Wiki change - 'de' function 'done'

2018-05-26 Thread Arie van Wingerden
Hi all, as earlier announced, I'll try to add stuff that could be useful to others, but at least for me is a way to learn PicoLisp along the way. TL;DR; The few last days I got used to the Wiki syntax Alex created. Being at this point I find it a very easy to use Wiki, that breathes the same min

Re: Understanding spacing in Wiki edit

2018-05-26 Thread Arie van Wingerden
Updated the doc. See how nice and clear the yellow is ;-)) https://picolisp.com/wiki/?pce-de-function 2018-05-26 13:41 GMT+02:00 Arie van Wingerden : > OK :) > > 2018-05-26 13:21 GMT+02:00 Alexander Burger : > >> Hi Arie, >> >> > checked the source

Re: Understanding spacing in Wiki edit

2018-05-26 Thread Arie van Wingerden
OK :) 2018-05-26 13:21 GMT+02:00 Alexander Burger : > Hi Arie, > > > checked the source and *did* find one thing missing :-) > > > > > ("$" # CSS style > > > ( (cons 'style (till "^I^J^M}" T)) > > > (char) > > > (recurse T) ) ) > > Haha, perfect! I did not remember,

Re: Understanding spacing in Wiki edit

2018-05-26 Thread Arie van Wingerden
t! TIA, Arie 2018-05-25 19:48 GMT+02:00 Alexander Burger : > On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 06:35:00PM +0200, Arie van Wingerden wrote: > > Now I am *really* confused ... ;-) Forgive me my ignorance. > > No problem :) > > > > I was talking about the Wiki, not ab

Re: Understanding spacing in Wiki edit

2018-05-25 Thread Arie van Wingerden
about centering, colors etc.) 2018-05-25 18:08 GMT+02:00 Alexander Burger : > On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 05:54:00PM +0200, Arie van Wingerden wrote: > > Solved! > > > > instead of writing: > > > > :{ > > > lines of code > > > ... > > >

Re: Understanding spacing in Wiki edit

2018-05-25 Thread Arie van Wingerden
Solved! instead of writing: :{ > lines of code > ... > ... > } > > New section > I should write: :{ > lines of code > ... > ...} > New section > 2018-05-25 17:01 GMT+02:00 Arie van Wingerden : > Hi Alex, > > think I found out why the spacing w

Re: Understanding spacing in Wiki edit

2018-05-25 Thread Arie van Wingerden
Hi Alex, think I found out why the spacing was different. *Spacing is BIGGER directly after a :{} code section than after a line of text.* So I just put a line of text after the last piece of code before a new "section" (underlined line). Maybe there is a way to change that behavior, because it

Re: Request

2018-05-25 Thread Arie van Wingerden
OK. Maybe it then should be in that readme? 2018-05-25 15:26 GMT+02:00 Alexander Burger : > On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 02:04:02PM +0200, Arie van Wingerden wrote: > > maybe it is useful to reference the Windows WSL installation Wiki page > also > > here: > >https://s

Understanding spacing in Wiki edit

2018-05-25 Thread Arie van Wingerden
Hi Alex, I can't get spacing between lines as I want it. Tried with just empty lines and also with &{n}. I'd like to have exactly one blank line before each underlined line. https://picolisp.com/34809/7667136248745052~?pce-de-function Any idea? (I will update later with latest remarks) Thx,

Request

2018-05-25 Thread Arie van Wingerden
Hi Alex, maybe it is useful to reference the Windows WSL installation Wiki page also here: https://software-lab.de/down.html The link is: https://picolisp.com/wiki/?WSL Thx Arie

Re: Public link to my PicoLisp notes in EvenNote

2018-05-25 Thread Arie van Wingerden
I've rewritten the article, but not yet on the Wiki. I cleaned up a lot of unnecessary markup stuff. I'll post it within this mail.Please comment before I put it up on the Wiki! The de-function -- Reference: https://software-lab.de/doc/refD.html#de ---

Re: Public link to my PicoLisp notes in EvenNote

2018-05-25 Thread Arie van Wingerden
Hi Alex! A bit tedious is that evernote needs JavaScript. I have JS off by default > in Chrome, and use I mostly w3m anyway. > ​Haha! Could have guessed you'd use a more minimalist​ (pico)browser :-) Well, I'll dive deeper into the Wiki then for the better ... > "nil is just a symbol" could we

Public link to my PicoLisp notes in EvenNote

2018-05-25 Thread Arie van Wingerden
Hi all, here is the public link: https://www.evernote.com/pub/hotcore/picolisp There are 2 ways to use it: 1. just use the link in a browser 2. use it in a (free) version of EverNote For now it is easier / faster to use EverNote. Maybe in the future I can transfer stuff to the Wiki. /Arie

Re: Ins and outs of the 'de' function

2018-05-25 Thread Arie van Wingerden
e explanation! ;) > > Kind regards, > Manu > > 2018-05-24 20:00 GMT+02:00 Arie van Wingerden : > >> Hi, >> >> since first contact with PicoLisp I was convinced to it's possibilities, >> the small footprint and the extra's built-in, like GUI and D

Re: Latest (better) way to install PicoLisp on Windows WSL + Question

2018-05-25 Thread Arie van Wingerden
ar on the commandline should do. > > Kind regards. > > > On 20.05.2018 14:44, Arie van Wingerden wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> as I had to fight the first time to get WSL and PicoLisp working, I >> now just overlooked the easy way ;-) >> >> The

Ins and outs of the 'de' function

2018-05-24 Thread Arie van Wingerden
Hi, since first contact with PicoLisp I was convinced to it's possibilities, the small footprint and the extra's built-in, like GUI and DB. Since I've got some spare time, I am now trying to get a better grasp on things. Yesterday I already posted about some trial and error. Today, I tried to ap

Re: Aha moment :-)

2018-05-23 Thread Arie van Wingerden
Yes, that helps! So, PicoLisp is definitely "a Lisp" but differs a lot from the others as well. That's fine, if it is better also ... 😁 Thx! 2018-05-23 15:21 GMT+02:00 Alexander Burger : > Hi Arie, > > > Playing around I got this surprise: > > I wanted to set variable x to value '(1 2 3 4): > > 1

Aha moment :-)

2018-05-23 Thread Arie van Wingerden
Playing around I got this surprise: I wanted to set variable x to value '(1 2 3 4): 1. first try (without RTFM): : (set! x '(1 2 3 4)) !? (lock (or Obj *DB)) Bad DB file Obviously PicoLisp is different from most Schemes :-) 2. second try (superficially RTFM) : (de x '(1 2 3 4))

Re: Wiki

2018-05-20 Thread Arie van Wingerden
Hi Joe, yes, I'll do that. Thx Arie Op zo 20 mei 2018 20:32 schreef Joe Bogner : > Hi Arie - Thanks for the contribution and good suggestion on removing the > flinux page. Can you do that for me? > > On Sun, May 20, 2018, 10:56 AM Arie van Wingerden > wrote: > &g

Wiki

2018-05-20 Thread Arie van Wingerden
Hi, Just added a Wiki page about new WSL install for Windows 10, which is linked from the main page. Maybe the maintainer of the Flinux page should remove that, because it seems invalid at the moment. BTW a very nice Wiki Alex!! Thx, Arie

Re: Latest (better) way to install PicoLisp on Windows WSL + Question

2018-05-20 Thread Arie van Wingerden
n WSL (found a lot of issues on the web as well); maybe not yet ready for use - question about /usr/lib vs. /usr/local/lib remains Maybe this could put on the Wiki (and replace the Flinux thing, which appears to be broken). Is Alex the maintainer, or also a community thing to do this? TIA, Arie 2018-05-

Re: Latest (better) way to install PicoLisp on Windows WSL + Question

2018-05-20 Thread Arie van Wingerden
As a follow-up I attach the output of env command. 2018-05-20 12:42 GMT+02:00 Arie van Wingerden : > Hi, > > as I found out that (already) the way WSL (Windows Subsystem for Linux) > works has changed in a big way, I needed to update things a bit. This > applies to Windows 10 wi

Latest (better) way to install PicoLisp on Windows WSL + Question

2018-05-20 Thread Arie van Wingerden
Hi, as I found out that (already) the way WSL (Windows Subsystem for Linux) works has changed in a big way, I needed to update things a bit. This applies to Windows 10 with latest April 2018 update. If you did the installation the old way, you should: - remove the Linux subsystem (PowerShell as a

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2018-05-20 Thread Arie van Wingerden
Could not leave PicoLisp alone. I *have* to dig in.

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2018-04-26 Thread Arie van Wingerden
Hi all, After dabbling in PicoLisp in Windows I decided that it was a bit too much of a hassle (because of Windows). Switching to Linux is currently not an option for me. PicoLisp itself is a very good, non bloated language with fenomenal potential! I really hope there will be binary native Wind

Re: [SOLVED]: PilBox IOException "No such file"

2018-04-20 Thread Arie van Wingerden
Hi Alex, ah, so after all it *was* a 32/64 bit issue. Still very strange in these days to put a 32bit OS on a 64bit phone ... Glad you cracked it. In the mean time I succesfully installed pilbox on: - Asus tablet - Oukitel U11 Plus smartphone Now going to try it out. Haven't had time to play yet

Re: PilBox IOException "No such file"

2018-04-18 Thread Arie van Wingerden
It might have to do with a change in Android 7: https://developer.android.com/about/versions/nougat/android-7.0-changes.html read paragraph: File system permission changes 2018-04-18 17:20 GMT+02:00 Alexander Burger : > On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 05:07:35PM +0200, Richard Z wrote: > > maybe the

Re: PilBox IOException "No such file"

2018-04-18 Thread Arie van Wingerden
appreciate to hear about your further findings :-) 2018-04-18 16:43 GMT+02:00 Arie van Wingerden : > Yes, indeed. Sigh :-( > > I just checked that both CPU and GPU of that device are both 64 bit. > Is it possible they somehow use a 32 bit version op PILBOX? > > I searched in Goog

Re: PilBox IOException "No such file"

2018-04-18 Thread Arie van Wingerden
2:00 Alexander Burger : > On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 04:19:16PM +0200, Arie van Wingerden wrote: > > Maybe there is restricted access higher up in the path? > > But it is the app's home directory (in Android each app is its own user). > And it works on all other devices. >

Similar error on Android

2018-04-18 Thread Arie van Wingerden
Found similar error here: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/49660145/error-2-no-such-file-or-directory-when-hosting-an-executable-within-android-a Alas, no solution, but maybe triggers some insight ...

32 vs 64 bit ???

2018-04-18 Thread Arie van Wingerden
https://askubuntu.com/questions/133389/no-such-file-or-directory-but-the-file-exists

Re: PilBox IOException "No such file"

2018-04-18 Thread Arie van Wingerden
Maybe there is restricted access higher up in the path? 2018-04-18 16:09 GMT+02:00 Alexander Burger : > Hi Arie, > > > trying to help you out ... > > Good :) > > > > https://stackoverflow.com/questions/47726155/java-io- > ioexception-cannot-run-program-adb-exe-createprocess-error-5-access-is > >

Re: PilBox IOException "No such file"

2018-04-18 Thread Arie van Wingerden
? /Arie 2018-04-18 15:01 GMT+02:00 Alexander Burger : > On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 02:48:21PM +0200, Arie van Wingerden wrote: > > Is that device rooted maybe? In that case other rogue Apps might > interfere > > I don't think so. They bought several Xcover devices for their us

Re: PilBox IOException "No such file"

2018-04-18 Thread Arie van Wingerden
Is that device rooted maybe? In that case other rogue Apps might interfere .. Checked device for viruses/malware? 2018-04-18 14:30 GMT+02:00 Alexander Burger : > Hi all, > > Anyone here who tried PilBox: > > I have a customer with Samsung Xcover 4 devices, and they get an > IOException > 'Cannot

Re: Question about tutorial ...

2018-04-18 Thread Arie van Wingerden
ts > WSL is at least 6 months old - so maybe it was fixed in WSL since then or > possibly something fixed/changed by following your instructions. Thanks, > I'll do some additional testing later > > On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 6:23 AM, Arie van Wingerden > wrote: > >> Hi A

Re: Question about tutorial ...

2018-04-18 Thread Arie van Wingerden
Hi Alex, 1) root mode was because I tried a lot of different things, but missed the obvious family64.tgz 😡 2) had a few problems with cd-ing into folders, because under Windows it is a bit different So, after unpacking family64.tgz into a local folder in my home dir everything works great! Now s

Question about tutorial ...

2018-04-18 Thread Arie van Wingerden
Hi, tried this: *​ root@HP-Arie:/usr/share/doc/picolisp/doc# *​ *pil @lib/http.l --server 8080 @doc/hello.l -wait* works OK! Can use the GUI from within standard Windows in browser. But this: * root@HP-Arie:/usr/share/doc/picolisp/doc# **pil family.l -main -go +* fails with: *!? (pool "fami

Re: Success at last!

2018-04-17 Thread Arie van Wingerden
Hi David, I did attach in a later post, but as a courtesy, here it is :-) /Arie 2018-04-17 17:52 GMT+02:00 Loyall, David : > FYI, Arie, I didn't receive any attachment with your email. > > > From: Arie van Wingerden > > Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2018 10:02 AM >

Re: PicoLisp on Windows WSL first tryout fails ...

2018-04-17 Thread Arie van Wingerden
Hi Alexander, just posted my success story :-) I just downloaded the latest PicoLisp deb package and tried to install with dpkg. It failed, because it missed libssl1.1. After quite a bit of searching I thought I had to upgrade Linux (apt-get upgrade). So, I did that, because it wouldn't hurt any

Now WITH attachment

2018-04-17 Thread Arie van Wingerden
Install PicoLisp on Windows 10 NOTE: - PSA = PowerShell as Administrator (right-click Windows | PowerShell (admin) - BSH = bash shell (Windows+r | bash | OK) Install and enable WSL: 1. PSA: Enable-WindowsOptionalFeature -Online -FeatureName Microsoft-Windows-Subsystem-Linux 2. reboot 3.

Success at last!

2018-04-17 Thread Arie van Wingerden
Hi all, after quite a lot of arm wrestling with Linux I got PicoLisp version 18.2.17 to work! Attached a document with what I did. Hope that might help others as well! Thx! /Arie

Re: PicoLisp on Windows WSL first tryout fails ...

2018-04-17 Thread Arie van Wingerden
​Hi Joe, going the Vagrant way will be difficult. On this (older HP) PC I've tried many times to get Linux to run in e.g. VirtualBox and also VMWare. To date I can't get it to work. In the past I ran Linux quite a few times under VirtualBox and VMWare on other computers. Maybe it has to do with th

Re: PicoLisp on Windows WSL first tryout fails ...

2018-04-17 Thread Arie van Wingerden
Hi Philip, just copied all stuff from bin to /usr/bin/picolisp and then tried to run pil. But same error shows up. So I guess I'll have to wait a bit for the PicoLisp guru's ;-) Thx anyway. Apperciate it! /Arie 2018-04-17 13:01 GMT+02:00 Philipp Geyer : > Hi Arie, > > pil is just a wrapper aro

Last mail in this row :-)

2018-04-17 Thread Arie van Wingerden
Hi, my Windows system specs are: Windows 10 Pro 64 bit Version 1709 Build 16299.371 CPU Intel Core-I5 2500 I need some advice for what the best PicoLisp version I should compile and the steps required. I guess now that the "bad executable" has something to do with the way I compiled ...? Bad arc

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2018-04-17 Thread Arie van Wingerden
Also: arie@HP-Arie:/mnt/e/_utils_/src/picolisp/picolisp_install/picoLisp/bin$ /picolisp -bash: ./picolisp: cannot execute binary file: Exec format error

PicoLisp on Windows WSL first tryout fails ...

2018-04-17 Thread Arie van Wingerden
Hi, I did 2 things: 1) installed WSL and PicoLisp succesful 2) created doceumentation of how to do that Building went OK; no errors. However, I cannot run pil itself; see terminal output here: arie@HP-Arie:/mnt/e/_utils_/src/picolisp/picolisp_install/picoLisp/bin$ ls -al total 292 drwxrwxrwx 0 r

Re: PicoLisp on Windows

2018-04-17 Thread Arie van Wingerden
eck out the > tutorial.​ > But on this page: http://www.picolisp.com/wiki/?flinuxpicolisp it says: > >- patch the Makefile > > >- patch tab.c > > >- (optional) patch net.c​ > > Do I need those patches even when using WSL??? /Arie 2018-04-16 18:33 G

Re: PicoLisp on Windows

2018-04-16 Thread Arie van Wingerden
Hi Joe, ok. I'll try WSL then. Will let know about my findings. Maybe others can profit as well (Philip?) Thx /Arie Op ma 16 apr. 2018 18:10 schreef Joe Bogner : > Hi Arie, > > I would like to send a more detailed reply later. I'm the author of the > flinux writeup. It's been a few years and th

PicoLisp on Windows

2018-04-16 Thread Arie van Wingerden
Hi all, for quite a while I'd like to get into PicoLisp. I dabbled in newLisp, but PicoLisp seems to offer quite a few advantages: database, GUI (independent of Java). Being on Windows appears to be not an advantage :( Scenario 1: Windows 10 Linux sub system Q1: Would it be possible to use

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