - in the new menu system (which I kind of like, and certainly see the value for new user, but worry about the loss of screen space for advanced users) There is a setting to disable it if needed ;) - is the order of browsers specified

Re: [Pharo-users] OmniBase for Pharo 6

2018-06-21 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
I did it manually and I took like 5 min :P but this was really easy, just a bunch of FFI calls. Esteban > On 21 Jun 2018, at 15:31, Sean P. DeNigris wrote: > > EstebanLM wrote >> I just made a “blind port”… migrated the old FFI to new UFFI > > Did you do this manually or use some migration

[Pharo-users] In Pharo 7 - are the Browsers in any particular order in the new menu?

2018-06-21 Thread Tim Mackinnon
Hi - in the new menu system (which I kind of like, and certainly see the value for new user, but worry about the loss of screen space for advanced users) - is the order of browsers specified for any particular reason? I ask, because the 2 main one System and Playground should both be at the top

Re: [Pharo-users] Smalltalk Programming Competition

2018-06-21 Thread horrido
Indeed, these have been the main goals of my marketing campaign: - spread the word through social media (word of mouth) - try to make Smalltalk look "cool" and fascinating (pop-cultured) - emphasize that Smalltalk is web-ready, since the whole world seems to be going ga-ga over the web (popular

Re: [Pharo-users] Iceberg - finding deleted classes, reverting versions?

2018-06-21 Thread Tim Mackinnon
Just to add more information to this - I did try what was suggested here (it refers to a branch and not a commit id - but heck worth a shot) https://stackoverflow.com/questions/5989592/git-cannot-checkout-branch-error-pathspec-did-not-match-any-files-kn

Re: [Pharo-users] Smalltalk Programming Competition

2018-06-21 Thread Travis Ayres
It will be the most exciting $200 programming competition ever. On Thu, Jun 21, 2018, 4:41 PM horrido wrote: > Indeed, these have been the main goals of my marketing campaign: > > - spread the word through social media (word of mouth) > - try to make Smalltalk look "cool" and fascinating

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Pharo Launcher v1.2 release

2018-06-21 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
demarey wrote > Launcher is not anymore identified as ‘Pharo’ application and comes with > its own icon. Awesome!! This small change has already had a big impact on my psychology :) I often have many images open, but frequently refer back to my (stay-open) launcher image, which is now nicely

Re: [Pharo-users] In Pharo 7 - are the Browsers in any particular order in the new menu?

2018-06-21 Thread Ben Coman
> > On 21 Jun 2018, at 22:42, Cyril Ferlicot D. > wrote: > > > > Le 21/06/2018 à 23:18, Tim Mackinnon a écrit : > >> Hi > > > > Hi, > > > > - is the order of browsers specified for any particular reason? > >> > >> I ask, because the 2 main one System and Playground should both be at > the top (in

Re: [Pharo-users] In Pharo 7 - are the Browsers in any particular order in the new menu?

2018-06-21 Thread Ben Coman
On 22 June 2018 at 10:25, Ben Coman wrote: > > > >> > On 21 Jun 2018, at 22:42, Cyril Ferlicot D. >> wrote: >> > >> > Le 21/06/2018 à 23:18, Tim Mackinnon a écrit : >> >> Hi >> > >> > Hi, >> > >> > > - is the order of browsers specified for any particular reason? >> >> >> >> I ask, because the

Re: [Pharo-users] Smalltalk Programming Competition

2018-06-21 Thread Ben Coman
> > > SergeStinckwich wrote > > Ok, the subject is completely different and maybe his topic is sensible > > for a lot of people but the concerns are the same. At the end, you need > to > > convince people to give you money. > > > > What is your budget ? what kind of competition you will organize ?

Re: [Pharo-users] Lost in stream

2018-06-21 Thread Hilaire
Recorded https://bugs.launchpad.net/drgeo/+bug/1777991 Le 21/06/2018 à 08:11, Hilaire a écrit : I should, but there were changes in the API impacting its use in Dr. Geo, and I have to concentrate on other matter first. Pavel did a port on Github[1], but I failed to track on-line the changes

Re: [Pharo-users] Lost in stream

2018-06-21 Thread Hilaire
I should, but there were changes in the API impacting its use in Dr. Geo, and I have to concentrate on other matter first. Pavel did a port on Github[1], but I failed to track on-line the changes to the code related to Dr. Geo's use of XML. I will need time, or helps. I don't use GitLab, so I

Re: [Pharo-users] OmniBase for Pharo 6

2018-06-21 Thread Tim Mackinnon
I too used it in Dolphin and it was fine, But i don’t think it gets used much in Pharo and so has probably decayed, isn’t Voyage an object dB or Gemstone? (Todd & everyone, a gentle reminder to try and leave personality opinions at the door , we’ve already had another thread that got overly