[PHP-DEV] Bug #14750 Updated: exit signal Floating point exception (8)

2001-12-29 Thread bugs
ID: 14750 User updated by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reported By: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Old Status: Feedback Status: Open Bug Type: Reproducible crash Operating System: FreeBSD 4.4-RELEASE #0 PHP Version: 4.1.1 New Comment: This works, if it's alone on the page. exit((string)0.1); and this one works

Re: [PHP-DEV] References - good or bad

2001-12-29 Thread Andi Gutmans
At 08:20 AM 12/29/2001 +0800, Alan Knowles wrote: Andi Gutmans wrote: As I mentioned on the ZE2 mailing list there general rule of thumb is: a) Objects should be passed by reference. b) Everything else including arrays should be used by value whenever possible semantically. In the ZE2 objects

[PHP-DEV] Bug #14750 Updated: exit signal Floating point exception (8)

2001-12-29 Thread mfischer
ID: 14750 Updated by: mfischer Reported By: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Old Status: Open Status: Feedback Bug Type: Reproducible crash Operating System: FreeBSD 4.4-RELEASE #0 PHP Version: 4.1.1 New Comment: And what about CGI (command line)? Previous Comments:

[PHP-DEV] Bug #14750 Updated: exit signal Floating point exception (8)

2001-12-29 Thread mfischer
ID: 14750 Updated by: mfischer Reported By: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Status: Feedback Bug Type: Reproducible crash Operating System: FreeBSD 4.4-RELEASE #0 PHP Version: 4.1.1 New Comment: No matter what I did, I can't reproduce this. Either with apache 1.3.22 mod_php nor command line version.

Re: [PHP-DEV] Getting rid of --disable-session configure option.

2001-12-29 Thread Yasuo Ohgaki
Sascha Schumann wrote: Problem is in loading *.so file at start up. Session module is designed to provide globals for sub modules, if session module is not compiled in and user load sub module, it spits undefined symbol error at start up. Runtime undefined symbol error for perfectly valid

[PHP-DEV] Bug #14072 Updated: PHP Causes OpenLink Request Broker (odbc_mv.exe) to Segfault upon odbc_do, etc.

2001-12-29 Thread lobbin
ID: 14072 Updated by: lobbin Reported By: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Old Status: Feedback Status: Closed Bug Type: ODBC related Operating System: FreeBSD 4.3 PHP Version: 4.0.6 Assigned To: ahill New Comment: No feedback. Closing. Previous Comments:

[PHP-DEV] Bug #14751: [critical!] mozilla downloads source of .php files

2001-12-29 Thread jm
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Operating system: redhat 7.1 glibc2.2.4 kernel2.4 PHP version: 4.1.1 PHP Bug Type: Apache related Bug description: [critical!] mozilla downloads source of .php files I don't exactly understand how this happens, but with a Apache+mod_ssl server,

[PHP-DEV] Shootout

2001-12-29 Thread Markus Fischer
In case someone missed it (ok, I just stumbled by accident over it), here's an language shootout (including PHP of course): http://www.bagley.org/~doug/shootout/ -- Please always Cc to me when replying to me on the lists. -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To

[PHP-DEV] Bug #14751 Updated: [critical!] mozilla downloads source of .php files

2001-12-29 Thread info
ID: 14751 User updated by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reported By: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Status: Open Bug Type: Apache related Operating System: redhat 7.1 glibc2.2.4 kernel2.4 PHP Version: 4.1.1 New Comment: seems resolved for us. This phenomenon occurs if the SSL-VirtualHost entry's ServerName differs

[PHP-DEV] Bug #14752: missing changelog item

2001-12-29 Thread albert
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Operating system: N/A PHP version: 4.1.1 PHP Bug Type: Documentation problem Bug description: missing changelog item On the php 4.1.0 changelog page on php.net, there's no mention of the (correctly) fixed return values of strtok(). This is, on the

[PHP-DEV] Bug #14740 Updated: fsockopen() won't timeout

2001-12-29 Thread l0cky
ID: 14740 User updated by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reported By: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Status: Open Bug Type: Sockets related Operating System: Win98 and Win2k PHP Version: 4.1.0 New Comment: ok to clarify.. seems like this is a common mistake fsockopen() times out ok if the server doesn't exist. The

Re: [PHP-DEV] Patch regarding 4.0.x - 4.1

2001-12-29 Thread Sebastian Bergmann
Martin Jansen wrote: The following patch changes the version number in the output of phpinfo() from 4.0 to 4. Could anyone with enough karma please commit it or give me the karma to do it myself? Done. -- Sebastian Bergmann http://sebastian-bergmann.de/

[PHP-DEV] Bug #14753: a bug about Ora_pLogon

2001-12-29 Thread genbin
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Operating system: Win2000AdvServer PHP version: 4.1.1 PHP Bug Type: Unknown/Other Function Bug description: a bug about Ora_pLogon run at pl/sql developer: /++/ SQL select * from

[PHP-DEV] Re: Shootout

2001-12-29 Thread August Zajonc
It should be noted that the shootout reflects rather poorly on PHP. Ranks second to last on the overall scorecard, partly because it is missing some tests. On the tests it does perform on a quick check shows it generally uses significantly more CPU time to do various computations then many of the

[PHP-DEV] Re: Shootout

2001-12-29 Thread August Zajonc
Can someone run a few of these tests on a machine with --disable-debug. I'd be curious to know how much of a difference that might make. -AZ -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Shootout

2001-12-29 Thread August Zajonc
This is not really surprising, and the test is not really fair, the PHP code is not written by an experienced php programmer, and thus, would naturally be slower, on person benchmarks like this are simply too dependent on the person writing the code. -Sterling Give me a

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Shootout

2001-12-29 Thread August Zajonc
This is not really surprising, and the test is not really fair, the PHP code is not written by an experienced php programmer, and thus, would naturally be slower, on person benchmarks like this are simply too dependent on the person writing the code. -Sterling Give me a

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Shootout

2001-12-29 Thread August Zajonc
This is not really surprising, and the test is not really fair, the PHP code is not written by an experienced php programmer, and thus, would naturally be slower, on person benchmarks like this are simply too dependent on the person writing the code. -Sterling Give me a

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Shootout

2001-12-29 Thread Zeev Suraski
Could you specify which $n you were using, and also provide the equivalent Perl script that you used? Zeev On Sat, 29 Dec 2001, August Zajonc wrote: This is not really surprising, and the test is not really fair, the PHP code is not written by an experienced php programmer, and

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Shootout

2001-12-29 Thread August Zajonc
Sure, These are not my tests but Doug's. He compiled default so --debug and --inline-optimization not kicking in. Startup cost also counted, but he tried to run long enough to amortize that. n was 16. perl code was something like this. #!/usr/local/bin/perl # $Id: nestedloop.perl,v 1.2

[PHP-DEV] Bug #14754: java.* configuration values from php.ini lost on subsequent executions

2001-12-29 Thread j . kase
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Operating system: Windows 2000 SP2 / Apache 1.3.22 PHP version: 4.1.0 PHP Bug Type: Dynamic loading Bug description: java.* configuration values from php.ini lost on subsequent executions This is similar to bug#6990, but since I could no longer

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Shootout

2001-12-29 Thread Zeev Suraski
Taking that code and coupling the Zend Optimizer, PHP and Perl were approximately the same speed (Perl was 8% faster, but that probably varies across platforms). W/o the optimizer PHP was 2 times slower, but again, that's only because this is not a very real-world piece of code, at least for our

[PHP-DEV] [IMPORTANT] wishes for php ...

2001-12-29 Thread Wolfgang Drews
Hi, this one goes out to you Coder! My wishes for the next year are simple and easy to understand - PLEASE DOCCUMENT YOUR CODE! Ask yourself, for who you are coding. You give your sparetime to code things for PHP, and i think you do this, because you will bring it on. Do you

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Shootout

2001-12-29 Thread Sebastian Bergmann
August Zajonc wrote: These are not my tests but Doug's. He compiled default so --debug and --inline-optimization not kicking in. Startup cost also counted, but he tried to run long enough to amortize that. By default, PHP is built without debugging. By the way, what happened to the plan

[PHP-DEV] preg_match_all() weirdness

2001-12-29 Thread Sebastian Bergmann
pre ?php preg_match_all('/\php:([^]]+)\/\/im', 'php:foo var1=value1 var2=value2 /', $pi ); print_r($pi); ? /pre prints Array ( [0] = Array ( [0] = )

Re: [PHP-DEV] preg_match_all() weirdness

2001-12-29 Thread Daniel Lorch
Hi, preg_match_all('/\php:([^]]+)\/\/im', 'php:foo var1=value1 var2=value2 /', shouldn't this be [^]+ instead of [^]]+ Kind Regards, Daniel Lorch -- if(empty($a) == true ? true : false) -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, e-mail:

Re: [PHP-DEV] preg_match_all() weirdness

2001-12-29 Thread Daniel Lorch
Hi, preg_match_all('/\php:([^]]+)\/\/im', 'php:foo var1=value1 var2=value2 /', shouldn't this be [^]+ instead of [^]]+ Kind Regards, Daniel Lorch -- if(empty($a) == true ? true : false) -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, e-mail:

[PHP-DEV] Bug #12223 Updated: ldap rebind procedure implementation

2001-12-29 Thread venaas
ID: 12223 Updated by: venaas Reported By: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Old Status: Open Status: Analyzed Bug Type: LDAP related Operating System: any PHP Version: 4.0.6 Old Assigned To: Assigned To: venaas New Comment: There is now an experimental implementation. Please test it. It currently requires you

[PHP-DEV] Bug #14754 Updated: java.* configuration values from php.ini lost on subsequent executions

2001-12-29 Thread j . kase
ID: 14754 User updated by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reported By: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Status: Open Bug Type: Dynamic loading Operating System: Windows 2000 SP2 / Apache 1.3.22 PHP Version: 4.1.0 New Comment: Another note. Users with Linux systems experiencing the same bug reported receiving errors and

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Shootout

2001-12-29 Thread George Schlossnagle
Sucks when you need to use a proprietary extension to a language to make it benchmark well. George On Saturday, December 29, 2001, at 12:27 PM, Zeev Suraski wrote: Taking that code and coupling the Zend Optimizer, PHP and Perl were approximately the same speed (Perl was 8% faster, but that

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Shootout

2001-12-29 Thread August Zajonc
Interesting... There are a couple of other tests that PHP does poorly on. http://www.bagley.org/~doug/shootout/lang/php/ might be worth looking at. --enable-inline-optimization only made a small difference for me. Generally my results matched up pretty closely with Dougs for the few tests I did

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Shootout

2001-12-29 Thread Prottoss
Another question, what CFLAGS/CPPFLAGS were used during the compliation of the test programs for languages that allow compilation? As well as what cflags were used to compile the intepreters for languages that do not compile individual programs such as PHP AWK. In my experience even

Re[2]: [PHP-DEV] Re: Shootout

2001-12-29 Thread Daniel Lorch
Hi, $Id: nestedloop.php,v 1.1 2001/05/06 06:13:21 doug Exp $ http://www.bagley.org/~doug/shootout/ these benchmarks aren't significant, anyway. java code will run faster on a native java CPU, so basically it's also architecture-dependant. but nice work, nevertheless! really interesting to

Re[2]: [PHP-DEV] Re: Shootout

2001-12-29 Thread Daniel Lorch
Hi, Sucks when you need to use a proprietary extension to a language to make it benchmark well. it would be nice to see PHP w and w/o ZEND competing against each other. but I don't think the raw cpu usage can be taken as a indicator for judging a language. there are many other bottlenecks

[PHP-DEV] CVS Account Request: joerg

2001-12-29 Thread Joerg Behrens
Contribute to the PHP documentation. Documentate missing functions und translate documentation into german. -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators,

[PHP-DEV] Bug #14755: 105.05$ becomes 105.5$ !!! - I found the fix.

2001-12-29 Thread giancarlo
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Operating system: ALL PHP version: 4.1.1 PHP Bug Type: InterBase related Bug description: 105.05$ becomes 105.5$ !!! - I found the fix. Hello. I found a nasty bug in interbase extension, and I have the solution here. You have only to put it in the

[PHP-DEV] CVS Account Request: mazen

2001-12-29 Thread Marcel Beerta
I want to help translating the Manual into german and/or documenting new extensions. -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re[3]: [PHP-DEV] Re: Shootout

2001-12-29 Thread Daniel Lorch
Hi, but I don't think the raw cpu usage can be taken as a indicator for judging a language. there are many other bottlenecks which play a much more important role: database speed, file access latency (whatever you need for storage). just wanted to add something: java is quite successful in

[PHP-DEV] Re: CVS Account Request: bradmssw

2001-12-29 Thread Jim Winstead
Brad House [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have written an extension to php for the MCVE engine. It can be loaded as a module or compiled into the code base, and would like to have it distributed with PHP. I would need commit access in order to maintain the module. The product, MCVE is a credit

Re: [2]: [PHP-DEV] Re: Shootout

2001-12-29 Thread Alexander Wagner
Daniel Lorch wrote: it would be nice to see PHP w and w/o ZEND competing against each other. Zend what? I'd like to see it with/without ZendAccelerator. absolutely *no* reasonable programmer will ever use PHP to calculate prime numbers or fractals (maybe with mathematical extensions, but

Re[2]: [2]: [PHP-DEV] Re: Shootout

2001-12-29 Thread Daniel Lorch
Hi, it would be nice to see PHP w and w/o ZEND competing against each other. Zend what? I'd like to see it with/without ZendAccelerator. yes, that's what I meant :) Perl and the like are used a lot in bio-informatics, and they are scripting-languages. Even in CPU-intensive areas, ease

Re: [PHP-DEV] preg_match_all() weirdness

2001-12-29 Thread Sebastian Bergmann
Daniel Lorch wrote: shouldn't this be [^]+ instead of [^]]+ This yields the same result. -- Sebastian Bergmann http://sebastian-bergmann.de/ http://phpOpenTracker.de/ Did I help you? Consider a gift: http://wishlist.sebastian-bergmann.de/ -- PHP Development Mailing

Re: [3]: [PHP-DEV] Re: Shootout

2001-12-29 Thread Alexander Wagner
Daniel Lorch wrote: just wanted to add something: java is quite successful in commercial applications. not because it's fast, but because you have an excellent ability for code reusage. you can compile java beans into both applets and servlets. people are ready to pay the loss of

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Shootout

2001-12-29 Thread August Zajonc
- Original Message - From: Sterling Hughes [EMAIL PROTECTED] The point, if you'd really like to know is that PHP is *not* optimized to do matrix operations (which is one of the examples), or infinitely recursive loops (I'm not even addressing the code at this point)

Re: Re[2]: [2]: [PHP-DEV] Re: Shootout

2001-12-29 Thread August Zajonc
Mmmm :) I suggest you check out php-gtk. People are writing mail clients in PHP (and they are actually *suprisingly* good). The strengths of PHP (and time spent learning it) in one area carry over to others. We'll have to be wondering about misuse when a CS student writes an operating system in

Re: Re[2]: [PHP-DEV] Re: Shootout

2001-12-29 Thread James Moore
need for storage). absolutely *no* reasonable programmer will ever use PHP to calculate prime numbers or fractals (maybe with mathematical extensions, but not with raw PHP code). Hey I have a little PHP-GTK app that does simple fractals... whats wrong with that??? :P - James -- PHP

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Shootout

2001-12-29 Thread Roberto Biancardi
August Zajonc wrote: - Original Message - From: Sterling Hughes [EMAIL PROTECTED] The point, if you'd really like to know is that PHP is *not* optimized to do matrix operations (which is one of the examples), or infinitely recursive loops (I'm not even addressing

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: CVS Account Request: bradmssw

2001-12-29 Thread James Moore
I have written an extension to php for the MCVE engine. It can be loaded as a module or compiled into the code base, and would like to have it distributed with PHP. I would need commit access in order to maintain the module. The product, MCVE is a credit card processing engine

[PHP-DEV] Bug #14756: pow(0,[broken power]) gives wrong result

2001-12-29 Thread php
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Operating system: Linux (Debian 2.2) PHP version: 4.1.1 PHP Bug Type: Math related Bug description: pow(0,[broken power]) gives wrong result The pow() function returns incorrect results when raising zero to a broken power. pow(0,0.5) (the square

[PHP-DEV] Bug #14757: Apache 1.3.22 can't load the PHP4Apache module

2001-12-29 Thread Alderfalder
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Operating system: Windows 2000 PHP version: 4.1.0 PHP Bug Type: Apache related Bug description: Apache 1.3.22 can't load the PHP4Apache module I installed PHP to the default Path and putted in the httpd.conf file folowed code: LoadModule

[PHP-DEV] Bug #14757 Updated: Apache 1.3.22 can't load the PHP4Apache module

2001-12-29 Thread cmk
ID: 14757 Updated by: cmk Reported By: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Old Status: Open Status: Feedback Bug Type: Apache related Operating System: Windows 2000 PHP Version: 4.1.0 New Comment: Have you copied your php4ts.dll to the %SystemRoot%\system32 directory? Previous Comments:

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: is_array_multidimensional

2001-12-29 Thread Andi Gutmans
At 09:06 PM 12/29/2001 +, Jim Winstead wrote: Derick Rethans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Log: - Added extra parameter to count() that recursively counts elements in an array and added is_array_multidimensional(). (patch by Vlad Bosinceanu [EMAIL PROTECTED]) do we really want to

[PHP-DEV] Bug #14747 Updated: Return exitcodes to shell ($?)

2001-12-29 Thread bernd . herbold
ID: 14747 User updated by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reported By: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Status: Suspended Bug Type: Feature/Change Request Old Operating System: Operating System: Windows 2000 with mks-tools Old PHP Version: 4.1.1 PHP Version: 4.0.6 New Comment: Sorry, I just tried your suggestion under

[PHP-DEV] Fwd: [Zend Engine 2] Zend Engine 2 Examples

2001-12-29 Thread Andi Gutmans
I sent this out to the engine 2 mailing list yesterday. I didn't want to receive too many bug reports at once so I decided to wait a day before I send it to php-dev (although most of you are probably on that list too). Please try and mess around with it. An example script of features is

[PHP-DEV] Bug #14757 Updated: Apache 1.3.22 can't load the PHP4Apache module

2001-12-29 Thread Alderfalder
ID: 14757 User updated by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reported By: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Old Status: Feedback Status: Closed Bug Type: Apache related Operating System: Windows 2000 PHP Version: 4.1.0 New Comment: Yeah I have found the problem. I've fergotten to copy the zip-package. thx for help. PS: I

[PHP-DEV] Bug #14757 Updated: Apache 1.3.22 can't load the PHP4Apache module

2001-12-29 Thread mfischer
ID: 14757 Updated by: mfischer Reported By: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Old Status: Closed Status: Bogus Bug Type: Apache related Operating System: Windows 2000 PHP Version: 4.1.0 New Comment: It's bogus anyway. Previous Comments:

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: is_array_multidimensional

2001-12-29 Thread Stig Venaas
On Sat, Dec 29, 2001 at 11:13:11PM +0200, Andi Gutmans wrote: I agree with Jim. Arrays can contain things. Things can also be other arrays. You can have an array which contains two other arrays and four integers. I don't think we should add these functions because they are wrong

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: is_array_multidimensional

2001-12-29 Thread Andi Gutmans
At 10:42 PM 12/29/2001 +0100, Stig Venaas wrote: On Sat, Dec 29, 2001 at 11:13:11PM +0200, Andi Gutmans wrote: I agree with Jim. Arrays can contain things. Things can also be other arrays. You can have an array which contains two other arrays and four integers. I don't think we should add

[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-DOC] Re: [PHP-DEV] [IMPORTANT] wishes for php ...

2001-12-29 Thread Egon Schmid
From: Markus Fischer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ah, and btw, that's what we've the documentation team for, no? If we get no information there will be no documentation. I see the faqt, that extension authors aren´t able or will not write correct prototype folding hooks. Please read yourself

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-DOC] Re: [PHP-DEV] [IMPORTANT] wishes for php ...

2001-12-29 Thread Markus Fischer
On Sat, Dec 29, 2001 at 10:43:32PM +0100, Egon Schmid wrote : From: Markus Fischer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ah, and btw, that's what we've the documentation team for, no? If we get no information there will be no documentation. I see the faqt, that extension authors aren´t able or will not

RE: [PHP-DEV] Re: Shootout

2001-12-29 Thread Mike Robinson
August Zajonc continues with ... I continue to see these stupid trivial benchmarks as useful. The benchmark code is pre-alpha and incomplete as the author states expressly. 'Useful' does not imply reliable, factual, or scientific. In my view, what I've seen and read is neither useful, nor

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Shootout

2001-12-29 Thread Zeev Suraski
At 00:11 30/12/2001, August Zajonc wrote: Does the Zend Cache or APC Cache do things I wasn't aware of? Did you run these examples under these caches and see PHP start smoking? Sterling, generally these products just cache the result of an intermediate compilation step, they do not speed up the

[PHP-DEV] RE: [PHP-DOC] Re: [PHP-DEV] [IMPORTANT] wishes for php ...

2001-12-29 Thread Wolfgang Drews
Ok, we will start off with removing ext/socket and ext/domxml. Their manuel pages have been adapted with the function calls by Hartmut (thx!) but yet they aren't really documented. Gread idea, no? You should read my mail carefully before getting funny. What i wrote Do not

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: is_array_multidimensional

2001-12-29 Thread Vlad Bosinceanu
Andi Gutmans wrote: At 10:42 PM 12/29/2001 +0100, Stig Venaas wrote: On Sat, Dec 29, 2001 at 11:13:11PM +0200, Andi Gutmans wrote: I agree with Jim. Arrays can contain things. Things can also be other arrays. You can have an array which contains two other arrays and four integers. I

Re: [PHP-DEV] [IMPORTANT] wishes for php ...

2001-12-29 Thread Markus Fischer
Obviously, you shouldn't have taken this mail too seriously. Did you!? ;-) On Sat, Dec 29, 2001 at 11:17:11PM +0100, Wolfgang Drews wrote : Ok, we will start off with removing ext/socket and ext/domxml. Their manuel pages have been adapted with the function calls by

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Shootout

2001-12-29 Thread August Zajonc
Mike, I would suggest you look at the totally bogus mindcraft benchmarks of linux/apache. Those were orders of magnitude more bogus than anything here, yet ended up being useful. Further, many posters seem to confuse a discussion of PHP's performance with a dicusion of its quality as a language

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Shootout

2001-12-29 Thread August Zajonc
- Original Message - From: Zeev Suraski [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you use caching software, chances are PHP will be faster than Perl even without the optimizer. Interestingly, Perl is getting bytecode caching soon, RFC 301 I think. Probably about time. And it does that without any hassle

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Shootout

2001-12-29 Thread Zeev Suraski
At 04:07 30/12/2001, August Zajonc wrote: - Original Message - From: Zeev Suraski [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you use caching software, chances are PHP will be faster than Perl even without the optimizer. Interestingly, Perl is getting bytecode caching soon, RFC 301 I think. Probably about

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Shootout

2001-12-29 Thread August Zajonc
- Original Message - From: Sterling Hughes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Manuel, (I get all the trolls confused, one name makes it easier) These trolls happen to use PHP on a daily basis, and have for years. Always good to see the name calling start early :) Thanks! I wasn't aware

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Shootout

2001-12-29 Thread August Zajonc
- Original Message - From: Zeev Suraski [EMAIL PROTECTED] That RFC is from over a year ago, what makes you think it's going to happen soon..? It still remains to be seen if they do it in a nice, clean transparent way, or the Perl way :) Anyway, the other problems plaguing Perl

Re: [PHP-DEV] Bug #14538 Updated: dirname fix brokebehaviourthat it had since PHP 3

2001-12-29 Thread Manuel Lemos
Hello, I thought that this thread was over. Anyway, I finally made time to ban the functions that you broke from my site code. Since it gave me a lot of work and I feel that others could also benefit of the workarounds functions that I had to develop, I have just released a a class and some

[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-DOC] Re: [PHP-DEV] [IMPORTANT] wishes for php ...

2001-12-29 Thread Egon Schmid
From: Markus Fischer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Obviously, you shouldn't have taken this mail too seriously. Did you!? ;-) We expect on serious postings only serious responses. The best thing we can do is to do nothing. -Egon -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Shootout

2001-12-29 Thread George Schlossnagle
So? Anybody worth their salt as a programmer would consider the Zend Optimizer if they needed to speed up their production website. Not if they can't afford the (old) Zend Accelerator pricing and it didn't have a trial option and are using a free alternative which is

RE: [PHP-DEV] Re: Shootout

2001-12-29 Thread Mike Robinson
Zeev Suraski writes: Well, I think that benchmarking PHP like that out of any context is *bound* to result in many people getting the wrong ideas. So, a big disclaimer reading This may not necessarily have any real world meaning was due. You betcha, wrong ideas I was about to activate

RE: [PHP-DEV] Re: Shootout

2001-12-29 Thread Zeev Suraski
I have to say that taking a look at his site again - he does have disclaimers. Even though none is as strong as 'This may have nothing to do with reality', it's not that bad... At 01:49 30/12/2001, Mike Robinson wrote: Zeev Suraski writes: Well, I think that benchmarking PHP like that out

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Shootout

2001-12-29 Thread August Zajonc
Just to be clear I'll list a few for the record. He's got them there to avoid the flames and claims of unfair. - All artificial language performance benchmarks, mine included, *do not measure real-world performance*. One should not choose a language based only on its benchmark ranking, even if

[PHP-DEV] pgsql session save handler bench (was [PHP-DEV] session_pgsql module commit notice)

2001-12-29 Thread Yasuo Ohgaki
PostgreSQL has one real behavior problem. Updates act as if you do a delete then an insert, i.e. for transactional isolation, an updated row is added new, and the old one is marked as deleted. Sessions are all about updates, and any really active server cluster will expose PostgreSQL's worst

[PHP-DEV] Bug #14758: $HTTP_GET_VARS Improper NAME scrambling

2001-12-29 Thread chris
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Operating system: Linux 2.4 (Mandrake 6.1) PHP version: 4.0.6 PHP Bug Type: *General Issues Bug description: $HTTP_GET_VARS Improper NAME scrambling ? if (!sizeof($HTTP_GET_VARS) ) { ? FORM ACTION=?=$PHP_SELF? METHOD=GET INPUT TYPE=TEXT

[PHP-DEV] Bug #14758 Updated: $HTTP_GET_VARS Improper NAME scrambling

2001-12-29 Thread mfischer
ID: 14758 Updated by: mfischer Reported By: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Old Status: Open Status: Bogus Bug Type: *General Issues Operating System: Linux 2.4 (Mandrake 6.1) PHP Version: 4.0.6 New Comment: Since spaces aren't allowed in variable names (obviously) they're converted to underscores. Bo bug -