Re: [PHP] PHP Encoder like IonCube
On 12/05/10 01:06, Ashley Sheridan wrote: On Tue, 2010-05-11 at 16:50 -0700, Brian Dunning wrote: Hi Shiplu - I also have a product with similar requirements. I searched a LOT and was never able to find a free solution that I was satisfied with. Even a lot of the commercial solutions required some server-side runtime EXE or something be installed, and my customers are not tech savvy enough to get that going. I ultimately settled on PHP Lockit, which is $29. It's a Windows program that you run to create an obfuscated version of your script. I'm very satisfied with the obfuscation, and it does not require any external runtime files or anything. Works like a charm, and I recommend it. http://phplockit.com/ - Brian On May 9, 2010, at 1:36 PM, shiplu wrote: Is there any php encoder like IonCube ? Looking for an opensource solution. My main target is to deliver encoded php codes so that it can not be re-engineered. Does slightly limit you to the Windows platform though, which I always think is a shame when using a language as open as PHP. Thanks, Ash http://www.ashleysheridan.co.uk Maybe it'll run under Wine? I might just try that with a demo version... -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP Encoder like IonCube
On 12/05/10 10:48, Pete Ford wrote: On 12/05/10 01:06, Ashley Sheridan wrote: On Tue, 2010-05-11 at 16:50 -0700, Brian Dunning wrote: Hi Shiplu - I also have a product with similar requirements. I searched a LOT and was never able to find a free solution that I was satisfied with. Even a lot of the commercial solutions required some server-side runtime EXE or something be installed, and my customers are not tech savvy enough to get that going. I ultimately settled on PHP Lockit, which is $29. It's a Windows program that you run to create an obfuscated version of your script. I'm very satisfied with the obfuscation, and it does not require any external runtime files or anything. Works like a charm, and I recommend it. http://phplockit.com/ - Brian On May 9, 2010, at 1:36 PM, shiplu wrote: Is there any php encoder like IonCube ? Looking for an opensource solution. My main target is to deliver encoded php codes so that it can not be re-engineered. Does slightly limit you to the Windows platform though, which I always think is a shame when using a language as open as PHP. Thanks, Ash http://www.ashleysheridan.co.uk Maybe it'll run under Wine? I might just try that with a demo version... Looks like it works fine under Wine, at least the demo does... -- Peter Ford, Developer phone: 01580 89 fax: 01580 893399 Justcroft International Ltd. www.justcroft.com Justcroft House, High Street, Staplehurst, Kent TN12 0AH United Kingdom Registered in England and Wales: 2297906 Registered office: Stag Gates House, 63/64 The Avenue, Southampton SO17 1XS -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP Encoder like IonCube
Can you paste a sample encoded version of a php file on pastie.org? Shiplu Mokadd.im My talks, http://talk.cmyweb.net Follow me, http://twitter.com/shiplu SUST Programmers, http://groups.google.com/group/p2psust Innovation distinguishes bet ... ... (ask Steve Jobs the rest) -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP Encoder like IonCube
Output looks pretty typical for something encrypted/obfuscated. As the script will run, it needs to unpack itself ... so you can write automated unpackers for this kind of thing if you want. Best go with Phpsters advice of the contract, you'd be a lot better off (assuming the court system works). On 12 May 2010 12:23, shiplu shiplu@gmail.com wrote: Can you paste a sample encoded version of a php file on pastie.org? Shiplu Mokadd.im My talks, http://talk.cmyweb.net Follow me, http://twitter.com/shiplu SUST Programmers, http://groups.google.com/group/p2psust Innovation distinguishes bet ... ... (ask Steve Jobs the rest) -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- hype WWW: http://plphp.dk / http://plind.dk LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/plind Flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/fake51 BeWelcome: Fake51 Couchsurfing: Fake51 /hype -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP Encoder like IonCube
On 12/05/10 11:23, shiplu wrote: Can you paste a sample encoded version of a php file on pastie.org? Shiplu Mokadd.im My talks, http://talk.cmyweb.net Follow me, http://twitter.com/shiplu SUST Programmers, http://groups.google.com/group/p2psust Innovation distinguishes bet ... ... (ask Steve Jobs the rest) OK, I just did the phpPgAdmin index.php page (just something public-domain I had lying around): Here's the original: http://www.pastie.org/pastes/956801 and here's the encoded: http://www.pastie.org/pastes/956803 I haven't yet checked that the encoded version works! -- Peter Ford, Developer phone: 01580 89 fax: 01580 893399 Justcroft International Ltd. www.justcroft.com Justcroft House, High Street, Staplehurst, Kent TN12 0AH United Kingdom Registered in England and Wales: 2297906 Registered office: Stag Gates House, 63/64 The Avenue, Southampton SO17 1XS -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP Encoder like IonCube
It just obfuscates. Long ago I created a decoder for this type of encoder. Every day I got 100s of decoding requests. After changing my domain and hosting company I didn't upload it yet. I think bcompiler is better. Shiplu Mokadd.im My talks, http://talk.cmyweb.net Follow me, http://twitter.com/shiplu SUST Programmers, http://groups.google.com/group/p2psust Innovation distinguishes bet ... ... (ask Steve Jobs the rest) -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP Encoder like IonCube
On 12 May 2010 12:50, shiplu shiplu@gmail.com wrote: It just obfuscates. Long ago I created a decoder for this type of encoder. Every day I got 100s of decoding requests. After changing my domain and hosting company I didn't upload it yet. You of all people should know the futility in what you're asking then. Regards Peter -- hype WWW: http://plphp.dk / http://plind.dk LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/plind Flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/fake51 BeWelcome: Fake51 Couchsurfing: Fake51 /hype -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP Encoder like IonCube
Hi Shiplu - I also have a product with similar requirements. I searched a LOT and was never able to find a free solution that I was satisfied with. Even a lot of the commercial solutions required some server-side runtime EXE or something be installed, and my customers are not tech savvy enough to get that going. I ultimately settled on PHP Lockit, which is $29. It's a Windows program that you run to create an obfuscated version of your script. I'm very satisfied with the obfuscation, and it does not require any external runtime files or anything. Works like a charm, and I recommend it. http://phplockit.com/ - Brian On May 9, 2010, at 1:36 PM, shiplu wrote: Is there any php encoder like IonCube ? Looking for an opensource solution. My main target is to deliver encoded php codes so that it can not be re-engineered. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP Encoder like IonCube
On Tue, 2010-05-11 at 16:50 -0700, Brian Dunning wrote: Hi Shiplu - I also have a product with similar requirements. I searched a LOT and was never able to find a free solution that I was satisfied with. Even a lot of the commercial solutions required some server-side runtime EXE or something be installed, and my customers are not tech savvy enough to get that going. I ultimately settled on PHP Lockit, which is $29. It's a Windows program that you run to create an obfuscated version of your script. I'm very satisfied with the obfuscation, and it does not require any external runtime files or anything. Works like a charm, and I recommend it. http://phplockit.com/ - Brian On May 9, 2010, at 1:36 PM, shiplu wrote: Is there any php encoder like IonCube ? Looking for an opensource solution. My main target is to deliver encoded php codes so that it can not be re-engineered. Does slightly limit you to the Windows platform though, which I always think is a shame when using a language as open as PHP. Thanks, Ash http://www.ashleysheridan.co.uk
Re: [PHP] PHP Encoder like IonCube
Totally agree. But just in case it wasn't clear, you only need a Windows computer once to run the obfuscator; once done the code runs on any PHP server. On May 11, 2010, at 5:06 PM, Ashley Sheridan wrote: Does slightly limit you to the Windows platform though, which I always think is a shame when using a language as open as PHP. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP Encoder like IonCube
I dont own a windows computer. I found phpcoder.sf.net. it uses eaccelerator to encode. This is good. But the problem is latest version of e-accelerator discontinued the encoder. So may be, an older version will do it. Didn't configured it yet. Shiplu Mokadd.im My talks, http://talk.cmyweb.net Follow me, http://twitter.com/shiplu SUST Programmers, http://groups.google.com/group/p2psust Innovation distinguishes bet ... ... (ask Steve Jobs the rest) -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP Encoder like IonCube
On May 11, 2010, at 8:36 PM, shiplu shiplu@gmail.com wrote: I dont own a windows computer. I found phpcoder.sf.net. it uses eaccelerator to encode. This is good. But the problem is latest version of e-accelerator discontinued the encoder. So may be, an older version will do it. Didn't configured it yet. Shiplu Mokadd.im My talks, http://talk.cmyweb.net Follow me, http://twitter.com/shiplu SUST Programmers, http://groups.google.com/group/p2psust Innovation distinguishes bet ... ... (ask Steve Jobs the rest) -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php Guys, This is what contracts are for. You should be licensing the code to the users/clients. The contract is a legally enforcable doc that protects you. We do this with classic ASP code and have not had any issues at all. Moving to another language is no barrier. The one thing to remember about altering the code is that when, not if, you need to maintain it and your dev machine with all the toys is not available, it's gonna be a pain to deal with. A good contract will help you to avoid all that. Bastien Sent from my iPod -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP Encoder like IonCube
On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 6:28 AM, donald sullivan don...@nixspot.com wrote: bcompiler is available, but with the correct tools data can still be extracted. http://php.net/manual/en/book.bcompiler.php Its not a problem if data can still be extracted. But I guess exact data can not be extracted. If thats the case its okay. Sometimes an obfuscated code is enough to protect it. As far I remember I heard somewhere it can be achieved by e-accelerator somehow. How is it possible? Shiplu Mokadd.im My talks, http://talk.cmyweb.net Follow me, http://twitter.com/shiplu SUST Programmers, http://groups.google.com/group/p2psust Innovation distinguishes bet ... ... (ask Steve Jobs the rest) -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP Encoder like IonCube
On Mon, 2010-05-10 at 12:42 +0600, shiplu wrote: On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 6:28 AM, donald sullivan don...@nixspot.com wrote: bcompiler is available, but with the correct tools data can still be extracted. http://php.net/manual/en/book.bcompiler.php Its not a problem if data can still be extracted. But I guess exact data can not be extracted. If thats the case its okay. Sometimes an obfuscated code is enough to protect it. As far I remember I heard somewhere it can be achieved by e-accelerator somehow. How is it possible? Shiplu Mokadd.im My talks, http://talk.cmyweb.net Follow me, http://twitter.com/shiplu SUST Programmers, http://groups.google.com/group/p2psust Innovation distinguishes bet ... ... (ask Steve Jobs the rest) I have to ask, why do you want to do that? Wouldn't it be easier to offer your application as a system that only you host. That way, the end-user never gets to see your PHP code. Thanks, Ash http://www.ashleysheridan.co.uk
Re: [PHP] PHP Encoder like IonCube
On 10 May 2010 13:25, Ashley Sheridan a...@ashleysheridan.co.uk wrote: On Mon, 2010-05-10 at 12:42 +0600, shiplu wrote: On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 6:28 AM, donald sullivan don...@nixspot.com wrote: bcompiler is available, but with the correct tools data can still be extracted. http://php.net/manual/en/book.bcompiler.php Its not a problem if data can still be extracted. But I guess exact data can not be extracted. If thats the case its okay. Sometimes an obfuscated code is enough to protect it. As far I remember I heard somewhere it can be achieved by e-accelerator somehow. How is it possible? Shiplu Mokadd.im My talks, http://talk.cmyweb.net Follow me, http://twitter.com/shiplu SUST Programmers, http://groups.google.com/group/p2psust Innovation distinguishes bet ... ... (ask Steve Jobs the rest) I have to ask, why do you want to do that? Wouldn't it be easier to offer your application as a system that only you host. That way, the end-user never gets to see your PHP code. Not to mention: if it runs, it can be broken. Regards Peter -- hype WWW: http://plphp.dk / http://plind.dk LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/plind Flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/fake51 BeWelcome: Fake51 Couchsurfing: Fake51 /hype -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP Encoder like IonCube
On May 10, 2010, at 7:36 AM, Peter Lind peter.e.l...@gmail.com wrote: On 10 May 2010 13:25, Ashley Sheridan a...@ashleysheridan.co.uk wrote: On Mon, 2010-05-10 at 12:42 +0600, shiplu wrote: On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 6:28 AM, donald sullivan don...@nixspot.com wrote: bcompiler is available, but with the correct tools data can still be extracted. http://php.net/manual/en/book.bcompiler.php Its not a problem if data can still be extracted. But I guess exact data can not be extracted. If thats the case its okay. Sometimes an obfuscated code is enough to protect it. As far I remember I heard somewhere it can be achieved by e- accelerator somehow. How is it possible? Shiplu Mokadd.im My talks, http://talk.cmyweb.net Follow me, http://twitter.com/shiplu SUST Programmers, http://groups.google.com/group/p2psust Innovation distinguishes bet ... ... (ask Steve Jobs the rest) I have to ask, why do you want to do that? Wouldn't it be easier to offer your application as a system that only you host. That way, the end-user never gets to see your PHP code. Not to mention: if it runs, it can be broken. Regards Peter -- hype WWW: http://plphp.dk / http://plind.dk LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/plind Flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/fake51 BeWelcome: Fake51 Couchsurfing: Fake51 /hype -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php Not to mention that is what contracts are for. Bastien Sent from my iPod -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] PHP Encoder like IonCube
Is there any php encoder like IonCube ? Looking for an opensource solution. My main target is to deliver encoded php codes so that it can not be re-engineered. Shiplu Mokadd.im My talks, http://talk.cmyweb.net Follow me, http://twitter.com/shiplu SUST Programmers, http://groups.google.com/group/p2psust Innovation distinguishes bet ... ... (ask Steve Jobs the rest) -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP Encoder like IonCube
bcompiler is available, but with the correct tools data can still be extracted. http://php.net/manual/en/book.bcompiler.php On May 9, 2010, at 4:36 PM, shiplu wrote: Is there any php encoder like IonCube ? Looking for an opensource solution. My main target is to deliver encoded php codes so that it can not be re-engineered. Shiplu Mokadd.im My talks, http://talk.cmyweb.net Follow me, http://twitter.com/shiplu SUST Programmers, http://groups.google.com/group/p2psust Innovation distinguishes bet ... ... (ask Steve Jobs the rest) -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
