Re: [PHP] Re: Php +Xml?

2003-03-09 Thread Alexandru COSTIN
Hello, DomXML is a large improvement over Sablot. If you take a close look at XML, you'll see that XML is used effectively with some technologies : SAX (Simple Api for XML), DOM (Document Object Modelling), XSL (Extensible styleshhet language). The DOMxml php extension

Re: [PHP] Re: Php +Xml?

2003-03-09 Thread Alexandru COSTIN
Hello James, Your vision is very similar to ours. You should take the Krysalis platform (LGPL) and give it a try. It's a mature solution (similar to cocoon) for XML/XSL publishing, and allows you to define the way requests are served, define the way dynamic XML trees are created and then define

RE: [PHP] Re: Php +Xml?

2003-03-08 Thread daniel
wot exactly does the xml parse do over sablot ? and what benfit do u get xml'ing an entire site , where some processes which come easy to do in php are insanely tedious to replicate in xsl :| = Original Message From James [EMAIL PROTECTED] = There is nothing to install. By default php

Re: [PHP] Re: Php +Xml?

2003-03-08 Thread James
There are distinct differences to parsing XML into your program and producing XML from your program. We use the following method's which are enabling us to create scalable systems with independent design from code. One of the clear reasons for using XML/XSLT is the seperation of data and design.

RE: [PHP] Re: Php +Xml?

2003-03-08 Thread daniel
what is domxml ? is it similar to sablot ? = Original Message From Alexandru COSTIN [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Hello, Hello people, I want to start using Xml with php. How do I install xml on Apache with Php? I am running redhat 7.2,Apache 1.3.12 and php latest version. If you want

RE: [PHP] Re: Php +Xml?

2003-03-08 Thread Khalid El-Kary
try this parser, it would be useful. http://creaturesx.ma.cx/kxparse/ Regards, Khalid _ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail -- PHP General Mailing List

RE: [PHP] Re: PHP XML

2002-10-16 Thread Simon Taylor
To me this is a lot of work and processing for limited benefits, a simple db abstraction layer provides you with a divide between you db queries and the presentation of your site, what benefits do you see in doing this? Cheers Simon -Original Message- From: Alexandru COSTIN

RE: [PHP] Re: PHP XML

2002-10-16 Thread Joshua Alexander
To me this is a lot of work and processing for limited benefits, a simple db abstraction layer provides you with a divide between you db queries and the presentation of your site, what benefits do you see in doing this? I have to agree with Simon. I am at a loss when it comes to seeing any

RE: [PHP] Re: PHP XML

2002-10-16 Thread José León Serna
El mié, 16-10-2002 a las 10:22, Joshua Alexander escribió: I have to agree with Simon. I am at a loss when it comes to seeing any benefit to XML that doesn't involve data exchange between at least two parties. I've spent the last two years building database-backed websites, so I'm

RE: [PHP] Re: PHP XML

2002-10-16 Thread Simon Taylor
, but until then I will save myself from the extra work. Cheers Simon -Original Message- From: José León Serna [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 16 October 2002 10:40 To: Joshua Alexander Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [PHP] Re: PHP XML El mié, 16-10-2002 a las 10:22, Joshua Alexander

RE: [PHP] Re: PHP XML

2002-10-16 Thread José León Serna
El mié, 16-10-2002 a las 11:02, Simon Taylor escribió: Sure in this context I agree with you, but how often do you have a website which needs to publish in many different formats? I have designed and built websites for a while and have never come across such an application. But if I were ever

RE: [PHP] Re: PHP XML

2002-10-16 Thread Joshua Alexander
I still wouldn't use XML for this. I mean, all the articles are in the database, and I'm already using PHP to pull them out and format them into html, right? I can just as easily use PHP to put them into all those other formats. So again, why waste time with XML unless I need to feed these

RE: [PHP] Re: PHP XML

2002-10-16 Thread José León Serna
El mié, 16-10-2002 a las 11:13, Joshua Alexander escribió: I still wouldn't use XML for this. I mean, all the articles are in the database, and I'm already using PHP to pull them out and format them into html, right? I can just as easily use PHP to put them into all those other formats. In

[Fwd: Re: [PHP] Re: PHP XML]

2002-10-16 Thread Tariq Murtaza
Can u elaborate more about ISO standards. i mean, if u could explain more about using Xml in DMS with ISO standards with small examples Best ragards José León Serna wrote: El mié, 16-10-2002 a las 11:02, Simon Taylor escribió: Sure in this context I agree with you, but how often do you have

Re: [Fwd: Re: [PHP] Re: PHP XML]

2002-10-16 Thread José León Serna
El mar, 15-10-2002 a las 23:16, Tariq Murtaza escribió: Can u elaborate more about ISO standards. i mean, if u could explain more about using Xml in DMS with ISO standards with small examples AFAIK there is no especific request to use XML to be compliant with ISO standard, the ISO specifies

Re: [PHP] Re: PHP XML

2002-10-16 Thread Stas Maximov
The benefit would be in dividing business logic from presentation layer. Stas. - Original Message - From: Simon Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 7:35 AM Subject: RE: [PHP] Re: PHP XML To me this is a lot of work and processing

Re: [PHP] Re: PHP XML

2002-10-16 Thread Geoff Hankerson
Ultimately it's about flexibility and seperating content from presentation.Even if you don't have sites that need to be output into multiple formats you will almost cetainly need to redesign some or all of the presentation at some point even if it is only in html. Have you ever had your

Re: [PHP] Re: PHP XML

2002-10-16 Thread Adrian Slusarczyk
y invest the effort that is required, but until then I will save myself from the extra work. Cheers Simon -Original Message- From: José León Serna [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 16 October 2002 10:40 To: Joshua Alexander Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [PHP] Re: PHP XML El mié, 16-10-20

RE: [PHP] Re: PHP XML

2002-10-16 Thread .: B i g D o g :.
I am all for the power of XML, another benefit is the ability to have many themes for your viewer. Plus, if you are writing a CMS or portal of some sort you can have your users create their own themes without ever touching the data layers. They just need to create some XSLT pages and that is