Re: [PHP] Sessions just don't work on my machine. (Trying this again)
Dont use sessions, they are a little flaky anyway. Use a mixture of holding data in database and passing sid/userid/hash around on the URL. You wont regret it. I have written here several times on this subject and in the end those who have gratiously helped me have ended up just telling me they have no clue why it doesn't work. It HAS to be my server setup but I don't know what it could be. Sessions just don't work on my machine... The heart of the problem is the session_start() function. The first time you start a session with this function it creates a new session, that's fine. The problem happens when it's run and no matter if the SSID is in a cookie or passed via a form, it will still create a new session, every single time. It will not pickup the old session. Here is the app I setup to demonstrate the problem: http://fromtheduke.com/session/ The first page initiates the session, the variable is posted to the next page, the next page should retrieve the session and display the first two variables which were registered in the session, then display the third var. You'll see the third var showsup, the first two don't. The session ID may or may not remain the same. If you manually remove the index2.php file and reload the first page, the SSID will have changed. Source of the files: index.php: ? session_start(); session_register(var1); session_register(var2); $var1 = My var 1; $var2 = My var 2; ?HTML HEAD TITLESession Page 1/TITLE /HEAD BODY BGCOLOR=#FF PHPSESSID: ? echo $PHPSESSID; ?BR Var1: ? echo $var1; ?BR Var2: ? echo $var2; ?BR FORM ACTION=index2.php METHOD=POST VAR 3: INPUT TYPE=TEXT VALUE=My Var 3 NAME=myvar3 INPUT TYPE=SUBMIT VALUE=goBR /FORM /BODY /HTML -- Source of index2.php: ? session_start();// start session session_register(var3); // register var 3 session variable $var3 = $myvar3; ?HTML HEAD TITLESession Page 2/TITLE /HEAD BODY BGCOLOR=#FF PHPSESSID: ? echo $PHPSESSID; ?BR Var1: ? echo $var1; ?BR Var2: ? echo $var2; ?BR VAR3: ? echo $var3; ?BR /BODY /HTML -- I have tried session_name() to force the session ID. I was told though this function doesn't set the SSID. It gives the SSID a name or something. I have been told this is all setup correctly, yet, you can see it doesn't work. The permissions on my /tmp directory look like this: drwxrwxrwt /tmp Does this have anything to do with this? I don't know much about the permissions part of things. -- Thomas Deliduka IT Manager - New Eve Media The Solution To Your Internet Angst http://www.neweve.com/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]+44 (0)7970 269 522 http://www.subvertise.org -- Altering the Corporate Image http://www.criticaldistribution.org -- Buy Alternative Video Online http://www.videonetwork.org -- Community/Radical Video http://www.spamcop.net/ -- Killing SPAM feels good! -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PHP] Sessions just don't work on my machine. (Trying this again)
I had the exact same problem.. don't know if you had this advice yet or not but what I did is when I started a session I would grab the session id for that session and put it in a variable and then just pass that session id everywhere I went.. turn on the trans_id or add the session id to the end of every link so it gets pass throughout all the links/forms you have on the site. start_session(); $SID = session_id(); That's what I do and then I just pass the $SID on all the links and forms and it works for me. Hope that helps or is at least something new for you to try. jay - Original Message - From: Thomas Deliduka [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PHP List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 10:56 AM Subject: [PHP] Sessions just don't work on my machine. (Trying this again) I have written here several times on this subject and in the end those who have gratiously helped me have ended up just telling me they have no clue why it doesn't work. It HAS to be my server setup but I don't know what it could be. Sessions just don't work on my machine... The heart of the problem is the session_start() function. The first time you start a session with this function it creates a new session, that's fine. The problem happens when it's run and no matter if the SSID is in a cookie or passed via a form, it will still create a new session, every single time. It will not pickup the old session. Here is the app I setup to demonstrate the problem: http://fromtheduke.com/session/ The first page initiates the session, the variable is posted to the next page, the next page should retrieve the session and display the first two variables which were registered in the session, then display the third var. You'll see the third var showsup, the first two don't. The session ID may or may not remain the same. If you manually remove the index2.php file and reload the first page, the SSID will have changed. Source of the files: index.php: ? session_start(); session_register(var1); session_register(var2); $var1 = My var 1; $var2 = My var 2; ?HTML HEAD TITLESession Page 1/TITLE /HEAD BODY BGCOLOR=#FF PHPSESSID: ? echo $PHPSESSID; ?BR Var1: ? echo $var1; ?BR Var2: ? echo $var2; ?BR FORM ACTION=index2.php METHOD=POST VAR 3: INPUT TYPE=TEXT VALUE=My Var 3 NAME=myvar3 INPUT TYPE=SUBMIT VALUE=goBR /FORM /BODY /HTML -- Source of index2.php: ? session_start();// start session session_register(var3); // register var 3 session variable $var3 = $myvar3; ?HTML HEAD TITLESession Page 2/TITLE /HEAD BODY BGCOLOR=#FF PHPSESSID: ? echo $PHPSESSID; ?BR Var1: ? echo $var1; ?BR Var2: ? echo $var2; ?BR VAR3: ? echo $var3; ?BR /BODY /HTML -- I have tried session_name() to force the session ID. I was told though this function doesn't set the SSID. It gives the SSID a name or something. I have been told this is all setup correctly, yet, you can see it doesn't work. The permissions on my /tmp directory look like this: drwxrwxrwt /tmp Does this have anything to do with this? I don't know much about the permissions part of things. -- Thomas Deliduka IT Manager - New Eve Media The Solution To Your Internet Angst http://www.neweve.com/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PHP] Sessions just don't work on my machine. (Trying this again)
On Monday 24 September 2001 18:20, Thomas Deliduka wrote: On 9/24/2001 12:22 PM this was written: Try to use constant SID, maybe that will work, and it is more likely that it will work on other intallations with other session variable names. I just tried using SID in my index.php and there is nothing that displays. Hmmm. The try this link almost works for me. You just forget the ? sign before the SID. Arpi -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [PHP] Sessions just don't work on my machine. (Trying this again)
Perhaps you could post the [Session] section of your php.ini file. It appears that session.cookie_lifetime is not set to 0, which is what you want for a session cookie. Perhaps we can find another setting that needs a change. Kirk Sessions just don't work on my machine... -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PHP] Sessions just don't work on my machine. (Trying this again)
On 9/24/2001 12:28 PM this was written: Perhaps you could post the [Session] section of your php.ini file. It appears that session.cookie_lifetime is not set to 0, which is what you want for a session cookie. Perhaps we can find another setting that needs a change. My php.ini: [Session] session.save_handler = files session.save_path = /tmp session.use_cookies = 1 session.name = PHPSESSID session.auto_start= 0 session.cookie_lifetime = 3600 session.cookie_path = / session.cookie_domain = session.serialize_handler = php session.gc_probability= 1 session.gc_maxlifetime= 1440 session.referer_check = 0 session.entropy_length= 0 session.entropy_file = ; session.entropy_length= 16 ; session.entropy_file = /dev/urandom session.cache_limiter = nocache session.cache_expire = 180 -- Thomas Deliduka IT Manager - New Eve Media The Solution To Your Internet Angst http://www.neweve.com/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [PHP] Sessions just don't work on my machine. (Trying this again)
After reloading IE on the PC now the SID constant doesn't echo anything at all. SID is always defined on the first page request. It is only defined on later page requests if cookies are disabled in the browser. Kirk -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PHP] Sessions just don't work on my machine. (Trying this again)
On 9/24/2001 12:32 PM this was written: After reloading IE on the PC now the SID constant doesn't echo anything at all. SID is always defined on the first page request. It is only defined on later page requests if cookies are disabled in the browser. So, I shouldn't use that if I'm depending on SID to display on pages to pass the session ID. Or what, disable cookie support in my php.ini? -- Thomas Deliduka IT Manager - New Eve Media The Solution To Your Internet Angst http://www.neweve.com/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PHP] Sessions just don't work on my machine. (Trying this again)
On 9/24/2001 12:39 PM this was written: Try these changes: session.cookie_lifetime = 0 session.use_trans_sid = 1 Also, what version of PHP are you using? PHP: 4.0.6 In the past I had problems with trans_sid with urls that already had querystrings being passed. They would mess up the querystrings, has that been fixed? -- Thomas Deliduka IT Manager - New Eve Media The Solution To Your Internet Angst http://www.neweve.com/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PHP] Sessions just don't work on my machine. (Trying this again)
On 9/24/2001 12:39 PM this was written: Try these changes: session.cookie_lifetime = 0 session.use_trans_sid = 1 I see no changes to my problems. -- Thomas Deliduka IT Manager - New Eve Media The Solution To Your Internet Angst http://www.neweve.com/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PHP] Sessions just don't work on my machine. (Trying this again)
I'm finding my script on www.fromtheduke.com/session/ still doesn't work even with the ?=SID? in the link or passing it along in the form. On 9/24/2001 12:49 PM this was written: On Monday 24 September 2001 18:39, Thomas Deliduka wrote: On 9/24/2001 12:32 PM this was written: After reloading IE on the PC now the SID constant doesn't echo anything at all. SID is always defined on the first page request. It is only defined on later page requests if cookies are disabled in the browser. So, I shouldn't use that if I'm depending on SID to display on pages to pass the session ID. Or what, disable cookie support in my php.ini? No, SID constant is especially usefull when you don't know if the user accepts cookies or not. SID will have a real value (e.g. PHPSESSID=lk123s) when you should add it to the url, and will have an empty value when you don't need to deal with it (because it's been stored in cookie). -- Thomas Deliduka IT Manager - New Eve Media The Solution To Your Internet Angst http://www.neweve.com/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PHP] Sessions just don't work on my machine. (Trying this again)
On 9/24/2001 1:05 PM this was written: On Monday 24 September 2001 18:51, Thomas Deliduka wrote: I'm finding my script on www.fromtheduke.com/session/ still doesn't work even with the ?=SID? in the link or passing it along in the form. Please send us your latest code again, then we can help you, not just guessing what you've might done. Latest code: index.php: ? error_reporting(E_ALL); session_start(); session_register(var1); session_register(var2); $var1 = My var 1; $var2 = My var 2; ?HTML HEAD TITLESession Page 1/TITLE /HEAD BODY BGCOLOR=#FF PHPSESSID: ? echo $PHPSESSID; ?BR Var1: ? echo $var1; ?BR Var2: ? echo $var2; ?BR FORM ACTION=index2.php METHOD=POST Passing sessid: INPUT TYPE=TEXT VALUE=? echo $PHPSESSID; ? SIZE=40 NAME=PHPSESSIDBR VAR 3: INPUT TYPE=TEXT VALUE=My Var 3 NAME=myvar3 INPUT TYPE=SUBMIT VALUE=goBR /FORM BR A HREF=index2.php??=SID?Try this link/A /BODY /HTML index2.php: ? error_reporting(E_ALL); session_start();// start session session_register(var3); // register var 3 session variable $var3 = $myvar3; ?HTML HEAD TITLESession Page 2/TITLE /HEAD BODY BGCOLOR=#FF PHPSESSID: ? echo $PHPSESSID; ?BR Var1: ? echo $var1; ?BR Var2: ? echo $var2; ?BR VAR3: ? echo $var3; ?BR /BODY /HTML -- Thomas Deliduka IT Manager - New Eve Media The Solution To Your Internet Angst http://www.neweve.com/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PHP] Sessions just don't work on my machine. (Trying this again)
On 9/24/2001 1:15 PM this was written: OK, now the session ID is getting passed like it should. Now for the two missing variables. Try moving the two assignment statements ahead of the two session_register() calls - assign, then register. I have never seen this make a difference, but the pros on this list say that is the way it needs to be done. Done, I switched the four lines around. ? error_reporting(E_ALL); session_start(); $var1 = My var 1; $var2 = My var 2; session_register(var1); session_register(var2); ?HTML HEAD TITLESession Page 1/TITLE /HEAD BODY BGCOLOR=#FF PHPSESSID: ? echo $PHPSESSID; ?BR Var1: ? echo $var1; ?BR Var2: ? echo $var2; ?BR FORM ACTION=index2.php METHOD=POST Passing sessid: INPUT TYPE=TEXT VALUE=? echo $PHPSESSID; ? SIZE=40 NAME=PHPSESSIDBR VAR 3: INPUT TYPE=TEXT VALUE=My Var 3 NAME=myvar3 INPUT TYPE=SUBMIT VALUE=goBR /FORM BR A HREF=index2.php??=SID?Try this link/A /BODY /HTML -- Thomas Deliduka IT Manager - New Eve Media The Solution To Your Internet Angst http://www.neweve.com/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PHP] Sessions just don't work on my machine. (Trying this again)
On 9/24/2001 1:18 PM this was written: OK, now the session ID is getting passed like it should. Now for the two missing variables. Try moving the two assignment statements ahead of the two session_register() calls - assign, then register. I have never seen this make a difference, but the pros on this list say that is the way it needs to be done. Done, I switched the four lines around. Same result. -- Thomas Deliduka IT Manager - New Eve Media The Solution To Your Internet Angst http://www.neweve.com/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PHP] Sessions just don't work on my machine. (Trying this again)
Thank you everyone for your continued help with this. It's still not fixed but I have to leave to a dr. appt. I hope that most--If not all--of you are on when I get back. I just wanted to alert you as to why I wouldn't be responding to your questions/messages. Here is the last information I sent Tamas: I find as exepcted, it's creating a new PHPSESSID every time I post to the index2.php As I mentioned in the first e-mail, it ust creates a new session. But this is something I find interesting. I start the session for the first time, it regsiters var1 and var2. Then I post to the next page, the PHPSESSID values are posted perfectly fine but on the server a new session with a different vale is created with var3 in it. Then I will reload the first page again by erasing index2.php and hitting enter and it will display a new sess id number and show the first page, as normal but that sessid number is equal t the new session created on the server and the value of it is: var3; var1; var2 This is stranger than strange. -- Thomas Deliduka IT Manager - New Eve Media The Solution To Your Internet Angst http://www.neweve.com/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PHP] Sessions just don't work on my machine. (Trying this again)
Yeah, I think it's my server setup, or something I have going on on my server because others have said that it works fine for them but not on my machine. I'm running red hat linux 6.1 apache+mod_ssl 1.3.20 On 9/24/2001 2:08 PM this was written: Then I will reload the first page again by erasing index2.php and hitting enter and it will display a new sess id number and show the first page, as normal but that sessid number is equal t the new session created on the server and the value of it is: var3; var1; var2 This is stranger than strange. This isn't so strange. The session id is stored in a cookie. But.. I turned off cookies (debuging can be done much easier), and played a little. I found that the session is created properly on the first page and the 2 variables are registered too. But on the second page they aren't set on the first view (that's stange!). If I reload the page (of course the same sid is in the url), the 2 variables this time are set, with their value that were given on the first page (that's why I told above they were registered, and their values are stored properly, so it's not a problem of rights, session save paths, etc..) So that's what I've found, but I have to go home now sorry. On the other hand the 2 source file you've sent me worked fine on my computer, without any problems (and warnings). -- Thomas Deliduka IT Manager - New Eve Media The Solution To Your Internet Angst http://www.neweve.com/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PHP] Sessions just don't work on my machine. (Trying this again)
I just tried this here below. Before trying this I changed any called to $PHPSESSID to session_id(). I turned off cookies Loaded the page... Created session id and file: sess_44074d3a54862b480c3407c9eb373f77 Contents: var1|s:8:My var 1;var2|s:8:My var 2; I submitted the form: PHPsessionid shows up as: 2f633e17c6752342d0c1e7e6191b4112 New file with same name contents: var3|s:8:My Var 3; I removed index2.php and went back to the first file. PHP SessID shows up as 68b482365d9086068edfa3e35d8dd41d Corresponding file with contents: var1|s:8:My var 1;var2|s:8:My var 2; This is different then what I previously said. But it's clear to me that each time session_start() is called, it doesn't open the existing session rather it creates a new one. When I click the 'try this link' instead when starting over. It still creates a new session ID on the server. On 9/24/2001 1:31 PM this was written: OK, do you have access to your /tmp directory? If so, close your browser, then open it and request your index page. Now sort the files in /tmp by creation time, to find the newly created session file. Look at its contents, and see if the 2 variables have values assigned to them in the file. Do this before you click submit on index. BTW, I don't think $PHPSESSID is ever defined on the first request. Instead, you can do this to see the new session ID on the first page. That will also help you find the correct session file to inspect. echo session id is . session_id() . br\n; -- Thomas Deliduka IT Manager - New Eve Media The Solution To Your Internet Angst http://www.neweve.com/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
