P.S. A QUESTION:
About Margaret CHIU : I received your card with a TAIPEH (Taiwan) address on
it but on the list on rahji.com site, the address is at CAMBRIDGE ,MA,
USA...
Which address I must send my card ??
Hey Jean,
Margaret goes to the Massachusetts College of Art with me and I
About a month ago, I asked if we were going to do it again, but nobody
seemed interested. Regarding the new swap, I think that the limited time
betwen now and the holidays would discourage participation, so maybe the
suggested final mailing date should be bumped to the end of january.
John
I use Guillermo's method. It's a lot easier than it sounds. :)
From: G.Penate pen...@rogers.com
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Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 19:34:30 -0400
To: pinhole-discussion@p at ???
Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] pinhole size
- Original Message
hi,
you're looking for information on a camera obscura. basically, all you
need to do is cover all the windows so it's as dark as you can get it
(contractor bags from home depot worked well for me), then cut a
nickel-sized (US nickel, that is :) hole in one of them. that's it. if the
hole is
There are a few exposure calculators here...
http://www.rahji.com/exposure.php3
let me know if you see any errors in the text as well.
thanks,
rob
Is it possible that the cover's leaking? I've had to put black tape around
the cap everytime I load my metal can cameras or I sometimes get a fogged
negative. If you're worried about the paint, you can steel wool the metal
so the paint sticks better then paint it with Krylon Ultra-Flat. I've
If you're worried about safety, I'd just cut the holes before the students
get there. A Dremel might work, maybe a drill with a forstener bit in it,
but I'd be more worried about safety with all these powertools - especially
since you're drilling something cylindrical.
Rob learned my lesson
i'm finished making my new camera...
http://www.rahji.com/images/wooden_bottom.jpg
http://www.rahji.com/images/wooden_front.jpg
http://www.rahji.com/images/wooden_side.jpg
it's made of poplar. there's a wooden frame inside to hold the film/paper
in and also create a light trap. i machined all
You could come by the Cambridge Center for Adult Ed in harvard square where
Richard Koolish and I are doing a 2-day workshop. I think you'd have to be
a paid attendee to use the darkroom with us, but you could always come to
hang out, make images and generally convivilate. :)
Rob.
From: Thom
Sorry, I should've mentioned this on the list... I've actually got pdf
copies of several exposure scales and I'm going to put them on my website as
soon as I get a moment (within the coming week?). Thanks for the info...
rob
From: John Yeo jonn...@thegrid.net
Reply-To: pinhole-discussion@p
If you by chance , you are headed to the design board, any chance of
designing a pinhole calculator similar to those found on the Multi-Format
camera from you? Something like a disc that can be attached by a clip to
the
belt, or on a cordor a necklace to be worn around the neck, easy to
The classic line-down-the-middle-when-using-glossy-paper-and-a-cylinder
phenomenon... http://www.rahji.com/images/pinholebike.jpg
My votes are for either a burr on the edge of the pinhole or reflection
inside of the camera. For the former, try taking the pinhole plate out of
the camera and scanning it into photoshop or something - then enlarge it and
see if it still looks round. For the latter.. did you blacken everything
ummm, sorry.. i also wanted to ask if anyone has sort of a summary of
developing techniques for that ortho-litho stuff (eg which chemicals in
which dilutions). i wish there was an easier way to search the archives.
:-/
thanks again,
rob
Hi. Stupid question.. if I buy and shoot 120 slide film in my Zero2000, are
the slides the same size as the ones I get from 35mm film? ie: can I use
them in an ordinary slide projector or viewer?
Thanks for any info,
Rob
a rubber band maybe?
From: Bob Arnott b...@fatboab.org
Organization: fatboab.org
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Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2002 22:38:27 +
To: pinhole pinhole-discussion@p at ???
Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Camera construction question...
When you're building
interesting. do you think she measured the amount of concentrate for the
amount of water that she thought the bowl was holding and then mixed it in
the toilet? that's pretty cold water isn't it?
how bad is it to flush the chemicals that we use? i keep the used chemicals
in jugs and i'm waiting
Hey John,
I just want to make sure I get it.. you are dipping the stack of
glued-together tubes into the tanks? how do you agitate it?
rob
From: John Yeo jonn...@thegrid.net
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Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 20:20:54 -0800
To: pinhole-discussion@p at ???
It's still at the same address.. bit it still has 49 names so you're okay.
http://www.rahji.com/noindex/pinholexmas.php3
rob
From: Andy Schmitt aschm...@warwick.net
Reply-To: pinhole-discussion@p at ???
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 22:04:01 -0500
To: pinhole discussion list
I think there's a good example of the pinhole noise that Rusty is talking
about in the preface of Eric Renner's book. It's the image made from a
handbag with a hole cut in it.
I think it has the kind of secret hole effect that Lisa mentioned?
Here's my embarrassing contribution to the two
Is it not more akin to drawing? Particularly if the exposures are long. So
far my exposures are far too long for candid photos.
Try film. I just realized that I got two incredible images from the swap
(from Zernike and Ingo) that contained the kinds of figures I'm talking
about. I think
] Art 21: Ann Hamilton
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From: R Duarte ra...@rahji.com
candid images of people.
For fun you should check out this odd site I heard of last week.
http://www.pinholespy.com/ It's a little strange, but interesting.
There have been a number of well known
does anyone have contact info or a URL for photo warehouse?
thanks,
rob
hey, i'd like to try using 4x5 sheet film. does anyone have suggestions on
the easiest way that i could develop it? should i just use trays in the
dark? is there something easier without buying the $150 developing tank i
saw at the local camera store? :) you can email me directly instead of
From: Howard Wells sandw...@earthlink.net
...
I've always shot a lot of transparency film in various pinhole cameras,
partially because I always have it around for non-pinhole purposes, and
partially because of its beauty. Lately I've been using the 120 version
of Fuji Provia 400F. A
I use Ilford RC paper. I was told way back that Grade I paper would work
better for negatives. I have a giant package of some generic-brand Grade I
paper that I use sometimes too. I found some Grade I AGFA paper recently
but of course it has printing on the back. I'd say to stick with Ilford
good idea, but the photos will look pretty bad when printed unless they're
scanned/uploaded/downloaded/printed at really high resolution (which means
big file sizes). personally, i'd rather see silver prints in a gallery than
printouts but maybe i'm just being a baby. :)
rob
From: Chris
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From: ragowaring ragowar...@btinternet.com
To: pinhole-discussion@p at ???
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 3:33 PM
Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] WWPD in Boston
on 7/1/02 5:04 pm, R Duarte at ra...@rahji.com wrote:
hey, i'd like to get something going
an aweseome idea.. i've got some red plexiglas left over from a project..
i'll have to see if it works like a safelight or not. i mean, just any red
plastic isn't necessarily going to work right?
From: Richard M. Koolish kool...@bbn.com
Reply-To: pinhole-discussion@p at ???
Date: Sun, 6
yeah, i didn't really think of that. mainly because i've only dealt with
the nice metal tanks though (which i wouldn't want to puncture) and the only
plastic one i have has this agitation rod thing going down the middle.
also, i think the best part of this idea is that if i could make a bunch of
Thanks, Chris. Actually I've seen those pages. I guess I'm more interested
in knowing if anyone's tried to integrate a light-trapped hole in the top to
allow chemicals to be poured in and out without a darkroom.
rob
From: Christopher Kovacs kojax...@netscape.net
Reply-To:
Has anyone made a pinhole camera (maybe out of a paint can or something)
with a light trap on the top that would let developing chemicals in?
Basically something that would work just like a developing tank with a
pinhole in the side?
I'm just curious because it sounds like it'd be pretty easy to
but is it really opaque?
The ones I tried weren't
andy
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From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???
[mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of R Duarte
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 10:40 AM
To: pinhole-discussion@p at ???
Subject: Re
Does anyone know if there's anything we can do with metal or paper plate
developer? ie: using it to develop paper or film; possibly with some cool
side effect? I can get some really cheap.
Thanks for any info..
rob
are
not absolute but relative.
I hope this is of use
Alexis
on 3/1/02 8:42 pm, R Duarte at ra...@rahji.com wrote:
i usually have to put my light meters as low as they go. somewhere between
ASA 2 and 6?
rob
From: Christopher Wulff cwu...@sympatico.ca
Reply-To: pinhole-discussion@p
The cheapest plastic I've found is the thickest contractor bags they have at
Home Depot (a hardware store franchise in the US). (contractor bags are
basically really thick trash bags). I used these bags and gaffer's tape to
block 3 windows in bright sunlight in my room to create a camera obscura
i usually have to put my light meters as low as they go. somewhere between
ASA 2 and 6?
rob
From: Christopher Wulff cwu...@sympatico.ca
Reply-To: pinhole-discussion@p at ???
Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 14:46:03 -0500
To: Pinhole-discussion@p at ???
Subject: [pinhole-discussion] Working
ilford is blank on the back, so it's okay. agfa has printing on the back.
i haven't tried any other RC papers. everywhere seems to carry ilford
paper. i bought the agfa paper because someone told me a long time ago that
using grade I paper would be better for the negative than multigrade paper.
I think it would be good if, after clicking the thumbnail and it shows the
full-sized image, it displayed the URL at the bottom so people could easily
email the exact link to other people.
rob
hmm.. i just developed film for the first time in my bathroom. about 5
rolls, 35mm and 120. all seemed to work well except i realized near the end
that i was using the paper dilution of fixer.. 1+7 instead of 1+3. for what
it's worth, the ilford chart says to fix for 2-5 mins and i did it for
I'm wondering if it's used for something other than household plumbing. I
wanted to make the developing tubes a while back. The guy at Home Depot
(giant warehouse-sized hardware store chain) had never even heard of it. Of
course, I think I was asking for black PVC at the time.
rob
From: Andy
It's not pinhole but I have a photography friend who is freezing flowers in
tubs of water and photographing them (lens)...some partially exposed from the
ice, some sections completely covered by ice.
sort of related.. frozen apples last week. :)
I think he moved to France. He brought that camera in one day but I never
got a good look at it. I'd love to make one like the one that he had - the
photos that I saw were great! If I remember correctly it was basically the
same as a foamcore pinhole camera except that it had a paper lens
wow, i just put it in the can and close the lid. :) it always seems to
keep itself in place because of the curved wall.
From: Markus Birsfelder b...@active.ch
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List-Post: pinhole-discussion@pinhole.com
Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 07:57:12 +0100
To:
ugh. i just looked at the negatives i made and realized that they have the
AGFA watermark on the back like you said. that stinks.
I just realized that one of my packages of RC paper is actually not RC -
it's fiber! I can't return it because the photo store doesn't allow returns
on paper. Can I use this for printing in the same way that I use RC paper?
I'm guessing I can't use it for paper negatives. Looking at the Ilford
I bought a package of AGFA grade 1 RC paper a few weeks ago (old stuff i
think - it was cheap) and as I took their tape off of the black bag in the
dark, I thought I noticed a flash of light. I was right!!! As I slowly
pulled the sticker off of the bag it was creating a bunch of little sparks!!
Anyone ever done it (to make the developer less active)?
: [pinhole-discussion] developing ortho litho film with paper
developer?
--- R Duarte ra...@rahji.com wrote:
Hey,
I took some 35mm cannister photos last week using some 35mm ortho litho film
that i got from .. well i forget where i bought it. anyway, i thought i
remembered it being
on the darkslide when you tried to put
it back in. If that is the case, try to trim a little more off the
sides. Having it extra long won't work as it won't fit into the film
track right. Good luck. Its not to hard when you have proper instructions.
R Duarte wrote:
well. i asked
i think the trick is going to be to cut the paper a bit longer than 5 so that
it hangs out of the holder a little.
oops.. sorry if that was confusing.. i'm using 4x5 film holders.. so maybe
cutting it 4 x 5.25 (like i said - a bit longer than 5) would work?
rob
Hey,
I took some 35mm cannister photos last week using some 35mm ortho litho film
that i got from .. well i forget where i bought it. anyway, i thought i
remembered it being develop-able (!?) in paper developer. i did it and
there's a good image. it looks weird though - it's a snow scene and
well. i asked this question about a month ago and i just tried it last
week. yikes. it worked once and the other time, the darkslide crunched the
paper and popped it out of the holder instead of sliding in front of the
paper. of course this all happened inside the camera so i couldn't help
1) I've acquired some 4 x 5 and 5 x 7 film holders thru both the generosity
of list members and eBay shopping.
Is there anything that can be done with holders declared to be 'leaky' by a
previous owner? I haven't tried them yet.
build a camera that will accept the film backs. there are plans
ugh, i hate to do this because i know it's out there somewhere but i just
can't find it. can anyone tell me where i've seen a photo (or maybe an
article that i haven't seen) of a homemade pinhole shutter that uses a cable
release?
thanks for any help..
rob
I checked my PO Box today and found that I already had stuff from 2 people!
Woohoo! I hoping to mail mine this week.
From: ethereal art ethereal...@mindspring.com
Reply-To: pinhole-discussion@p at ???
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 19:16:00 -0500
To: pinhole-discussion@p at ???
Subject:
they're actually easy to come by. a company called artograph makes a bunch
of different models. i have a really cheap one that i got from A.C. Moore
(a craft store chain in the US) for about $7! it works but the lens
obviously isn't as good as the kind you'd find in an enlarger or something.
this one? http://www.rahji.com/noindex/pinholexmas.php3
(btw, it's not a xmas swap.. i just didn't change the url since i didn't
want people who got it early on to get confused.)
rob
From: aa...@deadlettertype.com
Reply-To: pinhole-discussion@p at ???
Date: 13 Nov 2001 10:39:50 -0800
There's nothing to stop you from using 4x5 sheets of paper with a 4x5 film
back right?
From: Guy Glorieux guy.glori...@sympatico.ca
...
George L Smyth wrote:
I use 4X5 and 8X10 all the time. The advantage is that you can use film
holders to swap the film out, so shooting is not a one
I actually made 2 holes.. one for 5x7 and one for 8x10. Here's a picture:
http://www.rahji.com/images/oatmealcamera.jpg
In theory you would cover one of the holes and use the other. I've never
used the 5x7 one though. :)
rob
From: Uptown Gallery gall...@uptowngallery.org
Reply-To:
Thanks for the tip, Larry! It'll help in the future. :)
From: larrybul...@netscape.net
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Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 15:48:33 -0400
To: pinhole-discussion@p at ???
Subject: RE: [pinhole-discussion] aaarrgg!!!
R Duarte ra...@rahji.com wrote
so i went to the photographica show at waltham (massachusetts) high school
this morning. bought a bunch of stuff.. a polaroid land camera, a couple
cable releases, some developing tanks and reels, a viewmaster(tm), etc. i
also bought a manual 35mm SLR for my girlfriend. bought some film. spent
they may sell different parts of the company to other companies. i think
that's one of their plans now that they've claimed bankruptcy.
From: dalf...@aol.com
Reply-To: pinhole-discussion@p at ???
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 14:51:25 EDT
To: pinhole-discussion@p at ???
Subject: Re:
Hi,
I changed the page a bit so you can get a random list of addresses based on
how many cards you want to send out. :) You can still see the complete
list though. It's still at http://www.rahji.com/noindex/pinholexmas.php3
rob
corrections to make it simple as everyone suggested?
From: R Duarte ra...@rahji.com
Reply-To: pinhole-discussion@p at ???
Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2001 17:03:52 -0400
To: pinhole-discussion@p at ???
Subject: [pinhole-discussion] holiday pinhole mailing list thing
So maybe we can finalize this now
So maybe we can finalize this now. I can update the web page with the
following info:
--
This is a list of the names and addresses of people on the
pinhole-discussion mailing list who would like to swap holiday postcards.
You can either randomly choose a bunch of people to send the postcards
My vote is:
1) limit to 4x6 postcards (no envelopes)
2) holiday theme but nobody gets punched in the arm if it's off-topic. :)
3) we can break the list into smaller fragments once it seems that nobody
else is going to sign up right? there are 33 signed up on the site right
now. maybe stop
Using film will allow you to make enlargements. Since Tri-X is panchromatic,
you cannot use a safelight when developing the film. Sometimes I use halftone
film, which is orthochromatic, which can be developed under a safelight.
i think i'll try the halftone ortho film as you and gordon
I had trouble getting the temperature right last time (which was the first
time I'd used my own darkroom and my own chemicals) because the Dektol
developer I used was dry and it says to mix some of it with hot water so it
can dissolve completely. Maybe I should just try to get some liquid
Hi,
What's the focal length for a 35mm SLR with a body cap pinhole? I'm trying
to find out what size to make the pinhole.
Also, in my bathroom-darkroom I've only dealt with developing RC paper
negatives and prints. I just made a camera that will use 4x5 film backs and
I'm wondering if I should
With mine, I've painted the inside of the camera with Krylon ultra-flat
black paint before putting the pinhole in. then i'd tape the pinhole in
with black gaffer's tape. any shiny parts that are left around the actual
hole, I color in with a black marker. i get as close to the hole as
possible.
In case anyone's interested, this is what the USPS website says ...
Postcard and Stamped Card Rates
Postcard $0.21
Stamped card (sold by USPS) 0.23
Postcard Rate Dimensions:
Minimum: 3-1/2 inches high by 5 inches long by 0.007 inch thick.
Maximum: 4-1/4 inches high by 6 inches long by 0.016
I have add my address to the page.
Rob, are you sure our address will not exposed for any commerical usage? ;-)
well, i know you're probably just kidding but .. :) i promise that i would
never do anything with the addresses, and as far as other people seeing it..
it's not linked from any other
that prints an image of some sort of your pinhole shot.
I have absolutely no idea of how well this works. I hope to try it out in
the next few weeks.
Gord
On Sun, 23 Sep 2001, R Duarte wrote:
Hi,
I am building a wooden camera that will take 4x5 film backs. I was planning
on just loading
Hi,
I am building a wooden camera that will take 4x5 film backs. I was planning
on just loading the film backs with 4x5 pieces of RC paper. If I were to
load it with 4x5 sheets of FILM instead, what can I do with the film
negative once I've exposed and developed it? Can I still only contact
Pinhole portraits only! g
here's one of me... http://www.rahji.com/images/pinholeme.jpg
i'm 27 and i live in boston. i have a bachelor's of science degree in
business information systems with a minor in computer information science
(phew!). i've decided that the left half of my brain has
you should get the eric renner book.. it has a chart with pinhole sizes in
mm and inches.. there's also a chart that has different needle sizes and
their corresponding size in those same units.
rob
From: Kelly Robart bp...@sislands.com
Reply-To: pinhole-discussion@p at ???
Date: Wed, 19
I used strapping tape to make this camera..
http://www.rahji.com/images/composinglines.jpg
then used gaffer's tape over all of the joints just to make it light tight.
the strapping tape makes a really strong box though.
rob
From: George L Smyth glsm...@yahoo.com
Reply-To: pinhole-discussion@p
hi everyone,
i guess this isn't necessarily a pinhole question but i've only been using
my enlarger for pinhole contact prints so far so actually i guess it is a
pinhole question. :)
anyway, i have this red filter that i think goes where the negative carrier
goes. can i really use this to line
wow, nice ascii art indeed! :)
since I've seen a few people ask about this and some people suggest drawing
lines on the camera itself, I figured I'd take a picture of one of my
cameras that I did that with. It helps to do what Jeff is describing when
you actually have the lines drawn on the
The guy that taught my pinhole class at Cambridge Center for Adult Education
said that he was just finishing up writing a book. He's really into doing
anything you can to not have to rely on big corporations - like making
pinhole/lens cameras, film, etc. He didn't really talk about it during the
that was the original plan but there were a couple problems at the last
minute.. one is that i accidentally sliced the brass shim stock with the
pinhole when i was exacto-ing the tiles around it. :P
rob
From: Michael Keller m.w.kel...@verizon.net
Reply-To: pinhole-discussion@p at ???
So, to make that project that I just emailed about I turned my bathroom into
a darkroom. It's worked pretty good. I'm just wondering about one thing...
the stop bath seems to turn purple really quickly (like 20 mins?)..
especially if normal light hits it. How dark does it get before it's bad,
Hey,
Check this out when you get a chance...
http://www.rahji.com/maskshow.php3
I won't write anything here since I pretty much wrote everything on the
webpage anyway. :)
Thanks
Rob.
hey bill,
this (long!) link will give you a list of a million free online photo
albums...
http://directory.google.com/Top/Computers/Internet/On_the_Web/Web_Applicatio
ns/Virtual_Disk_Drives/Photo_Sharing/
good luck!
rob
From: Bill Sue bilk...@netzero.net
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wow, that picture is amazing! check out eric renner's Pinhole Photography
book for some interesting pictures of the sky exposed over the course of 6
months. Unfortunately I don't think he mentions much about how they were
technically accomplished.
rob
From: Richard M. Koolish kool...@bbn.com
that's not much time for a time capsule is it? i think a long term one is a
really cool idea though. is this still related to the thread about whether
bw developer will be around in 50 years? ie: would we be making cameras,
taking a picture, then putting the camera in the time capsule? or
This is probably a super-newbie question but I've never dealt with
professional photo labs until now. I got 5x5 proofs when I had my
Zero2000's 120 roll film developed this past week. I'm curious.. how
different do these look as compared to what I would get if I asked them to
make a print from
wow, bizarre! now I see why someone would put a hole in the END of a tube..
I was thinking people were putting a hole in the flat end of the tube and
the paper/film on the other flat end... I didn't consider wrapping the paper
around as you did. pretty cool!
From: james kellar
So, I haven't gotten back my first roll yet so I'm not sure how/if the
images are going to develop. I'm a little concerned about the exposure
times... I tried using my light meter but the exposure times came out to
about 1/8 second in bright light (using the dial on the back of the camera).
Hey everyone,
This is great - I'm glad I found this mailing list! Ever since Rusty came
to a class that I was taking at MassArt and showed us some of his work I've
been wanting to get involved with pinhole. I took a pinhole class with Alan
Greene at the Cambridge Center for Adult Education this
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