Re: Processing SMS in PicoLisp
Henrik Sarvell writes: Hi Henrik, > I once coded a gateway that could handle tens of thousands of messages > / sec. > > We used C++ and PostgreSQL, would've been nicer with PL though :-) > > http://www.prodevtips.com/2007/10/15/sms-gateway-how-to/ > > If you want to avoid the cost of a middleman like mosms. that would definitely be overkill for my needs - I would want to deal only with processing an storing the SMS content with PicoLisp, and leave all the rest to a specialised company. -- cheers, Thorsten -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe
Re: Processing SMS in PicoLisp
I once coded a gateway that could handle tens of thousands of messages / sec. We used C++ and PostgreSQL, would've been nicer with PL though :-) http://www.prodevtips.com/2007/10/15/sms-gateway-how-to/ If you want to avoid the cost of a middleman like mosms. On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 2:21 PM, Thorsten Jolitz wrote: > Jakob Eriksson writes: > > > http://mosms.se/ does this in Sweden. They let you avoid the hassle of > > having > > to deal with different telecoms companies. (Since your customers > > likely have > > subscriptions with different providers.) > > > > I am sure there are many companies such as Mosms in other countries as > > well. > > exactly what I'm looking, have to find a company like this in Germany. > > -- > cheers, > Thorsten > > -- > UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe >
Re: Processing SMS in PicoLisp
Jakob Eriksson writes: > http://mosms.se/ does this in Sweden. They let you avoid the hassle of > having > to deal with different telecoms companies. (Since your customers > likely have > subscriptions with different providers.) > > I am sure there are many companies such as Mosms in other countries as > well. exactly what I'm looking, have to find a company like this in Germany. -- cheers, Thorsten -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe
Re: Processing SMS in PicoLisp
On August 17, 2012 at 1:39 PM Thorsten Jolitz wrote: > As I wrote - the optimal solution would be no costs on my side, but > rather a telecom company that charges higher prices per SMS in my name > and shares profit with me. http://mosms.se/ does this in Sweden. They let you avoid the hassle of having to deal with different telecoms companies. (Since your customers likely have subscriptions with different providers.) I am sure there are many companies such as Mosms in other countries as well. best regards, Jakob -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe
Re: Processing SMS in PicoLisp
Jakob Eriksson writes: > On August 17, 2012 at 11:47 AM Thorsten Jolitz > wrote: > >> >> Hi List, >> >> just one curiosity - how would one write a PicoLisp application that >> recieves and processes (and maybe sends) SMS messages? > > > It depends on where from you want to send and receive SMS. There are > several > SMS > gateway companies, each with their own API. You can also talk the > stuff that > telecoms companies talk to each other, but almost certainly you can't > do that. Until now I had not much interest in this stuff, but I know that some not so smart fraudsters try to make people call their SMS numbers only to charge them 3 times the normal price - all in cooperation with the telecom company. In my case it wouldn't be fraud but a paid for service, but technically this would be a nice option: have the telecom company charge 40c instead of 20c per sms, and once a month or so they send me my share of the money - no hassle with billings and payments on my side. But maybe this is in another league - only for the big players. > You can talk to a phone as a GSM modem, but that is oldschool and involved > either serial cable, serial over USB, or Bluetooth. > If you have an Android phone, you could talk to an Android app, or it > to a web > service, or whatever. You need to think about what this should cost you or > how many SMS you expect to send and receive per month, and then you > can start > looking for a solution. The basic idea is to recieve one SMS per day from each customer with some data to be extracted from the message and stored and processed in the PicoLisp app/db. Sending reply messages is optional - the feedback could be given via a website. As I wrote - the optimal solution would be no costs on my side, but rather a telecom company that charges higher prices per SMS in my name and shares profit with me. -- cheers, Thorsten -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe
Re: Processing SMS in PicoLisp
Joe Bogner writes: Hi Joe, > I would recommend using a third party service. > > I've tinkered with Twillio but not used it in production. For example, > with Twillio your code makes a HTTP request to their API endpoint and > their API can post to your HTTP endpoint. http://www.twilio.com/. > Twillio is not free. In the US it's 1 cent per text > inbound/outbound. http://www.twilio.com/sms/api Another very interesting link, although it seems "only" for the US (quite a big market though). > For free (in the US) you may be able to use Google Voice. I'm not sure > if it's against their terms of service - probably is - for any heavy > use. http://www.googlevoice.org/pages.php?title=sniffing most likely a nice free solution, but - as you say - there is always the terms of service problem. > It also looks like Amazon has something similar to Twillio > - http://aws.amazon.com/sns/ its still beta, but looks really nice. Thanks for the tips > On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 6:03 AM, dexen deVries > wrote: > > Hi Thorsten, > > > > On Friday 17 of August 2012 11:47:55 you wrote: > > just one curiosity - how would one write a PicoLisp application > that > > recieves and processes (and maybe sends) SMS messages? > > > > What would be involved to give the application a 'phone number' > (or > > maybe many) so that messages can be send to and from it? > > > > Anybody with experiences in SMS processing? Is that like email > > processing with standard header and body etc? > > > > What if the application is a service and each incoming SMS > should be > > charged by me (e.g. 20cent extra cost billed by me, additionally > to the > > basic SMS costs of the telephone provider)? > > > > Not really so PicoLisp specific, but maybe somebody has some > experience > > in this field and doesn't mind to share it. > > > > recently my company has been handed an offer by Plus (polish GSM > operator, > related to Vodafone) for SMS service. They provide you with access > to a server > (via https and SOAP available) and with one GSM number and other > assorted > goodies, like dynamic text substitution facility. > > Pricing is similar to consumer SMSes. You pay monthly subscription > (comparable > to consumer subscriptions), which includes a couple hundred or > thousand SMS > > Albeit I am unsure if `free SMS' (with costs covered by receiver > than sender) > is available with this service. > > Seems like a little-hassle, no-strings-attached way to me. No need > to fiddle > with actual GSM hardware. > > > -- > dexen deVries > > [[[↓][→]]] > -- > UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subjectUnsubscribe > > > -- cheers, Thorsten -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe
Re: Processing SMS in PicoLisp
dexen deVries writes: Hi Dexen, > On Friday 17 of August 2012 11:47:55 you wrote: >> just one curiosity - how would one write a PicoLisp application that >> recieves and processes (and maybe sends) SMS messages? >> >> What would be involved to give the application a 'phone number' (or >> maybe many) so that messages can be send to and from it? >> >> Anybody with experiences in SMS processing? Is that like email >> processing with standard header and body etc? >> >> What if the application is a service and each incoming SMS should be >> charged by me (e.g. 20cent extra cost billed by me, additionally to the >> basic SMS costs of the telephone provider)? >> >> Not really so PicoLisp specific, but maybe somebody has some experience >> in this field and doesn't mind to share it. > > > recently my company has been handed an offer by Plus (polish GSM operator, > related to Vodafone) for SMS service. They provide you with access to > a server > (via https and SOAP available) and with one GSM number and other assorted > goodies, like dynamic text substitution facility. > > Pricing is similar to consumer SMSes. You pay monthly subscription > (comparable > to consumer subscriptions), which includes a couple hundred or > thousand SMS. that sounds interesting, since my idea involves only 1 sms/day per customer, so at least in the beginning this might suffice. > Albeit I am unsure if `free SMS' (with costs covered by receiver than > sender) > is available with this service. Actually, I would like the GMS company to charge the customer who sends an SMS to the application - their basic rate, plus my extry charges. Trying to avoid any billing with the individual customers, just with the provider of the GMS service. > Seems like a little-hassle, no-strings-attached way to me. No need to > fiddle > with actual GSM hardware. I'm just collecting information right now, since I never dealt with this topic. Thanks for your tips. -- cheers, Thorsten -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe
Re: Processing SMS in PicoLisp
On August 17, 2012 at 11:47 AM Thorsten Jolitz wrote: > > Hi List, > > just one curiosity - how would one write a PicoLisp application that > recieves and processes (and maybe sends) SMS messages? It depends on where from you want to send and receive SMS. There are several SMS gateway companies, each with their own API. You can also talk the stuff that telecoms companies talk to each other, but almost certainly you can't do that. You can talk to a phone as a GSM modem, but that is oldschool and involved either serial cable, serial over USB, or Bluetooth. If you have an Android phone, you could talk to an Android app, or it to a web service, or whatever. You need to think about what this should cost you or how many SMS you expect to send and receive per month, and then you can start looking for a solution. best regards, Jakob -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe
Re: Processing SMS in PicoLisp
Hi Thorsten, On Friday 17 of August 2012 11:47:55 you wrote: > just one curiosity - how would one write a PicoLisp application that > recieves and processes (and maybe sends) SMS messages? > > What would be involved to give the application a 'phone number' (or > maybe many) so that messages can be send to and from it? > > Anybody with experiences in SMS processing? Is that like email > processing with standard header and body etc? > > What if the application is a service and each incoming SMS should be > charged by me (e.g. 20cent extra cost billed by me, additionally to the > basic SMS costs of the telephone provider)? > > Not really so PicoLisp specific, but maybe somebody has some experience > in this field and doesn't mind to share it. recently my company has been handed an offer by Plus (polish GSM operator, related to Vodafone) for SMS service. They provide you with access to a server (via https and SOAP available) and with one GSM number and other assorted goodies, like dynamic text substitution facility. Pricing is similar to consumer SMSes. You pay monthly subscription (comparable to consumer subscriptions), which includes a couple hundred or thousand SMS. Albeit I am unsure if `free SMS' (with costs covered by receiver than sender) is available with this service. Seems like a little-hassle, no-strings-attached way to me. No need to fiddle with actual GSM hardware. -- dexen deVries [[[↓][→]]] -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe
Processing SMS in PicoLisp
Hi List, just one curiosity - how would one write a PicoLisp application that recieves and processes (and maybe sends) SMS messages? What would be involved to give the application a 'phone number' (or maybe many) so that messages can be send to and from it? Anybody with experiences in SMS processing? Is that like email processing with standard header and body etc? What if the application is a service and each incoming SMS should be charged by me (e.g. 20cent extra cost billed by me, additionally to the basic SMS costs of the telephone provider)? Not really so PicoLisp specific, but maybe somebody has some experience in this field and doesn't mind to share it. -- cheers, Thorsten -- UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe
