Re: [PHP-DB] Displaying Password - orale...
Hi Karl, I did some search and found Zend Studio for MAC 5.5. it's $299, but thats a goal at least. Just so you know I fully empathise with both yours and Daevid's situation - you'll probably find a lot of people on this list are in the same boat, as am I. Anyway just a hint - I bought my first Mac in September and I'm never turning back but that's a conversation for another day. The one thing I thought was missing that I couldn't match on Windows was a decent IDE - for both PHP and C++ (my two main freelancer languages.) However someone on this list pointed me in the direction of what I thought was a Java IDE - NetBeans. It turns out it's a damned-fine C++ and PHP editor. It handles code completion of LARGE projects (4,000+ files) ten times faster than others - Zend Studio and Eclipse, and Komodo for instance. Plus it's free :) http://netbeans.org/features/php/index.html I used Zend Studio when it was a stand-alone Java application then switched to PhpEd but unfortunately that's Windows only. I've also tried Eclipse but couldn't get to grips with it. However I feel NetBeans is such a stronger contender than any of these - straight from the word go I just got on with it. Re: the certification - I'm looking at doing a Zend course next year for nothing more than to try and get PHP recognised as a professional skill - I've been programming in it since 2002. I don't know of any other companies that do PHP qualifications, but as Zend is the PHP company anyway they probably mean more :P Hope this helps you anyway. Regards, Andy -- PHP Database Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP-DB] Displaying Password
Hello List, Hope your all ready for the Holidays, I know I am. :) I have a situation where I want to display a users password as bullets instead of the actual password characters once read from the database. I feel there is a better way than what I am doing. I am trying str_replace() with a for loop to loop throuth how many characters and replace each with a bullet when displaying. Like this: $replace_count = strlen($UserPassword); for ($i=0; $i strlen($UserPassword); $i++) { $UserPassword = str_replace('a', '#8226;', $UserPassword, $replace_count); $UserPassword .= str_replace('b', '#8226;', $UserPassword, $replace_count); $UserPassword .= str_replace('c', '#8226;', $UserPassword, $replace_count); $UserPassword .= str_replace('d', '#8226;', $UserPassword, $replace_count); $UserPassword .= str_replace('e', '#8226;', $UserPassword, $replace_count); $UserPassword .= str_replace('f', '#8226;', $UserPassword, $replace_count); $UserPassword .= str_replace('g', '#8226;', $UserPassword, $replace_count); $UserPassword .= str_replace('h', '#8226;', $UserPassword, $replace_count); $UserPassword .= str_replace('i', '#8226;', $UserPassword, $replace_count); $UserPassword .= str_replace('j', '#8226;', $UserPassword, $replace_count); $UserPassword .= str_replace('k', '#8226;', $UserPassword, $replace_count); $UserPassword .= str_replace('l', '#8226;', $UserPassword, $replace_count); $UserPassword .= str_replace('m', '#8226;', $UserPassword, $replace_count); $UserPassword .= str_replace('n', '#8226;', $UserPassword, $replace_count); $UserPassword .= str_replace('o', '#8226;', $UserPassword, $replace_count); $UserPassword .= str_replace('p', '#8226;', $UserPassword, $replace_count); $UserPassword .= str_replace('q', '#8226;', $UserPassword, $replace_count); $UserPassword .= str_replace('r', '#8226;', $UserPassword, $replace_count); $UserPassword .= str_replace('s', '#8226;', $UserPassword, $replace_count); $UserPassword .= str_replace('t', '#8226;', $UserPassword, $replace_count); $UserPassword .= str_replace('u', '#8226;', $UserPassword, $replace_count); $UserPassword .= str_replace('v', '#8226;', $UserPassword, $replace_count); $UserPassword .= str_replace('w', '#8226;', $UserPassword, $replace_count); $UserPassword .= str_replace('x', '#8226;', $UserPassword, $replace_count); $UserPassword .= str_replace('y', '#8226;', $UserPassword, $replace_count); $UserPassword .= str_replace('z', '#8226;', $UserPassword, $replace_count); $UserPassword .= str_replace('1', '#8226;', $UserPassword, $replace_count); $UserPassword .= str_replace('2', '#8226;', $UserPassword, $replace_count); $UserPassword .= str_replace('3', '#8226;', $UserPassword, $replace_count); $UserPassword .= str_replace('4', '#8226;', $UserPassword, $replace_count); $UserPassword .= str_replace('5', '#8226;', $UserPassword, $replace_count); $UserPassword .= str_replace('6', '#8226;', $UserPassword, $replace_count); $UserPassword .= str_replace('7', '#8226;', $UserPassword, $replace_count); $UserPassword .= str_replace('8', '#8226;', $UserPassword, $replace_count); $UserPassword .= str_replace('9', '#8226;', $UserPassword, $replace_count); $UserPassword .= str_replace('0', '#8226;', $UserPassword, $replace_count); } //hide pasword But I keep getting a paramiters error for str_replace. Warning: Wrong parameter count for str_replace() in blah, blah, blah Doesn't strlen return a number value? Thanks in advance. Karl DeSaulniers Design Drumm http://designdrumm.com
Re: [PHP-DB] Displaying Password
Hi, You can't be serious with that. You should try The next code: $UserPassword = str_repeat(#8226;, strlen($UserPassword)); Enjoy. (I hope that you are not a programmer) -- From: Karl DeSaulniers k...@designdrumm.com Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 6:12 AM To: php-db@lists.php.net Subject: [PHP-DB] Displaying Password Never mind. Got it. $replaceArray = array('a', 'b', 'c', 'd', 'e', 'f', 'g', 'h', 'i', 'j', 'k', 'l', 'm', 'n', 'o', 'p', 'q', 'r', 's', 't', 'u', 'v', 'w', 'x', 'y', 'z', '1', '2', '3', '4', '5', '6', '7', '8', '9', '0'); $replaceWith = array ('•','•','•','•','•','•','•','•','•','•','•','•','•','•','•','•','•','•' ,'•','•','•','•','•','•','•','•','•','•','•','•','•','•','•','•','•','•' ); $UserPassword = str_replace($replaceArray, $replaceWith, $UserPassword); //hide pasword Best, Karl DeSaulniers Design Drumm http://designdrumm.com -- PHP Database Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP-DB] Displaying Password
Hi Rick, Yes you are correct. I do not store a plan text password. The conversion code is so they cant read the encryption either. If you cant read the encrypted text, you cant decrypt it right? Thanks for your response. Karl On Dec 22, 2009, at 10:54 AM, lists-mysql wrote: This shouldn't be an issue as you should *never* be storing a user's password in plaintext in the first place. When a password is first set, encrypt it. If a user needs a new password, send a password recovery url to the email address on file (or some other like-minded approach). - Rick Original Message Date: Monday, December 21, 2009 11:12:48 PM -0600 From: Karl DeSaulniers k...@designdrumm.com To: php-db@lists.php.net Subject: [PHP-DB] Displaying Password Never mind. Got it. $replaceArray = array('a', 'b', 'c', 'd', 'e', 'f', 'g', 'h', 'i', 'j', 'k', 'l', 'm', 'n', 'o', 'p', 'q', 'r', 's', 't', 'u', 'v', 'w', 'x', 'y', 'z', '1', '2', '3', '4', '5', '6', '7', '8', '9', '0'); $replaceWith = array('•','•','•','•','•','•','•','•','•','•', '•','•','•','•','•','•','•','•','•','•','•', '•','•','•','•','•','•','•','•','•','•','•', '•','•','•','•'); $UserPassword = str_replace($replaceArray, $replaceWith, $UserPassword); //hide pasword Best, Karl DeSaulniers Design Drumm http://designdrumm.com End Original Message Karl DeSaulniers Design Drumm http://designdrumm.com
Re: [PHP-DB] Displaying Password
Thanks for the blunt response. No, I am not a programer yet. Still very novice. I was aware that there was a way to do that, but I am still learning. Thank you for the tip. Karl On Dec 22, 2009, at 11:44 AM, kapuorigi...@gmail.com kapuorigi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, You can't be serious with that. You should try The next code: $UserPassword = str_repeat(#8226;, strlen($UserPassword)); Enjoy. (I hope that you are not a programmer) -- From: Karl DeSaulniers k...@designdrumm.com Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 6:12 AM To: php-db@lists.php.net Subject: [PHP-DB] Displaying Password Never mind. Got it. $replaceArray = array('a', 'b', 'c', 'd', 'e', 'f', 'g', 'h', 'i', 'j', 'k', 'l', 'm', 'n', 'o', 'p', 'q', 'r', 's', 't', 'u', 'v', 'w', 'x', 'y', 'z', '1', '2', '3', '4', '5', '6', '7', '8', '9', '0'); $replaceWith = array ('•','•','•','•','•','•','•','•','•','•','•','•','•','•','•','•','•', '•' ,'•','•','•','•','•','•','•','•','•','•','•','•','•','•','•','•','•', '•' ); $UserPassword = str_replace($replaceArray, $replaceWith, $UserPassword); //hide pasword Best, Karl DeSaulniers Design Drumm http://designdrumm.com -- PHP Database Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php Karl DeSaulniers Design Drumm http://designdrumm.com
Re: [PHP-DB] Displaying Password
Hi Karl, Yes you are correct. I do not store a plan text password. Great stuff - so many systems I've seen use plain-text passwords it's little wonder there's so much data theft. If you cant read the encrypted text, you cant decrypt it right? Wrong. There are two-way encryption methods requiring the use of a common key, and an initialization vector for some protocols - see the mcrypt library which PHP can use (I had a play around with it quite recently.) http://uk2.php.net/manual/en/function.mcrypt-decrypt.php Regards, Andy -- PHP Database Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP-DB] Displaying Password
Hi Andy, Sorry, I guess I should have explained better. I was speaking about what comes up on the preview page for the information. I wanted the passwords to display as bullets so they could not see the encrypted text, nor be able to copy the text and try it in any decryption process if they happened to get to that page where the information can be displayed. Karl On Dec 22, 2009, at 4:49 PM, Andy Shellam wrote: Hi Karl, Yes you are correct. I do not store a plan text password. Great stuff - so many systems I've seen use plain-text passwords it's little wonder there's so much data theft. If you cant read the encrypted text, you cant decrypt it right? Wrong. There are two-way encryption methods requiring the use of a common key, and an initialization vector for some protocols - see the mcrypt library which PHP can use (I had a play around with it quite recently.) http://uk2.php.net/manual/en/function.mcrypt-decrypt.php Regards, Andy Karl DeSaulniers Design Drumm http://designdrumm.com
Re: [PHP-DB] Displaying Password
Thanks for the tip on the mcrypt. I actually had read up a little about it. I will have to investigate more now. Thanks for the suggestion. Karl On Dec 22, 2009, at 4:54 PM, Karl DeSaulniers wrote: Hi Andy, Sorry, I guess I should have explained better. I was speaking about what comes up on the preview page for the information. I wanted the passwords to display as bullets so they could not see the encrypted text, nor be able to copy the text and try it in any decryption process if they happened to get to that page where the information can be displayed. Karl On Dec 22, 2009, at 4:49 PM, Andy Shellam wrote: Hi Karl, Yes you are correct. I do not store a plan text password. Great stuff - so many systems I've seen use plain-text passwords it's little wonder there's so much data theft. If you cant read the encrypted text, you cant decrypt it right? Wrong. There are two-way encryption methods requiring the use of a common key, and an initialization vector for some protocols - see the mcrypt library which PHP can use (I had a play around with it quite recently.) http://uk2.php.net/manual/en/function.mcrypt-decrypt.php Regards, Andy Karl DeSaulniers Design Drumm http://designdrumm.com Karl DeSaulniers Design Drumm http://designdrumm.com
Re: [PHP-DB] Displaying Password
I see. Good point. Forgive me with my noob approach. I am creating my first database and I guess I was just thinking of how to get everything to work first then though well I can't have the passwords be visible. I would probably have eventually came to the same conclusion, so you all may have saved me a load of unnecessary work. But thank you for the tips on string conversion. Every little bit helps. Karl On Dec 22, 2009, at 4:58 PM, lists-php wrote: correct. if they can't see the encrypted value it's harder to try to decrypt it but ... there's no reason for the encrypted value to be in public view in the first place. when a user enters their password you pass that to your back-end where you encrypt it and test it against the one-way hash that's stored in your db. if it matches, fine, if not you reprompt/reject. but throughout, the stored hash never sees the light of day and the hash of what the user enters is only in the back-end. there's no reason for any version of a password (user-entered string, hash of user-entered string, hash of stored pw) to be on any page that a user can view (rendered or source). that being the case, there's no need to be playing obfuscation games. if you have a preview page and you don't want the user to see any version of the pw there, then don't put it there. if you convert it to some form of blanking, then there's nothing for them to preview anyway, so don't waste the effort. - Rick Original Message Date: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 04:40:22 PM -0600 From: Karl DeSaulniers k...@designdrumm.com Subject: Re: [PHP-DB] Displaying Password Hi Rick, Yes you are correct. I do not store a plan text password. The conversion code is so they cant read the encryption either. If you cant read the encrypted text, you cant decrypt it right? Thanks for your response. Karl On Dec 22, 2009, at 10:54 AM, lists-mysql wrote: This shouldn't be an issue as you should *never* be storing a user's password in plaintext in the first place. When a password is first set, encrypt it. If a user needs a new password, send a password recovery url to the email address on file (or some other like-minded approach). - Rick Original Message Date: Monday, December 21, 2009 11:12:48 PM -0600 From: Karl DeSaulniers k...@designdrumm.com To: php-db@lists.php.net Subject: [PHP-DB] Displaying Password Never mind. Got it. $replaceArray = array('a', 'b', 'c', 'd', 'e', 'f', 'g', 'h', 'i', 'j', 'k', 'l', 'm', 'n', 'o', 'p', 'q', 'r', 's', 't', 'u', 'v', 'w', 'x', 'y', 'z', '1', '2', '3', '4', '5', '6', '7', '8', '9', '0'); $replaceWith = array('•','•','•','•','•','•','•','•','•','• ', '•','•','•','•','•','•','•','•','•','•','• ', '•','•','•','•','•','•','•','•','•','•','• ', '•','•','•','•'); $UserPassword = str_replace($replaceArray, $replaceWith, $UserPassword); //hide pasword Best, Karl DeSaulniers Design Drumm http://designdrumm.com End Original Message Karl DeSaulniers Design Drumm http://designdrumm.com End Original Message Karl DeSaulniers Design Drumm http://designdrumm.com
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Worked like a charm. Thanks for that. Karl On Dec 22, 2009, at 11:44 AM, kapuorigi...@gmail.com kapuorigi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, You can't be serious with that. You should try The next code: $UserPassword = str_repeat(#8226;, strlen($UserPassword)); Enjoy. (I hope that you are not a programmer) -- From: Karl DeSaulniers k...@designdrumm.com Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 6:12 AM To: php-db@lists.php.net Subject: [PHP-DB] Displaying Password Never mind. Got it. $replaceArray = array('a', 'b', 'c', 'd', 'e', 'f', 'g', 'h', 'i', 'j', 'k', 'l', 'm', 'n', 'o', 'p', 'q', 'r', 's', 't', 'u', 'v', 'w', 'x', 'y', 'z', '1', '2', '3', '4', '5', '6', '7', '8', '9', '0'); $replaceWith = array ('•','•','•','•','•','•','•','•','•','•','•','•','•','•','•','•','•', '•' ,'•','•','•','•','•','•','•','•','•','•','•','•','•','•','•','•','•', '•' ); $UserPassword = str_replace($replaceArray, $replaceWith, $UserPassword); //hide pasword Best, Karl DeSaulniers Design Drumm http://designdrumm.com -- PHP Database Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php Karl DeSaulniers Design Drumm http://designdrumm.com
RE: [PHP-DB] Displaying Password - oy vey...
You can't be serious with that?! LOL. Exactly what I was thinking. W.T.F? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXhKzY0BKwY You should try The next code: $UserPassword = str_repeat(#8226;, strlen($UserPassword)); Enjoy. (I hope that you are not a programmer) ...and this is why good programmers can't find jobs in the sea of bad programmers. Everyone puts LAMP developer or PHP developer on their resume, but there is a HUGE difference between knowing syntax (i.e. below example) and UNDERSTANDING a language (above example). Recruiters don't know the difference and the resume with the most buzzwords gets chosen, and the poor company is burdened with testing each candidate (this assumes they known enough about the language themselves to test someone), but more likely, sucky-coder gets paired up with ignorant-company and hence we have horribly buggy bloated programs to use. *sigh* It's up there with people that do this kind of excessive crap: if ($foo == true) { $bar = 5; } elseif ($foo == false) { $bar = 6; } When a simple: $bar = ($foo) ? 5 : 6; Would do the trick. I have often wished there were licenses required to code. You need a license to drive a vehicle. You need one to operate machinery. Why is it that someone needs a license to cut my hair even (which will grow back in a worst case scenario)? But yet the things we rely upon every day to keep our homes, offices, phones, cars, web and cities functioning can be coded by any hack with access to a computer? One doesn't even need a degree or any schooling! It's absolutely absurd. -- $replaceArray = array('a', 'b', 'c', 'd', 'e', 'f', 'g', 'h', 'i', 'j', 'k', 'l', 'm', 'n', 'o', 'p', 'q', 'r', 's', 't', 'u', 'v', 'w', 'x', 'y', 'z', '1', '2', '3', '4', '5', '6', '7', '8', '9', '0'); $replaceWith = array ('.','.','.','.','.','.','.','.','.','.','.','.','.','.','.','.','.', '.' ,'.','.','.','.','.','.','.','.','.','.','.','.','.','.','.','.','.', '.' ); $UserPassword = str_replace($replaceArray, $replaceWith, $UserPassword); //hide pasword [names removed to protect the guilty] -- PHP Database Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP-DB] Displaying Password - orale...
WOW, thank you for that. Guess I should have kept that question to myself and dove into the manuals a little more, but didn't think I would get crucified for asking help. Everyone has to start somewhere and no one knows everything when they start. I agree that one should get a degree or maaany hours of work behind them before entering the world and taking jobs, but at least I am asking for direction and help to become the wonderful programer you already are. Karl (I'm the guilty party, but not a hack) PS: if it makes you feel any better, I am making this for myself and I do not have lead programer on my CareerBuilder profile. On Dec 22, 2009, at 7:39 PM, Daevid Vincent wrote: You can't be serious with that?! LOL. Exactly what I was thinking. W.T.F? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXhKzY0BKwY You should try The next code: $UserPassword = str_repeat(#8226;, strlen($UserPassword)); Enjoy. (I hope that you are not a programmer) ...and this is why good programmers can't find jobs in the sea of bad programmers. Everyone puts LAMP developer or PHP developer on their resume, but there is a HUGE difference between knowing syntax (i.e. below example) and UNDERSTANDING a language (above example). Recruiters don't know the difference and the resume with the most buzzwords gets chosen, and the poor company is burdened with testing each candidate (this assumes they known enough about the language themselves to test someone), but more likely, sucky-coder gets paired up with ignorant-company and hence we have horribly buggy bloated programs to use. *sigh* It's up there with people that do this kind of excessive crap: if ($foo == true) { $bar = 5; } elseif ($foo == false) { $bar = 6; } When a simple: $bar = ($foo) ? 5 : 6; Would do the trick. I have often wished there were licenses required to code. You need a license to drive a vehicle. You need one to operate machinery. Why is it that someone needs a license to cut my hair even (which will grow back in a worst case scenario)? But yet the things we rely upon every day to keep our homes, offices, phones, cars, web and cities functioning can be coded by any hack with access to a computer? One doesn't even need a degree or any schooling! It's absolutely absurd. -- $replaceArray = array('a', 'b', 'c', 'd', 'e', 'f', 'g', 'h', 'i', 'j', 'k', 'l', 'm', 'n', 'o', 'p', 'q', 'r', 's', 't', 'u', 'v', 'w', 'x', 'y', 'z', '1', '2', '3', '4', '5', '6', '7', '8', '9', '0'); $replaceWith = array ('.','.','.','.','.','.','.','.','.','.','.','.','.','.','.','.','.', '.' ,'.','.','.','.','.','.','.','.','.','.','.','.','.','.','.','.','.', '.' ); $UserPassword = str_replace($replaceArray, $replaceWith, $UserPassword); //hide pasword [names removed to protect the guilty] -- PHP Database Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php Karl DeSaulniers Design Drumm http://designdrumm.com
Re: [PHP-DB] Displaying Password - oy vey...
Daevid, Just so you know. Your site does not work on a MAC. Definitely not on Safari and your menus on Firefox (but some things work on Firefox) and I don't even use IE since they dropped support, so I wouldn't know. Not sure if your are particular to PC or LINUX. Just FYI. Me.. I am an entrepreneur and don't have a lot of money, so I must learn things on my own to keep my business growing. Would love to go get the degree, but that is some time away. In the mean time I have to get this created. Just out of curiosity, does my site work on your system? Also, I saw some of the things you worked on. Nice work. (I see your serious about your recruiter comment now) Do you have a suggestion where I can get PHP/MySQL certified? or a good dummies book? Best, Karl DeSaulniers Design Drumm http://designdrumm.com
RE: [PHP-DB] Displaying Password - orale...
Guess I should have kept that question to myself and dove into the manuals a little more, but didn't think I would get crucified for asking help. Everyone has to start somewhere and no one knows everything when they start. Let me apologize. I didn't mean to chastise you specifically. That is why I removed the names from the email. And I also did jump in late to the thread, I was under the impression that the big block of code was what someone else had suggested as a solution to an OP's question. I didn't realize it was your code you were trying to ask the list about. Just so you know. Your site does not work on a MAC. It actually does work on a Mac, just not in Safari ;-) I'm aware of this, and unfortunately, it's a defunct JavaScript library that is causing the issue. The library to do those fancy windows is all written in German and then minified, so debugging it is just a nightmare I don't have the time or care to dig into for a browser that is 4% of the market ( http://marketshare.hitslink.com/browser-market-share.aspx?qprid=0 ) Definitely not on Safari and your menus on Firefox (but some things work on Firefox) All of it should work in Firefox. I use Firefox on Ubuntu and XP (as well as IE6, IE7 and IE8) What doesn't work in Firefox on the Mac? Not sure if your are particular to PC or LINUX. Yes, I am. I bought a Dell Mini9 and hackintoshed it since several friends/fanboys of mine kept extolling the virtues of the mighty OSX. I really WANTED to like OSX. But aside from looking pretty, I found it too dumbed down for me. I like more control over my OS, and when I press the 'DEL' button on a file, well, it damn well should 'DELete'. ;-) Just FYI. Me.. I am an entrepreneur and don't have a lot of money, As am I. so I must learn things on my own to keep my business growing. Understood and empathize. Would love to go get the degree, but that is some time away. In the mean time I have to get this created. Just out of curiosity, does my site work on your system? I believe so. It loads and does a few things. Not sure how much is completed or not to say what it's supposed to do or not do... Also, I saw some of the things you worked on. Nice work. Thank you. (I see your serious about your recruiter comment now) Yes. They bug the shit out of me. Do you have a suggestion where I can get PHP/MySQL certified? I've never been to one, but Zend offers courses that may be worth checking into. or a good dummies book? I find the php.net site to be the absolute best source of examples and information. d -- PHP Database Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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David, If you ever have a question, don't hesitate to ask. Same to anyone. I may have already ran across the problem and found a solution, who knows. I have a feeling I will have more questions than any of you but I digress.. Thanks for the complement. I try not to get into knock down drag outs on email lists. I save that for the bars :)) Besides, I feel their pain. So many people think they can build flash sites (that is what I do) and I miss out on a lot of jobs because like many, I have relied on placement agencies. Another reason why I am building this. ;) Blessings to you, - Karl DeSaulniers The best people in the world are the ones who help each other make it turn. After all, where all here together. On Dec 22, 2009, at 10:16 PM, David McGlone wrote: On Tuesday 22 December 2009 18:05:57 you wrote: I see. Good point. Forgive me with my noob approach. I am creating my first database and I guess I was just thinking of how to get everything to work first then though well I can't have the passwords be visible. I would probably have eventually came to the same conclusion, so you all may have saved me a load of unnecessary work. But thank you for the tips on string conversion. Every little bit helps. Hi Karl, I was wondering, since you are new at programming PHP/MySQL, maybe you and I could learn together. I've been learning for a little over a year, and just thought it might be helpful. By the way, you handled yourself well when some of them started flaming you and don't let them discourage you. -- Blessings David M. I have been driven to my knees many times by the overwhelming conviction that I had nowhere else to go. Karl DeSaulniers Design Drumm http://designdrumm.com
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Thanks for the Zend tip Daevid. I did some search and found Zend Studio for MAC 5.5. it's $299, but thats a goal at least. http://www.tucows.com/preview/504387 Best, Karl
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On Dec 22, 2009, at 10:01 PM, Daevid Vincent wrote: Guess I should have kept that question to myself and dove into the manuals a little more, but didn't think I would get crucified for asking help. Everyone has to start somewhere and no one knows everything when they start. Let me apologize. Accepted. :) I didn't mean to chastise you specifically. That is why I removed the names from the email. And I also did jump in late to the thread, I was under the impression that the big block of code was what someone else had suggested as a solution to an OP's question. I didn't realize it was your code you were trying to ask the list about. No problem, I enjoy blunt answers to questions. I've had enough sweets in my life, I dont need anymore sugar coating. Just caught me off guard. And yes unfortuantely, that was my code. But that is why I'm here ;) Just so you know. Your site does not work on a MAC. It actually does work on a Mac, just not in Safari ;-) I'm aware of this, and unfortunately, it's a defunct JavaScript library that is causing the issue. The library to do those fancy windows is all written in German and then minified, so debugging it is just a nightmare I don't have the time or care to dig into for a browser that is 4% of the You sure about this number, I mean there is now safari on all iPhones as well and they have a BIIIG market. No matter. market ( http://marketshare.hitslink.com/browser-market-share.aspx? qprid=0 ) Definitely not on Safari and your menus on Firefox (but some things work on Firefox) All of it should work in Firefox. I use Firefox on Ubuntu and XP (as well as IE6, IE7 and IE8) IE does not love us MAC people anymore, boo hoo :P Nothing ever worked in it when it was on MAC anyways, so goo ridden. Hell, its one of the only browsers I know that HAS to have special code written (in almost any dynamic site) that will make it work on IE. Too much work to do for a silverspoon application. I would rather force people to download Firefox or Safari. (On my own projects of course) What doesn't work in Firefox on the Mac? The menus were the worst thing when I looked in Firefox, but the main panels and the nav to the left worked. It was the top that was a little screwy. Might have been a CSS thing. Not sure if your are particular to PC or LINUX. Yes, I am. I bought a Dell Mini9 and hackintoshed it since several friends/fanboys of mine kept extolling the virtues of the mighty OSX. I really WANTED to like OSX. But aside from looking pretty, I found it too dumbed down for me. I like more control over my OS, and when I press the 'DEL' button on a file, well, it damn well should 'DELete'. ;-) Well you can do that by pressing the apple button + delete. Just FYI. Me.. I am an entrepreneur and don't have a lot of money, As am I. so I must learn things on my own to keep my business growing. Understood and empathize. Would love to go get the degree, but that is some time away. In the mean time I have to get this created. Just out of curiosity, does my site work on your system? I believe so. It loads and does a few things. Not sure how much is completed or not to say what it's supposed to do or not do... Also, I saw some of the things you worked on. Nice work. Thank you. (I see your serious about your recruiter comment now) Yes. They bug the shit out of me. If you want them to stop. Call them every day about jobs. Do you have a suggestion where I can get PHP/MySQL certified? I've never been to one, but Zend offers courses that may be worth checking into. or a good dummies book? I find the php.net site to be the absolute best source of examples and information.\ I do concur. Best, Karl DeSaulniers Design Drumm http://designdrumm.com