Re: [PHP] Spam opinions please

2009-10-23 Thread Ashley Sheridan
On Fri, 2009-10-23 at 08:55 +0100, Peter Ford wrote: > Ashley Sheridan wrote: > > > > > > Won't stop a bot worth it's salt either, hence the need for more complex > > and confusing captchas. The best way to stop spam, is to use linguistic > > testing on the content being offered, which protects

Re: [PHP] Spam opinions please

2009-10-23 Thread Peter Ford
Ashley Sheridan wrote: > > > Won't stop a bot worth it's salt either, hence the need for more complex > and confusing captchas. The best way to stop spam, is to use linguistic > testing on the content being offered, which protects against bot and > human spammer alike. > > Thanks, > Ash > http:/

Re: [PHP] Spam opinions please

2009-10-22 Thread Ashley Sheridan
On Thu, 2009-10-22 at 19:39 -0400, Gary wrote: > I have always thought that by putting some simple, readable ttext into a > graphic (eg.apple) and asking people to type it in a space, that would work, > but that does not stop the humans.. > > Gary > > > "Philip Thompson" wrote in message >

Re: [PHP] Spam opinions please

2009-10-22 Thread Gary
I have always thought that by putting some simple, readable ttext into a graphic (eg.apple) and asking people to type it in a space, that would work, but that does not stop the humans.. Gary "Philip Thompson" wrote in message news:9bf33458-4a91-4a23-bcb8-ebe13269f...@gmail.com... > On Oct 20

Re: [PHP] Spam opinions please

2009-10-22 Thread Philip Thompson
On Oct 20, 2009, at 1:48 PM, Gary wrote: NO I have not, I think my issue is I hate when I run across one, it usually takes me more than one try to actually figure out what the charactor is, so hence my disdain. GAry Here are some captchas: "What's three minus two?" "Which word is listed

Re: [PHP] Spam opinions please

2009-10-21 Thread Ashley Sheridan
On Tue, 2009-10-20 at 23:41 +0200, Kim Madsen wrote: > Gary wrote on 2009-10-20 22:55: > > I like that idea,so in other words they have to get to the form from > > another > > page on the site, and you set a time limit for a minimum amount of time > > they > > spend on the page(5-10 seconds)?

Re: [PHP] Spam opinions please

2009-10-20 Thread Peter van der Does
On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 14:31:53 -0400 "Gary" wrote: > I have several sites that are getting hit with form spam. I have the > script set up to capture the IP address so I know from where they > come. I found a short script that is supposed to stop these IP > addresses from accessing the form page,

Re: [PHP] Spam opinions please

2009-10-20 Thread Kim Madsen
Gary wrote on 2009-10-20 22:55: I like that idea,so in other words they have to get to the form from another page on the site, and you set a time limit for a minimum amount of time they spend on the page(5-10 seconds)? I don't set any time, just the session to prevent direct hits from a spam

Re: [PHP] Spam opinions please

2009-10-20 Thread Gary
I like that idea,so in other words they have to get to the form from another page on the site, and you set a time limit for a minimum amount of time they spend on the page(5-10 seconds)? Gary "Kim Madsen" wrote in message news:4ade206f.6030...@emax.dk... > Hey Gary > > Gary wrote on 2009-10-

Re: [PHP] Spam opinions please

2009-10-20 Thread Gary
I have a honeypot in there already, another reason I think it is human spam and not da bot. Gary "Bastien Koert" wrote in message news:d7b6cab70910201337v5c18284aya022f48e13943...@mail.gmail.com... > On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 4:12 PM, Ashley Sheridan > wrote: >> On Tue, 2009-10-20 at 21:01 +02

Re: [PHP] Spam opinions please

2009-10-20 Thread Kim Madsen
Hey Gary Gary wrote on 2009-10-20 20:31: I have several sites that are getting hit with form spam. I have the script set up to capture the IP address so I know from where they come. I see that a lot suggested CAPTCHA, I don't like those either. The IP solution will give you a constant main

Re: [PHP] Spam opinions please

2009-10-20 Thread Bastien Koert
On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 4:12 PM, Ashley Sheridan wrote: > On Tue, 2009-10-20 at 21:01 +0200, John Black wrote: > >> Gary wrote: >> > I believe they are human spammers as all the input fields are correctly >> > filled out (phone in phone, address in address etc). >> > As I said they are mostly the

Re: [PHP] Spam opinions please

2009-10-20 Thread Ashley Sheridan
On Tue, 2009-10-20 at 21:01 +0200, John Black wrote: > Gary wrote: > > I believe they are human spammers as all the input fields are correctly > > filled out (phone in phone, address in address etc). > > As I said they are mostly the same IP. > > Would it be better to include this script in the p

Re: [PHP] Spam opinions please

2009-10-20 Thread Ashley Sheridan
On Tue, 2009-10-20 at 15:46 -0300, Jonathan Tapicer wrote: > On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 3:39 PM, Ashley Sheridan > wrote: > > > > On Tue, 2009-10-20 at 15:36 -0300, Jonathan Tapicer wrote: > > > > That will work just for one IP, but they could spam you from another > > IP. I suggest you add a good c

RE: [PHP] Spam opinions please

2009-10-20 Thread Yuri Yarlei
PHP, ashita wa Java, sono ato sekai desu. > Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 15:36:04 -0300 > From: tapi...@gmail.com > To: gwp...@ptd.net > CC: php-general@lists.php.net > Subject: Re: [PHP] Spam opinions please > > That will work just for one IP, but they could spam you from anothe

Re: [PHP] Spam opinions please

2009-10-20 Thread John Black
Gary wrote: I believe they are human spammers as all the input fields are correctly filled out (phone in phone, address in address etc). As I said they are mostly the same IP. Would it be better to include this script in the processing script rather than at the top of the page? If it is fixe

Re: [PHP] Spam opinions please

2009-10-20 Thread Gary
I believe they are human spammers as all the input fields are correctly filled out (phone in phone, address in address etc). As I said they are mostly the same IP. Would it be better to include this script in the processing script rather than at the top of the page? Gary "Ashley Sheridan" wr

Re: [PHP] Spam opinions please

2009-10-20 Thread John Black
Jonathan Tapicer wrote: I suggest you add a good captcha to the form and that way you can avoid spam forever. You can find a question/answer based CAPTCHA system here. http://www.network-technologies.org/tiny.php?id=1 The system can be used to protect comment forms, email forms or act as a bo

Re: [PHP] Spam opinions please

2009-10-20 Thread Gary
NO I have not, I think my issue is I hate when I run across one, it usually takes me more than one try to actually figure out what the charactor is, so hence my disdain. GAry "Paul M Foster" wrote in message news:20091020184001.gi3...@quillandmouse.com... > On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 02:31:53P

Re: [PHP] Spam opinions please

2009-10-20 Thread Jonathan Tapicer
On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 3:39 PM, Ashley Sheridan wrote: > > On Tue, 2009-10-20 at 15:36 -0300, Jonathan Tapicer wrote: > > That will work just for one IP, but they could spam you from another > IP. I suggest you add a good captcha to the form and that way you can > avoid spam forever. > > Regards,

Re: [PHP] Spam opinions please

2009-10-20 Thread Ashley Sheridan
On Tue, 2009-10-20 at 15:36 -0300, Jonathan Tapicer wrote: > That will work just for one IP, but they could spam you from another > IP. I suggest you add a good captcha to the form and that way you can > avoid spam forever. > > Regards, > > Jonathan Firstly, in_array() is used in his example,

Re: [PHP] Spam opinions please

2009-10-20 Thread Paul M Foster
On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 02:31:53PM -0400, Gary wrote: > I have several sites that are getting hit with form spam. I have the script > set up to capture the IP address so I know from where they come. I found a > short script that is supposed to stop these IP addresses from accessing the > form pa

Re: [PHP] Spam opinions please

2009-10-20 Thread Gary
Thanks, and I understand, however I am trying to avoid the captcha if possible. They are all or mostly coming from the same IP which is why I thought this would help. Gary "Jonathan Tapicer" wrote in message news:4603e2db0910201136q5e835193he4abbac75ef11...@mail.gmail.com... That will work j

Re: [PHP] Spam opinions please

2009-10-20 Thread Ashley Sheridan
On Tue, 2009-10-20 at 14:31 -0400, Gary wrote: > I have several sites that are getting hit with form spam. I have the script > set up to capture the IP address so I know from where they come. I found a > short script that is supposed to stop these IP addresses from accessing the > form page,

Re: [PHP] Spam opinions please

2009-10-20 Thread Israel Ekpo
On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 2:36 PM, Jonathan Tapicer wrote: > That will work just for one IP, but they could spam you from another > IP. I suggest you add a good captcha to the form and that way you can > avoid spam forever. > > Regards, > > Jonathan > > On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 3:31 PM, Gary wrote:

Re: [PHP] Spam opinions please

2009-10-20 Thread Jonathan Tapicer
That will work just for one IP, but they could spam you from another IP. I suggest you add a good captcha to the form and that way you can avoid spam forever. Regards, Jonathan On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 3:31 PM, Gary wrote: > I have several sites that are getting hit with form spam.  I have the s