Re: [PHP] problems with sessions variables and virtual domains in apache
esteban wrote: The don't want to pass the session variable across domains. The problem is in the main domain, i don't know what happens, the session variable lost the value or is distroyed. Track down where is happens with lots of 'error_log' and 'print_r' calls. Work out where it breaks then I'm sure you'll work out why it's breaking. -- Postgresql & php tutorials http://www.designmagick.com/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] problems with sessions variables and virtual domains in apache
The don't want to pass the session variable across domains. The problem is in the main domain, i don't know what happens, the session variable lost the value or is distroyed. "Chris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió en el mensaje news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] esteban wrote: > I have a windows 2000 server with apache 2.0 and php 5.1.2. I use session > variables to validate users, each page have something like this: > > if($_SESSION["validated"]==0){ > header("Location: index.php"); > exit; > } > > This worked fine when i had only one domain, but when i began to use virtual > domains, sometimes, not always, the session variable lost the value or the > session variable is distroyed, i don't know what really happens. I add this > lines to httpd.conf for each domain and the main domain is first: > > > ServerAdmin [EMAIL PROTECTED] > DocumentRoot "C:/Program Files/Apache Group/Apache2/htdocs/domain" > ServerName www.domain.com > ErrorLog logs/domain.com-error_log > CustomLog logs/domain.com-access_log common > php_admin_value upload_tmp_dir "C:/Program Files/Apache > Group/Apache2/htdocs/domain/tmp" > php_admin_value session.save_path "C:/Program Files/Apache > Group/Apache2/htdocs/domain/session" > > > At the beginning i didn't use the two last lines with php_admin_value, i add > the lines for trying to solve the problem but it doesn't work. > > I have an application made with phpmaker and SquierreMail v.1.4.7 too, and i > have the same problem in both. In both case sometimes, when i want to go to > other page, the server ask me for the username and the password, it is not > always. If you are going across domains (page 1 is on domain 'a' and page 2 is on domain 'b'), you need to explicitly pass the session across in the query string. Even them I'm not sure it will work for security reasons. -- Postgresql & php tutorials http://www.designmagick.com/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] problems with sessions variables and virtual domains in apache
On Thursday 18 January 2007 06:26 pm, esteban wrote: > I have a windows 2000 server with apache 2.0 and php 5.1.2. I use session > variables to validate users, each page have something like this: > > if($_SESSION["validated"]==0){ > header("Location: index.php"); > exit; > } > > This worked fine when i had only one domain, but when i began to use > virtual domains, sometimes, not always, the session variable lost the value > or the session variable is distroyed, i don't know what really happens. I > add this lines to httpd.conf for each domain and the main domain is first: > > > ServerAdmin [EMAIL PROTECTED] > DocumentRoot "C:/Program Files/Apache Group/Apache2/htdocs/domain" > ServerName www.domain.com > ErrorLog logs/domain.com-error_log > CustomLog logs/domain.com-access_log common > php_admin_value upload_tmp_dir "C:/Program Files/Apache > Group/Apache2/htdocs/domain/tmp" > php_admin_value session.save_path "C:/Program Files/Apache > Group/Apache2/htdocs/domain/session" > > > At the beginning i didn't use the two last lines with php_admin_value, i > add the lines for trying to solve the problem but it doesn't work. > > I have an application made with phpmaker and SquierreMail v.1.4.7 too, and > i have the same problem in both. In both case sometimes, when i want to go > to other page, the server ask me for the username and the password, it is > not always. > > Please help me > > Thanks. Following Chris' idea - going from http to https - try this simple technique - works for me: https://your_domain/the_page_you_want_at_https";); exit;} ?> Saves you having to explicitly set the page for https Hth, Andre -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] problems with sessions variables and virtual domains in apache
esteban wrote: I have a windows 2000 server with apache 2.0 and php 5.1.2. I use session variables to validate users, each page have something like this: if($_SESSION["validated"]==0){ header("Location: index.php"); exit; } This worked fine when i had only one domain, but when i began to use virtual domains, sometimes, not always, the session variable lost the value or the session variable is distroyed, i don't know what really happens. I add this lines to httpd.conf for each domain and the main domain is first: ServerAdmin [EMAIL PROTECTED] DocumentRoot "C:/Program Files/Apache Group/Apache2/htdocs/domain" ServerName www.domain.com ErrorLog logs/domain.com-error_log CustomLog logs/domain.com-access_log common php_admin_value upload_tmp_dir "C:/Program Files/Apache Group/Apache2/htdocs/domain/tmp" php_admin_value session.save_path "C:/Program Files/Apache Group/Apache2/htdocs/domain/session" At the beginning i didn't use the two last lines with php_admin_value, i add the lines for trying to solve the problem but it doesn't work. I have an application made with phpmaker and SquierreMail v.1.4.7 too, and i have the same problem in both. In both case sometimes, when i want to go to other page, the server ask me for the username and the password, it is not always. If you are going across domains (page 1 is on domain 'a' and page 2 is on domain 'b'), you need to explicitly pass the session across in the query string. Even them I'm not sure it will work for security reasons. -- Postgresql & php tutorials http://www.designmagick.com/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] problems with sessions variables and virtual domains in apache
I have a windows 2000 server with apache 2.0 and php 5.1.2. I use session variables to validate users, each page have something like this: if($_SESSION["validated"]==0){ header("Location: index.php"); exit; } This worked fine when i had only one domain, but when i began to use virtual domains, sometimes, not always, the session variable lost the value or the session variable is distroyed, i don't know what really happens. I add this lines to httpd.conf for each domain and the main domain is first: ServerAdmin [EMAIL PROTECTED] DocumentRoot "C:/Program Files/Apache Group/Apache2/htdocs/domain" ServerName www.domain.com ErrorLog logs/domain.com-error_log CustomLog logs/domain.com-access_log common php_admin_value upload_tmp_dir "C:/Program Files/Apache Group/Apache2/htdocs/domain/tmp" php_admin_value session.save_path "C:/Program Files/Apache Group/Apache2/htdocs/domain/session" At the beginning i didn't use the two last lines with php_admin_value, i add the lines for trying to solve the problem but it doesn't work. I have an application made with phpmaker and SquierreMail v.1.4.7 too, and i have the same problem in both. In both case sometimes, when i want to go to other page, the server ask me for the username and the password, it is not always. Please help me Thanks. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Problems with sessions .. qualified/non-qualified domain names
I have diagnosed a problem with sessions I am having. I'm don't believe it's necessarily a PHP problem, but I thought someone must have seen this before. The first thing I do is a session_start() and then determine if (using session variables) whether the user has logged in successfully using a password and their session has not timed out (to some value I keep track of, not the php.ini variables). Anyway, if I come in to my site using a fully qualified domain name such as http://mysubsite.mycompany.com/index.php and start a session and then have the user log in, I then pass them along to: http://mysubsite/index.php internal to my organization (using the non-qualified domain name). But this starts a different session than the one they came in as, so this user now has two different sessions, the one that determined they needed to log in on (using the fully qualified domain name) and the second session that was started after they logged in (using the non-qualified name). I see this problem when you set your default browser 'home' page to be http://mysubsite.mycompany.com/index.php and attempt to use that. Every time you click on that (after you've logged in initially and haven't timed out) you go immediately to a login window since that session is still around and was never logged in. If my default browser home page is: http://mysubsite/index.php you then get into the session that was started after you log in. The reason I think this issue must have come up for someone before is that almost all of my users should be able to use http://mysubsite/index.php BUT if you're coming in (from home for example), you need to come in as http://mysubsite.mycompany.com/index.php for it to find my site. Is there some way for a session to be registered to both? mysubsite.mycompany.com (using the fully qualified domain name) AND mysubsite (using the non-fully qualified domain name) Thanks, Bruce -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] problems with sessions!!AAH
"Angelo Zanetti" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Hi Matt, > > The session_id() is correct on both pages. Some info I forgot to add is > this: > > on my first page: > > session_write_close(); > header("Location: franchise_menu.php?".SID); > exit(); > > however on my franchise_menu.php page, no SID is displayed in the > browser address. could that be a reason? Or have i misconfigured > something? Hi Angelo, your code looks right but you should see the session id in the address bar after the redirect. Does echo SID produce any output? By the way, I don't think you need to call session_write_close(). Torsten -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] problems with sessions!!AAH
> session_write_close(); > header("Location: franchise_menu.php?".SID); > exit(); SID will be empty if session ID was set in an appropriate session cookie if you do a print_r($_SESSION) on franchise_menu.php do you see anything? If you have access to the webserver you could just go in and look at the session file that php creates. It is pretty easy to find and you should be able to see your variables if they are being correctly written to the file. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] problems with sessions!!AAH
no I'm not using cookies. Session configuration values from php.ini: session.save_handler = files session.save_path = c:\temp\sessions session.use_cookies = 0 session.name = PHPSESSID session.auto_start = 0 session.cookie_lifetime = 0 session.cookie_path = / session.cookie_domain = session.serialize_handler = php session.gc_probability = 1 session.gc_divisor = 100 session.gc_maxlifetime = 1440 session.bug_compat_42 = 1 session.bug_compat_warn = 1 session.referer_check = session.entropy_length = 0 session.entropy_file = session.cache_limiter = nocache session.cache_expire = 180 is there anything else that I am missing or is anything set incorrectly? thanks guys, really appreciate it. >>> "Torsten Roehr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 8/16/2004 6:00:01 PM >>> "Angelo Zanetti" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > ok I thought the problem was fixed but its not. The session variable > gets registered correctly however when I go to the next page and too see > if its still registered using the isset() function its not registered > anymore. I do have session_start(); at the top of the new page. > > I cant think why its not working?!?! Are you using cookies? What are your session configuration values? Regards, Torsten > > TIA > > >>> "Jay Blanchard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 8/16/2004 > 4:46:16 PM >>> > [snip] > Ok here is what I do: > > $_SESSION['login']="true"; > > if (session_is_registered($_SESSION['login'])) > echo("seesion is reg"); > else > echo("seesion not reg"); > > I have not used the session_register function as the manual says the > following: > [/snip] > > Have you set session_start? http://www.php.net/session_start > > -- > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > > Disclaimer > This e-mail transmission contains confidential information, > which is the property of the sender. > The information in this e-mail or attachments thereto is > intended for the attention and use only of the addressee. > Should you have received this e-mail in error, please delete > and destroy it and any attachments thereto immediately. > Under no circumstances will the Cape Technikon or the sender > of this e-mail be liable to any party for any direct, indirect, > special or other consequential damages for any use of this e-mail. > For the detailed e-mail disclaimer please refer to > http://www.ctech.ac.za/polic or call +27 (0)21 460 3911 -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php Disclaimer This e-mail transmission contains confidential information, which is the property of the sender. The information in this e-mail or attachments thereto is intended for the attention and use only of the addressee. Should you have received this e-mail in error, please delete and destroy it and any attachments thereto immediately. Under no circumstances will the Cape Technikon or the sender of this e-mail be liable to any party for any direct, indirect, special or other consequential damages for any use of this e-mail. For the detailed e-mail disclaimer please refer to http://www.ctech.ac.za/polic or call +27 (0)21 460 3911 -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] problems with sessions!!AAH
Hi Matt, The session_id() is correct on both pages. Some info I forgot to add is this: on my first page: session_write_close(); header("Location: franchise_menu.php?".SID); exit(); however on my franchise_menu.php page, no SID is displayed in the browser address. could that be a reason? Or have i misconfigured something? TIA >>> "Matt M." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 8/16/2004 5:59:26 PM >>> On Mon, 16 Aug 2004 17:39:21 +0200, Angelo Zanetti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ok I thought the problem was fixed but its not. The session variable > gets registered correctly however when I go to the next page and too see > if its still registered using the isset() function its not registered > anymore. I do have session_start(); at the top of the new page. > > I cant think why its not working?!?! make sure that the session cookie is being set. check the session_id() on both pages, make sure they are the same. If they arent, you are having a problem getting the sid passed from page to page. Disclaimer This e-mail transmission contains confidential information, which is the property of the sender. The information in this e-mail or attachments thereto is intended for the attention and use only of the addressee. Should you have received this e-mail in error, please delete and destroy it and any attachments thereto immediately. Under no circumstances will the Cape Technikon or the sender of this e-mail be liable to any party for any direct, indirect, special or other consequential damages for any use of this e-mail. For the detailed e-mail disclaimer please refer to http://www.ctech.ac.za/polic or call +27 (0)21 460 3911 -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] problems with sessions!!AAH
On Mon, 16 Aug 2004 17:39:21 +0200, Angelo Zanetti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ok I thought the problem was fixed but its not. The session variable > gets registered correctly however when I go to the next page and too see > if its still registered using the isset() function its not registered > anymore. I do have session_start(); at the top of the new page. > > I cant think why its not working?!?! make sure that the session cookie is being set. check the session_id() on both pages, make sure they are the same. If they arent, you are having a problem getting the sid passed from page to page. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] problems with sessions!!AAH
"Angelo Zanetti" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > ok I thought the problem was fixed but its not. The session variable > gets registered correctly however when I go to the next page and too see > if its still registered using the isset() function its not registered > anymore. I do have session_start(); at the top of the new page. > > I cant think why its not working?!?! Are you using cookies? What are your session configuration values? Regards, Torsten > > TIA > > >>> "Jay Blanchard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 8/16/2004 > 4:46:16 PM >>> > [snip] > Ok here is what I do: > > $_SESSION['login']="true"; > > if (session_is_registered($_SESSION['login'])) > echo("seesion is reg"); > else > echo("seesion not reg"); > > I have not used the session_register function as the manual says the > following: > [/snip] > > Have you set session_start? http://www.php.net/session_start > > -- > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > > Disclaimer > This e-mail transmission contains confidential information, > which is the property of the sender. > The information in this e-mail or attachments thereto is > intended for the attention and use only of the addressee. > Should you have received this e-mail in error, please delete > and destroy it and any attachments thereto immediately. > Under no circumstances will the Cape Technikon or the sender > of this e-mail be liable to any party for any direct, indirect, > special or other consequential damages for any use of this e-mail. > For the detailed e-mail disclaimer please refer to > http://www.ctech.ac.za/polic or call +27 (0)21 460 3911 -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] problems with sessions!!AAH
ok I thought the problem was fixed but its not. The session variable gets registered correctly however when I go to the next page and too see if its still registered using the isset() function its not registered anymore. I do have session_start(); at the top of the new page. I cant think why its not working?!?! TIA >>> "Jay Blanchard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 8/16/2004 4:46:16 PM >>> [snip] Ok here is what I do: $_SESSION['login']="true"; if (session_is_registered($_SESSION['login'])) echo("seesion is reg"); else echo("seesion not reg"); I have not used the session_register function as the manual says the following: [/snip] Have you set session_start? http://www.php.net/session_start -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php Disclaimer This e-mail transmission contains confidential information, which is the property of the sender. The information in this e-mail or attachments thereto is intended for the attention and use only of the addressee. Should you have received this e-mail in error, please delete and destroy it and any attachments thereto immediately. Under no circumstances will the Cape Technikon or the sender of this e-mail be liable to any party for any direct, indirect, special or other consequential damages for any use of this e-mail. For the detailed e-mail disclaimer please refer to http://www.ctech.ac.za/polic or call +27 (0)21 460 3911 -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] problems with sessions!!SOLVED!!
thanks MATT it appears that the isset function worked! >>> "Jay Blanchard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 8/16/2004 4:46:16 PM >>> [snip] Ok here is what I do: $_SESSION['login']="true"; if (session_is_registered($_SESSION['login'])) echo("seesion is reg"); else echo("seesion not reg"); I have not used the session_register function as the manual says the following: [/snip] Have you set session_start? http://www.php.net/session_start -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php Disclaimer This e-mail transmission contains confidential information, which is the property of the sender. The information in this e-mail or attachments thereto is intended for the attention and use only of the addressee. Should you have received this e-mail in error, please delete and destroy it and any attachments thereto immediately. Under no circumstances will the Cape Technikon or the sender of this e-mail be liable to any party for any direct, indirect, special or other consequential damages for any use of this e-mail. For the detailed e-mail disclaimer please refer to http://www.ctech.ac.za/polic or call +27 (0)21 460 3911 -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] problems with sessions!!AAH
[snip] Ok here is what I do: $_SESSION['login']="true"; if (session_is_registered($_SESSION['login'])) echo("seesion is reg"); else echo("seesion not reg"); I have not used the session_register function as the manual says the following: [/snip] Have you set session_start? http://www.php.net/session_start -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] problems with sessions!!AAH
> if (session_is_registered($_SESSION['login'])) > echo("seesion is reg"); > else > echo("seesion not reg"); try if (isset($_SESSION['login'])) echo("seesion is reg"); else echo("seesion not reg"); -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] problems with sessions!!AAH
Hi, Im running a win2k with apache and PHP 4.3.4 and I have gone through the installation readme for PHP. I have copied the necessary files to the correct directories. I have also set register_globals= Off (default) I have set my session path (it exists). Now my problem is that I cant get my sessions to work at all. I have tried everything and no luck. Ok here is what I do: $_SESSION['login']="true"; if (session_is_registered($_SESSION['login'])) echo("seesion is reg"); else echo("seesion not reg"); I have not used the session_register function as the manual says the following: If you want your script to work regardless of register_globals, you need to instead use the $_SESSION array as $_SESSION entries are automatically registered. I seriously dont know what else to try or do. If you think I've missed something then please help. Thanks in advance Disclaimer This e-mail transmission contains confidential information, which is the property of the sender. The information in this e-mail or attachments thereto is intended for the attention and use only of the addressee. Should you have received this e-mail in error, please delete and destroy it and any attachments thereto immediately. Under no circumstances will the Cape Technikon or the sender of this e-mail be liable to any party for any direct, indirect, special or other consequential damages for any use of this e-mail. For the detailed e-mail disclaimer please refer to http://www.ctech.ac.za/polic or call +27 (0)21 460 3911 -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Problems with sessions
I've got an odd problem . . . I've got a PHP site (PHP 4.2.2, Apache 1.3.26, Linux box) that uses sessions to track a user_id for each user. I use the user_id to grant various rights. This works like a dream 95% of the time. But every once in awhile, the session information gets lost. It's so rare that I have only seen it happen once or twice, but my customer, who works on the site all day, sees it 4 or 5 times a day. I added code to send me an email whenever it happens, with some debugging info. The session parameter (called $user_id), just ends up blank (actually, unset) at random times. I've tried to see some pattern, but there doesn't seem to be one. It can happen on any page at any time. It doesn't seem to correlate to times of heavy usage, either. I'm really at a loss for this. Any ideas would be mucho appreciated! -- John -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Problems with sessions
Hello, I have big problem. I upgraded PHP from 4.1.2 to 4.2.3 and my scripts with doesn´t work. Please help me! in php.info register globals=On I have two sripts: first.php second.php In second.php ID is empty; but in previous version of php work it ok?? thanks Tomas Kubis -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] problems with sessions (not working)
I have a file called miec.php that does quite a lot of processing and then include()s user_track.inc.php... miec.php: user_track.inc.php: -- the problem is why does it NEVER go into the 'else'... it seems that the session is registered... but as soon as I refresh the page the session is lost... why? _ . Christian Dechery . . Gaita-L Owner / Web Developer . . http://www.webstyle.com.br . . http://www.tanamesa.com.br -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[PHP] Problems with Sessions?
When I first browse to a site on my LAN, I get links with URLs that look like this: chat/?PHPSESSID=f3d149f79f5196bd709fb3c256dbb3d8 after a refresh, the whoe PHPSESSID goes away. Wondered if there was some setting in php.ini that I've overlooked? I'm running PHP4 with Apache on an Unstable Debian box. Any help would be appreciated :-) -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[PHP] problems with sessions login/logout and frames
Hi there! I'm happy the mailing lisi is finally activated :) Well guys, i've spent bad time using sessions with frames : i have a website that dislpays some tour products, and i have four frames in most of the pages! i have a logon button in the top frame where once clicked it asks for the login and password then resistered a variable session and set it to true then reload the whole page and activates the tarifs which where invisible in the not logged version! then when i logout i unregister the logged varaible then reload the whole page! Well i also start session in each page even if it's not registered so as to test whether it's registerd and set to true ! therefore i always have a session even not logged which is wierd! also i stsrt the session in the index file then send the session id to the 4 frames in their urls as test.php?phpsessid=$phpsessid... i also add the "?phpsessid=$phpsessid" to each link in each page/frame! Here are the problems i encounter: 1-a session is always created cause i have to test! 2-with IE nad Netscape i have to clear the temporary files and set history to 0 otherwise it always shows the old page wich was for instance not logged however now i'm logged out ! but it still do me that after surfing a bit cause it remmbers the first pages ! Please help me !these drive me mad ! _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]