That sounds very good. What version is your oracle client?
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Does anyone have an access to any lower versions of Oracle Servers and
Oracle Clients to compile and test from CVS
- Production
Server release: 150999296
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?
let me know.
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On Tue, 26 Nov 2002 00:18:17 +0100 Edin Kadribasic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That sounds very good. What version is your oracle client?
The client is on the same Linux box, so the version is still
That's what I thought... Gonna have now to look for the definition of
the function to avoid the compiling failure. Many thanks, man!
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On Tue, 26 Nov 2002 01:18:15 +0100 Edin Kadribasic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
No go. OCIServerRelease seems
own error code
everyone in the world can find out what the error means. How different
is that from simply translating the documentation?
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of users there are we're doing pretty okay I'd say.
This can be easily avoided. When I have to report an Oracle error in
Italian on an English page, I simply type the error code. We need to
introduce error codes in PHP, that would really solve the trouble.
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^H^H^H^H^H discussing about is whether we want to add localized error messages,
yes?
yes.
Ok, simple question: Who would be (theoretically) willing to write AND maintain
the appropriate code?
I would!
+111 from me.
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The world's most powerful database server does - Oracle. And, just type
something out of the place and you will get them dozens :)
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On Mon, 25 Nov 2002 20:14:56 -0500 Ilia A. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On November 25, 2002 07:57 pm, Maxim Maletsky wrote:
On Mon, 25 Nov 2002 15:21:06 -0500 Sterling Hughes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Educate users to speak the base amount of english required, I18N'ing the
language
Yes, this is the way to go. but, I would still prefer to have to pass it
only a code like:
php_error(255, data, data, data);
where in an XML structure we can predefine everything else.
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programming is ported to every language.
That is what I want for PHP. DB2 and MSSQL (of which I am not expert) do
also care about this. Why shouldn't we, the world's most used
web programming language?
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.
Again, I am not saying the details, but rather the idea of what I meant.
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On Tue, 26 Nov 2002 02:40:21 +0100 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marcus Börger) wrote:
A number is slightly faster but that is of no interest for error messages.
More important is conflict
It was to say that these three (Oracle, SQL and DB2) do have
internationalized error reporting. I meant them as an example for the
one PHP has.
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On Mon, 25 Nov 2002 20:44:03 -0500 George Schlossnagle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is your claim that db2 has
an XML file. There can be several ways
accomplishing it.
I am more that just +1 for globalization or run time reporting.
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If you would just ini_alter() for your language you would survive with
PHP better than with Oracle when have to work in multiple languages at
the same time. This problem would be inevitable anyway :)
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On Mon, 25 Nov 2002 20:51:06 -0500 George Schlossnagle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
MySQL also supports error message internationalization - one more RDBMS
to annoy Sterling, I guess.
George
On Monday, November 25, 2002, at 08:47 PM, Maxim
On Mon, 25 Nov 2002 20:53:55 -0500 Ilia A. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On November 25, 2002 08:29 pm, Maxim Maletsky wrote:
Who cares? I am an Oracle fun, but this is still not my point. My point
is that oracle, as arguable as can be, thinks about marketing its
product. They biggest sales
that, I've said my piece, anyhow, i think its stupid, I'll wait till I
see a patch to disagree fully :)
YAP! That is the way to go. Whoever is +(int)something start throwing
up ideas and patches on how to accomplish this.
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On Mon, 25 Nov 2002 21:11:37 -0500 Ilia A. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On November 25, 2002 08:53 pm, Maxim Maletsky wrote:
Well, in this case you would just add locales like you do with dates, for
example.
Meaning that you will be applying the locale logic in real time? Have you
Ilia A. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote... :
On November 25, 2002 09:22 pm, Maxim Maletsky wrote:
On Mon, 25 Nov 2002 21:11:37 -0500 Ilia A. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On November 25, 2002 08:53 pm, Maxim Maletsky wrote:
Well, in this case you would just add locales like you do with dates
John Coggeshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote... :
Wow..
Alrighty... I've read through all of this stuff -- everyone seems to
have quite a strong opinion on this one :) Since I kinda brought it up
with Maxim, let me provide a concept of implementation and defend it...
I'd of course love
And, most importantly, what the hell doi I care of losing 0.12 secs
for a Fatal Error dysplay?
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By the way, could you please advise by how much I will need to
increase the
power of my server(s
Well, yes, if it is not XML it can still work. A thought here is - to
connect built-in errors to the documentation, which is where XML would
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I am completely +1 to the concept of taking error codes out
Again, XML was my throw to this thread. I intuitively thought of XML
because it would help connecting the PHP error reporting to the official
documentaion.
Don't you think it would be helpful? Of course there are work-arounds
for that too.
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It can be parsed run time at a small cost, which in this case of errors,
as many here agree, can be used.
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Because errors need to be loaded into memory by some
mechanism, stored in a
hash table? Meaning
more translators to work on. They's cool :)
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I am on. Here, without a patch sample, nothing will roll.
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Maxim (and anyone else who is interested)
Shall we try to get a patch for this working then? I'm thinking perhaps
starting off
function or undefiniertes
Funktion to them?
Derick
It is just as true. But, there is also another side of the coin - having
errors internationalized will sound like PHP-translated not only DOCS
translated - an extra tool to tell that Open Source cares of usability.
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XML or not XML is not yet the question. It can be something else having
its own XML version.
What is the browsercap then? Somthing of that nature for core PHP, but
creating that file from a Documentation XML error file.
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doing it? Remember, his users know basic IT english
too.
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marcus Börger) wrote... :
At 10:14 26.11.2002, Derick Rethans wrote:
On Tue, 26 Nov 2002, John Coggeshall wrote:
Maxim (and anyone else who is interested)
Shall we try to get a patch for this working then? I'm thinking perhaps
starting off with an XML file
I apologize for shouting, didn't mean to be offensive. What I want to
say is that error messages are string and should, IMHO, be reference
instead of hardcoded in the C code.
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On Tue, 26 Nov 2002, Maxim Maletsky
any non-english errors in my PHP setups and will always
spend precious minutes grepping for error code. But, this will benefit
the whole project. It is not a stupid idea - it is usability.
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On Tue, 26 Nov 2002
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On Tue, 26 Nov 2002, Maxim Maletsky wrote:
Derick Rethans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote... :
IMO it doesn't improve anything; people who don't want to understand
undefined function also dont want to understand undefiniertes
Funktion, it's
Derick Rethans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote... :
On Tue, 26 Nov 2002, Maxim Maletsky wrote:
Derick Rethans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote... :
On Tue, 26 Nov 2002, Maxim Maletsky wrote:
This can be easily avoided. When I have to report an Oracle error in
Italian on an English page, I
inside the code remaining intact.
It, of course, would be optional. Set by local setting in php.ini or
runtime.
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. That is where I thought of XML, which is not the one to
use here, because it would allow more properties per error.
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Zeev Suraski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote... :
At 13:11 26/11/2002, Maxim Maletsky wrote:
That sounds selfish of us, Derick.
No, it doesn't. If we're going to attempt at doing something that has a
high risk of screwing up PHP and slow down its QA and support, we should be
mature enough
with these errors from users. But, it should be in it own
directories, thought - having 20 .cat files along your .c files would be
boring.
I'd say:
ext/session/errors/en.cat
etc...
Also, a logic to always use english error as default.
There, simple and straight-forward.
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Let me do the same for Italian
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Daniel Lorch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote... :
hi,
I fired off a mail to PHP-DE asking the average PHP user about localization
of error messages. My mail might be a bit biased, so if you have something to
say, do it now
on this fact, though. Can it be somehow built from phpdoc module?
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in :)
But, seriousely speaking, since there is no agreement on anything yet, let's
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-Original Message-
From: Sterling Hughes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 3:18 PM
To: John Coggeshall
Cc: 'Ivan Ristic
On 27 Nov 2002 00:54:59 +0100 Stig S. Bakken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, 2002-11-26 at 14:57, Andrei Zmievski wrote:
On Tue, 26 Nov 2002, Edin Kadribasic wrote:
On Tue, 26 Nov 2002, Maxim Maletsky wrote:
I rather propose. And, it seems to interest many on the list.
Don't
, and focus on the quick wins first, such as
good error codes.
Amen! That is where i was leading and got misleading :)
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On 27 Nov 2002 01:49:54 +0100 Stig S. Bakken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, 2002-11-26 at 12:11, Maxim Maletsky wrote:
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On Tue, 26 Nov 2002, Maxim Maletsky wrote:
Derick Rethans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote... :
IMO it doesn't
Thies was on it. But, I think he is pretty busy right now. Resubmit it
to me and I will look instead of him. Meanwhile, if Thies has time he
will spare the light on the issue.
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Abdul-Kareem Abo-Namous [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote... :
hi everyone
what
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Hi,
I'm a beginner in PHP.
I'm looking for ressources (templates, samples, ...) which can help me.
Where can I find it.
Thanks
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represent any enormous maintenance increase while has some positive
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Ilia A. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote... :
On November 28, 2002 12:56 pm, Maxim Maletsky wrote:
Shall we still consider introducing error codes to PHP? IMO, it does not
represent any enormous maintenance increase while has some positive
points.
Do you have an effecient manner in which
the way it is.
Any comments, Thies?
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Abdul-Kareem Abo-Namous [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote... :
sure, here's thecode, diff'd against the latest cvs (from today). hope it's
ok!
oci8_charsets_oci8c.diff is for oci8.c
oci8_charsets_configm4.diff for config.m4
, the only reasons to care about this are the code readability and
coding standards within a team. If that makes sense to be so much
restrictive.
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wondering is the thread safety of it.
Also, since this is a = 8.1 thingie, you'd need to see whether it
compiles and doesnt crash on lower versions of OCI (is OCI_SHARED
defined in all OCIs? You need to control it for BC).
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more secure
as XSS affects any programming language and not namy have such
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Yes, only the first one gets parsed by all the subsequent get executed.
This speeds the process up - what's the problem?
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and ignore the messages from
those who you don't consider active PHP5 contributors. That would
probably be more correct.
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Ok, I can't be bothered to fight a mailing list that was supposed to trim
down endless
this email:
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| Imagine a company office where the programmers get paid per hour while
| spending tons of time at the round table of a meeting room throwing into
| each other what they like better
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3.) Should users be advised to download zlib sources, building
zlib.lib?
The link above from w3c could be a good idea to point the user to.
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with win32build.zip ;-)
I completely agree. I didn't know about the win32build.zip untill Zeev
mentioned it.
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There are a few libraries to include in the VC path. Find them on the
net (I did it somehow myself and don't have a clue where from).
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On Mon, 27 Jan 2003 11:04:58 -0600 joe hansche [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I just tried downloading the latest stable source
A user posted this note below.
I do not know Catalan and cannot check it myself, however I decided not
to ignore it and ask if anyone on the dev list could confirm that the
user makes sense.
If he does, then what?
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A user posted this note below.
I do not know Catalan and cannot check it myself, however I decided not
to ignore it and ask if anyone on the dev list could confirm that the
user makes sense
conclusion is that I doubt there is any gain of stability by
solving this issue with a parameter instead of an intuitive function.
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stri_replace prob :)
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dovrebbe essere:
?
Class Foo {
var $foo2;
Function Bar()
{
echo $this-foo2.\n;
print Bar;
}
Function Bar2()
{
$foo2=foo2;
$this-Bar();
}
}
$f = new foo;
$f-Bar2();
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?
Class Foo
stranno, dovrebbe comunque funzionare datto che ZEND_CHANGES.txt ha quasi
un anno mentre il tuo CVS checkout e, credo, sia un sacco piu fresco.
Sicuro che non funzioni?
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On 02 Feb 2003 21:56:08 +0100 michel 'ziobudda' morelli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Il dom
On Sun, 2 Feb 2003 22:06:24 +0100 (CET) Derick Rethans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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stranno, dovrebbe comunque funzionare datto che ZEND_CHANGES.txt ha quasi
un anno mentre il tuo CVS checkout e, credo, sia un sacco piu fresco.
Sicuro che non
I read the code, quite nice!
It's been a while I was thinking to integrate Ruby into PHP, which would
probably be a very very similar extension as this one. Are they going to get
into the official PHP distr or PECL?
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On 02 Feb 2003 18:13:10 -0500 Sterling
Seems like it :)
In a pre-alpha phase ;)
Ans, I also want to do the same for Ruby (in case you haven't heard ;) )
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you need to include a few libs to VC before building. Most of it is
within win32build.zip, which you should unpack on your system and set
the inc/lib/bin of your VC pointing there. Should fix your issues.
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error - Failed evaluating code:
print( 52); echo(\42 );
In fact, /e eval()uates the code. It does with the replaced result just
what eval() does with a string PHP code. At most, it could be noted in
docs.
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it happens if you are behind the firewall. If so, then create the SSH
tunnel from localhost:2401 to cvs.php.net:2401 and connect to localhost
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Hi,
I'm trying to commit some changes, and can't get wincvs
to request the PHP's CVS account and will notify whoever is
in the charge for approving it. That is pretty much the way things work
here, of course exceptions are possible, but in your case i don't see
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There are some people already working on the Chinese (Simplified)
translation:
http://www.php.net/manual/zh/
Please contact them and see whether they need your help.
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On 6 Feb 2003 01:17:36 - cui yan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Translating
and `double' should be called `float' for ptoto purposes.
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functions would get implemented (which I think is a
good idea to have such algorithm) then they would be something like
date_sunrise() and date_sunset(). Much more logic, no?
+1 for date_sunrise() and date_sunset()
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I hope you're kidding.
Andi
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with the session id. I only tested it with
Internet Explorer 5 and Mozilla (don't remember the version now), it worked
fine.
This is an insecure method as HTTP_REFERER is being sent by browser. One
can simply create a socket connection inputing that variable into the
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