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2015-10-18 Thread Barry Kasindorf via Phono-L


I got the screws and clips. Maybe next week we can finish it.
-Barry


Re: [Phono-L] The Death of Amberola III SN304

2013-03-24 Thread Barry Kasindorf

I was able to buy just the horn a while ago so it can be gotten.
Better to have the orig one that came from the machine. I had bought it 
to make a 'fake' III but was able to find a III and sold the horn.

-Barry

On 3/24/2013 5:22 PM, Bill Taney wrote:

Excellent work!!

Sent from my iPad

On Mar 24, 2013, at 3:56 PM, "George Glastris"  wrote:


Or maybe we can find the buyer and ask him to pass it on to the buyer of the 
rest of the machine.

-Original Message- From: George Paul
Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 3:35 PM
To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] The Death of Amberola III SN304

I'm happy to report that all the constituent parts of Amberola III No.304 
(except the horn) have been purchased by a preservation-minded collector. It's 
a pity about the horn, but I'm hoping one of us can find an original to 
complete the machine.


Does anyone have a spare Amberola III horn in any condition?


Best to all,


George P.







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Re: [Phono-L] Turntable Motor Question

2013-02-15 Thread Barry Kasindorf
Check the resister. If its value is too big the motor will slow down 
under load.

-Barry

On 2/14/2013 11:23 PM, Vinyl Visions wrote:

I am at my wits end, trying to find someone who can rewind/fix a motor for my Fairy 
Phonograph Lamp. What I am considering as a temporary fix (not altering the original 
parts in any way) was to use a 78 rpm turntable motor from a jukebox. Does anyone 
know of a direct drive type motor that would handle the weight of a 12" steel 
turntable and the resulting drag from the acoustic reproducer and steel needle?
I have been researching the original Fairy motor for over 8 months and cannot 
find anything about it regarding amps, hp and rpms - there is no tag on any of 
the three that I have looked at. I am restoring a second Fairy lamp that has 
the same motor problem as my first one - motor spins, but slows to a stop with 
any load. I have been told that the motor is a strange one since it is wound 
for three different types of power. Parts for these phonos are non-existent, 
thus the idea of using a strong jukebox turntable motor which is already 
running at 78 rpms. The original motor has a resistor to cut the power and uses 
a pulley - governor - worm screw to meshed gear transmission to run the 
turntable and the speed is controlled by a simple brake mechanism. Any ideas or 
suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
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[Phono-L] Columbia Baby Grand piano shaped phonograph

2012-11-26 Thread Barry Kasindorf

Hi,
I recently got one of these, Circasian Walnut straight leg. It has the 
early electric motor. It works but I can't figure out how to adjust the 
autostop. The last owner has 'fixed' it. Same with the speed control but 
that I have an idea how to fix.


Also it comes with 2 reproducers. I assumed they were different, one for 
early acoustic and one for electric recorded. But the 2 that came with 
it are the same.


It is also missing one of the gold plated tools (the needle nose pliers) 
from the drawer. I assume I will never get a gold plated one but would 
like to get one of the same type and vintage and plate it. Any ideas 
where to look for one?


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Re: [Phono-L] FAIRY PHONO-LAMP RESTORATION - CORRECT LINK

2012-09-22 Thread Barry Kasindorf

Congratulations. Nice job
-Barry

On 9/22/2012 12:24 AM, Vinyl Visions wrote:

I guess that in order to see the pics you have to go to our website:   
www.carolinaphonosociety.com
Once there, click "ENTER" on the side of the truck...
Now you are on page two with the woman and Nipper - scroll down to the bottom of the page where 
there is a pic of a Fairy Phono Lamp - Click on the picture and it will take you to the 
"before" page Now click on the yellow words "Click HERE to see the restoration 
progress" at the top of the page... DONE


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Re: [Phono-L] Bob Johnson News Article

2012-09-20 Thread Barry Kasindorf
Such a shame, what a nice guy. He helped so many people like me he 
really didn't know.

-Barry

On 9/20/2012 11:22 AM, Loran T. Hughes wrote:

http://www.mailtribune.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20120920/NEWS/209200313

Loran
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[Phono-L] Edison 11 panel cygnet horn

2012-09-14 Thread Barry Kasindorf

Hi,
I have this black and gold horn and it is extra. I got it because I 
thought it went with a Triumph but I don't have a machine for it 
anymore. Is it worth more than a regular 10 panel?


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Re: [Phono-L] Fairy Phonograph Motor Issue...

2012-08-13 Thread Barry Kasindorf
I had a Phono that did that. I think is is worn bearings in the motor.
 On Aug 13, 2012 8:03 PM, "Vinyl Visions"  wrote:

>
> Is there anyone on the list who has had experience with a Fairy Phonograph
> motor or other phono motors from that period? I completed my restoration -
> everything works - lights, motor, etc. However, when the motor is under
> load, with the turntable in place, it seems to vary in power from fast to
> almost a complete stop. It bogs down when a record is attempted to be
> played...
> I know that no one will have an exact answer, but I am looking for the
> most plausible cause. Does the motor need to be rewound and rebuilt or is
> it more likely that the brushes are dirty or worn out. Any ideas???
> Curt
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[Phono-L] For Sale: Edison cylinder machines

2012-08-02 Thread Barry Kasindorf

The Red Banner Home and 5" Concert are still available.
Pictures are available.

Edison Concert 5" with over-cover. B reproducer.
Early banner suitcase Home brass mandrel Red Decal on lid

Can deliver to Wayne or Kutztown.
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[Phono-L] For Sale: Edison cylinder machines

2012-07-23 Thread Barry Kasindorf

Before these go on Ebay.
Oak Amberola III with replacement record boxes.
Amberola 30
Edison Concert 5" with over-cover. B reproducer.
Early banner suitcase Home

Can deliver to Wayne or Kutztown.
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Re: [Phono-L] Exploring Phonograph Show/Sale in Boston

2012-05-16 Thread Barry Kasindorf
I like that idea. A joint phono show with the NEARC show in Febuary might work.
-Barry


On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 1:46 PM, Jack Whelan  wrote:
>
>
> Bruce, The airfare to TF Green in Providence RI would be much higher that 
> Boston.  More important, you'd get a larger turn out in a large metro city, 
> Boston.   The number of hotels (from low cost to upper range) accessible by 
> public transit is very large.    An important consideration is open parking 
> area as many dealers haul their inventory in a trailer.   There are several 
> well-attended Antique Radio Shows in the Boston area, might make sense to 
> schedule at the same time, venue.  Jack   > Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 17:40:26 
> +
>> From: bruce78...@comcast.net
>> To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
>> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] 2013 Phonograph Show/Sale
>>
>> I wonder if we could sponsor one some year. You would have to have it 
>> somewhere that is close access to an airport and hotels and motels etc. The 
>> Attleboro area is close proximity to T.F. Green airport, Rte 95 etc. , you 
>> would just need to find a hotel or function hall that was nearby with large 
>> enough facilities, to hold a two day event, and also gain access to the list 
>> of all of the dealers who can be solicited. and make it on a date where it 
>> does not conflict with other well established Phonograph shows/Sales.
>>
>> Bruce
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Re: [Phono-L] Amberola case parts request

2012-04-04 Thread Barry Kasindorf
I have some extra Amberola 30 cases, email me offlist.
-Barry

On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 8:55 AM, Bob Maffit  wrote:
> Phono listers:
>
>
>
> Is anyone reproducing the wood case parts for Amberola 30s? I am looking for
> what I refer to as the wood frame which sits on top of the sides & back, and
> functions as a rest or base for the lid.
>
>
>
> In effect if removed it would look like a wood frame.
>
>
>
> If no source for the case parts, does anyone have one they want to part
> with?
>
>
>
> Later
>
>
>
> Bob
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Re: [Phono-L] Does anyone know how to make a Jones Motrola _safe_?

2012-02-17 Thread Barry Kasindorf
 Very true. The question was SAFETY. I hate having 3 wire plugs on 
antique electronics. You can easily put a polarized plug on a piece of 
zipcord and get the ends right and be safe as well. I like the idea of 
making something SAFE without changing the item at all.

-Barry


On 2/17/2012 12:25 PM, Bruce wrote:

Barry, the shock hazard model during HiPot testing development assumes all
external metallic surfaces on a product are always at the same potential.
That is why we are only required to test against the product ground through
an alligator clamp to the chassis or through the ground terminal of the 3
wire AC input. The shock hazard model we care about is a ground path through
the body past the heart. You could be standing on a concrete floor barefoot
or touching a cold water pipe with your other arm.

I submit to you that I could connect any ungrounded electrical device
through my isolation transformer, float it up to 1500VAC (the isolation
voltage of my isolation transformer) and invite you to touch it and
depending on your resistance to ground, you will definitely feel it. It will
not be much current, and it may not kill you but it will wake you up faster
than a few cups of coffee.

Bruce Peterson
Accolade Engineering
www.accoladeeng.com

-Original Message-
From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On
Behalf Of Barry Kasindorf
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 8:28 AM
To: Antique Phonograph List
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Does anyone know how to make a Jones Motrola _safe_?

All this assumes the entire case is at the same potential. Then a shock
occurs if you touch the case and something else that has a non infinite
resistance to the other side of the line at the same time. An isolation
transformer (not a variac or such) that completely isolates the item
from the ground will remove the shock hazard caused by touching the case
of the Motrola and ground. Nothing, including connecting the case to the
green wire of the 3 wire plug will prevent a shock if all the metal is
not at the same potential. If the case halves don't connect well, which
can happen if it is cruddy potmetal you will still get a shock if you
touch ground and the part that is not connected well to the part of the
case you grounded. An isolation transformer will 100% prevent a shock
unless you touch BOTH parts of a faulty case at the same time, and you
will still get a shock if you grounded one part of the case in this case.
The good thing about the isolation transformer is you don't have to make
any changes to the Motrola and it can be used for other electronics when
not using the phonograph.
-Barry

On 2/17/2012 10:51 AM, Bruce wrote:

The isolation transformer does NOT make it safe. We use isolation
transformers when working on TVs/Radios with a hot ground so that when we
connect the ground lead of our instrumentation, we don't see fireworks.

The

isolation transformer allows the isolated circuit to float to whatever
potential the leakage or forced paths take it. It is true that the only

way

to experience a shock is to come in contact with two significantly
difference potentials. I think this discussion of shock hazards already

had

the premise that a potential near ground was available for accidental
contact along with a faulty motrola.

Bruce


-Original Message-
From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org]

On

Behalf Of Barry Kasindorf
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 6:10 AM
To: Antique Phonograph List
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Does anyone know how to make a Jones Motrola

_safe_?

Not true Greg. You would have to touch 2 different places with potential
to get a shock and the case can't have that.
Unless the isolation transformer is bad it makers it safe. That is how
you can use those AC/DC sets with the case hot safely. The isolation
transformer isolates it from ground completely.

On 2/16/2012 10:10 PM, Greg Bogantz wrote:

 An isolation transformer would not prevent getting a shock from the
case of the Motrola if it develops internal leakage.  Grounding the
case of the unit as described previously is the best plan.

Greg Bogantz



- Original Message - From: "Philip Carli"

To: "Antique Phonograph List"
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 8:45 PM
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Does anyone know how to make a Jones Motrola
_safe_?



Many thanks!  Another suggestion I've had is the use of an isolation
transformer at the plug - any thoughts on that? PC


From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] on
behalf of Greg Bogantz [gbogan...@charter.net]
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 8:27 PM
To: Antique Phonograph List
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Does anyone know how to make a Jones Motrola
_safe_?

 I believe the Motrola has a metal case.  The danger can occur if
there
is electrical leakage from the internal wiring to the case and its
attached
metal parts

Re: [Phono-L] Does anyone know how to make a Jones Motrola _safe_?

2012-02-17 Thread Barry Kasindorf
All this assumes the entire case is at the same potential. Then a shock 
occurs if you touch the case and something else that has a non infinite 
resistance to the other side of the line at the same time. An isolation 
transformer (not a variac or such) that completely isolates the item 
from the ground will remove the shock hazard caused by touching the case 
of the Motrola and ground. Nothing, including connecting the case to the 
green wire of the 3 wire plug will prevent a shock if all the metal is 
not at the same potential. If the case halves don't connect well, which 
can happen if it is cruddy potmetal you will still get a shock if you 
touch ground and the part that is not connected well to the part of the 
case you grounded. An isolation transformer will 100% prevent a shock 
unless you touch BOTH parts of a faulty case at the same time, and you 
will still get a shock if you grounded one part of the case in this case.
The good thing about the isolation transformer is you don't have to make 
any changes to the Motrola and it can be used for other electronics when 
not using the phonograph.

-Barry

On 2/17/2012 10:51 AM, Bruce wrote:

The isolation transformer does NOT make it safe. We use isolation
transformers when working on TVs/Radios with a hot ground so that when we
connect the ground lead of our instrumentation, we don't see fireworks. The
isolation transformer allows the isolated circuit to float to whatever
potential the leakage or forced paths take it. It is true that the only way
to experience a shock is to come in contact with two significantly
difference potentials. I think this discussion of shock hazards already had
the premise that a potential near ground was available for accidental
contact along with a faulty motrola.

Bruce


-Original Message-
From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On
Behalf Of Barry Kasindorf
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 6:10 AM
To: Antique Phonograph List
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Does anyone know how to make a Jones Motrola _safe_?

Not true Greg. You would have to touch 2 different places with potential
to get a shock and the case can't have that.
Unless the isolation transformer is bad it makers it safe. That is how
you can use those AC/DC sets with the case hot safely. The isolation
transformer isolates it from ground completely.

On 2/16/2012 10:10 PM, Greg Bogantz wrote:

An isolation transformer would not prevent getting a shock from the
case of the Motrola if it develops internal leakage.  Grounding the
case of the unit as described previously is the best plan.

Greg Bogantz



- Original Message - From: "Philip Carli"

To: "Antique Phonograph List"
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 8:45 PM
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Does anyone know how to make a Jones Motrola
_safe_?



Many thanks!  Another suggestion I've had is the use of an isolation
transformer at the plug - any thoughts on that? PC


From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] on
behalf of Greg Bogantz [gbogan...@charter.net]
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 8:27 PM
To: Antique Phonograph List
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Does anyone know how to make a Jones Motrola
_safe_?

I believe the Motrola has a metal case.  The danger can occur if
there
is electrical leakage from the internal wiring to the case and its
attached
metal parts which can occur due to carbonized insulation that can
begin to
develop a lower resistance.  I would recommend first testing with an
ohmmeter to determine if there is already leakage from either of the
wires
leading from the motor to the case.  An ohmmeter reading should
indicate a
very high or infinite resistance from either wire to the case when
things
are correct.  If you measure any significantly lower resistance, the
internal wiring will need to be redone or repaired.  If there is good
isolation from the motor wires to the case, I would recommend
replacing the
line cord with a modern three-wire cord with a 3-terminal AC plug.
Connect
the black and white wires to the motor circuit as was done in the
original
2-wire cord.  Then connect the green wire to a screw on the metal case.
This will privide a grounding connection from the case to your household
earthing system.  If electrical leakage should develop in the future, it
will be routed thru the green wire to your household ground system
(assuming
you plug the cord into a modern 3-wire outlet).  In the worst case,
it will
blow a fuse or circuit breaker rather than leaving the system a shock
hazard.

Greg Bogantz



- Original Message -
From: "Philip Carli"
To: "Antique Phonograph List"
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 7:08 PM
Subject: [Phono-L] Does anyone know how to make a Jones Motrola _safe_?



I have a Jones Motrola I'm trying to rewire, but I read that they
can be
dangerous in their original ungrounded state?  Any idea

Re: [Phono-L] Does anyone know how to make a Jones Motrola _safe_?

2012-02-17 Thread Barry Kasindorf
Not true Greg. You would have to touch 2 different places with potential 
to get a shock and the case can't have that.
Unless the isolation transformer is bad it makers it safe. That is how 
you can use those AC/DC sets with the case hot safely. The isolation 
transformer isolates it from ground completely.


On 2/16/2012 10:10 PM, Greg Bogantz wrote:
   An isolation transformer would not prevent getting a shock from the 
case of the Motrola if it develops internal leakage.  Grounding the 
case of the unit as described previously is the best plan.


Greg Bogantz



- Original Message - From: "Philip Carli" 


To: "Antique Phonograph List" 
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 8:45 PM
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Does anyone know how to make a Jones Motrola 
_safe_?



Many thanks!  Another suggestion I've had is the use of an isolation 
transformer at the plug - any thoughts on that? PC



From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] on 
behalf of Greg Bogantz [gbogan...@charter.net]

Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 8:27 PM
To: Antique Phonograph List
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Does anyone know how to make a Jones Motrola 
_safe_?


   I believe the Motrola has a metal case.  The danger can occur if 
there
is electrical leakage from the internal wiring to the case and its 
attached
metal parts which can occur due to carbonized insulation that can 
begin to

develop a lower resistance.  I would recommend first testing with an
ohmmeter to determine if there is already leakage from either of the 
wires
leading from the motor to the case.  An ohmmeter reading should 
indicate a
very high or infinite resistance from either wire to the case when 
things

are correct.  If you measure any significantly lower resistance, the
internal wiring will need to be redone or repaired.  If there is good
isolation from the motor wires to the case, I would recommend 
replacing the
line cord with a modern three-wire cord with a 3-terminal AC plug. 
Connect
the black and white wires to the motor circuit as was done in the 
original

2-wire cord.  Then connect the green wire to a screw on the metal case.
This will privide a grounding connection from the case to your household
earthing system.  If electrical leakage should develop in the future, it
will be routed thru the green wire to your household ground system 
(assuming
you plug the cord into a modern 3-wire outlet).  In the worst case, 
it will

blow a fuse or circuit breaker rather than leaving the system a shock
hazard.

Greg Bogantz



- Original Message -
From: "Philip Carli" 
To: "Antique Phonograph List" 
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 7:08 PM
Subject: [Phono-L] Does anyone know how to make a Jones Motrola _safe_?




I have a Jones Motrola I'm trying to rewire, but I read that they 
can be
dangerous in their original ungrounded state?  Any ideas on how I 
can deal

with this?  Any help would be appreciated.  Thanks, Philip Carli



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Re: [Phono-L] Cygnet suspension spring question

2011-08-06 Thread Barry Kasindorf

I have a new crane here that is too tall, maybe we can trade.
-Barry


On 8/6/2011 11:48 AM, john robles wrote:

Hello all
I recently purchased an original cygnet suspension spring. All of my Cygnet 
hardware was original with the exception of the spring, so it seemed like a 
golden opportunity. What I didn't consider was the strength (or lack thereof) 
of an original spring.  It seems this one is weak enough that I have to crank 
the susension bolt all the way to the bottom in order to have the horn hang 
correctly, and even then it is putting a little too much pressure on the 
carriage to the point that records repeat grooves. I use a tizit to help the 
carriage move freely but even this doesn't help, and shortening the rubber 
connector wouldn't do much. Here's my question: Would it be blaspemy to cut a 
few coils off the original spring in order to alleviate the problem? I hate to 
have spent the money only to have a spring I can't use.
The other solution is to get a different crane. I have a number 10 crane, and I 
read that there were different sized cranes for different options. I am going 
to be installing a top mount carriage and a model O reproducer, and I 
understaned there was a Model O crane that was taller than the number 10. 
Anyone seen one of these? Anyone got a longer lower portion they would trade??
Thanks!
John Robles.
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[Phono-L] Looking for TT and Triumph half nut

2011-07-19 Thread Barry Kasindorf

Hi,
I got all my phonographs out and I am looking for a few missing things.
I have a Vic XI tabletop inside horn machine that needs a TT. It is 
early and takes the cast iron short stem like the one on a Vic V.


I need one half nut for a Banner Triumph A. Someone was talking about 
making these but I lost the email.


I need a bedplate for a mid run square case standard with the large 
chrome nameplate. I don't need any parts just the bedplate.


Before anyone says it, yes I already asked George :-).
Thanks.

-Barry

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Re: [Phono-L] Charley

2011-05-17 Thread Barry Kasindorf
A very cool show on the Science Chanel about an antique store in 
Manhattan. There may be a clip on the discovery channel web site.

-Barry


On 5/17/2011 9:12 AM, Ron L'Herault wrote:

And what is "Oddities"?

Ron (doesn't buy cable/dish/fiber optic for TV)

-Original Message-
From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On
Behalf Of Ken and Brenda Brekke
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 10:19 PM
To: 'Antique Phonograph List'
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Charley

Is there a link to this episode?
Ken

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From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On
Behalf Of Barry Kasindorf
Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2011 1:46 PM
To: Antique Phonograph List
Subject: [Phono-L] Charley

Hi,
Did anyone else see Charlie buy the Edison doll on Oddities show last
night? Someone just walked in off the street (they want you to
believe..) and brought in an empty Edison doll to sell, and they went to
Charley. Very nice shots of his collection.
-Barry

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[Phono-L] Charley

2011-05-15 Thread Barry Kasindorf

Hi,
Did anyone else see Charlie buy the Edison doll on Oddities show last 
night? Someone just walked in off the street (they want you to 
believe..) and brought in an empty Edison doll to sell, and they went to 
Charley. Very nice shots of his collection.

-Barry

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Re: [Phono-L] Is this a children's phonograph??

2011-04-23 Thread Barry Kasindorf
When I got mine I assumed someone had home made the reproducer and 
tonearm since they were wood and looked very wrong and amateurish. But I 
have seen several others since and they were all this way so I assume 
this is right.

Now I know why.
-Barry

On 4/23/2011 12:07 PM, bruce78...@comcast.net wrote:

If you see Joan's detailed follow up, you will note that the ONLY VARIATION was 
in fact the position of the SPEED REGULATOR, and no other was noted.

Bruce
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To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2011 12:01:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Is this a children's phonograph??


Ok, that pic looks to be original, with the mahogany woodgrain and the 
fibre/cone tonearm.
My question, is still this: look at John's pic and the tonearm is mounted in a different 
location and also "appears to be original". As I said before, where in the 
world would you find a tonearm, motor and crank that would fit exactly in this machine? 
Not to say it couldn't be done, but it begs the question - why would anyone go to the 
trouble to alter a cheap machine in the first place and do such a good job that it would 
be hard to discern???
Tonearms and reproducers made specifically for different machines are almost impossible 
to move from one machine to another brand and fit exactly. I still wonder if this is yet 
another variation of woodgraining (not an unusual concept considering that people like 
different finishes) and the use of other available parts from the factory. If you look at 
the pic of the auction machine at the link Bruce sent, you can see what appears to be a 
speed regulator fitted in a hole where the tonearm on John's machine is mounted... maybe 
the company decided to use the existing hole for a later changeover to a metal tonearm, 
as the "fibre arm" looks delicate. The whole history of phonograph collecting 
is filled with odd and unbelievable factory variations from respected manufacturers - why 
not this cheap little machine?
What do I know??? I am not an expert, just a collector/restorer.

Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2011 01:14:59 +
From: bruce78...@comcast.net
To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Is this a children's phonograph??

Thanks. I just found one that looks completely original. If you pull up a close 
up of the Center Photo you will get a good look at that so-called Violin Fibre 
Tone Arm/Horn should look like. Note the dark Mahogany Color of the metal 
cabinet.

http://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/6056299

Bruce
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Sent: Friday, April 22, 2011 7:47:39 PM
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Is this a children's phonograph??


I am positive that Bruce is right... I was just wondering about possible 
variations.


Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2011 16:53:58 +
From: bruce78...@comcast.net
To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Is this a children's phonograph??

This machine as I said is all wrong. The one that appeared on ebay a couple of 
years ago was correct. It had the fiber tone and the correct reproducer, it was 
correct color but it was missing the Motor. This is definitely a CAROLA but it 
has definitely been altered from its original state. If you can live with that 
drastic alteration of the original then by all means shell out some dough, its 
whatever makes you happy.
- Original Message -
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To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
Sent: Friday, April 22, 2011 11:40:30 AM
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Is this a children's phonograph??


Hi John,Even though my 2 cents is only worth 2 cents, I have a couple of 
questions: does the paint look re-done? Does it crank and play a record all the 
way through? Does the needle hit the center of the turntable spindle, as it 
would be very difficult to find another tonearm/reproducer that would be 
exactly the right length to fit this cabinet, if it has been altered from 
original. Why would anyone go to the difficulty of altering a cheap machine in 
the first place? A portable would have probably been more expensive in the past 
than this machine and these parts don't really look like a portable - look at 
other CrapoPhones for a comparison. Are there extra holes in the cabinet? These 
things were made in a time when variations were common, so the fibre arm may or 
may not have worked as planned or been too expensive, etc. and may have been 
factory altered with a metal tonearm... who knows? The graining looks good, but 
if it is actually supposed to be dark mahogany woodgrai

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g,


it looks wrong - again variations may have been made, which may still be 
original. Carola and other small machine makers did odd things sometimes and I 
am not sure that the product control was as good as other manufacturers. The 
crank does not appear to stick out too far, and fits the original 
hole/escutcheon from what I can observe... don't totally write it off without 
doing more research. I would email Tim Fabrizio, and ask if he h

Re: [Phono-L] Ray Wilenzick E-mail & Vic III wanted

2011-04-20 Thread Barry Kasindorf
There were 3 Vic III's for sale at Wayne, I think only 1 sold (the one I 
bought). There also were 3 on Ebay last few weeks alone, they are not 
hard to find. You can ask Mike D if he remembers which dealers still had 
them for sale.

-Barry


On 4/20/2011 6:37 AM, Ray & Phyllis Wilenzick wrote:

Bob:
Sorry I can't help, as my collection was sold at Stanton's auction.
Best regards,
Ray Wilenzick
wilenz...@bellsouth.net

- Original Message - From: "Bob Maffit" 
To: "'Antique Phonograph List'" 
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 11:29 PM
Subject: [Phono-L] Ray Wilenzick E-mail & Vic III wanted



Phono Folks:



Does anyone have Ray Wilenzick's E-mail address?

I had a friend over the other day and he wants me to help him with
obtaining
a Vic III. A horn is not necessary, as I have a couple.



I thought I would contact Ray, as he helped me in the past with a Vic
II &
Vic Vi, for which I am very pleased.



Your help with his address and or any phonographs )Vic III)for sale
would be
appreciated.



Later



Bob

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Re: [Phono-L] 3 Known

2011-04-17 Thread Barry Kasindorf

I agree.
But I have a friend who thinks an item is worthless unless he sees it 
sell for a lot on ebay then gets more interested in it, and will only 
bid on something unless it is extremely cheap or he knows there are <10 
known. I keep arguing with him about this but it doesn't seem to matter.
I thought Chuck said 2 more turned up recently, making 9, if he was 
already counting those then I guess there are 6. But those last 3 or 4 
showed up in the last few showed up recently so there is hope. I guess 
it matters if I was going to try and restore a basket case machine. 
Unless it is rare it is not worth the bother. But there are things I 
have that maybe 3 or 4 exist and they are still not worth much or very 
interesting.

-Barry


On 4/17/2011 12:57 AM, Bruce Mercer wrote:

As I said before, I collect these machines not because there are few
known or the $ value. I collect them because they are wonderful
machines. Just because I happen to have a relatively "rare" machine does
not make me the type of collector that has to crow about it. I didn't
bring up the subject of that thread and posted more as a joke.
Apparently I didn't make that clear. I do remember saying that I hope
many more C-1s are found. Everybody should be able to enjoy one. It only
took me 50 years of constant looking to find one.
If there are more than six both myself and Chuck would like to know
about them and their serial numbers.
Can you provide the serial numbers or names of the owners of those other
four (or so) machines? I would be interested,
and I know Chuck would be very surprised, meaning they would have had to
have turned up in the last couple days. If that is the case he will have
a BIG surprise in store. Idle speculation is just that. It's much the
same in collecting reproducing pianos or rare radios like a Zenith
Stratosphere or old cars like a Packard. The unconfirmed babble is often
tainted with a little jealousy, envyor I'm not sure what. Sad. (just
the facts ma'am)
I do agree with Bill on one point, the C-2 upright is easier to load. On
the other hand, the C-1 doesn't have that much wasted space in the
cabinet. The top part is taken up by the turntable on the left and the
radio tuner chassis on the right. Below are four generous record storage
drawers on both sides of the grill cloth which has two oversized
speakers stacked vertically in the back with a large power amp sitting
on the floor. There is not much dead space. The C-2 has plenty of power
but obviously can't match the power of the C-1. Having the turntable
area lit helps quite a bit in sitting down the pickup but it's still a
bit awkward and is really the only complaint I have with the design. I
'still' want to lift the lid.


Bruce Mercer


- Original Message - From: "bta...@realtick.com" 
To: "Antique Phonograph List" 
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 2:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] 3 Known



I hope someday to own a C-2, I think it is just an amazingly cool
machine.
The rarity does not really even factor into it at all. The combination
pickup for lateral & DD, the radio technology, the fact it is the end of
an era. I actually like the C-2 better than the C-1 only in that the C-1
is just so big and looks like a phonograph was jammed in as an
afterthought making record loading etc kind of awkward, although it
certainly is a beautiful piece.
Bill

On 4/15/11 12:05 PM, "Barry Kasindorf"  wrote:


Like The Edison C-2, I thought it was so rare I would never hope to
have one. I have had 3. And Chuck Azzalina had 7 in his basement last
time I was there to fix. He started keeping count thinking the number
surviving was in the 10's and stopped at 200 or so known. Same with
C-1. There were 2 know for the longest time, then 2 more showed up
then 1 more now I think there are about 10 or so out there. It isn't
how many but how cool they are. C-1 and C-2 are very special machines
and would be cool if there were 2000 left. I actually prefer if
something I like is common, it means I can afford it :-). Collecting
just so you can say you have 1 of only 2 known is what some people
collect for but I am not one of them.
-Barry


On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 10:56 AM, Steven Medved 
wrote:


Bruce,

In the case of a machine like yours even if if there are twice as many
existing as are currently known it is a very hard to find machine.

Steve

Steve, I agree completely and hope for collectors interested in these
machines that at least a few more will be found. The thing that
supports the
'few' is that they were made for only a year (more like 10 months),
were
very expensive and a good estimate of orginal production numbered
about 200
machines. Frow wasn't much help. It seems that somebody at the
National
Monument could be a scource of desperately needed information
regarding that
machine and the number mfg.. I bought the machine from Charley H. and
in

Re: [Phono-L] Reproducer Artwork

2011-04-16 Thread Barry Kasindorf

Nice.
-Barry


On 4/16/2011 3:37 PM, john robles wrote:

Hello All
I thought I would post a piece of reproducer arts and crafts for you. I 
received a Pathephone 40 yesterday through the kindness of a Phono-L member who 
responded to my search for one. The reproducer label was aged and blackened, 
and since it is paper you can't clean it without risking loss of the image. I 
found a decent picture of a reproducer online, and..well, the story is written 
on the before and after image at this link:
http://s197.photobucket.com/albums/aa39/john9ten/Pathephone%20reproducer/
Thanks
John Robles
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Re: [Phono-L] Vic III crank

2011-04-16 Thread Barry Kasindorf

OK,
Next time I can get there.
-Barry


On 4/15/2011 10:47 PM, Ron L'Herault wrote:

I've got a home-made one that may be too long but it will get you going if
you need it.  Best bet is to contact George Vollema.

Ron

-Original Message-
From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On
Behalf Of Barry Kasindorf
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2011 11:29 PM
To: Antique Phonograph List
Subject: [Phono-L] Vic III crank

Hi,
Anyone have a female thread Vic III crank? Just bought a machine and the
crank was missing.
Thanks
-Barry
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Re: [Phono-L] 3 Known

2011-04-15 Thread Barry Kasindorf
Like The Edison C-2, I thought it was so rare I would never hope to
have one. I have had 3. And Chuck Azzalina had 7 in his basement last
time I was there to fix. He started keeping count thinking the number
surviving was in the 10's and stopped at 200 or so known. Same with
C-1. There were 2 know for the longest time, then 2 more showed up
then 1 more now I think there are about 10 or so out there. It isn't
how many but how cool they are. C-1 and C-2 are very special machines
and would be cool if there were 2000 left. I actually prefer if
something I like is common, it means I can afford it :-). Collecting
just so you can say you have 1 of only  2 known is what some people
collect for but I am not one of them.
-Barry


On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 10:56 AM, Steven Medved  wrote:
>
> Bruce,
>
> In the case of a machine like yours even if if there are twice as many 
> existing as are currently known it is a very hard to find machine.
>
> Steve
>> Steve, I agree completely and hope for collectors interested in these
>> machines that at least a few more will be found. The thing that supports the
>> 'few' is that they were made for only a year (more like 10 months), were
>> very expensive and a good estimate of orginal production numbered about 200
>> machines. Frow wasn't much help. It seems that somebody at the National
>> Monument could be a scource of desperately needed information regarding that
>> machine and the number mfg.. I bought the machine from Charley H. and in
>> talking with him and at least one other rabid collector, those are the
>> numbers that are known and a good guess as to the number built. Charley told
>> me he had gotten the machine from the original owner in N.J., somebody that
>> had worked for Edison. There were many old pictures, some autographed, all
>> to do with Edison or the Company on the walls, when he got the machine. He
>> thought it to be someone high up in the Company.
>> As far as I'm concerned I hope 100 more turn up sooner than later. It
>> wouldn't affect the value of mine in the least, not to me anyway. Spread the
>> happiness.
>>
>> Very best,
>> Bruce M.
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[Phono-L] Vic III crank

2011-04-14 Thread Barry Kasindorf

Hi,
Anyone have a female thread Vic III crank? Just bought a machine and the 
crank was missing.

Thanks
-Barry
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[Phono-L] TR Cylinders

2011-04-11 Thread Barry Kasindorf

Hi,
I bought a set of 3 Roosevelt blue Amberols at the show Sunday without 
the correct boxes. Has anyone made repro lids for these?

-Barry
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Re: [Phono-L] Charleston by Whiteman's O

2011-01-19 Thread Barry Kasindorf

Interesting.
When I first started collecting I got a nice Victor 110. Then I said I 
need a Charleston record of course. It was so popular and iconic. It 
took 20 years before I was able to get one. I got the Edison DD of the 
Golden Gate Orchestra, great version. This from John was going to be my 
only later 78 of it, so I bid a ridiculous $$ to be sure to get it and 
still lost.

-Barry


On 1/19/2011 6:48 PM, john9...@pacbell.net wrote:

That attempt at scat just made me embarrassed for him!
-Original Message-
From: "DanKj"
Sender: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org
Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 18:32:38
To: Antique Phonograph List
Reply-To: Antique Phonograph List
Subject: [Phono-L] Charleston by Whiteman's O

  The same voice made a four syllable reappearance on "Charlestonette", 4 
months later. I assume he was a band member.

  Here's Charleston, take 5, which has no vocal effects.  There are a couple of 
overmodulated moments, so maybe that's why
this take wasn't used.

http://www.box.net/shared/m8niz5c5ml



- Original Message -
From:



Yeah that is actually funny!
-Original Message-
From: William Zucca

Personally, I never liked the Whiteman version because of the lame try at
scat singing.  I understand that there is a Whiteman version without vocal,
but I have never heard it.

Grnmountain Bill

On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 2:38 PM,  wrote:


I still have a copy of the Whiteman version but I am not that impressed by
it. I might sell it too.


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Re: [Phono-L] Charleston Record on eBay

2011-01-18 Thread Barry Kasindorf

Wow,
I doubled your selling price and I still missed it.
I really wanted that, Oh Well, money went to a good place and it was not 
mine :-).

-Barry


On 1/18/2011 10:25 PM, Vinyl Visions wrote:



Hey John, congratulations - that was a home run...
Curt

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Re: [Phono-L] New Amberola Graphic and other long gone Phono fanzines

2010-12-24 Thread Barry Kasindorf

Too long a drive :-).
If I lived closer...
How much to mail bulk rate? :-)
-Barry

On 12/24/2010 11:13 AM, Mike Stitt wrote:

Come get 'em Barry!
Mike

On Fri, Dec 24, 2010 at 8:05 AM, Barry Kasindorf
wrote:


I have been asking for YEARS if anyone can get those Hobbies articles by
Walsh scanned. I was told there are just too many of them.
Still it is a great resource that is unavailable now.
-Barry



On 12/24/2010 10:37 AM, Mike Stitt wrote:


Thanks for the list. Tom Pollard and Bob from Musical Americana also put
out
news letters. Have many of those listed and another one I just can't
remember nor do I know where I put them, on cylinder records.
The Bob Fulwider (sp)  newsletters were a hoot for the classified.
Pollard's
would make you cry.
If anyone is ever in Southern Oregon I have a large numbers of Hobbies
Magazine. A source that has been "mined" by many for it series on pioneer
recording artists, free for the taking.  It is a VERY important series.

Oldcranky
Mike

On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 7:18 PM,   wrote:



In a message dated 12/23/2010 5:23:34 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
smst...@gmail.com writes:

I really  think it was a true love of labor for Martin. The magazine was
a
bargain as  was most everything he sold. Like many things they come and
go.
Very hard  work. Tim Gracyk  was a pioneer as well. Allen K too. I have
all
of  the APM's NAGs and a great deal of Tim's work. I am grateful they did
what  they did and yes Allen and Tim utilize the internet.  Thank you all
and
all the others too. The list is long.



I'll add to the list...

Cecil Dancer's Gramophone News (I think only 3 issues)


 From the UK: Sounds Vintage (a glossy mag)



 From US The Antique Phonograph News (Published by the Calif society in

the
1970s)

Jerry's Musical News - actually a magazine of Phono classified Ads - by
Jerry Madsen

Of course Hillandale News (now For the Record) - CLPGS

and Talking Machine Review by Ernie Bayly (which petered out after he
sold
it)

and this is just the Phono mags no longer with us, not counting the
vintage
  record ones.

Steve
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Re: [Phono-L] New Amberola Graphic and other long gone Phono fanzines

2010-12-24 Thread Barry Kasindorf
I have been asking for YEARS if anyone can get those Hobbies articles by 
Walsh scanned. I was told there are just too many of them.

Still it is a great resource that is unavailable now.
-Barry


On 12/24/2010 10:37 AM, Mike Stitt wrote:

Thanks for the list. Tom Pollard and Bob from Musical Americana also put out
news letters. Have many of those listed and another one I just can't
remember nor do I know where I put them, on cylinder records.
The Bob Fulwider (sp)  newsletters were a hoot for the classified. Pollard's
would make you cry.
If anyone is ever in Southern Oregon I have a large numbers of Hobbies
Magazine. A source that has been "mined" by many for it series on pioneer
recording artists, free for the taking.  It is a VERY important series.

Oldcranky
Mike

On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 7:18 PM,  wrote:



In a message dated 12/23/2010 5:23:34 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
smst...@gmail.com writes:

I really  think it was a true love of labor for Martin. The magazine was a
bargain as  was most everything he sold. Like many things they come and go.
Very hard  work. Tim Gracyk  was a pioneer as well. Allen K too. I have all
of  the APM's NAGs and a great deal of Tim's work. I am grateful they did
what  they did and yes Allen and Tim utilize the internet.  Thank you all
and
all the others too. The list is long.



I'll add to the list...

Cecil Dancer's Gramophone News (I think only 3 issues)

> From the UK: Sounds Vintage (a glossy mag)

> From US The Antique Phonograph News (Published by the Calif society in the
1970s)

Jerry's Musical News - actually a magazine of Phono classified Ads - by
Jerry Madsen

Of course Hillandale News (now For the Record) - CLPGS

and Talking Machine Review by Ernie Bayly (which petered out after he sold
it)

and this is just the Phono mags no longer with us, not counting the vintage
  record ones.

Steve
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Re: [Phono-L] New Amberola Graphic

2010-12-23 Thread Barry Kasindorf

OK,
Anyone know how to contact him? He has seemed hard to reach in the past.
-Barry


On 12/23/2010 3:05 PM, john9...@pacbell.net wrote:

I'd appreciate the effort, Barry! Just make sure Martin doesn't object!
Thanks
John
--Original Message------
From: Barry Kasindorf
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Subject: [Phono-L] New Amberola Graphic
Sent: Dec 23, 2010 11:55 AM

Hi,
I subscribed to this a long time ago and have most of the issues Martin
printed. I am not sure if he will ever make anymore but I assume not.

I can scan them and make them available online if there is any interest.
It will take a while to locate them and I may need a few fills.
-Barry
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[Phono-L] New Amberola Graphic

2010-12-23 Thread Barry Kasindorf

Hi,
I subscribed to this a long time ago and have most of the issues Martin 
printed. I am not sure if he will ever make anymore but I assume not.


I can scan them and make them available online if there is any interest. 
It will take a while to locate them and I may need a few fills.

-Barry
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[Phono-L] Regina Hexaphone

2010-12-20 Thread Barry Kasindorf
Wow,
Ken Danckaert is a master at Hexaphones. He talked me thru on the phone
getting it going again. There is a trick I never ever would have figured
out to pre-load the spring and get it working again. The problem with
mine is that when it was changed to freeplay a small part was removed.
Unfortunately when you do that it is very easy to over wind the
mechanism and get it out of sync. Ken is going to try to help me make a
replacement for that missing part.
-Barry (a very relieved Hexaphone owner)
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[Phono-L] Regina Hexaphone

2010-12-20 Thread Barry Kasindorf
Hi,
I am a relatively new owner of this amazing machine. I have a copy of
the great article that explains how this 104 mechanism works.

Unfortunately it has gotten out of sync and I don't see any service
instructions on how to get it back in order. At first it had an extra
revolution of the spring barrel before the it dropped the reproducer
after it starts the motor, now the reproducer return spring is not
disengaged when it starts. I don't want to break it. I don't know how to
get it resynched. I thought it did this by itself after running a few
times, one of the changes to the 104 but it doesn't seem to be. Any
experts out there?
-Barry
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Re: [Phono-L] Once upon a time,

2010-12-13 Thread Barry Kasindorf
I went thru some records recently with a friend and found some records I
won at auction and just put away. We opened them to look. I won these in
1999 :-). I love going shopping in my basement, costs a lot less than
ebay. But I had to stop bidding on record auctions because I kept
winning the same records over and over again. Did it again 2 weeks ago.
-Barry


On 12/13/2010 12:44 AM, DanKj wrote:
> Going through boxes of records which haven't been seen since buying them
> is just like Christmas morning!  " I have this? ooo, and this? wow, and
> these! "
> Discovering that I already had a record, but forgot & paid good money
> for another copy - not as much fun as Xmas ... it's more like Tax Return
> day.
> 
> 
> - Original Message - From: 
> To: "Antique Phonograph List" 
> Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2010 10:46 PM
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Once upon a time,
> 
> 
>> I understood. But finding a long laid away phono is like finding a new
>> one :-)
>> John
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Re: [Phono-L] Pathe Cylinder Machine

2010-11-20 Thread Barry Kasindorf
Looks like my Pathe Coq phono.
Very cool machine.
-Barry


On 11/20/2010 10:10 PM, Vinyl Visions wrote:
> 
> 
>  I bought this machine two years ago and just wondered if anyone knows what 
> model it is and timeframe of manufacture. It plays both standard size and 
> salon size cylinders. It is in fabulous condition, the picture makes it look 
> like it has a square spot on the front. That is the original decal and the 
> finish is almost perfect. I bought it because of the unusual horn carriage 
> and the fact that the works flip over and store inside the box, which then 
> looks like a jewelry box with a brass handle on top. Here is the picture:
> http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=170190476338923&saved#!/photo.php?fbid=130673463639224&set=a.130672523639318.12387.130658956974008
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Re: [Phono-L] Edison Opera on ebay

2010-09-18 Thread Barry Kasindorf
So buy it and put the right horn on it. It is SN 37 very early. There
are fiberglass elbows and repro horns. But it needs to be priced right.
-Barry


On 9/18/2010 10:25 PM, Steven Medved wrote:
> 
> I believe the regular Cygnet horn neck would degrade the sound quality.  
>  
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150494547251
>>
>> Looks like Victor to me, too. Also has a regular Cygnet horn neck, not the 
>> special Opera neck. tsk
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> Item # 150494547251
>>>
>>> Is it just me or does this Opera have a Victor wood horn modified to fit 
>>> this Opera?
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[Phono-L] VV crank

2010-06-12 Thread Barry Kasindorf

Hi,
Anyone have a crank for a VV-80? The thread is larger than any spare 
cranks I have. It is an outside thread crank.

Thanks
-Barry
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Re: [Phono-L] Violin phonograph

2010-01-12 Thread Barry Kasindorf
This was for sale on Ebay a month or so ago. There was a debate if it was a
crapaphone or really old.
-Barry


On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 1:49 PM,  wrote:

> Are you sure the item number is correct, I just searched for it and it came
> up No longer available.
>
> Bruce
> - Original Message -
> From: "Bob" 
> To: "Phono L List" 
> Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 1:44:44 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> Subject: [Phono-L] Violin phonograph
>
> Take a look at eBay item #70514114746 . Anyone know if this is an old piece
> or a modern item?
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Re: [Phono-L] What did I buy? Ebay item 220523099867

2009-12-16 Thread Barry Kasindorf
I think that many Ebay sellers claim ignorance about what the phono they 
are selling really is when they know full well it is junk.
If this was a real onsite auction or estate sale you could more closely 
examine a piece, get a better feel for it and make a decision. No matter 
how many pictures you have on Ebay you really don't have the same 
feeling for an item as you do in person.
Saying buyer beware is simplistic in this situation. You still need some 
sense of honesty and cooperation from the seller if there was a 
misunderstanding of what the item is instead of the usual glee taken 
when a novice collector or even a older collector in a hurry 
misunderstands what is for sale and gets taken.

-Barry


On 12/15/2009 11:26 PM, brice paris wrote:

I am a little shocked here.  Not sure who is being taken, item does not seem to 
be misrepresented and the pictures are clear.  A bidder has a responsibility to 
follow through on their contract  win or lose.   What am I missing???





From: William Buchanan
To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
Sent: Mon, December 14, 2009 6:20:44 PM
Subject: [Phono-L] What did I buy? Ebay item 220523099867

Friends,

It's a hard thing to admit that you've been taken, but the good thing is that 
it was not for much and I have not paid him yet. But if this is at least a real 
Victrola I will have no problems paying him.

Can somebody tell me what I purchased?

Ebay item 220523099867

They said it is a Victrola VV I-90 but it's not so what is this?

Thank you Bill



  
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Re: [Phono-L] Never thought it would happen to me

2009-10-22 Thread Barry Kasindorf
Kotton Kleanser is good stuff, I have used it, but someone said it 
leaves the finish soft. I think it works better than gojo. Gojo is very 
good at getting hand/finger smudge off where knobs and lids get used.

-Barry


Douglas Houston wrote:

Oh, indeed. Go-Jo and most other waterless hand cleaners are available with
pumice, and when you buy the stuff, you must look to get the right stuff.
There is one that does the same thing, and is probably the same
formulation. It's called Kotten Kleaner, or something like that. Good
stuff, I understand, for  about 3 times the price.


  

[Original Message]
From: Ron L'Herault 
To: Antique Phonograph List 
Date: 10/22/2009 11:59:06 AM
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Never thought it would happen to me

It is the waterless hand cleaner WITHOUT pumice.   I use a product by


L&D, I
  

think it is  that is sold in the hardware or laundry sections of the
supermarket as both a hand cleaner and a material to remove oil/grease
stains (which it does well, by the way).  The brand is not as important as
not having pumice.  It does not remove/affect the shellac but it does cut
through old hand oils, grease, wax build up.

Ron L

-Original Message-
From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org]


On
  

Behalf Of Tom Jordan
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 11:18 AM
To: 'Antique Phonograph List'
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Never thought it would happen to me

I Googled Go-Jo and found a company that makes a lot of products


including a
  

hand sanitizer.  Can anyone tell me which Go-Jo product you are referring


to
  

and where it can be purchased?  Does it removed the finish or just clean


it?
  

Thank you.
Tom

-Original Message-
From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org]


On
  

Behalf Of Charlotte Mager
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 7:27 AM
To: Antique Phonograph List
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Never thought it would happen to me

There is a fellow keeping a data base of Victors. You can ad yours by


going
  

to http://www.victor-victrola.com

Charlotte aka Waves
http://www.wavesllc.com

On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 11:16 PM, Douglas Houston
wrote:



Of course, I'm not there to see it, but my first guess would be a
  

buildup
  

of grime from all those years. The dining room set here was bought by my
mother in 1925. Our house in Detroit had been heated with coal, as were
many others in those days. On the chairs, on the top crossbar, the top
surface was black, and I assumed that it was the finish. For the first
  

time


ever, I went over the dining set with Go-Jo, and the black "finish" on
  

the
  

top bar got gooey, and wiping it away, a nice walnut finish was exposed.

At the time I bought my VV-XVIII, it needed a good going over to remove
grime, but wasn't as bad as some cabinets I've seen. I went further and
flowed the original shellac finish with alcohol. Except for some areas,
  

the


finish is as new.

I wonder if anyone is keeping a log of serial numbers on these
  

phonographs.


I have the impression that all of the jobs came down the line, and were
consecutively numbered, with no special notation for such special
treatments as electric motor, circassian walnut, or other woods. One
interesting little detail: one of our phono collectors in this area has
  

a
  

XVIII Electric drive. The cabinet has a cute decoratice cover over the
crank hole. Evidently, all cabinets were drilled for the crank.

My XVIII has mahogany finish, and spring motor; a cheapie. The serial
number is 1277. The name plate on the motor board is the copper one. A
  

few
  

years ago, one was on eBay, with a serial number around 1309, and it had
  

an


aluminum name plate. So, it appears that, somewhere between mine and the
one for auction, Victor changed name plates.

At present, I'm getting my Victor Electrola 12-25 put together, checking
everything carefully before I put power to the amplifier. I did the
  

Go-Jo
  

treatment to the cabinet. The finish on it is a mirror. I've never seen
  

a
  

cabinet that old, in that perfect shape. I'm anxious to have it going. I
also have a 12-15 Electrola, and it's dynamite.


  

[Original Message]
From: Andrew Baron 
To: Antique Phonograph List 
Date: 10/21/2009 10:04:42 AM
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Never thought it would happen to me

Thanks, Douglas.  Needless to say, the novelty of seeing this visitor
in my music room hasn't begun to lose its luster, and the XVIII will
soon regain its.

I thought of Go-Jo as well, at least as a first step.  The black
residue is dense here and there, but it must also be darkening the
finish even where it doesn't appear to be built up to opaqueness.

Andy


On Oct 20, 2009, at 4:46 PM, Douglas Houston wrote:



I've had my  VV-XVIII for about 25 years. It took a moment to
realize just
what I was looking at, but $120.00 was a reasonable price,
r

Re: [Phono-L] Paper cone for Polly Portable

2009-09-10 Thread Barry Kasindorf
A few years ago there was someone in Europe making reproductions. They
had a lot of flower designs on them, don't have the person's email anymore.
-Bary


Ron L'Herault wrote:
> I don't know.  
> 
> Ron L
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On
> Behalf Of Chris Kocsis
> Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 10:20 PM
> To: Antique Phonograph List
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Paper cone for Polly Portable
> 
> Thank you Ron, that is splendid suggestion.  If I decide to sell the 
> player, would that affect the value?
> 
> Chris
> 
> Ron L'Herault wrote:
>> How about coating it with shellac?  It would add stiffness and maybe
> improve
>> function.
>>
>> Ron L
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org]
> On
>> Behalf Of Chris Kocsis
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 12:57 AM
>> To: Antique Phonograph List
>> Subject: [Phono-L] Paper cone for Polly Portable
>>
>> I just bought a Polly Portable Phonograph in good condition, but the 
>> paper cone "speaker" is rather worn and doesn't hold together very 
>> well.   It's also lost a lot of stiffness, which I assume is necessary 
>> for best performance.  Does anyone make a replacement or know of a spare?
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Chris
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Re: [Phono-L] Peter Pan

2009-08-04 Thread Barry Kasindorf

The one I want and can't afford is the one with the clock in it.
-Barry


wayne wrote:

Can someone tell me how many different Peter Pans are there.I have seen some that have a 
plate that says "push here to open" and some don't.Also,The name plate.Some 
have many pat.#'s and some have one pat #.Which is early or late.Thanks in advance.
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[Phono-L] 4 spring credenza motor problem

2009-04-30 Thread Barry Kasindorf
In the 4 spring barrel, 2 of the barrels turn as the spring unwinds, if 
the barrels bind on something this can happen. Also I had one where the 
shaft was bent so the center spring barrels didn't turn correctly and 
only had 2 springs worth of power.
-Barry


Douglas Houston wrote:
> This is a sticky one. I have a long shot thought. Victor has a procedure in
> the service notes, that tells you whichn spring to load in the barrel, and
> its direction of winding.Is it possible that one of the springs could have
> nbeen installed in reverse? I'm not even sure if the motor could be nwound
> if that were done, but as I've said, it's a long shot.
>
> I have one of those 4 spring jobs apart now, and I've got to study the
> thing a lot before I re-pack the springs.
>
> (Maybe if you got one of those electric Credenzas like I have, you wouldn't
> have this mess)
>
> Cheers
>
> Doug. Houston
>
>
>   
>> [Original Message]
>> From: Ron L'Herault 
>> To: Antique Phonograph List ;
>> 
> 
>   
>> Date: 4/29/2009 10:55:02 PM
>> Subject: [Phono-L] 4 spring credenza motor problem
>>
>> Hokay, list experts.  I need help.  The original problem was thumping
>> springs.  So, you take them out (done that many times) clean them, and
>> reinstall/relube. This should be pretty straight forward.  And these are
>> 
> the
>   
>> ones with the clip outer ends and bent over inner ends.  They only go
>> together one way.  It winds up fine but only plays 4 sides before it
>> 
> starts
>   
>> to loose power and slow down when you try to play the 5th side.  Sometimes
>> it makes a bit of a scraping sound but nothing is hitting the turntable.
>> What have I missed?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Ron L
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From rvu...@comcast.net  Thu Apr 30 08:55:31 2009
From: rvu...@comcast.net (Bob)
Date: Thu Apr 30 09:01:16 2009
Subject: [Phono-L] 4 spring credenza motor problem
References: <410-22009443014436...@earthlink.net>
<003f01c9c9a2$a2148af0$5cd62...@ad.bu.edu>
Message-ID: <82757b6148154cd28d5e2d2cc3f18...@your4dacd0ea75>

Ron,
Did you wind it fully and play it before you changed the grease to 
eliminate the thumping?  If so how long did it play?  A good four spring 
motor should run about 20 minutes.  If it didn't, it's possible that the 
springs have lost some temper and are weak.The only other possibility is 
a bad record or needle but I'm sure you thought of that.
Bob
- Original Message - 
From: "Ron L" 
To: "'Antique Phonograph List'" 
Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 10:47 AM
Subject: RE: [Phono-L] 4 spring credenza motor problem


>I do have an electric C.   This is a repair for someone else.  The neat
> thing about the clip end/bent end springs is that it is impossible to
> assemble them into the cans in the wrong direction.   It is easy to mess
> them up when you have rivets in the cans and holes on the springs.  They 
> do
> not wind up, and in fact will distort the spring centers, with the real
> potential for breaking them.
>
> Ron L
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] 
> On
> Behalf Of Douglas Houston
> Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 10:05 AM
> To: Antique Phonograph List
> Subject: RE: [Phono-L] 4 spring credenza motor problem
>
> This is a sticky one. I have a long shot thought. Victor has a procedure 
> in
> the service notes, that tells you whichn spring to load in the barrel, and
> its direction of winding.Is it possible that one of the springs could have
> nbeen installed in reverse? I'm not even sure if the motor could be nwound
> if that were done, but as I've said, it's a long shot.
>
> I have one of those 4 spring jobs apart now, and I've got to study the
> thing a lot before I re-pack the springs.
>
> (Maybe if you got one of those electric Credenzas like I have, you 
> wouldn't
> have this mess)
>
> Cheers
>
> Doug. Houston
>
>
>> [Original Message]
>> From: Ron L'Herault 
>> To: Antique Phonograph List ;
> 
>> Date: 4/29/2009 10:55:02 PM
>> Subject: [Phono-L] 4 spring credenza motor problem
>>
>> Hokay, list experts.  I need help.  The original problem was thumping
>> springs.  So, you take them out (done that many times) clean them, and
>> reinstall/relube. This should be pretty straight forward.  And these are
> the
>> ones with the clip outer ends and bent over inner ends.  They only go
>> together one way.  It winds up fine but only plays 4 sides before it
> starts
>> to loose power and slow down when you try to play the 5th side. 
>> Sometimes
>> it makes a bit of a scraping sound but nothing is hitting the turntable.
>> What have I missed?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Ron L
>>
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[Phono-L] [Fwd: Re: Phonograph collector needs help]

2009-02-02 Thread Barry Kasindorf
Maybe someone in the Fla area can help this gentleman.
-Barry


 Original Message 
Subject:Re: Phonograph collector needs help
Date:   Sun, 1 Feb 2009 18:07:19 -0800 (PST)
From:   buck Buchanan 
Reply-To:   ret.army...@yahoo.com
To: Barry Kasindorf 



Barry,

I just got my computer working again and I am still working out some of
the bugs.
I am sorry I did not respond earlier.

Because of the injuries I have I like to stay busy, this way I am
hopping I won't have to take as many pain pills. I don't mind spending a
little money if it means that I can reduce the amount of pills I take. I
don't know if you have ever been in a situation like mine but being
drugged up all the time is not much of a life.

I have had two units mailed to me one large and heavy portable which
cost about $30.00, and a tall Edison which I had found part by part this
one if you add it up was costly becuase I had so many boxes that I had
to pay for shipping on.

I don't think the table tops would be that expense if they have an
external horn there will be possibly two boxes.

My address is

Bill Buchanan
11 Alabama Road South
Lehigh Acres, Fl 33936

Let me know what you find out about the shipping.

I would like to thank you for any help that you may be able to give me.

Your Friend

Bill

--- On *Sun, 2/1/09, Barry Kasindorf //* wrote:

 From: Barry Kasindorf 
 Subject: Re: Phonograph collector needs help
 To: ret.army...@yahoo.com
 Date: Sunday, February 1, 2009, 10:33 AM

 Hi,
 I need to know where you are located, so I can talk to someone nearby
 who can help. I do have junk machines that are good projects but 
adding in the
 postage may not make it affordable anymore.
 -Barry


 buck Buchanan wrote:
 > Barry,
 >
 > I hope
  you don't mind me writing you.
 > I was speaking with Merle Sprinzen (msprin...@juno.com), and he
 > suggested that I get in contact with you.
 > I am a disabled vet, I am current looking for a project machine 
(wind-up
 > phonograph type) to keep busy. I have turned to records and 
phonographs
 > as a way to deal with the pain of my injuries. Merle thought you 
might
 > have a source or knew of where I would be able to locate something
 > really cheap because the VA pays me very little and I have to 
support my
 > family on with they pay me and this leaves nothing for any thing 
else.
 >
 > If Merle was mistaken, I would like to apologize for disturbing you.
 >
 > Thank you
 >
 > Bill Buchanan
 >
 >




[Phono-L] Happy New Year

2009-01-03 Thread Barry Kasindorf
Hi List,
In the spirit of the new year, I will ask again if someone has a part I 
have been looking for for a long time now. Maybe this is my year :-).

I need a wooden needle tray for a Columbia Graphanola Deluxe, this is 
the same as the Regina 240 Reginaphone, large rounded console phonograph 
with carved lion's heads. It has 3 wooden needle trays (one for each 
type of needle) and a swing out metal bowl for used needles under a 
small hole in the wooden top to place the needle. I have this in Oak but 
need the Mahogany version.

Thanks
-Barry


[Phono-L] Cheap Opera

2008-08-24 Thread Barry Kasindorf
There were also wrong pictures on the net.
I was there, the Vic VI was junk, and many of the other machines had
issues that you could not see well from the pictures.The Opera's
bedplate was re-painted (not by taite), the case was refinished, and the
was not that great. Many others were refinished or common machines not
worth paying the shipping. There were some very nice rare machines
there, but not as many as other auctions at Skinner. Plus 20% BP and 5% tax.

The clocks there went 50% over pre-estimates, some by 2X so it was not a
publicity thing, just that phonos are down and clocks are up, and the
top top stuff still gets the $$ and the mid and common stuff is way down.

-Barry


Jim Nichol wrote:
> That's the same thought I had. How can they expect good bids on  
> unknown items?
> 
> Jim
> 
> On Aug 24, 2008, at 3:29 AM, ClockworkHome at aol.com wrote:
> 
>> There were "10 Edison Reproducers"...   but what were they?
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[Phono-L] Mikiphone springs

2008-07-26 Thread Barry Kasindorf
Hi,
Does anyone have replacement springs for a Mikiphone (Watch phonograph)?
-Barry



[Phono-L] What is this? Atwater Kent Type 5V phonograph attachment

2008-06-04 Thread Barry Kasindorf
What is is is a way to play an early battery tube radio thru the 
phonograph horn.
You replace the phono reproducer with this and bingo, a large radio horn 
that sounds better than the small versions of the time and desn;t take 
up space. They are a cool collectible, made by many people.
-Barry


ny victrolaman wrote:
> So I was cleaning out some storage and came across what looks like a large
> 1920s radio horn speaker driver, which I must have picked up someplace years
> ago.  It's about three inches in diameter, with a nine-foot cord, and it's
> quite heavy for its size.  (The driver itself tests very good.)  On the top
> it is embossed "Atwater Kent, Phila" and Type 5V.  After doing some digging,
> I found an old ad for it on that great AK website.  The ad lists it as a
> "Phonograph Attachment," but says nothing about what exactly that is, what
> it does, and how exactly one would use it.  I recall seeing some old ads
> where something of this nature is sitting on a motorboard next to a
> reproducer, but that tells me nothing.  Does any out there know about these
> things?  Anyone own one, or is anyone looking for one?  I'll be happy to
> send you pictures if it'll help clear this up.  Thanks in advance.
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[Phono-L] credenza

2008-05-17 Thread Barry Kasindorf
Cool, I was just going to ebay them. They work fine.
-Barry


VicDoc160 wrote:
> I need 2 dashpots please, vicdoc160 at stny.rr.com
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[Phono-L] Victor Credenza parts

2008-05-16 Thread Barry Kasindorf
Someone else wants the motor but not the board (its Walnut) and I do 
have the lid but it needs re-veneer on the top. Do you need the dashpot 
lifters? I also have those.
-Barry


Bill Boruff wrote:
> Is this a Mahogany or Walnut machine?  I need a motor board and lid  
> in Walnut.
> Thanks,
> Bill
> On May 15, 2008, at 11:14 AM, Barry Kasindorf wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> I have parted out a 2 door Credenza and have case parts, horn,  
>> motor etc
>> available if anyone needs parts before I Ebay them.
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[Phono-L] Victor Credenza parts

2008-05-15 Thread Barry Kasindorf
I have the electric back panels for a 4door but it is in Mahogany, not 
walnut.
-Barry


Douglas Houston wrote:
> I need a set of back panels for a Credenza. Mine is a 4 door model with
> electric motor. I wonder how different they may be, though. I'd almost be
> willing to try, if you have them.
> 
> 
>> [Original Message]
>> From: Barry Kasindorf 
>> To: Antique Phonograph List 
>> Date: 5/15/2008 1:16:01 PM
>> Subject: [Phono-L] Victor Credenza parts
>>
>> Hi,
>> I have parted out a 2 door Credenza and have case parts, horn, motor etc 
>> available if anyone needs parts before I Ebay them.
>> -Barry
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[Phono-L] Victor Credenza parts

2008-05-15 Thread Barry Kasindorf
I will check, I think the pullups are there. I may have the crank, it 
got put with the others and I need to find it.
-Barry
The gold pullups are there and the motor is in the middle.
-Barry


Daniel Melvin wrote:
> I might be intrested in the motor and crank if you have them. Was the motor
> on the right side or in the middle? Also, do you have the motor board pullup
> knobs?
> 
> On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 9:14 AM, Barry Kasindorf 
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> I have parted out a 2 door Credenza and have case parts, horn, motor etc
>> available if anyone needs parts before I Ebay them.
>> -Barry
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[Phono-L] Victor Credenza parts

2008-05-15 Thread Barry Kasindorf
Hi,
I have parted out a 2 door Credenza and have case parts, horn, motor etc 
available if anyone needs parts before I Ebay them.
-Barry


[Phono-L] VICTROLA TRANSPORTATION needed from CT to UNION, CAN YOU HELP?

2008-02-25 Thread Barry Kasindorf
Hi,
Where in Ct and what is it? I may be going to Ohio in May and could get 
it that far.
-Barry


brice paris wrote:
> Is there anyone out there who could transport a victrola from CT to Union in 
> June??  I am willing to pay for such help, or trade for free transportation 
> from the West coast for their goodies.  If you can help I would be very 
> appreciative.  
>   Also if anyone else needs phonograph transportation to Union  from points 
> west of Union , please let me know and I will try to help you out. If given a 
> month or so head start I can usually arrange a pick up most any place out 
> here, and my trip to union is usually a zig zag from Southern oregon.  Let me 
> know of any needs and I will see what I  can do to help.  
>   If some one were headed to the Chicago area before union , but wasn't going 
> to Union , I can arrange for a drop off that will store it until Union.  I 
> know how expensive gas is and I am sure  my payment for hauling the victrola 
> will be welcome if we can work it out .  Your consideration and help will be 
> appreciated.  Thanks  brice 
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From mdsor...@aol.com  Sat Feb 23 17:04:37 2008
From: mdsor...@aol.com (mdsor...@aol.com)
Date: Mon Feb 25 10:27:26 2008
Subject: [Phono-L] Record Storage Rack
In-Reply-To: <22652.94726...@web37010.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <22652.94726...@web37010.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <8ca44985c6d6e25-14cc-1...@webmail-ne03.sysops.aol.com>

I have one made by Jerry and I love it!? I have attached a photo that was taken 
during one of the Golden State Phonograph Society (CA Chapter of MAPS) at my 
house last yearyou can see the cylinder rack in the center.? I would highly 
recommend them!

Thanks Jerry!

Mike Sorter


-Original Message-
From: DeeDee Blais 
To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
Sent: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 2:31 pm
Subject: [Phono-L] Record Storage Rack



For the last few years, I've sold cylinder record
storage racks at Union.  I currently have none
available but if there was interest, I could make a
few more.  They hold eighty eight cylinders and it
displays them nicely on the wall.  The rack will hold
6" XLP cylinders if desired.  The cost is $200 
delivered to Union.  Please contact me off list if
interested.  Thanks, Jerry Blais


  

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From lo...@oldcrank.com  Mon Feb 25 11:01:35 2008
From: lo...@oldcrank.com (Loran Hughes)
Date: Mon Feb 25 11:13:03 2008
Subject: [Phono-L] Record Storage Rack
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Oops, the photo attachment was my fault folks. The system caught it  
and I approved it by accident. For the record, Phono-L does not  
(normally) allow attachments.

Sorry,
Loran
From appywan...@hotmail.com  Mon Feb 25 11:02:31 2008
From: appywan...@hotmail.com (John Maeder)
Date: Mon Feb 25 11:13:15 2008
Subject: [Phono-L] Interesting Edison item on Craigslist
Message-ID: 


Here's an interesting piece of Edisonia . . . is this as early as the patent 
indicates?  Don't know if the price is good or not.  John

http://huntsville.craigslist.org/grd/580738136.html
From gbogan...@charter.net  Mon Feb 25 12:17:18 2008
From: gbogan...@charter.net (Greg Bogantz)
Date: Mon Feb 25 12:17:43 2008
Subject: [Phono-L] Interesting Edison item on Craigslist
References: 
Message-ID: <003101c877eb$6ba95ae0$6400a...@hpa1514n>

That's an Edison motor-dynamo.  The design of it would date to the invention 
of the incandescent lamp in 1879 or thereabouts, so the 1882 patent date is 
probably right.  Edison had to invent the entire power generation, 
distribution, and consumer product line of products right along with the 
lamp to ensure that there was a market for the lamp products.  He literally 
had to invent the entire market for distributed-power electricity in the 
home and much of industry and small businesses.  Most people either don't 
know this or have forgotten it in all the hoopla over the lamp and the 
phonograph.  Unlike Rockefeller and Vanderbilt in his own

[Phono-L] items for sale

2007-02-19 Thread Barry Kasindorf
Yes, sorry
A Par-o-ket is a portable phono with weird horn as I remember, brain cramp.
-Barry


Bob Johnson wrote:
> What the heck is a Par-O-Ket?  Do you mean the Keen-O-Phone?  Bob
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On
> Behalf Of Barry Kasindorf
> Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2007 2:55 PM
> To: Antique Phonograph List
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] items for sale
> 
> I would love an Idealia, can't afford it yet (let me see those lottery
> tickets I bought...).
> 
> Still interested in the Par-o-ket.
> -Barry
> 
> 
> Bob Johnson wrote:
>> OK folks.after 25+ years of collecting, I am starting to sell a few of our
>> phonographs..Here are some that I will post on ebay if no one wants them
> on
>> this list:  Columbia Grand in Circassian Walnut, $7,500, Columbia Symphony
>> Grand, Restored (looks like upright piano) $8,500, Columbia "School"
> model,
>> restored with wheels, $2,000, Edison Idelia, bedplate restored, S.N.
> 65841,
>> mahogany cygnet horn, excellent reproduction lid, shaver, etc.  $25,000,
>> Victrola model XX with gold gilding, 18 of these are known to exist, S.N.
>> 8425, $12,000, Flat Top VTLA S.N. 538, $6000, Flat Top VTLA S.N. 902,
>> $5,500.  Others in our collection might be available.  Go to our website
> and
>> check out the 250+ phonographs. www.mrvictor.com
> <http://www.mrvictor.com/>
>> Email me if you have an interest.  bjohn...@mrvictor.com   Thanks.  Bob
>>
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From cdh...@earthlink.net  Tue Feb 20 10:58:27 2007
From: cdh...@earthlink.net (Douglas Houston)
Date: Tue Feb 20 12:37:54 2007
Subject: [Phono-L] Victor RE-57 found - unmolested!
Message-ID: <410-220072220185827...@earthlink.net>

I've had a few RE-57s over the years, in a range of condition. The most
Iever paid for one (and the nicest one I've had) was $85.00, and it had the
mike and recording weight.everything. Now, I have to allow that it was
a good price, even for the AWA meet at Rochester, but I also think that 500
smackers is about 400-450 bucks too much. 

If it's the only one you've seen and you need it to keep on breathing,
O.K., but I'd just advise that dealer to take good care of it, 'cause he'e
apt to have it for a long time. 


> [Original Message]
> From: 
> To: 
> Date: 2/18/2007 11:02:05 PM
> Subject: [Phono-L] Victor RE-57 found - unmolested!
>
>  
> Hello all,
>   If anyone is interested, I just looked at a Victor RE-57  
> Radio-Phonograph-Recorder with a good looking case, all the hardware.
Apparently  complete! The 
> person at the antique store did not know anything about it as it  belongs
to 
> his partner who was not there. It is priced at $500.
>   It is located at the McMillen Antique Store at McMillen, WA near 
Sumner 
> and Orting which are both near Tacoma.
>
>  
> Rick A.  Jorgensen
> 18021 - 150th Avenue East
> Orting, WA 98360 USA
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[Phono-L] Victor 10-50X in Baltimore

2007-01-18 Thread Barry Kasindorf
Hi,
I found a 10-50X in MD that needs work but is all there and restorable.
If interested I can forward the email address and some pictures, reply 
off list.
-Barry
From steve_nor...@msn.com  Thu Jan 18 19:11:13 2007
From: steve_nor...@msn.com (Steven Medved)
Date: Thu Jan 18 19:11:21 2007
Subject: [Phono-L] Protected Bidding on ebay!
Message-ID: 

Only a complete idiot would assume that their actions were now "hidden" by the 
Bidder X label. Rich
 
I refer to the cheats, there are many idiots on eBay.  The last time I bid on 
an Alva one such idiot wrote me and said he had many Alvas for sale.  I believe 
eBay is going to this system to get rid of this problem, I think it would be 
equally effective if they used a cut off of 200 positive feedbacks as most of 
the cheats are new to eBay and are quickly removed.  I agree, eBay is here to 
stay and at least they are making an attempt to cut down on the cheaters.  The 
cheaters must be costing them money as that is the only way they act, when they 
benefit.
 
Best regards,
 
Steve
From steve_nor...@msn.com  Thu Jan 18 19:18:29 2007
From: steve_nor...@msn.com (Steven Medved)
Date: Thu Jan 18 19:18:36 2007
Subject: [Phono-L] Protected Bidding on ebay!
Message-ID: 

Or, there is also the remote possibility that they also have been fooled. Rich
True, but many times people like you have been of tremendous assistance to me.  
I consider you one of these experts and I appreciate them all.
 
Steve
From rich-m...@octoxol.com  Thu Jan 18 22:23:50 2007
From: rich-m...@octoxol.com (Rich)
Date: Thu Jan 18 22:24:03 2007
Subject: [Phono-L] Protected Bidding on ebay!
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: <20070119062353.92a6f296...@mail.intellitechcomputing.com>

It may be sad commentary on the state of commerce, but I have found that almost 
all companies only act 
when it is negatively impacting the bottom line.  This is why eBay is also hot 
on the excessive shipping 
cost issue.

For those that care, there is a link on every active auction down at the very 
bottom in the "What else 
can you do?" section and the 4th item over from the left is "Report this item". 
 It is only a couple of 
mouse clicks to report excessive shipping charges and no explanation is 
required.

Rich

On Thu, 18 Jan 2007 22:11:13 -0500, Steven Medved wrote:

>Only a complete idiot would assume that their actions were now "hidden" by the 
>Bidder X label. Rich
> 
>I refer to the cheats, there are many idiots on eBay.  The last time I bid on 
>an Alva one such idiot 
wrote me and said he had many Alvas for sale.  I believe eBay is going to this 
system to get rid of this 
problem, I think it would be equally effective if they used a cut off of 200 
positive feedbacks as most of 
the cheats are new to eBay and are quickly removed.  I agree, eBay is here to 
stay and at least they are 
making an attempt to cut down on the cheaters.  The cheaters must be costing 
them money as that is 
the only way they act, when they benefit.
> 
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[Phono-L] Stanton's and a crank

2006-12-24 Thread Barry Kasindorf
Hi,
If anyone in New England or New York wants to give Stanton's auctions 
some things to sell, he will be in Boston Wed and Thursday 1/3/07 and 
1/4 with a truck to take things for the auction in April. Contact him if 
you have things for him to take.

In addition I am in need of a short slotted crank for an Edison suitcase 
home. Supposedly there were reproductions made but I can't find anyone 
who sells them now. Thanks
-Barry




[Phono-L] UPS/packing

2006-12-24 Thread Barry Kasindorf
I thought I bought all your expensive Phonos recently, hand delivered :-).
-Barry
PS the MAPS meeting is 2/10 at Kirk's house.

bob wrote:
> FedEx used to be the best way to ship. Not anymore.  I took a very 
> expensive phonograph there a week of so ago.  It had to go Arizona from the 
> Boston area and FedEx ground was considerably cheaper than Priority Mail and 
> only took a few days more.  However when I told the clerk that I wanted to 
> insure it for over $3000 I got quite a surprise.  I was prepared to prove 
> the value was accurate.  I had the buyers Cashiers check with the item 
> description in the memo section, a copy of the invoice that I attached to 
> the package and even a recent appraisal form a well known dealer.  However 
> the clerk told me that as of Jan 6th the maximum insurance on antiques 
> shipped FedEx ground was $100.  The max for air shipments is $500.  The 
> reason she gave is that if the item is broken or lost FedEx can't replace 
> it.  I guess the powers that make the rules at FedEx don't have a clue about 
> eBay and the vast collector's market that it has spawned.  FedEx's loss will 
> be UPS's gain.  They're still better than the Post Office on large heavy 
> items.
> RMV
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Mike Stitt" 
> To: "phono" 
> Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2006 12:47 PM
> Subject: [Phono-L] UPS/packing
> 
> 
> 
>>I have often wondered why UPS doesn't have a special antique delivery
>>service. Say a 25.00 charge to handle the box carefully. For you money
>>they promise not to kick it, throw it on conveyor belts (or at least not
>>to miss it), stack heavy boxes on it and have the driver not toss it to
>>the ground! I would pay it. Why can't UPS be more like Fed-Ex, a
>>slightly better shipper. I really don't think it is possible any more to
>>package to UPS's "we should not have broken it standard". I do not know
>>what has happened to that company but they don't seem to care anymore. I
>>tease my UPS driver that if I need 3/4 minus all I have to do is ship
>>some big rocks! Can you imagine the revenues from such a charge? Maybe
>>they make to much money now and just don't care. It's a hell of a note
>>when the post office is faster and gentler, and maybe cheaper.
>>Mike oldcranky
>>BTW Fragile is not a term UPS seems to allow. It is not necessary  to
>>mark the box with "FRAGILE"..You must package it so they can't break
>>it. Yep that's right, they do not recognize the term.
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[Phono-L] Aretino spindles

2006-12-24 Thread Barry Kasindorf
Hi,
I have the Aretino 3" spindles done, they came out nicely. If anyone 
still needs one, they are $30 + $5 shipping.
-Barry


[Phono-L] Arentino phono parts

2006-12-24 Thread Barry Kasindorf
Hi,

I am making the 3" turntable spindle casting, the one with "pat apl'd 
for" on it. It will be an iron sand casting. If anyone else needs one 
let me know I can make extras.

-Barry



[Phono-L] Phonographs as an Investment

2006-12-24 Thread Barry Kasindorf
I have a slightly different take.

I have been collecting since I was in my 20's and could barely afford a 
standard and a few cylinders (even at those prices back then). Then in 
the 80's when things got so expensive I sold most of it and collected 
other things. Now that I am older and financially better off, I can 
afford to have phonographs in my collection I could only dream about 
before. The fact most of them have stayed around the same price while my 
income has gone up has allowed me to get them. I have a player piano 
that was $25K in the 80s and I got it for $5K now. I am very glad I 
didn't spend the money back then, but because of the slump I get to have 
one.

I collect them to play and have fun with. People tell me that I would be 
better off selling all the small stuff and get a few nice ones. But that 
is not nearly as much fun. Having a variety and number of differing 
things is why I collect. Looking at the same 2 nice phonos is not as 
much fun as shopping and turning over and repairing many.

I don't do it as an investment, but if I spent my time eating out or 
buying cloths, I would have nothing of any value when I was done, at 
least a phono is worth something when I get tired of it and move on to 
another. I make the investment profit by buying smartly and being able 
to repair what I get and improve it for the next owner.

-Barry

zonophone2...@aol.com wrote:
> hi rene et al
> well said!!! 
> you are far better off to have one or two super machine than a dozen  
> mediocre ones.
> If you had a polyphone, class m, zonophone grand opera, or edison idelia or  
> any of that caliber you would find a demand for them and prices that go with  
> it.
> Most edison , victor, and columbia machines have not changed much in  price.
> As a good friend of mine once said ''buy the best you can afford and enjoy  
> it, its not the number you get but the quality that pays the dividends."
> best to all 
> zono
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[Phono-L] measurements from an Automatic reproducer

2006-12-24 Thread Barry Kasindorf
Hi list,
If anyone out there has an automatic reproducer and a digital calipers I 
need a favor. I have a friend who can make me a limit screw which is 
missing from mine. I only have a sample from a standard speaker and it 
is too short. I need an exact measurement of the diameters and the 
distance between the shoulder and the head of the screw (the travel area 
for the weight). Since the diameters of the stops might also be 
different, the diameter of the stop shoulder and head would also help. 
Thanks
-Barry


[Phono-L] New Victor Orthophonic diaphrams

2006-12-24 Thread Barry Kasindorf
Hi,
I got 2 of these off Ebay recently from Lee Kirk, Anyone use these and 
have any luck with them? I was told it would never be done because the 
tooling was too expensive but these look like they will work OK. You 
have to install your own spider.
-Barry