Re: [PHP-DEV] Zend API changes

2001-05-09 Thread Zeev Suraski
You should be using ZEND_EXTENSION_API_NO, it's an integer. Zeev At 23:32 8/5/2001, Dan Libby wrote: ok, so ZEND_VERSION_DOUBLE is crazy talk. the preprocessor doesn't like floats either. But something like ZEND_VERSION_MAJOR 4, ZEND_VERSION_MINOR 6 would satisfy it. -danda Dan Libby wrote:

Re: [PHP-DEV] Zend API changes

2001-05-09 Thread Stanislav Malyshev
DL be buildable with all of 4.x without user intervention, so I'm trying DL to figure out some way to handle the change via the pre-processor. Use ZEND_EXTENSION_API_NO, it changes every time API changes so that extensions may break. -- Stanislav Malyshev, Zend Products Engineer [EMAIL

Re: [PHP-DEV] Zend API changes

2001-05-08 Thread Dan Libby
This change also broke my extension. I'd like to have the extension be buildable with all of 4.x without user intervention, so I'm trying to figure out some way to handle the change via the pre-processor. I thought that ZEND_VERSION, defined in zend.h, might do the trick. Unfortunately, it is

Re: [PHP-DEV] Zend API changes

2001-05-08 Thread Dan Libby
ok, so ZEND_VERSION_DOUBLE is crazy talk. the preprocessor doesn't like floats either. But something like ZEND_VERSION_MAJOR 4, ZEND_VERSION_MINOR 6 would satisfy it. -danda Dan Libby wrote: This change also broke my extension. I'd like to have the extension be buildable with all of 4.x

Re: [PHP-DEV] Zend API changes

2001-05-08 Thread Andi Gutmans
There is a ZEND_MODULE_API_NO Andi At 01:32 PM 5/8/2001 -0700, Dan Libby wrote: ok, so ZEND_VERSION_DOUBLE is crazy talk. the preprocessor doesn't like floats either. But something like ZEND_VERSION_MAJOR 4, ZEND_VERSION_MINOR 6 would satisfy it. -danda Dan Libby wrote: This change also

Re: [PHP-DEV] Zend API changes

2001-05-06 Thread Stig Sæther Bakken
[Björn Schotte [EMAIL PROTECTED]] * Zeev Suraski wrote: There's a good starting point already, people are more than welcome to extend it. I don't understand why people should work in their spare-time on a tool which is published under the Zend Licence (which is similar to QPL). As we

Re: [PHP-DEV] Zend API changes

2001-05-06 Thread Stig Sæther Bakken
[Zeev Suraski [EMAIL PROTECTED]] At 21:05 4/5/2001, Hartmut Holzgraefe wrote: PS: about the welcome thing above ... - you should know that i have put a lot of work into the manual (both english and german) and the function tables Hartmut, I wasn't trying to understate your work

Re: [PHP-DEV] Zend API changes

2001-05-06 Thread Zeev Suraski
At 11:41 6/5/2001, Stig Sæther Bakken wrote: You're not wrong; It's been done and published (http://www.zend.com/apidoc/), and is the base for additional work that I invited people to improve on. Hey, are the sources for this manual available somewhere? CVS maybe? Yep, sure thing;

RE: [PHP-DEV] Zend API changes

2001-05-06 Thread James Moore
You're not wrong; It's been done and published (http://www.zend.com/apidoc/), and is the base for additional work that I invited people to improve on. Hey, are the sources for this manual available somewhere? CVS maybe? Yep, sure thing; cvs.zend.com, co ZendAPI; Released under

RE: [PHP-DEV] Zend API changes

2001-05-06 Thread Zeev Suraski
At 14:14 6/5/2001, James Moore wrote: You're not wrong; It's been done and published (http://www.zend.com/apidoc/), and is the base for additional work that I invited people to improve on. Hey, are the sources for this manual available somewhere? CVS maybe? Yep, sure

RE: [PHP-DEV] Zend API changes

2001-05-06 Thread Sterling Hughes
On Sun, 6 May 2001, James Moore wrote: You're not wrong; It's been done and published (http://www.zend.com/apidoc/), and is the base for additional work that I invited people to improve on. Hey, are the sources for this manual available somewhere? CVS maybe? Yep, sure

Re: [PHP-DEV] Zend API changes

2001-05-06 Thread Billy Rose
]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 7:26 PM Subject: RE: [PHP-DEV] Zend API changes Billy: Meet the QA team :) [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Billy Rose [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 7:53 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV

Re: [PHP-DEV] Zend API changes

2001-05-04 Thread Hartmut Holzgraefe
Brian Foddy wrote: ... and get better notified when they do occur? they have occured on every release but 4.0.3 now so you should expect new releases to *not* be binary compatible to old extensions for now IMHO -- Hartmut Holzgraefe [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.six.de +49-711-99091-77 --

Re: [PHP-DEV] Zend API changes

2001-05-04 Thread Zeev Suraski
It's in everyone's interest to keep the API intact. The Zend API is now fairly stable (I don't expect compatibility breaking changes in the 4.0 line); Judging from the experience of PHP 3.0, there too, the API stabilized around x.0.5. Zeev At 18:29 4/5/2001, Brian Foddy wrote: A small

Re: [PHP-DEV] Zend API changes

2001-05-04 Thread Sterling Hughes
On Fri, 4 May 2001, Hartmut Holzgraefe wrote: Zeev Suraski wrote: It's in everyone's interest to keep the API intact. The Zend API is now fairly stable (I don't expect compatibility breaking changes in the 4.0 line); Judging from the experience of PHP 3.0, there too, the API

Re: [PHP-DEV] Zend API changes

2001-05-04 Thread Hartmut Holzgraefe
Sterling Hughes wrote: On Fri, 4 May 2001, Hartmut Holzgraefe wrote: so we can now hope for a reference documentation now? ;) Sure, go ahead and write some! ;) AFAIR someone told someone else not to do so (a long time ago) as this was already taken care of ;) -- Hartmut Holzgraefe [EMAIL

Re: [PHP-DEV] Zend API changes

2001-05-04 Thread Zeev Suraski
Hope is always a good thing :) There's a good starting point already, people are more than welcome to extend it. Zeev At 19:30 4/5/2001, Hartmut Holzgraefe wrote: Zeev Suraski wrote: It's in everyone's interest to keep the API intact. The Zend API is now fairly stable (I don't expect

Re: [PHP-DEV] Zend API changes

2001-05-04 Thread Björn Schotte
* Zeev Suraski wrote: There's a good starting point already, people are more than welcome to extend it. I don't understand why people should work in their spare-time on a tool which is published under the Zend Licence (which is similar to QPL). As we know of QPL, all developer's seem to be

RE: [PHP-DEV] Zend API changes

2001-05-04 Thread James Moore
There's a good starting point already, people are more than welcome to extend it. I don't understand why people should work in their spare-time on a tool which is published under the Zend Licence (which is similar to QPL). As we know of QPL, all developer's seem to be equal, but some

Re: [PHP-DEV] Zend API changes

2001-05-04 Thread Björn Schotte
* James Moore wrote: And the point of this other than trying to start a flame war was Bjorn? I'm not starting a flame war. Björn. -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the

RE: [PHP-DEV] Zend API changes

2001-05-04 Thread James Moore
* James Moore wrote: And the point of this other than trying to start a flame war was Bjorn? I'm not starting a flame war. I just didnt understand what your comments possibly had to do with the Zend API docs. AFIAK they arnt QPL'd (and if they are it doesnt really matter although they

Re: [PHP-DEV] Zend API changes

2001-05-04 Thread Hartmut Holzgraefe
Zeev Suraski wrote: Hope is always a good thing :) There's a good starting point already, people are more than welcome to extend it. besides all political/philosophical issues (licensing and such ...) i am talking about a *reference* documentation, not a manual or howto neither the book

Re: [PHP-DEV] Zend API changes

2001-05-04 Thread Zeev Suraski
At 20:20 4/5/2001, Björn Schotte wrote: * Zeev Suraski wrote: There's a good starting point already, people are more than welcome to extend it. I don't understand why people should work in their spare-time on a tool which is published under the Zend Licence (which is similar to QPL). As we

Re: [PHP-DEV] Zend API changes

2001-05-04 Thread Joe Brown
Well you should, damnit! ;-) Zeev Suraski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... At 20:20 4/5/2001, Björn Schotte wrote: * Zeev Suraski wrote: There's a good starting point already, people are more than welcome to extend it. I don't understand why

Re: [PHP-DEV] Zend API changes

2001-05-04 Thread Zeev Suraski
At 21:05 4/5/2001, Hartmut Holzgraefe wrote: PS: about the welcome thing above ... - you should know that i have put a lot of work into the manual (both english and german) and the function tables Hartmut, I wasn't trying to understate your work on the manual; I told you personally that

Re: [PHP-DEV] Zend API changes

2001-05-04 Thread Sterling Hughes
On Fri, 4 May 2001, Hartmut Holzgraefe wrote: Zeev Suraski wrote: Hope is always a good thing :) There's a good starting point already, people are more than welcome to extend it. besides all political/philosophical issues (licensing and such ...) i am talking about a *reference*

Re: [PHP-DEV] Zend API changes

2001-05-04 Thread Andrei Zmievski
On Fri, 04 May 2001, Sterling Hughes wrote: Well maybe not manpage style. I think there should be some Javadoc-like comments in the Zend source, the same way the apache portable runtime is documented or state threads library is (yeah, yeah, I know, don't end sentences with prepositions :).

Re: [PHP-DEV] Zend API changes

2001-05-04 Thread Wez Furlong
On 2001-05-04 19:59:23, Andrei Zmievski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 04 May 2001, Sterling Hughes wrote: Well maybe not manpage style. I think there should be some Javadoc-like comments in the Zend source, the same way the apache portable runtime is I remember the Amiga coding

Re: [PHP-DEV] Zend API changes

2001-05-04 Thread Hartmut Holzgraefe
Sterling Hughes wrote: neither the book chapter you defined to be the official documentation nor the readme files describe the complete api e.g. it's very hard to get the clue what all the *FETCH macros are good for from the so called official documentation do you still need an

Re: [PHP-DEV] Zend API changes

2001-05-04 Thread Zeev Suraski
Holzgraefe [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 1:27 PM Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Zend API changes At 21:05 4/5/2001, Hartmut Holzgraefe wrote: PS: about the welcome thing above ... - you should know that i have put a lot of work into the manual (both

Re: [PHP-DEV] Zend API changes

2001-05-04 Thread Billy Rose
Message - From: Zeev Suraski [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Billy Rose [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 6:33 PM Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Zend API changes You can always suggest... :) At 02:14 5/5/2001, Billy Rose wrote: The company I work for has a very quick bug turn over

RE: [PHP-DEV] Zend API changes

2001-05-04 Thread Sean R. Bright
Billy: Meet the QA team :) [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Billy Rose [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 7:53 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Zend API changes It is obvious that this project has a tremendous amount of effort

Re: [PHP-DEV] Zend API changes

2001-05-04 Thread Vlad Krupin
- From: Zeev Suraski [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Billy Rose [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 6:33 PM Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Zend API changes You can always suggest... :) At 02:14 5/5/2001, Billy Rose wrote: The company I work for has a very quick bug