Re: [PLUG] Thinkpad T60 QXGA

2009-12-11 Thread Bill Barry
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 11:14 PM, John Jason Jordan joh...@comcast.netwrote: The only comment I have is probably irrelevant to what Keith is putting together. I have a T61 and I recently discovered that the internal Intel SATA controller is SATA-2, but Lenovo throttled it to 100 MB/s. The

Re: [PLUG] Thinkpad T60 QXGA

2009-12-11 Thread Paul Mullen
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 11:59:34PM -0800, Bill Barry wrote: Seriously, for a single laptop drive of the type that spins platters, you are not limited by a 100MB/s interface because the drive itself is only capable of transfer rates of 60MB/s or less. But if the data your processor needs is

Re: [PLUG] Throttled SATA (was) T60 QXGA

2009-12-11 Thread Galen Seitz
Keith Lofstrom wrote: Something to look at. I've also heard stories that some Thinkpads have slowdown problems with some very large SATA drives. I'm booted to my distro, installed on a Seagate SATA-2 500GB drive, and I will run speed tests in the morning (a cheesy C program that writes lots

Re: [PLUG] We need more ... Local group open house

2009-12-11 Thread chris (fool) mccraw
On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 05:37, Mike Connors mconno...@gmail.com wrote: Michael Dexter wrote: Might a local (most of the stuff you find on Calagator) Calagator - Didn't know such a thing existed until now. Many Thanks!  user group open house be in order? PLUG, Ruby, Perl, Smalltalk, Drupal,

Re: [PLUG] We need more ... Local group open house

2009-12-11 Thread Mike Connors
chris (fool) mccraw wrote: the winter coders' social was a great deal of fun and happened on tuesday night...make sure to put the summer one on your calendar for cross-interest-group mixin' Are there many novice devs at these events? I was a Comp Sci major once upon a time, a time of

Re: [PLUG] We need more ... Local group open house

2009-12-11 Thread Rich Shepard
On Fri, 11 Dec 2009, Mike Connors wrote: Are there many novice devs at these events? I was a Comp Sci major once upon a time, a time of Assembler, Basic, Pascal, and Fortran. But those dinosaurs are extinct now in the modern world of object oriented and interpreted langs... I know of a

Re: [PLUG] We need more ... Local group open house

2009-12-11 Thread chris (fool) mccraw
On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 09:44, Mike Connors mconno...@gmail.com wrote: chris (fool) mccraw wrote: the winter coders' social was a great deal of fun and happened on tuesday night...make sure to put the summer one on your calendar for cross-interest-group mixin' Are there many novice devs at

Re: [PLUG] We need more ... Local group open house

2009-12-11 Thread Mike Connors
If you want to be modern, you can probably learn Object COBOL, or use one of Microsoft's visual languages. :-) My son was a CS/Math major, and worked in the insurance and banking back end industries writing COBOL code. Hated it. Well alright then, thanks for the words of inspiration...:-(

Re: [PLUG] Progress Report -- Desktop Sharing on Ubuntu, Not

2009-12-11 Thread Tim Bruce - PLUG
On Fri, December 11, 2009 10:02, Tim Wescott wrote: I wrote quite a while ago with problems with sharing my desktop under Ubuntu. It looks like it ought to work, I have the remote server set up so that it should share the desktop all the way, yet the best I can get (and intermittently at

Re: [PLUG] Progress Report -- Desktop Sharing on Ubuntu, Not

2009-12-11 Thread Joe Pruett
Have you looked at wrapping VNC inside of an ssh connection? You can use something like: ssh 5912:timslaptop:5901 t...@laptop.local and then connect using VNC and connecting to localhost:5912. I'm going off the top of my head for the commands, so you might have to play with it a bit. Of

Re: [PLUG] Progress Report -- Desktop Sharing on Ubuntu, Not

2009-12-11 Thread Tim Wescott
Tim Bruce - PLUG wrote: On Fri, December 11, 2009 10:02, Tim Wescott wrote: I wrote quite a while ago with problems with sharing my desktop under Ubuntu. It looks like it ought to work, I have the remote server set up so that it should share the desktop all the way, yet the best I can get

Re: [PLUG] Progress Report -- Desktop Sharing on Ubuntu, Not

2009-12-11 Thread chris (fool) mccraw
On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 10:02, Tim Wescott t...@wescottdesign.com wrote: I wrote quite a while ago with problems with sharing my desktop under Ubuntu.  It looks like it ought to work, I have the remote server set up so that it should share the desktop all the way, yet the best I can get (and

[PLUG] bonnie, was Throttled SATA

2009-12-11 Thread Keith Lofstrom
On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 09:19:36AM -0800, Galen Seitz wrote: Any particular reason for rolling your own rather than using bonnie? http://www.coker.com.au/bonnie++/ Because I know I can count on friends like you to tell me about nifty programs like bonnie :-) The relevant results for

[PLUG] gnome window content display problems, Intel video on DellD620, Karmic upgrade

2009-12-11 Thread Joe Shisei Niski
** i upgraded my Dell D620 (work) laptop Jaunty from to Karmic (32-bit). Video hardware according to lspci is: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS/GME, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03) kernel

Re: [PLUG] Progress Report -- Desktop Sharing on Ubuntu, Not

2009-12-11 Thread Eric Wilhelm
# from chris (fool) mccraw # on Friday 11 December 2009 10:53: in which i found out that vino (the thing that lets you share your desktop, rather than just attaching with standard VNC to an entirely virtual remote display that is separate from what you see on the console) is actually just a

[PLUG] What is POE?

2009-12-11 Thread Michael Robinson
Power over Ethernet and how is it implemented? I'm tempted to grab 2 Invictus wireless outdoor WAPS, but I'm concerned about what POE is since they use it. http://www.invictuswireless.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=NS2 ___ PLUG mailing list

Re: [PLUG] What is POE?

2009-12-11 Thread Eric Wilhelm
# from Michael Robinson # on Friday 11 December 2009 13:22: Power over Ethernet and how is it implemented? Did you try asking wikipedia? --Eric -- Issues of control, repair, improvement, cost, or just plain understandability all come down strongly in favor of open source solutions to complex

Re: [PLUG] What is POE?

2009-12-11 Thread Joe Pruett
Power over Ethernet and how is it implemented? I'm tempted to grab 2 Invictus wireless outdoor WAPS, but I'm concerned about what POE is since they use it. http://www.invictuswireless.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=NS2 poe is quite nice. it lets you use the standard ethernet twisted

Re: [PLUG] bonnie, was Throttled SATA

2009-12-11 Thread chris (fool) mccraw
On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 11:37, Keith Lofstrom kei...@kl-ic.com wrote: The main difference seems related to the drive rotation speed. I'd be curious about other folk's results. a thing to consider--did you tune with hdparm at all? i detune my (bedroom, caseless) fileserver drives so they'll be

[PLUG] Embedded Linux meet-up summary: 2009-12-10

2009-12-11 Thread Scott Garman
Last night I was pleasantly surprised when seven other folks showed up at Staccato Gelato for the first PLUG embedded Linux meet-up. We had a diverse range of interests represented, from the curious, wanting to learn more camp to folks working on embedded projects at various levels - from x86

Re: [PLUG] What is POE?

2009-12-11 Thread Russell Senior
Joe == Joe Pruett j...@clean.q7.com writes: Power over Ethernet and how is it implemented? I'm tempted to grab 2 Invictus wireless outdoor WAPS, but I'm concerned about what POE is since they use it. http://www.invictuswireless.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=NS2 Joe poe is quite

Re: [PLUG] Embedded Linux meet-up summary: 2009-12-10

2009-12-11 Thread Russell Senior
Scott == Scott Garman sgar...@zenlinux.com writes: Scott Scott Scott -- Scott Garman sgarman at zenlinux dot com Scott In the meantime, I think I was somehow tricked into doing an Scott upcoming Advanced Topics presentation on OpenEmbedded. :) So Scott keep an eye out for that. Tell Alan Olsen

Re: [PLUG] What is POE?

2009-12-11 Thread Fred James
Russell Senior wrote: Joe == Joe Pruett j...@clean.q7.com writes: Power over Ethernet and how is it implemented? I'm tempted to grab 2 Invictus wireless outdoor WAPS, but I'm concerned about what POE is since they use it.

[PLUG] Quickcam Express USB

2009-12-11 Thread someone
http://qce-ga.sourceforge.net/ The 0.6.6 driver works with the 2.6.10 kernel, but I can't get it to compile with the 2.6.27.39 kernel. I type make all and the next thing I know the source has deleted completely. I hate to drop down to the 2.6.10 kernel, but I really want the camera to work

[PLUG] tracking/accounting for memory use

2009-12-11 Thread Russell Senior
I've got a problem tracking down where memory is disappearing to on an embedded linux platform. I know basically about caches and buffers and such and have looked at /proc/meminfo and /proc/slabinfo and kind of understand about how slabs work. However, I don't know what numbers in /proc/meminfo

Re: [PLUG] Embedded Linux meet-up summary: 2009-12-10

2009-12-11 Thread Wayne E. Van Loon Sr.
Scott Garman wrote: Upcoming Meetings: I'm not sure if Staccato Gelato is going to work as our main meeting location, as the place filled up with some families later in the evening and it became pretty challenging for everyone to hear each other. My feeling for now is to hold off on

[PLUG] Progress Report -- Remote Desktop Access on Ubuntu -- Yes!

2009-12-11 Thread Tim Wescott
OK. I seem to need to embarrass myself in some public forum before I can get things like this working. Thankfully, this list provides the forum. Ubuntu, in it's infinite wisdom, has provided a mutually incompatible set of features: the whiz-bang desktop effects feature, and vino, the VCN

Re: [PLUG] What is POE?

2009-12-11 Thread Dan Young
On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 1:25 PM, Eric Wilhelm enoba...@gmail.com wrote: # from Michael Robinson # on Friday 11 December 2009 13:22: Power over Ethernet and how is it implemented? Did you try asking wikipedia? My favorite method of snarky reply to that sort of question:

Re: [PLUG] gnome window content display problems, Intel video on DellD620, Karmic upgrade

2009-12-11 Thread Scott Garman
Joe Shisei Niski wrote: ** i upgraded my Dell D620 (work) laptop Jaunty from to Karmic (32-bit). Video hardware according to lspci is: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS/GME, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics

[PLUG] Initializing Dirvish

2009-12-11 Thread Rich Shepard
After setting up the bank and vault, the HOWTO says I need to initialize the backups. The script is failing at line 4. [r...@salmo ~]# dirvish --vault salmo.appl-ecosys.com --init /usr/local/sbin/dirvish: line 4: syntax error near unexpected token (' /usr/local/sbin/dirvish: line 4: $VERSION =

Re: [PLUG] What is POE?

2009-12-11 Thread m0gely
Michael Robinson wrote: Power over Ethernet and how is it implemented? I'm tempted to grab 2 Invictus wireless outdoor WAPS, but I'm concerned about what POE is since they use it. http://www.invictuswireless.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=NS2 http://lmgtfy.com/?q=what+is+poe%3F --

Re: [PLUG] What is POE?

2009-12-11 Thread MJang
On Fri, 2009-12-11 at 16:31 -0600, Fred James wrote: snip Just beware that not all PoE powered devices are IEEE Standard 802.3af PoE. Lots of devices I deal with are something called passive poe where there is no handshaking protocols, and the end devices are typically expecting less

Re: [PLUG] What is POE?

2009-12-11 Thread Erik Lane
In addition, they can't be connected to surge suppressors, as the signal used over the power line is filtered by such. However, I have a pair of 200MBps PoEs at home, and it doesn't matter that they're connected to different circuit breakers. Though as I understand it, 85MBps PoE connections

Re: [PLUG] Initializing Dirvish

2009-12-11 Thread chris (fool) mccraw
that looks like a perl script, and that error message looks to be from bash. i think the first line should be #!/usr/bin/perl but i could be wrong. free to try tho :) On 12/11/09, Rich Shepard rshep...@appl-ecosys.com wrote: After setting up the bank and vault, the HOWTO says I need to

Re: [PLUG] Initializing Dirvish

2009-12-11 Thread Rich Shepard
On Fri, 11 Dec 2009, chris (fool) mccraw wrote: that looks like a perl script, and that error message looks to be from bash. i think the first line should be #!/usr/bin/perl but i could be wrong. free to try tho :) Chris, I think you're absolutely correct! Let me try ... yes, you are.

Re: [PLUG] What is POE?

2009-12-11 Thread MJang
On Fri, 2009-12-11 at 18:42 -0800, Erik Lane wrote: In addition, they can't be connected to surge suppressors, as the signal used over the power line is filtered by such. However, I have a pair of 200MBps PoEs at home, and it doesn't matter that they're connected to different circuit

Re: [PLUG] Initializing Dirvish

2009-12-11 Thread Dale Snell
On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 17:18:40 -0800 Rich Shepard rshep...@appl-ecosys.com wrote: After setting up the bank and vault, the HOWTO says I need to initialize the backups. The script is failing at line 4. [r...@salmo ~]# dirvish --vault salmo.appl-ecosys.com --init /usr/local/sbin/dirvish:

Re: [PLUG] What is POE?

2009-12-11 Thread Neal
On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 6:42 PM, Erik Lane erikl...@gmail.com wrote: In addition, they can't be connected to surge suppressors, as the signal used over the power line is filtered by such. However, I have a pair of 200MBps PoEs at home, and it doesn't matter that they're connected to different