Re: [PHP] Problem using APC
On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 11:38 PM, David Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, I just installed APC on my server that is running PHP and the APC appears to be randomly crashing. Below are the symptoms that my server is experiencing and the configuration of my system. Has anyone seen this type of problem with APC and can you give me any advice to fix it? *Symptom #1 - APC appears to be stable but then restarts after a couple hours with no page requests* 1. Reboot server 2. Load apc.php. It shows that the cache is empty except for one or two system files. These are the files that are used to create the apc.php page. 3. Load some other PHP pages. And re-load apc.php after each pageview. The cache starts filling up with other cached items and the hit rate goes up. 4. Leave the server alone for a couple hours. 5. Load apc.php. It shows that the cache is empty. Also, the cache uptime is less than an hour - in other words, the cache appears to have restarted itself. just curious, but have you really seen a reset after a couple of hours of *inactivity* ? i used to monitor apc.php closely when we deployed it at my last job and every time it got past the size of the cache limit; it would purge the cache. i think thats very common. how many files are you trying to cache? we needed to allocate roughly 200MB of memory for apc on our production box to keep somewhere around 1000 files worth of opcode cache in memory. obviously theres no standard for files but thats how it worked for us. you can write a test script (javascript) to run through and start requesting all the various files from your webserver; then apc will cache them, and you can see how many it can hold before the cache needs to be purged. *Symptom #2 - APC restarts in the middle of serving some pages* 1. Reboot server 2. Load apc.php. It shows that the cache is empty except for one or two system files. These are the files that are used to create the apc.php page. 3. Load some other PHP pages. And re-load apc.php after each pageview. The cache starts filling up with other cached items and the hit rate goes up. 4. On some of the PHP pages, however, apc.php shows that the cache has emptied and has started again. the only reason i know apc would purge the cache is reaching the limit on cache size and then getting requests to cache new files. there may be other reasons it will automatically purge itself, and that could be something worth asking on an apc dev list. one thing you might try is adding some user variables to the cache via the apc api, http://us.php.net/apc, maybe you could check to see if those get cleared along w/ the opcode cache. i dunno if it really matters, but it could be interesting. -nathan
Re: [PHP] Problem using APC
Hi Nathan, Thanks for the advice. I don't think that cache getting too full is the problem because the system cache only got less than 10% full at the most. On another note, thanks for letting me know about the PECL dev list. I didn't realize that that list exists. I just sent my email to the PECL list. Maybe they can help me out there. David On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 11:17 PM, Nathan Nobbe [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 11:38 PM, David Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, I just installed APC on my server that is running PHP and the APC appears to be randomly crashing. Below are the symptoms that my server is experiencing and the configuration of my system. Has anyone seen this type of problem with APC and can you give me any advice to fix it? *Symptom #1 - APC appears to be stable but then restarts after a couple hours with no page requests* 1. Reboot server 2. Load apc.php. It shows that the cache is empty except for one or two system files. These are the files that are used to create the apc.php page. 3. Load some other PHP pages. And re-load apc.php after each pageview. The cache starts filling up with other cached items and the hit rate goes up. 4. Leave the server alone for a couple hours. 5. Load apc.php. It shows that the cache is empty. Also, the cache uptime is less than an hour - in other words, the cache appears to have restarted itself. just curious, but have you really seen a reset after a couple of hours of *inactivity* ? i used to monitor apc.php closely when we deployed it at my last job and every time it got past the size of the cache limit; it would purge the cache. i think thats very common. how many files are you trying to cache? we needed to allocate roughly 200MB of memory for apc on our production box to keep somewhere around 1000 files worth of opcode cache in memory. obviously theres no standard for files but thats how it worked for us. you can write a test script (javascript) to run through and start requesting all the various files from your webserver; then apc will cache them, and you can see how many it can hold before the cache needs to be purged. *Symptom #2 - APC restarts in the middle of serving some pages* 1. Reboot server 2. Load apc.php. It shows that the cache is empty except for one or two system files. These are the files that are used to create the apc.php page. 3. Load some other PHP pages. And re-load apc.php after each pageview. The cache starts filling up with other cached items and the hit rate goes up. 4. On some of the PHP pages, however, apc.php shows that the cache has emptied and has started again. the only reason i know apc would purge the cache is reaching the limit on cache size and then getting requests to cache new files. there may be other reasons it will automatically purge itself, and that could be something worth asking on an apc dev list. one thing you might try is adding some user variables to the cache via the apc api, http://us.php.net/apc, maybe you could check to see if those get cleared along w/ the opcode cache. i dunno if it really matters, but it could be interesting. -nathan
Re: [PHP] The Best PHP Editor.
jmatt wrote: Hi, I was using NVU to edit PHP but when I upload the index.php file back there will always be a slight error in disorientation. Example using NVU I edited the text just a bit then bam..The webpage became really funny What is the best to edit my PHP file? Thanks - Popular free programming ebooks,free database ebooks,free OS ebooks download at http://www.ebook-x.com/ http://www.ebook-x.com/ Check these out. Just a few to point out. http://www.nabble.com/PHP-editor-to9940374.html#a9940374 http://www.nabble.com/PHP-editor-to13692513.html#a13692513 http://www.nabble.com/Which-PHP-Editor-to-use--to11968056.html#a11968349 http://www.nabble.com/most-powerful-php-editor-to847.html#a8475670 http://www.nabble.com/PHP-editor-for-linux-to18985718.html#a18985718 http://www.nabble.com/Recommended-PHP-Editors--to16556258.html#a16556258 The site is an archive list of the PHP General mailing list. It is search able. http://www.nabble.com/PHP---General-f140.html Jim -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Re: Interntet Explorer 8 beater 2
Ross McKay wrote: Michael McGlothlin wrote: [...] I think web developers should look into a class action case against Microsoft for failing to make their browser standards compliant - it sure costs us a lot extra in development time. :p Let me know where the PayPal donate button is... DW I are fed up with having to find nasty kludges for IE6 every time we build a website! I think by the changing shape of the web, all browsers should have a sunset date in there beyond which they do not operate (either that or open a nag screen on every page load that is impossible to turn off (other than with a low level hack/patch to the binary - or obviously just a comment/recompile in open source ones!)). It should be respected that browsers go out of date and beyond that time *noone* supports them, not their authors or the web developing public. Col -- Colin Guthrie gmane(at)colin.guthr.ie http://colin.guthr.ie/ Day Job: Tribalogic Limited [http://www.tribalogic.net/] Open Source: Mandriva Linux Contributor [http://www.mandriva.com/] PulseAudio Hacker [http://www.pulseaudio.org/] Trac Hacker [http://trac.edgewall.org/] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: Interntet Explorer 8 beater 2
yeah, make an official no-support date. That would be great- it would help with the whole IE6 problem. It needs to be phased out, yet I know many companies that still haven't upgraded to IE7 yet! That's a big security problem as well as being a headache for all of us... 2008/9/11 Colin Guthrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ross McKay wrote: Michael McGlothlin wrote: [...] I think web developers should look into a class action case against Microsoft for failing to make their browser standards compliant - it sure costs us a lot extra in development time. :p Let me know where the PayPal donate button is... DW I are fed up with having to find nasty kludges for IE6 every time we build a website! I think by the changing shape of the web, all browsers should have a sunset date in there beyond which they do not operate (either that or open a nag screen on every page load that is impossible to turn off (other than with a low level hack/patch to the binary - or obviously just a comment/recompile in open source ones!)). It should be respected that browsers go out of date and beyond that time *noone* supports them, not their authors or the web developing public. Col -- Colin Guthrie gmane(at)colin.guthr.ie http://colin.guthr.ie/ Day Job: Tribalogic Limited [http://www.tribalogic.net/] Open Source: Mandriva Linux Contributor [http://www.mandriva.com/] PulseAudio Hacker [http://www.pulseaudio.org/] Trac Hacker [http://trac.edgewall.org/] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- Luke Slater
Re: [PHP] Header() - POST
But surely you can post data with Javascript? Ach, at college now I can't access my source, I forget how to do it exactly... 2008/9/11 mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 3:42 PM, tedd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then use cURL as was suggested before. the reply was on his original attempt to header(POST: /foo) ... that was it. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- Luke Slater
Re: [PHP] Header() - POST
On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 12:47 AM, Luke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But surely you can post data with Javascript? Ach, at college now I can't access my source, I forget how to do it exactly... yes, i said javascript. something on the client side has to do it. (well besides for a curl-based form post inside of php, but something is telling the php script to do that to begin with) header() in PHP is a command for the server to send a header to the client. POST is an HTTP request verb... -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] ASCII Captcha
Nathan Rixham wrote: tedd wrote: At 11:14 AM +0200 9/1/08, Nisse =?utf-8?Q?Engstr=C3=B6m?= wrote: On Fri, 29 Aug 2008 16:11:01 -0400, tedd wrote: http://webbytedd.com/aa/assorted-captcha/ Some of these are really cool. Assuming they are actually working, that is... -snip- (bunch of errors) I managed 1 out of 5. What do I win? /Nisse None of what you reported can be good. I fixed the errors you spoke about except I could never get the Graphic CAPTCHA to fail. Also, you're supposed to click the accessibility icon to get the page to speak the number. Anything else? Cheers, tedd why don't people just check for x/y co-ord's on an image submit instead? Not so good if you're using lynx, or if you're blind, I guess. -- Peter Ford phone: 01580 89 Developer fax: 01580 893399 Justcroft International Ltd., Staplehurst, Kent -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] webmail or script for giga mail
Hi, i'm looking for a webmail or script project with giga attachment features, something like Tiscali mail. The email recipent receives only a link, where it can downlod the file. Do you know something about? Thanks, Luca. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] webmail or script for giga mail
Hi, i'm looking for a webmail or script project with giga attachment features Giga attachment features? Wossat? -- Richard Heyes HTML5 Graphing for IE7, FF, Chrome, Opera and Safari: http://www.phpguru.org/RGraph -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] The Best PHP Editor.
jmatt wrote: Hi, I was using NVU to edit PHP but when I upload the index.php file back there will always be a slight error in disorientation. Example using NVU I edited the text just a bit then bam..The webpage became really funny What is the best to edit my PHP file? Thanks - Popular free programming ebooks,free database ebooks,free OS ebooks download at http://www.ebook-x.com/ http://www.ebook-x.com/ my preferences: 1- Eclipse with PDT 2- Nano/Textpad 3- Zend IDE (problems with memory on win though) 4- dreamweaver 8 code view -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Re: Interntet Explorer 8 beater 2
On Thu, 11 Sep 2008 08:25:11 +0100, Colin Guthrie wrote: [...] It should be respected that browsers go out of date and beyond that time *noone* supports them, not their authors or the web developing public. The worst thing about Vista is that not enough Win2K and WinXP (IE6) users want to upgrade to it (and who can blame them?) The best thing about Google Chrome is that maybe, just maybe, the tide will turn against Microsoft Word as the tech-unsavvy move to this cloud computing buzzword-paradise (onto Linux-based cheap PCs with no IE6!) Ah, a man can dream, can't he? -- Ross McKay, Toronto, NSW Australia Hope is the dream o a foolish man - The Wee Book of Calvin -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: Interntet Explorer 8 beater 2
Luke wrote: yeah, make an official no-support date. That would be great- it would help with the whole IE6 problem. It needs to be phased out, yet I know many companies that still haven't upgraded to IE7 yet! That's a big security problem as well as being a headache for all of us... MOST of my council customers only have IE6 on their networks although I was asked the question 'Does it run on IE7' only recently. To which the answer is 'Yes - but all the font sizes are too big!' Since the cost of replacing several thousand computers at each council to ones that could RUN XP is excessive and the current systems work fine then why should they upgrade? The cost will come out of OUR pockets at some point :( -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/lsces/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk// Firebird - http://www.firebirdsql.org/index.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: Interntet Explorer 8 beater 2
Lester Caine schreef: Luke wrote: yeah, make an official no-support date. That would be great- it would help with the whole IE6 problem. It needs to be phased out, yet I know many companies that still haven't upgraded to IE7 yet! That's a big security problem as well as being a headache for all of us... MOST of my council customers only have IE6 on their networks although I was asked the question 'Does it run on IE7' only recently. To which the answer is 'Yes - but all the font sizes are too big!' wtf? Since the cost of replacing several thousand computers at each council to ones that could RUN XP is excessive and the current systems work fine then why should they upgrade? The cost will come out of OUR pockets at some point :( -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Thank you...
Hey everyone, Okay, so the first time I typed this out it got rejected for being off topic... so here is my attempt to make it on topic ?PHP $day=Sept 11 2008; While($day=date(NOW)){ echo HTML Sorry for the off topic post... But I just wanted to say that if there is anyone on this list that either was in military service, or is currently serving, thank you It is because of YOUR efforts that I can sit here and write this e-mail in the freedom of my home. And if anyone is near where I live in Michigan that has served, I'd be honored to buy you a beer... (It may take awhile to get through to everyone, since I'm not rich though.. hehehe) So again, Thank you! HTML; } if(isset($serviceperson)){ echo Thank you in so many ways I can't express!; }elseif($serviceperson[1] ==beer){ echo Free beer for anyone in the service that is near me!; } ? -- Jason Pruim Raoset Inc. Technology Manager MQC Specialist 11287 James St Holland, MI 49424 www.raoset.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Readdir() question
Hi, I'm going to make a small browser based file system for ease of small updates that I make frequently on my Website. First of all I want to loop all the files on the same directory and to tell PHP read the same directory, I think I'd need to use the magic constant I think its called, __DIR__ such as: ?php $dir=opendir(__DIR__); while($files=readdir($dir)) { echo $files; } ? But I get a few errors: *Warning*: opendir(__DIR__) [function.opendir]: failed to open dir: No error in *C:\wamp\www\Project1\index.php* on line *2* *Warning*: readdir(): supplied argument is not a valid Directory resource in *C:\wamp\www\Project1\index.php* on line *3 *Any help in the right direction will be appreciated! Cheers.
Re: [PHP] Readdir() question
On 11 Sep 2008, at 13:12, Ben Stones wrote: I'm going to make a small browser based file system for ease of small updates that I make frequently on my Website. First of all I want to loop all the files on the same directory and to tell PHP read the same directory, I think I'd need to use the magic constant I think its called, __DIR__ such as: ?php $dir=opendir(__DIR__); while($files=readdir($dir)) { echo $files; } ? But I get a few errors: *Warning*: opendir(__DIR__) [function.opendir]: failed to open dir: No error in *C:\wamp\www\Project1\index.php* on line *2* *Warning*: readdir(): supplied argument is not a valid Directory resource in *C:\wamp\www\Project1\index.php* on line *3 *Any help in the right direction will be appreciated! __DIR__ is not a valid constant (yet, I think it may be planned for 5.3/6). You should be developing with notices on - this would have told you __DIR__ is wrong. Use dirname(__FILE__) to get what you're after. -Stut -- http://stut.net/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] Readdir() question
[snip] I'm going to make a small browser based file system for ease of small updates that I make frequently on my Website. First of all I want to loop all the files on the same directory and to tell PHP read the same directory, I think I'd need to use the magic constant I think its called, __DIR__ such as: ?php $dir=opendir(__DIR__); while($files=readdir($dir)) { echo $files; } ? But I get a few errors: *Warning*: opendir(__DIR__) [function.opendir]: failed to open dir: No error in *C:\wamp\www\Project1\index.php* on line *2* *Warning*: readdir(): supplied argument is not a valid Directory resource in *C:\wamp\www\Project1\index.php* on line *3 *Any help in the right direction will be appreciated! [/snip] This really is not the proper use if __DIR__ as it is based on a file that you are trying to open. This is equivalent to dirname(__FILE__). which will give you the path of the __FILE__ and hence the directory of that file. In your case you should specify the file path in $dir -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Readdir() question
Ben Stones schreef: Hi, I'm going to make a small browser based file system for ease of small updates that I make frequently on my Website. First of all I want to loop all the files on the same directory and to tell PHP read the same directory, I think I'd need to use the magic constant I think its called, __DIR__ such as: __DIR__ does not exist unless your using php5.3 ... and your not. your still not bothering to develop with error_reporting set to 'full' namely E_ALL | E_STRICT, probably it's set to E_ALL ^ E_NOTICE ... no idea what I'm talking about? read this: http://php.net/error_reporting ?php $dir=opendir(__DIR__); while($files=readdir($dir)) { echo $files; } ? But I get a few errors: code you write should check for errors, namely checking to see whether opendir() failed or not, if it did fail output don't try to loop through the files using readdir(), output an error message or something instead. *Warning*: opendir(__DIR__) [function.opendir]: failed to open dir: No error in *C:\wamp\www\Project1\index.php* on line *2* *Warning*: readdir(): supplied argument is not a valid Directory resource in *C:\wamp\www\Project1\index.php* on line *3 *Any help in the right direction will be appreciated! Cheers. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Readdir() question
Stut wrote: On 11 Sep 2008, at 13:12, Ben Stones wrote: I'm going to make a small browser based file system for ease of small updates that I make frequently on my Website. First of all I want to loop all the files on the same directory and to tell PHP read the same directory, I think I'd need to use the magic constant I think its called, __DIR__ such as: ?php $dir=opendir(__DIR__); while($files=readdir($dir)) { echo $files; } ? But I get a few errors: *Warning*: opendir(__DIR__) [function.opendir]: failed to open dir: No error in *C:\wamp\www\Project1\index.php* on line *2* *Warning*: readdir(): supplied argument is not a valid Directory resource in *C:\wamp\www\Project1\index.php* on line *3 *Any help in the right direction will be appreciated! __DIR__ is not a valid constant (yet, I think it may be planned for 5.3/6). You should be developing with notices on - this would have told you __DIR__ is wrong. Use dirname(__FILE__) to get what you're after. -Stut maybe this is into coding standards and ethics.. but this may be acceptable: if( !defined('__DIR__') ) { define('__DIR__' , dirname(__FILE__)); } however realistically you'd have to do this in every file and nto just in one include, as it changes on a per directory basis; hence why it'd /need/ to be a *magic* constant I guess :) talked myself in and out of that one; but yet still worth a post i fear! nath -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Re: Readdir() question
Ben Stones schrieb: Hi, I'm going to make a small browser based file system for ease of small updates that I make frequently on my Website. First of all I want to loop all the files on the same directory and to tell PHP read the same directory, I think I'd need to use the magic constant I think its called, __DIR__ such as: ?php $dir=opendir(__DIR__); while($files=readdir($dir)) { echo $files; } ? But I get a few errors: *Warning*: opendir(__DIR__) [function.opendir]: failed to open dir: No error in *C:\wamp\www\Project1\index.php* on line *2* *Warning*: readdir(): supplied argument is not a valid Directory resource in *C:\wamp\www\Project1\index.php* on line *3 *Any help in the right direction will be appreciated! Cheers. Hi Ben, if you are searching help, then here: www.php.net - this is the right direction regards Carlos -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Re: Interntet Explorer 8 beater 2
Lester Caine wrote: MOST of my council customers only have IE6 on their networks although I was asked the question 'Does it run on IE7' only recently. To which the answer is 'Yes - but all the font sizes are too big!' Since the cost of replacing several thousand computers at each council to ones that could RUN XP is excessive and the current systems work fine then why should they upgrade? The cost will come out of OUR pockets at some point :( Why do they need to upgrade the whole OS just to upgrade a browser who's sunset date has been reached? There are enough open source browsers out there that you can get a modern, standards compliant browser on older hardware without any problem. If this date was built in from the start and was well known, there wouldn't be any problem. It's just trying to retrofit now that people start to think that it's a problem (and due to the general reluctance to keep prop. web apps up-to-date with modern browsers, this is partially correct, but like I say, if this was all known up front, these issues would all have been dealt with!) Col -- Colin Guthrie gmane(at)colin.guthr.ie http://colin.guthr.ie/ Day Job: Tribalogic Limited [http://www.tribalogic.net/] Open Source: Mandriva Linux Contributor [http://www.mandriva.com/] PulseAudio Hacker [http://www.pulseaudio.org/] Trac Hacker [http://trac.edgewall.org/] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Thank you...
There is only 1 military service person that should be thanked for actions on 9/11 and that is the man who was brave enough to disobey orders and shoot down the flight over Pennsylvania. The rest who were involved obeyed orders and let chaos happen. There are many military men and women who for action after 9/11 deserve our thanks though. Thank you, Micah Gersten Jason Pruim wrote: Hey everyone, Okay, so the first time I typed this out it got rejected for being off topic... so here is my attempt to make it on topic ?PHP $day=Sept 11 2008; While($day=date(NOW)){ echo HTML Sorry for the off topic post... But I just wanted to say that if there is anyone on this list that either was in military service, or is currently serving, thank you It is because of YOUR efforts that I can sit here and write this e-mail in the freedom of my home. And if anyone is near where I live in Michigan that has served, I'd be honored to buy you a beer... (It may take awhile to get through to everyone, since I'm not rich though.. hehehe) So again, Thank you! HTML; } if(isset($serviceperson)){ echo Thank you in so many ways I can't express!; }elseif($serviceperson[1] ==beer){ echo Free beer for anyone in the service that is near me!; } ? -- Jason Pruim Raoset Inc. Technology Manager MQC Specialist 11287 James St Holland, MI 49424 www.raoset.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: Interntet Explorer 8 beater 2
On Sep 11, 2008, at 8:53 AM, Colin Guthrie wrote: Lester Caine wrote: MOST of my council customers only have IE6 on their networks although I was asked the question 'Does it run on IE7' only recently. To which the answer is 'Yes - but all the font sizes are too big!' Since the cost of replacing several thousand computers at each council to ones that could RUN XP is excessive and the current systems work fine then why should they upgrade? The cost will come out of OUR pockets at some point :( Why do they need to upgrade the whole OS just to upgrade a browser who's sunset date has been reached? There are enough open source browsers out there that you can get a modern, standards compliant browser on older hardware without any problem. If this date was built in from the start and was well known, there wouldn't be any problem. It's just trying to retrofit now that people start to think that it's a problem (and due to the general reluctance to keep prop. web apps up-to-date with modern browsers, this is partially correct, but like I say, if this was all known up front, these issues would all have been dealt with!) It also would have taken care of the people who wrote the webapps that were specific to certain software. I know large companies on their intranets have systems that only work with IE 6 which they spent a ton of money developing... It sucks but it's the truth... I say make sure you write to open web standards and the entire internet will be better off :) -- Jason Pruim Raoset Inc. Technology Manager MQC Specialist 11287 James St Holland, MI 49424 www.raoset.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Thank you...
On Sep 11, 2008, at 8:58 AM, Micah Gersten wrote: There is only 1 military service person that should be thanked for actions on 9/11 and that is the man who was brave enough to disobey orders and shoot down the flight over Pennsylvania. The rest who were involved obeyed orders and let chaos happen. There are many military men and women who for action after 9/11 deserve our thanks though. Anyone that defends their country deserves their countries thanks and appreciation. -- Jason Pruim Raoset Inc. Technology Manager MQC Specialist 11287 James St Holland, MI 49424 www.raoset.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: Interntet Explorer 8 beater 2
In the Microsoft world, you only support the latest couple of OSs, so IE7 won't run on Win2k. ank you, Micah Gersten onShore Networks Internal Developer http://www.onshore.com Colin Guthrie wrote: Why do they need to upgrade the whole OS just to upgrade a browser who's sunset date has been reached? There are enough open source browsers out there that you can get a modern, standards compliant browser on older hardware without any problem. If this date was built in from the start and was well known, there wouldn't be any problem. It's just trying to retrofit now that people start to think that it's a problem (and due to the general reluctance to keep prop. web apps up-to-date with modern browsers, this is partially correct, but like I say, if this was all known up front, these issues would all have been dealt with!) Col -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Thank you...
Agreed. We have days to honor those people though, Veteran's Day and Memorial Day. I wish to state with absolute clarity that I am not degrading people in the military service who do defend out country. I have the utmost respect for them. Thank you, Micah Gersten Jason Pruim wrote: Anyone that defends their country deserves their countries thanks and appreciation. -- Jason Pruim Raoset Inc. Technology Manager MQC Specialist 11287 James St Holland, MI 49424 www.raoset.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Readdir() question
Nathan Rixham schreef: Stut wrote: On 11 Sep 2008, at 13:12, Ben Stones wrote: I'm going to make a small browser based file system for ease of small updates that I make frequently on my Website. First of all I want to loop all the files on the same directory and to tell PHP read the same directory, I think I'd need to use the magic constant I think its called, __DIR__ such as: ?php $dir=opendir(__DIR__); while($files=readdir($dir)) { echo $files; } ? But I get a few errors: *Warning*: opendir(__DIR__) [function.opendir]: failed to open dir: No error in *C:\wamp\www\Project1\index.php* on line *2* *Warning*: readdir(): supplied argument is not a valid Directory resource in *C:\wamp\www\Project1\index.php* on line *3 *Any help in the right direction will be appreciated! __DIR__ is not a valid constant (yet, I think it may be planned for 5.3/6). You should be developing with notices on - this would have told you __DIR__ is wrong. Use dirname(__FILE__) to get what you're after. -Stut maybe this is into coding standards and ethics.. but this may be acceptable: if( !defined('__DIR__') ) { define('__DIR__' , dirname(__FILE__)); } however realistically you'd have to do this in every file and nto just in one include which would give an error on second and subsequent define()s , as it changes on a per directory basis; hence why it'd /need/ to be a *magic* constant I guess :) talked myself in and out of that one; but yet still worth a post i fear! lol nath -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Header() - POST
I actually just completely re-engineered this page. It made sense reading what everyone had to say. The extra page that I wanted to post to was really not needed. I have everything just contained in the one php script now, and its working perfectly that way. After it submits the order, it then redirects to a confirmation page, rather than trying to validate, rebuilt the post string, and then submitting that to another page for processing and confirmation. Just made more sense really. In the future, though, if I find I need to do this, curl seemed to be the best option. I've used javascript in the past to do it, but it seemed messy to me. -- -Dan Joseph www.canishosting.com - Plans start @ $1.99/month. Build a man a fire, and he will be warm for the rest of the day. Light a man on fire, and will be warm for the rest of his life.
Re: [PHP] Thank you...
Jason Pruim schreef: On Sep 11, 2008, at 8:58 AM, Micah Gersten wrote: There is only 1 military service person that should be thanked for actions on 9/11 and that is the man who was brave enough to disobey orders and shoot down the flight over Pennsylvania. The rest who were involved obeyed orders and let chaos happen. There are many military men and women who for action after 9/11 deserve our thanks though. Anyone that defends their country deserves their countries thanks and appreciation. and the war's in the middle east constitute defense in what way exactly? -- Jason Pruim Raoset Inc. Technology Manager MQC Specialist 11287 James St Holland, MI 49424 www.raoset.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Thank you...
On Sep 11, 2008, at 9:13 AM, Jochem Maas wrote: Jason Pruim schreef: On Sep 11, 2008, at 8:58 AM, Micah Gersten wrote: There is only 1 military service person that should be thanked for actions on 9/11 and that is the man who was brave enough to disobey orders and shoot down the flight over Pennsylvania. The rest who were involved obeyed orders and let chaos happen. There are many military men and women who for action after 9/11 deserve our thanks though. Anyone that defends their country deserves their countries thanks and appreciation. and the war's in the middle east constitute defense in what way exactly? Never said they did... It's just today I wanted to say thank you to everyone that defends their country -- Jason Pruim Raoset Inc. Technology Manager MQC Specialist 11287 James St Holland, MI 49424 www.raoset.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] Thank you...
[snip] and the war's in the middle east constitute defense in what way exactly? [/snip] Let's not let this degrade please. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Thank you...
On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 2:13 PM, Jochem Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jason Pruim schreef: On Sep 11, 2008, at 8:58 AM, Micah Gersten wrote: There is only 1 military service person that should be thanked for actions on 9/11 and that is the man who was brave enough to disobey orders and shoot down the flight over Pennsylvania. The rest who were involved obeyed orders and let chaos happen. There are many military men and women who for action after 9/11 deserve our thanks though. Anyone that defends their country deserves their countries thanks and appreciation. and the war's in the middle east constitute defense in what way exactly? In the way that the petroil don't get out of america's companies? That their economy don't get worser? -- Jason Pruim Raoset Inc. Technology Manager MQC Specialist 11287 James St Holland, MI 49424 www.raoset.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- Thanks, Diogo Neves Web Developer @ SAPO.pt by PrimeIT.pt
Re: [PHP] Thank you...
On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 2:18 PM, Jason Pruim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sep 11, 2008, at 9:13 AM, Jochem Maas wrote: Jason Pruim schreef: On Sep 11, 2008, at 8:58 AM, Micah Gersten wrote: There is only 1 military service person that should be thanked for actions on 9/11 and that is the man who was brave enough to disobey orders and shoot down the flight over Pennsylvania. The rest who were involved obeyed orders and let chaos happen. There are many military men and women who for action after 9/11 deserve our thanks though. Anyone that defends their country deserves their countries thanks and appreciation. and the war's in the middle east constitute defense in what way exactly? Never said they did... It's just today I wanted to say thank you to everyone that defends their country That said, that isn't defense, then they r not defending, and you can always make a special list to thank people that r invading other contries anyway. -- Jason Pruim Raoset Inc. Technology Manager MQC Specialist 11287 James St Holland, MI 49424 www.raoset.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- Thanks, Diogo Neves Web Developer @ SAPO.pt by PrimeIT.pt
[PHP] Re: Interntet Explorer 8 beater 2
Micah Gersten wrote: In the Microsoft world, you only support the latest couple of OSs, so IE7 won't run on Win2k. What about FF, Opera, Chrome, Safari? Do *any* of those work? If not, then it wouldn't take long to get one of them working if IE had a sunset date in it. Then you'd see how quickly MS responded with making IEx work on their older OSes (and simply recompiling IE6 with a newer sunset date should not be allowed!) I'm not sure how you would police it, but there should be a badge of honour associated with the system in some way, probably overseen by W3C. Col -- Colin Guthrie gmane(at)colin.guthr.ie http://colin.guthr.ie/ Day Job: Tribalogic Limited [http://www.tribalogic.net/] Open Source: Mandriva Linux Contributor [http://www.mandriva.com/] PulseAudio Hacker [http://www.pulseaudio.org/] Trac Hacker [http://trac.edgewall.org/] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Thank you...
Okay... I am sorry that I even sent the message. 7 years ago today, My Uncle died because he worked in the south tower on the 93rd floor All I wanted to do was say thank you to the WORLDS armed forces for feeling the call to protect their country from what ever enemy was at their gates Even to the point of thanking the iraqi army for defending their country against America LET THIS END HERE PLEASE! -- Jason Pruim Raoset Inc. Technology Manager MQC Specialist 11287 James St Holland, MI 49424 www.raoset.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Thank you...
Jochem Maas wrote: Jason Pruim schreef: On Sep 11, 2008, at 8:58 AM, Micah Gersten wrote: There is only 1 military service person that should be thanked for actions on 9/11 and that is the man who was brave enough to disobey orders and shoot down the flight over Pennsylvania. The rest who were involved obeyed orders and let chaos happen. There are many military men and women who for action after 9/11 deserve our thanks though. Anyone that defends their country deserves their countries thanks and appreciation. and the war's in the middle east constitute defense in what way exactly? Hi, I'm not an American (nor I ever will be), but GW declared the War himself, so he started it. There's no defense if you start a war and start attacking another country on behalf of it's citizens. What these called 'terrorists' was not on behalf on any countries authorities. BTW, I still think 9/11 is inflicted by the government of the U.S. of A. themselves, because a lot points towards their involvement and none points to anyone like Bin Laden.. Or try to anwser at least some of these questions: http://www.rense.com/general24/t500.htm If you want to get free from your government, check out these pages and at least know your rights: http://www.thinkfree.ca/ http://spiritualeconomicsnow.net/ -- Aschwin Wesselius /'What you would like to be done to you, do that to the other'/
Re: [PHP] Thank you...
On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 9:23 AM, Jason Pruim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay... I am sorry that I even sent the message. 7 years ago today, My Uncle died because he worked in the south tower on the 93rd floor All I wanted to do was say thank you to the WORLDS armed forces for feeling the call to protect their country from what ever enemy was at their gates Even to the point of thanking the iraqi army for defending their country against America LET THIS END HERE PLEASE! -- Jason Pruim Raoset Inc. Technology Manager MQC Specialist 11287 James St Holland, MI 49424 www.raoset.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php Jason, you have nothing to be sorry for. The post was good. There's always 1-2 guys in every crowd that are going to say something inappropriate. Just ignore 'em. Have you all seen the picture of the new battle cruiser built out of the scrap metal from the towers? -- -Dan Joseph www.canishosting.com - Plans start @ $1.99/month. Build a man a fire, and he will be warm for the rest of the day. Light a man on fire, and will be warm for the rest of his life.
Re: [PHP] Thank you...
Dan Joseph schrieb: On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 9:23 AM, Jason Pruim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay... I am sorry that I even sent the message. 7 years ago today, My Uncle died because he worked in the south tower on the 93rd floor All I wanted to do was say thank you to the WORLDS armed forces for feeling the call to protect their country from what ever enemy was at their gates Even to the point of thanking the iraqi army for defending their country against America LET THIS END HERE PLEASE! -- Jason Pruim Raoset Inc. Technology Manager MQC Specialist 11287 James St Holland, MI 49424 www.raoset.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php Jason, you have nothing to be sorry for. The post was good. There's always 1-2 guys in every crowd that are going to say something inappropriate. Just ignore 'em. Have you all seen the picture of the new battle cruiser built out of the scrap metal from the towers? Hi @all, what about a generally to shut up. More Respect please. Regards Carlos -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] Thank you...
[snip] what about a generally to shut up. More Respect please. [/snip] I will ask againplease do not let this degrade. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Thank you...
Jason, I think you just mentioned what we should remember today. The victims that lost their lives. I think everyone can agree that it was a tragedy. My condolences to you and all the other familes. Thank you, Micah Gersten Jason Pruim wrote: Okay... I am sorry that I even sent the message. 7 years ago today, My Uncle died because he worked in the south tower on the 93rd floor All I wanted to do was say thank you to the WORLDS armed forces for feeling the call to protect their country from what ever enemy was at their gates Even to the point of thanking the iraqi army for defending their country against America LET THIS END HERE PLEASE! -- Jason Pruim Raoset Inc. Technology Manager MQC Specialist 11287 James St Holland, MI 49424 www.raoset.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Re: Interntet Explorer 8 beater 2
On Thu, 11 Sep 2008 14:22:30 +0100, Colin Guthrie wrote: [...] I'm not sure how you would police it, but there should be a badge of honour associated with the system in some way, probably overseen by W3C. Like this? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acid2 -- Ross McKay, Toronto, NSW Australia You can't control what you can't measure - Tom DeMarco -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] Thank you...
Jay Blanchard wrote: [snip] and the war's in the middle east constitute defense in what way exactly? [/snip] Let's not let this degrade please. The OP presumably knew what he was doing - given the polarized views on this, this thread was bound to degrade very quickly. Just stop. /Per Jessen, Zürich -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Why MS Won't Retire Browsers -- was: Interntet Explorer 8 beater 2
The problem is that if you're running on older hardware, IE7 might be too CPU intensive to run correctly. That's why MS won't set Sunset Dates for an old browser. They instead set the Sunset Dates for the OS and that's how they make things out of date. They say upgrade the OS. Matter of philosophy. The problem is that the new OS won't run on the old hardware and costs lots of money so people don't upgrade. Remember, MS is for profit. If you can just upgrade your browser, they don't make any money. If you upgrade your OS, they do. Thank you, Micah Gersten onShore Networks Internal Developer http://www.onshore.com Colin Guthrie wrote: What about FF, Opera, Chrome, Safari? Do *any* of those work? If not, then it wouldn't take long to get one of them working if IE had a sunset date in it. Then you'd see how quickly MS responded with making IEx work on their older OSes (and simply recompiling IE6 with a newer sunset date should not be allowed!) I'm not sure how you would police it, but there should be a badge of honour associated with the system in some way, probably overseen by W3C. Col -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Securing pages sections
Hi All, This is more of a logic/opinion question... I want to get some fresh ideas. I am working on a system to manage quotes and orders. I have many users, all different levels, and want to secure pages based on active session, user level, and then go as far as putting access keys on a given page to only give it access to those people with the key can access the page. I'd like to know what others are doing from a logic stand point. I've gone as far as creating a couple tables: SecurityKeys - SecurityKeyID - KeyName - KeyLevel - IsActive SecurityKeysAssigned - AssignedID - EmployeeID - SecurityKeyID Would anyone suggest a different strategy to the database portion? Maybe additions or subtractions to the tables? Also, how would go about implementing them the key system? Again, I am looking for some opinions or experiences anyone has had doing this. Thanks! -- -Dan Joseph www.canishosting.com - Plans start @ $1.99/month. Build a man a fire, and he will be warm for the rest of the day. Light a man on fire, and will be warm for the rest of his life.
Re: [PHP] Why MS Won't Retire Browsers -- was: Interntet Explorer 8 beater 2
Micah Gersten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The problem is that if you're running on older hardware, IE7 might be too CPU intensive to run correctly. That's why MS won't set Sunset Dates for an old browser. They instead set the Sunset Dates for the OS and that's how they make things out of date. They say upgrade the OS. Matter of philosophy. The problem is that the new OS won't run on the old hardware and costs lots of money so people don't upgrade. Remember, MS is for profit. If you can just upgrade your browser, they don't make any money. If you upgrade your OS, they do. My last upgrade was from XP to Ubuntu. :) And believe it or not, if you want to test your test on Ubuntu there is an IE for it or you can just WINE things. :) Wolf -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Securing pages sections
Dan Joseph [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, This is more of a logic/opinion question... I want to get some fresh ideas. I am working on a system to manage quotes and orders. I have many users, all different levels, and want to secure pages based on active session, user level, and then go as far as putting access keys on a given page to only give it access to those people with the key can access the page. I'd like to know what others are doing from a logic stand point. I've gone as far as creating a couple tables: SecurityKeys - SecurityKeyID - KeyName - KeyLevel - IsActive SecurityKeysAssigned - AssignedID - EmployeeID - SecurityKeyID Would anyone suggest a different strategy to the database portion? Maybe additions or subtractions to the tables? Also, how would go about implementing them the key system? Again, I am looking for some opinions or experiences anyone has had doing this. I have a quote system I developed many years ago. It uses Sessions and sets the pricing per other defined rules in the table on the products. I have set percentages so that someone who doesn't get the deals gets the full price and each deal after that gets tweaked. When updating the product you can either set the price point for the rest, or set the percentages and the forms do the work. You use the sessions and check to see if active. You have a temp table that runs while people are shopping and the quotes/orders are saved with the date,time,userID and tied in the DB to the user so that I easily get a set of links to them. HTH, Wolf -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Mysqli issue
No political undertones in this one I promise! :) Attempting to setup a prepared statement in php that will update a record in a mysql database using mysqli Here is the relevant code: $stmt = mysqli_stmt_init($link); mysqli_stmt_prepare($stmt, UPDATE purl.schreur (FName, LName, email, phone, record, subscribed, date, IPAddress, Business, Address1, City, State, Zip, Coffee, Meeting, areaPlans) VALUES (?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?)); mysqli_stmt_bind_param($stmt, 'ss', $_POST['txtFName'], $_POST['txtLName'], $_POST['txtEmail'], $_POST['txtPhone'], $_POST['txturl'], $_POST['record'], $_POST['subscribed'],$date, $_SERVER['REMOTE_ADDR'], $_POST['txtBusiness'], $_POST['txtAddress1'], $_POST['txtCity'], $_POST['txtState'], $_POST['txtZip'], $_POST['rdoCoffee'], $_POST['rdoTime'], $_POST['areaPlans']) ;//or die(mysqli_error($link)); echo BRDump of stmt:BR; mysqli_stmt_execute($stmt) or die(mysqli_error($link)); Here is my error message: You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near '(FName, LName, email, phone, record, subscribed, date, IPAddress, Business, Addr' at line 1 Now I may just be being dense but I can't figure out the problem... Migraines are not helping right now though Can anyone see my stupid mistake? :) -- Jason Pruim Raoset Inc. Technology Manager MQC Specialist 11287 James St Holland, MI 49424 www.raoset.com [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[PHP] Re: Google Maps Distance Between UK Postcodes
At 5:37 PM +0100 9/1/08, Colin Guthrie wrote: Tom Chubb wrote: That's all way above my head, but I think I'll be able to understand it after a strong coffee! I should point out that this is really just trig and is only an approximate distance as the crow flies. Not even sure if it takes the curvature of the earth into consideration, but it's probably good enough for most things. I've reviewed your code and it does not include the curvature of the earth -- it's a flat surface computation. Considering that my other profession is Geophysicist, I'm kind of up on those sort of things. The Earth is an oblate spheroid and the computation to include the curvature of the earth would be a bit more involved. But, I agree that your computation should be good enough for most things. Cheers, tedd Here's yet another get distance thing from lat/long, but it's for miles. function getDistance($lat1, $lon1, $lat2, $lon2) { $rad = doubleval(pi()/180.0); $lon1 = doubleval($lon1) * $rad; $lat1 = doubleval($lat1) * $rad; $lon2 = doubleval($lon2) * $rad; $lat2 = doubleval($lat2) * $rad; $theta = $lon2 - $lon1; $distance = acos(sin($lat1) * sin($lat2) + cos($lat1) * cos($lat2) * cos($theta)); if ($distance 0) { $distance += pi(); } $distance = $distance * 6371.2; $miles = doubleval($distance * 0.621); $distance = sprintf(%.2f, $distance); $miles = sprintf(%.4f, $miles); return $miles; } -- --- http://sperling.com http://ancientstones.com http://earthstones.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Securing pages sections
Dan Joseph wrote: Again, I am looking for some opinions or experiences anyone has had doing this. Define your access policies as area+type, e.g. sales, readonly. Than attach policies to users, maybe groups of users. For each page or section of a page, check that the current user has the necessary access. /Per Jessen, Zürich -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Re: Google Maps Distance Between UK Postcodes
At 5:37 PM +0100 9/1/08, Colin Guthrie wrote: Tom Chubb wrote: That's all way above my head, but I think I'll be able to understand it after a strong coffee! I should point out that this is really just trig and is only an approximate distance as the crow flies. Not even sure if it takes the curvature of the earth into consideration, but it's probably good enough for most things. Oh, I forgot to add -- I use it for this: http://php1.net/b/zipcode/ This plugs into a zip code dB that has the center of the zip code in lats and longs. Cheers, tedd -- --- http://sperling.com http://ancientstones.com http://earthstones.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Mysqli issue
On 11 Sep 2008, at 16:15, Jason Pruim wrote: Attempting to setup a prepared statement in php that will update a record in a mysql database using mysqli Here is the relevant code: $stmt = mysqli_stmt_init($link); mysqli_stmt_prepare($stmt, UPDATE purl.schreur (FName, LName, email, phone, record, subscribed, date, IPAddress, Business, Address1, City, State, Zip, Coffee, Meeting, areaPlans) VALUES (?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?)); mysqli_stmt_bind_param($stmt, 'ss', $_POST ['txtFName'], $_POST['txtLName'], $_POST['txtEmail'], $_POST ['txtPhone'], $_POST['txturl'], $_POST['record'], $_POST ['subscribed'],$date, $_SERVER['REMOTE_ADDR'], $_POST ['txtBusiness'], $_POST['txtAddress1'], $_POST['txtCity'], $_POST ['txtState'], $_POST['txtZip'], $_POST['rdoCoffee'], $_POST ['rdoTime'], $_POST['areaPlans']) ;//or die(mysqli_error($link)); echo BRDump of stmt:BR; mysqli_stmt_execute($stmt) or die(mysqli_error($link)); Here is my error message: You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near '(FName, LName, email, phone, record, subscribed, date, IPAddress, Business, Addr' at line 1 Now I may just be being dense but I can't figure out the problem... Migraines are not helping right now though Can anyone see my stupid mistake? :) That's the syntax for an insert statement. Suggest you read this: http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/update.html -Stut -- http://stut.net/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: Google Maps Distance Between UK Postcodes
On Sep 11, 2008, at 11:19 AM, tedd wrote: At 5:37 PM +0100 9/1/08, Colin Guthrie wrote: Tom Chubb wrote: That's all way above my head, but I think I'll be able to understand it after a strong coffee! I should point out that this is really just trig and is only an approximate distance as the crow flies. Not even sure if it takes the curvature of the earth into consideration, but it's probably good enough for most things. Oh, I forgot to add -- I use it for this: http://php1.net/b/zipcode/ This plugs into a zip code dB that has the center of the zip code in lats and longs. Cheers, tedd In regards to your php1.net/b/zipcode/ ... I think I may have found a bug :) zipcode 49422 does not show up as being within 10 miles of 49424 even though 49423 does. FYI, 49422 is the zipcode for holland, mi PO BOXES so I'm not sure if your database has that included or not... Or where they would even register the lat/lon... I would assume at the holland post office.. but I could be wrong. -- Jason Pruim Raoset Inc. Technology Manager MQC Specialist 11287 James St Holland, MI 49424 www.raoset.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Mysqli issue
Jason Pruim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No political undertones in this one I promise! :) Attempting to setup a prepared statement in php that will update a record in a mysql database using mysqli Here is the relevant code: $stmt = mysqli_stmt_init($link); mysqli_stmt_prepare($stmt, UPDATE purl.schreur (FName, LName, email, phone, record, subscribed, date, IPAddress, Business, Address1, City, State, Zip, Coffee, Meeting, areaPlans) VALUES (?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?)); mysqli_stmt_bind_param($stmt, 'ss', $_POST['txtFName'], $_POST['txtLName'], $_POST['txtEmail'], $_POST['txtPhone'], $_POST['txturl'], $_POST['record'], $_POST['subscribed'],$date, $_SERVER['REMOTE_ADDR'], $_POST['txtBusiness'], $_POST['txtAddress1'], $_POST['txtCity'], $_POST['txtState'], $_POST['txtZip'], $_POST['rdoCoffee'], $_POST['rdoTime'], $_POST['areaPlans']) ;//or die(mysqli_error($link)); echo BRDump of stmt:BR; mysqli_stmt_execute($stmt) or die(mysqli_error($link)); Here is my error message: You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near '(FName, LName, email, phone, record, subscribed, date, IPAddress, Business, Addr' at line 1 Now I may just be being dense but I can't figure out the problem... Migraines are not helping right now though Can anyone see my stupid mistake? :) OK, you asked for it... You aren't checking your stuff before dumping it. None of it... So, you should be taking the post variables and slapping them into a checker. Then, your statement should be more along the lines of: mysqli_stmt_bind_param($stmt, 'ss','$txtFName','$txtLName','$txtEmail','$txtPhone','$txturl','$record','$subscribed',$date, '$REMOTE_ADDR','$txtBusiness','$txtAddress1','$txtCity','$txtState','$txtZip','$rdoCoffee','$rdoTime','$areaPlans') ; HTH, Wolf -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: Google Maps Distance Between UK Postcodes
On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 8:17 AM, tedd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Considering that my other profession is Geophysicist, I'm kind of up on those sort of things. The Earth is an oblate spheroid and the computation to include the curvature of the earth would be a bit more involved. what do you think of the code i mentioned earlier? $distance = number_format(ceil(69*rad2deg(acos(sin(deg2rad($ulat)) * sin(deg2rad($vlat)) + cos(deg2rad($ulat)) * cos(deg2rad($vlat)) * cos(deg2rad($ulong - $vlong)); where: $ulat = latitude of user #1 $ulong = longitude of user #1 $vlat = latitude of user #2 $vlong = longitude of user #2 I took the very popular mysql query (at the time) that supposedly works with a sphere and mapped it to php functions and it has appeared to work very well. I have only tested with US zip codes, but the concept should be the same as long as lat/long are centered properly. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Mysqli issue
On Sep 11, 2008, at 11:29 AM, Wolf wrote: Jason Pruim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No political undertones in this one I promise! :) Attempting to setup a prepared statement in php that will update a record in a mysql database using mysqli Here is the relevant code: $stmt = mysqli_stmt_init($link); mysqli_stmt_prepare($stmt, UPDATE purl.schreur (FName, LName, email, phone, record, subscribed, date, IPAddress, Business, Address1, City, State, Zip, Coffee, Meeting, areaPlans) VALUES (?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?)); mysqli_stmt_bind_param($stmt, 'ss', $_POST['txtFName'], $_POST['txtLName'], $_POST['txtEmail'], $_POST['txtPhone'], $_POST['txturl'], $_POST['record'], $_POST['subscribed'],$date, $_SERVER['REMOTE_ADDR'], $_POST['txtBusiness'], $_POST['txtAddress1'], $_POST['txtCity'], $_POST['txtState'], $_POST['txtZip'], $_POST['rdoCoffee'], $_POST['rdoTime'], $_POST['areaPlans']) ;//or die(mysqli_error($link)); echo BRDump of stmt:BR; mysqli_stmt_execute($stmt) or die(mysqli_error($link)); Here is my error message: You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near '(FName, LName, email, phone, record, subscribed, date, IPAddress, Business, Addr' at line 1 Now I may just be being dense but I can't figure out the problem... Migraines are not helping right now though Can anyone see my stupid mistake? :) OK, you asked for it... You aren't checking your stuff before dumping it. None of it... My understanding is that mysqli prepared statements took care of most of that. I do need to learn a little more about that though to be sure. So, you should be taking the post variables and slapping them into a checker. Then, your statement should be more along the lines of: mysqli_stmt_bind_param($stmt, 'ss ','$ txtFName ','$ txtLName','$txtEmail','$txtPhone','$txturl','$record','$subscribed', $date, '$ REMOTE_ADDR ','$ txtBusiness ','$ txtAddress1 ','$ txtCity','$txtState','$txtZip','$rdoCoffee','$rdoTime','$areaPlans') ; Isn't that just a style difference though? Does it matter if I pull from $_POST['txtZip'], $txtZip, or $Zip? Assuming that I am properly escaping/protecting against sql injection? And yes I really am interested :) -- Jason Pruim Raoset Inc. Technology Manager MQC Specialist 11287 James St Holland, MI 49424 www.raoset.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Mysqli issue
On 11 Sep 2008, at 16:29, Wolf wrote: Jason Pruim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No political undertones in this one I promise! :) Attempting to setup a prepared statement in php that will update a record in a mysql database using mysqli Here is the relevant code: $stmt = mysqli_stmt_init($link); mysqli_stmt_prepare($stmt, UPDATE purl.schreur (FName, LName, email, phone, record, subscribed, date, IPAddress, Business, Address1, City, State, Zip, Coffee, Meeting, areaPlans) VALUES (?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?)); mysqli_stmt_bind_param($stmt, 'ss', $_POST['txtFName'], $_POST['txtLName'], $_POST['txtEmail'], $_POST['txtPhone'], $_POST['txturl'], $_POST['record'], $_POST['subscribed'],$date, $_SERVER['REMOTE_ADDR'], $_POST['txtBusiness'], $_POST['txtAddress1'], $_POST['txtCity'], $_POST['txtState'], $_POST['txtZip'], $_POST['rdoCoffee'], $_POST['rdoTime'], $_POST['areaPlans']) ;//or die(mysqli_error ($link)); echo BRDump of stmt:BR; mysqli_stmt_execute($stmt) or die(mysqli_error($link)); Here is my error message: You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near '(FName, LName, email, phone, record, subscribed, date, IPAddress, Business, Addr' at line 1 Now I may just be being dense but I can't figure out the problem... Migraines are not helping right now though Can anyone see my stupid mistake? :) OK, you asked for it... You aren't checking your stuff before dumping it. None of it... So, you should be taking the post variables and slapping them into a checker. Then, your statement should be more along the lines of: mysqli_stmt_bind_param($stmt, 'ss','$txtFName','$txtLName','$txtEmail','$txtPhone',' $txturl','$record','$subscribed',$date, '$REMOTE_ADDR','$txtBusiness','$txtAddress1','$txtCity','$txtState','$ txtZip','$rdoCoffee','$rdoTime','$areaPlans') ; I think you're the one who's asking for it... I don't really think Jason wants to insert '$txtFName' as the name. I'm just guessing, but it's a fair bet. If you're going to offer advice to someone be sure to check your message thoroughly before sending it!! To address your actual point, there's no particular reason why that input should be being checked at all. Maybe Jason wants to use exactly what the user is entering. Nothing wrong with that so long as it's properly escaped when being displayed. -Stut -- http://stut.net/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: Google Maps Distance Between UK Postcodes
tedd wrote: At 5:37 PM +0100 9/1/08, Colin Guthrie wrote: Tom Chubb wrote: That's all way above my head, but I think I'll be able to understand it after a strong coffee! I should point out that this is really just trig and is only an approximate distance as the crow flies. Not even sure if it takes the curvature of the earth into consideration, but it's probably good enough for most things. Oh, I forgot to add -- I use it for this: http://php1.net/b/zipcode/ This plugs into a zip code dB that has the center of the zip code in lats and longs. Cheers, tedd I've got code to cal all of this it's rather simple actually - I'll fire it through when i get back from work. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Mysqli issue
!-- SNIP -- Attempting to setup a prepared statement in php that will update a record in a mysql database using mysqli Here is the relevant code: $stmt = mysqli_stmt_init($link); mysqli_stmt_prepare($stmt, UPDATE purl.schreur (FName, LName, email, phone, record, subscribed, date, IPAddress, Business, Address1, City, State, Zip, Coffee, Meeting, areaPlans) VALUES (?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?)); mysqli_stmt_bind_param($stmt, 'ss', $_POST['txtFName'], $_POST['txtLName'], $_POST['txtEmail'], $_POST['txtPhone'], $_POST['txturl'], $_POST['record'], $_POST['subscribed'],$date, $_SERVER['REMOTE_ADDR'], $_POST['txtBusiness'], $_POST['txtAddress1'], $_POST['txtCity'], $_POST['txtState'], $_POST['txtZip'], $_POST['rdoCoffee'], $_POST['rdoTime'], $_POST['areaPlans']) ;//or die(mysqli_error ($link)); echo BRDump of stmt:BR; !-- SNIP -- Then, your statement should be more along the lines of: mysqli_stmt_bind_param($stmt, 'ss','$txtFName','$txtLName','$txtEmail','$txtPhone',' $txturl','$record','$subscribed',$date, '$REMOTE_ADDR','$txtBusiness','$txtAddress1','$txtCity','$txtState','$ txtZip','$rdoCoffee','$rdoTime','$areaPlans') ; Double DOH here... I was looking at my MySQL not MySQLi stuff, and there is some differences... Must be the cold drugs/ '$var' definitely should have been $var since you want the contents, but according to the php site, the prepare is for the query, so my guess is you'll want the query put in the line instead of what looks to be the pieces of the insert? http://us2.php.net/manual/en/mysqli-stmt.prepare.php mysqli_stmt_prepare($stmt, 'SELECT District FROM City WHERE Name=?') Of course, you could do the Query=insert into TABLE values($var,$var.); mysqli_stmt_prepare($stmt, $Query); I'm gonna go drink more cold drugs now... Wolf -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Mysqli issue
On Sep 11, 2008, at 11:23 AM, Stut wrote: On 11 Sep 2008, at 16:15, Jason Pruim wrote: Attempting to setup a prepared statement in php that will update a record in a mysql database using mysqli Here is the relevant code: $stmt = mysqli_stmt_init($link); mysqli_stmt_prepare($stmt, UPDATE purl.schreur (FName, LName, email, phone, record, subscribed, date, IPAddress, Business, Address1, City, State, Zip, Coffee, Meeting, areaPlans) VALUES (?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?)); mysqli_stmt_bind_param($stmt, 'ss', $_POST['txtFName'], $_POST['txtLName'], $_POST['txtEmail'], $_POST['txtPhone'], $_POST['txturl'], $_POST['record'], $_POST['subscribed'],$date, $_SERVER['REMOTE_ADDR'], $_POST['txtBusiness'], $_POST['txtAddress1'], $_POST['txtCity'], $_POST['txtState'], $_POST['txtZip'], $_POST['rdoCoffee'], $_POST['rdoTime'], $_POST['areaPlans']) ;//or die(mysqli_error($link)); echo BRDump of stmt:BR; mysqli_stmt_execute($stmt) or die(mysqli_error($link)); Here is my error message: You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near '(FName, LName, email, phone, record, subscribed, date, IPAddress, Business, Addr' at line 1 Now I may just be being dense but I can't figure out the problem... Migraines are not helping right now though Can anyone see my stupid mistake? :) That's the syntax for an insert statement. Suggest you read this: http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/update.html Hmmm... I looked at it, but didn't see anything that would help with a prepared statement :) Am I that dense or can't we do updates with prepared statements? -- Jason Pruim Raoset Inc. Technology Manager MQC Specialist 11287 James St Holland, MI 49424 www.raoset.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Mysqli issue
On 11 Sep 2008, at 17:08, Jason Pruim wrote: On Sep 11, 2008, at 11:23 AM, Stut wrote: On 11 Sep 2008, at 16:15, Jason Pruim wrote: Attempting to setup a prepared statement in php that will update a record in a mysql database using mysqli Here is the relevant code: $stmt = mysqli_stmt_init($link); mysqli_stmt_prepare($stmt, UPDATE purl.schreur (FName, LName, email, phone, record, subscribed, date, IPAddress, Business, Address1, City, State, Zip, Coffee, Meeting, areaPlans) VALUES (?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?)); mysqli_stmt_bind_param($stmt, 'ss', $_POST ['txtFName'], $_POST['txtLName'], $_POST['txtEmail'], $_POST ['txtPhone'], $_POST['txturl'], $_POST['record'], $_POST ['subscribed'],$date, $_SERVER['REMOTE_ADDR'], $_POST ['txtBusiness'], $_POST['txtAddress1'], $_POST['txtCity'], $_POST ['txtState'], $_POST['txtZip'], $_POST['rdoCoffee'], $_POST ['rdoTime'], $_POST['areaPlans']) ;//or die(mysqli_error($link)); echo BRDump of stmt:BR; mysqli_stmt_execute($stmt) or die(mysqli_error($link)); Here is my error message: You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near '(FName, LName, email, phone, record, subscribed, date, IPAddress, Business, Addr' at line 1 Now I may just be being dense but I can't figure out the problem... Migraines are not helping right now though Can anyone see my stupid mistake? :) That's the syntax for an insert statement. Suggest you read this: http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/update.html Hmmm... I looked at it, but didn't see anything that would help with a prepared statement :) Am I that dense or can't we do updates with prepared statements? Your problem has nothing to do with your use of prepared statements. Your problem is to do with the syntax of the update statement you're trying to use. Insert statements can look like... insert into `table` (field1, field2) values (value1, value2); but update statements can only be in the form... update `table` set field1=value1, field2=value2 where field3=value3; Clear now? -Stut -- http://stut.net/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Mysqli issue
On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 12:08 PM, Jason Pruim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sep 11, 2008, at 11:23 AM, Stut wrote: On 11 Sep 2008, at 16:15, Jason Pruim wrote: Attempting to setup a prepared statement in php that will update a record in a mysql database using mysqli Here is the relevant code: $stmt = mysqli_stmt_init($link); mysqli_stmt_prepare($stmt, UPDATE purl.schreur (FName, LName, email, phone, record, subscribed, date, IPAddress, Business, Address1, City, State, Zip, Coffee, Meeting, areaPlans) VALUES (?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?)); [snip] Here is my error message: You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near '(FName, LName, email, phone, record, subscribed, date, IPAddress, Business, Addr' at line 1 Now I may just be being dense but I can't figure out the problem... Migraines are not helping right now though Can anyone see my stupid mistake? :) That's the syntax for an insert statement. Suggest you read this: http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/update.html Hmmm... I looked at it, but didn't see anything that would help with a prepared statement :) Am I that dense or can't we do updates with prepared statements? You're just having a bad day and missing it. The problem isn't that you're using a prepared statement or not. The problem is that you're confusing the SQL syntax inside your statement: INSERT INTO purl.schreur (FName, LName, email, phone, record, subscribed, date, IPAddress, Business, Address1, City, State, Zip, Coffee, Meeting, areaPlans) VALUES (?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?,?) or UPDATE purl.schreur SET FName = ?, LName = ?, email = ?, phone = ?, record = ?, subscribed = ?, date = ?, IPAddress = ?, Business = ?, Address1 = ?, City = ?, State = ?, Zip = ?, Coffee = ?, Meeting = ?, areaPlans = ? WHERE [some condition that identifies the row or rows that you want to update] Andrew -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: Interntet Explorer 8 beater 2
Colin Guthrie wrote: Micah Gersten wrote: In the Microsoft world, you only support the latest couple of OSs, so IE7 won't run on Win2k. What about FF, Opera, Chrome, Safari? Do *any* of those work? If not, then it wouldn't take long to get one of them working if IE had a sunset date in it. Then you'd see how quickly MS responded with making IEx work on their older OSes (and simply recompiling IE6 with a newer sunset date should not be allowed!) I'm not sure how you would police it, but there should be a badge of honour associated with the system in some way, probably overseen by W3C. The problem here is the sales job M$ does on the councils when providing their site licences. CERTAINLY when ever I demo new facilities I don't use IE - in fact I have even STRIPPED IE from most machines here, but have a couple of machines that don't matter if IE leaks ;) IE7 does not run on W2k so M$ want money to upgrade to - Vista nowadays - so it's not going to happen any time soon. It would be nice if we could convince IT departments that there ARE other sources of software than M$, and I *AM* now slipping Linux servers into sites where only Windows machines were acceptable a couple of years ago. I suspect that with the current Linux distributions supplying OpenOffice and Firefox out of the box, then a few more IT departments will be moving that way very soon... :) Jochem - You not had the problem of M$ changing default font sizes in different versions of windows? IT departments have enough problems with INSTALLING an upgrade without asking them to CHANGE the font size as well :) The complaint from THIS site was that they could not log out because the 'logout' button was hidden - selecting a size smaller font on the browser fixes the problem, but we have to add a scroll bar to the menu because They can't change from the default settings :( -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/lsces/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk// Firebird - http://www.firebirdsql.org/index.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Re: Why MS Won't Retire Browsers -- was: Interntet Explorer 8 beater 2
Micah Gersten wrote: The problem is that if you're running on older hardware, IE7 might be too CPU intensive to run correctly. That's why MS won't set Sunset Dates for an old browser. They instead set the Sunset Dates for the OS and that's how they make things out of date. They say upgrade the OS. Matter of philosophy. The problem is that the new OS won't run on the old hardware and costs lots of money so people don't upgrade. Remember, MS is for profit. If you can just upgrade your browser, they don't make any money. If you upgrade your OS, they do. Fair point but if people are using old OSes and MS want them to upgrade to a newer versin, breaking their ability to surf the web isn't a carrot, but it makes a pretty good stick. Col -- Colin Guthrie gmane(at)colin.guthr.ie http://colin.guthr.ie/ Day Job: Tribalogic Limited [http://www.tribalogic.net/] Open Source: Mandriva Linux Contributor [http://www.mandriva.com/] PulseAudio Hacker [http://www.pulseaudio.org/] Trac Hacker [http://trac.edgewall.org/] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Re: Interntet Explorer 8 beater 2
Lester Caine wrote: Jochem - You not had the problem of M$ changing default font sizes in different versions of windows? IT departments have enough problems with INSTALLING an upgrade without asking them to CHANGE the font size as well :) The complaint from THIS site was that they could not log out because the 'logout' button was hidden - selecting a size smaller font on the browser fixes the problem, but we have to add a scroll bar to the menu because They can't change from the default settings :( Yeah font sizes are a pain... tip of the day: Don't put and XML preamble in if you are using XHTML and get your doctypes right. Once you do that, the font size problems are a lot easier to address. Col -- Colin Guthrie gmane(at)colin.guthr.ie http://colin.guthr.ie/ Day Job: Tribalogic Limited [http://www.tribalogic.net/] Open Source: Mandriva Linux Contributor [http://www.mandriva.com/] PulseAudio Hacker [http://www.pulseaudio.org/] Trac Hacker [http://trac.edgewall.org/] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: Interntet Explorer 8 beater 2
Colin Guthrie schreef: Lester Caine wrote: Jochem - You not had the problem of M$ changing default font sizes in different versions of windows? IT departments have enough problems with INSTALLING an upgrade without asking them to CHANGE the font size as well :) The complaint from THIS site was that they could not log out because the 'logout' button was hidden - selecting a size smaller font on the browser fixes the problem, but we have to add a scroll bar to the menu because They can't change from the default settings :( Yeah font sizes are a pain... tip of the day: Don't put and XML preamble in if you are using XHTML and get your doctypes right. Once you do that, the font size problems are a lot easier to address. indeed they are a pain, properly validating strict xHTML is the start of making it manageable, other part is defining suitable style sheets that fix the problem. plenty of eggheads offer blogs posts/articles etc that define the issues and offer cross-browser font-size solutions. IE font-size hell is exactly that, but there is no reason to have to pass it on to the client ... going through M$Hell is our job ;-) Col -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: Installation doesn't complete, Windows Vista: error - script required to complete
I've always found EasyPHP to be good for this. Installs within minutes, and makes adding the extra packages for PHP an absolute doddle. I know it works on Vista, as I've tried it, although with Vista, some of the more unusual packages didn't install. Ash www.ashleysheridan.co.uk ---BeginMessage--- Ben Stones schrieb: Hi, Others are facing the same problem and theres an official bug report here about it: http://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=43639thanks=3 PHP hasn't fixed it since December 2007, wondering if anyone has a workaround as I cannot even uninstall it now as the same problem arises. Is there any workaround as I have Apache and MySQL all ready and setup. Cheers. Hi, use Xampp -http://www.apachefriends.org/en/xampp-windows.html and relax simply! Carlos Medina -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php ---End Message--- -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] quick php for perl coder question
I want to return an array from a function. I have this: return array($found, $username, $email, $nickname); as my code. I have a bug in the code and I am not sure where yet. Should the above statement with this: array($vars); $vars = function($type, $abc, $xyz); $found = $vars[0]; $username = $vars[1]; $email = $vars[2]; $nickname = $vars[3]; on the other end work? If so, then the bug is somewhere else. Thanks in advance, Tom -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Setting up a password for WAMP
Probably the quickest way is to go into the old command line and restart the mysqld service. There is an option there to set the username it runs under and the password it needs when making a connection. Ash www.ashleysheridan.co.uk ---BeginMessage--- HI On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 12:23 PM, Ben Stones [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Hi, just installed WAMP and wondering how do I setup a root password for accessing phpMyAdmin, MySQL, etc. Couldn't find anything on the WAMP's Website how to do this. I realise this has got nothing to do with PHP specifically but any help will be appreciated! It usually set the root user with blank password it means user 'root' and password ='' regards -- Carlos Eduardo Sotelo Pinto (KrLoS) GNU Linux User Registered #379182 http://csotelop.blogsome.com ---End Message--- -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: New Server Install
I believe that MySQL uses a particular port when connecting over a network such as you're doing. I can't remember the exact port number, but you can Google it. Just check that there's nothing blocking this port either on your computer, the server, or the router/switch or whatever else you are using to connect the computers on the network Ash www.ashleysheridan.co.uk ---BeginMessage--- Shawn McKenzie wrote: Robbert van Andel wrote: I am working on a new webserver running Fedora 9. I installed php-mysql and php-mssql via yum. When I try to connect to our mysql server using php, I get the following error: Can't connect to MySQL server on 'mysqlservername' (13) Here's the weird part, I can connect to the mysql database server just fine from the web server's command line so I'm pretty confident that it's not a firewall issue. While trying to connect using PHP, I see no packets leaving the webserver. Any thoughts? Thanks, Robbert Well, for MySQL there are multiple user perms. In the user table you may see multiple entries for, let's say root. mysql use mysql; mysql select host,user,password from user; hostuserpassword *root*22669F8A96AC3CE42B3E5E8087893840412E035F localhostroot So, root, if accessing from localhost, requires NO paswword. But root, accessing from any other host requires a password. Also, this could have more host entries, but probably not by default. If your db server is on a different host from your web server, this or similar is most likely your problem. -Shawn Or, there is no * entry (all hosts). In which case you should add a specific entry for your web server. -Shawn -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php ---End Message--- -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: New Server Install
2008/9/11 Ashley Sheridan [EMAIL PROTECTED] I believe that MySQL uses a particular port when connecting over a network such as you're doing. I can't remember the exact port number, but you can Google it. Just check that there's nothing blocking this port either on your computer, the server, or the router/switch or whatever else you are using to connect the computers on the network Ash www.ashleysheridan.co.uk -- Forwarded message -- From: Shawn McKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: php-general@lists.php.net Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 21:31:41 -0500 Subject: [PHP] Re: New Server Install Shawn McKenzie wrote: Robbert van Andel wrote: I am working on a new webserver running Fedora 9. I installed php-mysql and php-mssql via yum. When I try to connect to our mysql server using php, I get the following error: Can't connect to MySQL server on 'mysqlservername' (13) Here's the weird part, I can connect to the mysql database server just fine from the web server's command line so I'm pretty confident that it's not a firewall issue. While trying to connect using PHP, I see no packets leaving the webserver. Any thoughts? Thanks, Robbert Well, for MySQL there are multiple user perms. In the user table you may see multiple entries for, let's say root. mysql use mysql; mysql select host,user,password from user; hostuserpassword *root*22669F8A96AC3CE42B3E5E8087893840412E035F localhostroot So, root, if accessing from localhost, requires NO paswword. But root, accessing from any other host requires a password. Also, this could have more host entries, but probably not by default. If your db server is on a different host from your web server, this or similar is most likely your problem. -Shawn Or, there is no * entry (all hosts). In which case you should add a specific entry for your web server. -Shawn -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php I was trying to access MySQL on a remote server from an Excel spreadsheet and I think it was port 3306 but I still haven't got it working yet! HTH
[PHP] Unsetting variables less then 256 bytes
While doing some testing with the unset() function, I noticed that variables that hold values that are less then 256 bytes are not actually unset from memory. Does anyone know this to be true? The tests were run on WampServer 2.0 on a Windows XP machine. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] quick php for perl coder question
Thomas Bolioli schreef: I want to return an array from a function. I have this: return array($found, $username, $email, $nickname); as my code. I have a bug in the code and I am not sure where yet. Should the above statement with this: array($vars); not sure what you meant with the line above, it's valid but does nothing. $vars = function($type, $abc, $xyz); $found = $vars[0]; $username = $vars[1]; $email = $vars[2]; $nickname = $vars[3]; on the other end work? If so, then the bug is somewhere else. yes this should work assuming you meant this: ?php function foo() { $found = true; $username = 'The Joker'; $email = '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; $nickname = 'joker'; return array($found, $username, $email, $nickname); } $vars = foo(); $found = $vars[0]; $username = $vars[1]; $email = $vars[2]; $nickname = $vars[3]; ? although you could do it more perly: ?php list($found, $username, $email, $nickname) = foo(); ? and maybe consider using an assoc array: ?php function foo() { $found = true; $username = 'The Joker'; $email = '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; $nickname = 'joker'; return array( 'found' = $found, 'username' = $username, 'email' = $email, 'nickname' = $nickname, ); } $vars = foo(); // using an associative array negates the need to // define the following variables, you can use // $vars['found'] (etc) as it is quite descriptive // in it's own right :-) $found = $vars['found']; $username = $vars['username']; $email = $vars['email']; $nickname = $vars['nickname']; ? Thanks in advance, Tom -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] quick php for perl coder question
Thomas Bolioli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 09/11/2008 01:10:18 PM: I want to return an array from a function. I have this: return array($found, $username, $email, $nickname); as my code. I have a bug in the code and I am not sure where yet. Should the above statement with this: array($vars); $vars = function($type, $abc, $xyz); $found = $vars[0]; $username = $vars[1]; $email = $vars[2]; $nickname = $vars[3]; on the other end work? If so, then the bug is somewhere else. You probably want: $vars = array(); instead of: array($vars); which will throw an undefined variable error (if error reporting is turned up), but otherwise, yes, that should work. Kirk -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Unsetting variables less then 256 bytes
Shevnock, Daniel wrote: While doing some testing with the unset() function, I noticed that variables that hold values that are less then 256 bytes are not actually unset from memory. Does anyone know this to be true? The tests were run on WampServer 2.0 on a Windows XP machine. Please, try starting your own thread if you have a question. Thanks -- Jim Lucas Some men are born to greatness, some achieve greatness, and some have greatness thrust upon them. Twelfth Night, Act II, Scene V by William Shakespeare -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: New Server Install
Tom Chubb wrote: 2008/9/11 Ashley Sheridan [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I believe that MySQL uses a particular port when connecting over a network such as you're doing. I can't remember the exact port number, but you can Google it. Just check that there's nothing blocking this port either on your computer, the server, or the router/switch or whatever else you are using to connect the computers on the network Ash www.ashleysheridan.co.uk http://www.ashleysheridan.co.uk -- Forwarded message -- From: Shawn McKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: php-general@lists.php.net mailto:php-general@lists.php.net Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 21:31:41 -0500 Subject: [PHP] Re: New Server Install Shawn McKenzie wrote: Robbert van Andel wrote: I am working on a new webserver running Fedora 9. I installed php-mysql and php-mssql via yum. When I try to connect to our mysql server using php, I get the following error: Can't connect to MySQL server on 'mysqlservername' (13) Here's the weird part, I can connect to the mysql database server just fine from the web server's command line so I'm pretty confident that it's not a firewall issue. While trying to connect using PHP, I see no packets leaving the webserver. Any thoughts? Thanks, Robbert Well, for MySQL there are multiple user perms. In the user table you may see multiple entries for, let's say root. mysql use mysql; mysql select host,user,password from user; hostuserpassword *root*22669F8A96AC3CE42B3E5E8087893840412E035F localhostroot So, root, if accessing from localhost, requires NO paswword. But root, accessing from any other host requires a password. Also, this could have more host entries, but probably not by default. If your db server is on a different host from your web server, this or similar is most likely your problem. -Shawn Or, there is no * entry (all hosts). In which case you should add a specific entry for your web server. -Shawn -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php I was trying to access MySQL on a remote server from an Excel spreadsheet and I think it was port 3306 but I still haven't got it working yet! HTH Install MyODBC and setup an ODBC connection on your PC. -Shawn -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] namespaces ... coming to a php5.3 near you.
has anyone here downloaded/compiled 5.3 and played with namespaces? have you encountered any issues/problems? I'd like to hear from you as I've been asked to compile a reference documenting anything/everything people may have come across (so far as namespaces go), if you have some reproduce code, all the better. rgds, Jochem -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] Re: Google Maps Distance Between UK Postcodes
-Original Message- From: tedd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 10:17 AM To: php-general@lists.php.net Subject: [PHP] Re: Google Maps Distance Between UK Postcodes At 5:37 PM +0100 9/1/08, Colin Guthrie wrote: Tom Chubb wrote: That's all way above my head, but I think I'll be able to understand it after a strong coffee! I should point out that this is really just trig and is only an approximate distance as the crow flies. Not even sure if it takes the curvature of the earth into consideration, but it's probably good enough for most things. I've reviewed your code and it does not include the curvature of the earth -- it's a flat surface computation. Considering that my other profession is Geophysicist, I'm kind of up on those sort of things. The Earth is an oblate spheroid and the computation to include the curvature of the earth would be a bit more involved. ---8--- snip But it's also NOT an oblate spheroid! :) http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/09/08/ten-things-you -dont-know-about-the-earth/ Todd Boyd Web Programmer -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: New Server Install
2008/9/11 Shawn McKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tom Chubb wrote: 2008/9/11 Ashley Sheridan [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I believe that MySQL uses a particular port when connecting over a network such as you're doing. I can't remember the exact port number, but you can Google it. Just check that there's nothing blocking this port either on your computer, the server, or the router/switch or whatever else you are using to connect the computers on the network Ash www.ashleysheridan.co.uk http://www.ashleysheridan.co.uk -- Forwarded message -- From: Shawn McKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: php-general@lists.php.net mailto:php-general@lists.php.net Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 21:31:41 -0500 Subject: [PHP] Re: New Server Install Shawn McKenzie wrote: Robbert van Andel wrote: I am working on a new webserver running Fedora 9. I installed php-mysql and php-mssql via yum. When I try to connect to our mysql server using php, I get the following error: Can't connect to MySQL server on 'mysqlservername' (13) Here's the weird part, I can connect to the mysql database server just fine from the web server's command line so I'm pretty confident that it's not a firewall issue. While trying to connect using PHP, I see no packets leaving the webserver. Any thoughts? Thanks, Robbert Well, for MySQL there are multiple user perms. In the user table you may see multiple entries for, let's say root. mysql use mysql; mysql select host,user,password from user; hostuserpassword *root*22669F8A96AC3CE42B3E5E8087893840412E035F localhostroot So, root, if accessing from localhost, requires NO paswword. But root, accessing from any other host requires a password. Also, this could have more host entries, but probably not by default. If your db server is on a different host from your web server, this or similar is most likely your problem. -Shawn Or, there is no * entry (all hosts). In which case you should add a specific entry for your web server. -Shawn --PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php I was trying to access MySQL on a remote server from an Excel spreadsheet and I think it was port 3306 but I still haven't got it working yet! HTH Install MyODBC and setup an ODBC connection on your PC. -Shawn Did that and got an error response. I think it's the remote host but was late Friday afternoon last week and haven't got round to trying it again. Thanks though. Anyway, sorry this is veering OT
[PHP] Maps / Distance / GeoCoding [php/mysql]
re: an earlier thread as promised here are some note's on geo-coding using mysql and php (and geoip and distance between points) also worth reading up on wiki about the great circle and associated content! (+openGIS) Won't make sense to all unless you're working with spatial data - if anybody needs I also have the full ip to location databases; + the geo-cords or every dwelling place in the world (basically a mashup of all decent databases combined - about 4gb worth when rar'd) if your a postgres coder you want be checkign out postgis and pgrouting - Geo Data Spatial All geo columns are of type GEOMETRY sith SPATIAL indexes (see mysql 5 spatial documentation http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/spatial-extensions.html); in short they are binary storage columns for geodata. (here's a handy link about it aswell: http://dev.mysql.com/tech-resources/articles/4.1/gis-with-mysql.html ) you extract data from them by using: X(point) as lon Y(point) as lat or AsText(point) in where statements you use MBRContains some functions: function spatialCountryFromIp($ipNumeric=false) { if($ipNumeric) { $getResultsSQL = select l.isocode, l.en, X(l.geopoint) as lon, Y(l.geopoint) as lat from geodata.spatialip_country as i inner join geodata.spatialloc_country as l ON MBRContains(l.geopoint,i.geopoint) where MBRContains(i.iprange,PointFromText('Point(0 .($ipNumeric/1000).)'));; $result = mysql_query($getResultsSQL); /* do what you want with data */ } } public function spatialCityFromIp($ipNumeric=false, $within=1, $units='km') { if($ipNumeric) { if(strtolower(trim($units)) == 'km') { $single_unit = 0.0089992800575953923686105111591073; } $offset = 1*$single_unit; if(is_numeric($within) $within) { $offset = $within*$single_unit; } $getResultsSQL = select l.cid, l.name, X(l.point) as lon, Y(l.point) as lat, l.cc, l.pop, ACOS( SIN(Y(g.geopoint)*pi()/180)*SIN(Y(l.point)*pi()/180) +COS(Y(g.geopoint)*pi()/180)*COS(Y(l.point)*pi()/180) *COS((X(l.point)-X(g.geopoint))*pi()/180) )*6372.795 as distance from geodata.spatialip_city as g inner join geodata.spatialloc_city as l ON MBRContains( GeomFromText( CONCAT( 'POLYGON( ( ',X(g.geopoint)-(.$offset.),' ',Y(g.geopoint)-(.$offset.),', ',X(g.geopoint)+(.$offset.),' ',Y(g.geopoint)-(.$offset.),',
[PHP] Re: Maps / Distance / GeoCoding [php/mysql]
Nathan Rixham wrote: re: an earlier thread [snip] or you may just need this bit: distance = ACOS( SIN(Y(g.geopoint)*pi()/180)*SIN(Y(l.point)*pi()/180) +COS(Y(g.geopoint)*pi()/180)*COS(Y(l.point)*pi()/180) *COS((X(l.point)-X(g.geopoint))*pi()/180))*6372.795 used to calc the distance between two points on the surface of the earth accurately -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Readdir() question
Jochem Maas wrote: Nathan Rixham schreef: Stut wrote: maybe this is into coding standards and ethics.. but this may be acceptable: if( !defined('__DIR__') ) { define('__DIR__' , dirname(__FILE__)); } however realistically you'd have to do this in every file and nto just in one include which would give an error on second and subsequent define()s yet if(!defined... it's already defined so won't be defined subsequent times :) still crap though -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Readdir() question
Nathan Rixham schreef: Jochem Maas wrote: Nathan Rixham schreef: Stut wrote: maybe this is into coding standards and ethics.. but this may be acceptable: if( !defined('__DIR__') ) { define('__DIR__' , dirname(__FILE__)); } however realistically you'd have to do this in every file and nto just in one include which would give an error on second and subsequent define()s yet if(!defined... it's already defined so won't be defined subsequent times :) my bad still crap though yes :-P -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: Why MS Won't Retire Browsers -- was: Interntet Explorer 8 beater 2
Because, M$ earning money from Win GUI. No WinGUI no money. From the begining, M$ try to broke web compatibilty in every way... Sure M$ has bad records about software quality. But even ask yourself. WHY IE (especially 5 and 6) SO buggy even M$ standards. M$ isn't mr nice guy and they wont get a dime from web. They hate web and internet from begining. M$ is anti web IT company. They are too big they are to bold (or bald) to accept changing market and they got too much money on bank to do someting very very stupid. Like Windows VISTA. Don't expect anything good from M$... Regards Sancar -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Serving pages based on user input
Jochem Maas wrote: tedd schreef: At 10:02 PM -0700 8/23/08, Prasad Chand wrote: Thanks for that information. But in my case I need to serve pages based on selection of US states. There are 50 of them, so generating pages dynamically would have been a nice idea. WTF? do you have any idea why we write scripts as opposed to endless copy/pasting of plain (X|(x)HT)ML? and really you don't need to generate 50 pages, merely 50 URLs that end up triggering a single script (which in turn generates output based on the request URL). OK late reply but just to set the record straight. I did not mean generating 50 different pages!!! I would as well do it in html if thats the case. I meant generating a single page with the desired content based on form input. As of now I am using includes to generate the page. I will be more careful with the wording next time. Really, there are 50 of them!?!? :-) unofficially there are 51, well Tony Blair would like to think so. You don't have to generate 50 pages dynamically to do it -- try this: http://webbytedd.com/bbb/map/ That demo is done with just pure css -- no php nor javascript. Plus each one of those States can be linked to another page -- AND-- it is user friendly, validates, accessible, and SEO friendly. What more could anyone want? a version of europe actually :-P seriously how much time did you spend hacking that together? and how did your eyes bleed? If you don't know php, then I think the best way to ask a question on this list by telling us what you want to do rather than asking specific php questions trying to do something they way you think it might work. Thanks for your comment. I was completely new to php so the questions were unrefined, now I am much more comfortable. map-navigation is a good idea but I will need to change the look and feel and I need to give it more time and then I am willing to right now. Btw, I could not download the outline of the map when i saved it as you haven't given permission to the states folder. I had to create the states folder and then download the outline of the us map. no. the best thing would be to RTFM and STFW for a few years, but hey hell will freeze over first ;-) Cheer, tedd -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[GodsWordEachDay] GodsWordEachDay September 11, 2008
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