bpa wrote:
Got the T-shirt for that one already.
see
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?103158-Announce-PlayHLS-Plugin-plugin-to-play-Apple-HLS-m3u8-streamp=808418viewfull=1#post808418
So you have. It is different from my LMS, although I don't know if LMS
sets itself up differently
bpa wrote:
Klammer (armada370 based Synology) is the only Synology with the problem
persisting. ffmpeg doesn't work when run from a shell prompt under
userid admin but works nder user id root. This is not the case for other
Synology NASs. Also on armda370 Synology, ffmpeg (owned by user
bpa wrote:
Make sure BBCIplayer settings are set to the most comprehensive and
enable transcoding.
You can enable player.source to DEBUG and then try playing a stream.
The log which ffmpeg is run.
Yes, that was the problem. Now playing fine.
utgg wrote:
Is it muddying the water to try my own written from scratch program
here? It's a drop-in replacement for ffmpeg so long as the options are
-loglevel quiet -i $FILE$ -acodec copy -f adts -, i.e. it will only
output adts aac. So it's only good for players that can can handle aac,
Hi,
I recently reinstalled and reconfigured my Synology DS410j with
Squeezebox server 7.7.3-040. On the squeezebox I installed firmware
7.7.3-r16676. I also installed the YouTube plugin on the squeezebox
server on my Synology.
On the squeezebox I can access the plugin under 'my applications'
I made a previous post about a problem I am having with the stream
stuttering and then stopping. It seemed to get better but for the last
couple of days all I can manage is a 30-60 sec run of music/broadcast
before it goes silent, then perhaps comes back once or twice for a few
seconds before
From memory, the path is
~/Library/Cache/Squeezebox/InstalledPlugins/Plugins/BBCIplayer
Where ~ is your home directory
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Krisbee wrote:
The idea is basically to build a current version of ffmpeg on your
Synology device in a debian chroot.
Are you able to point me to a web site that will give me some
instructions how to do this?
I have installed the debian chroot on my Synology DS214 but have never
compiled
Hi ctweedle,
please always use the LMS version 7.9 nightly as this is the one that I
always test with new images and this one works. The C1 version for
Max2Play is more an alpha version compared to the U3. The U3 Max2Play
should work without problems and detect most USB-drives. HD-idle is used
On one side :
-I can understand Qobuz wants tu push people to get the 10 subscription
instead of the 5.
-I don't understand the pricing levelling from mp3 streaming @5, and
the flac one 4 times more expensive...
-... While for me, 20 for flac streaming is fine.
on the other side, from
bonze wrote:
Isn't HDS the video equivalent of HLS?
The codec is AAC - Simmons says AAC-LC at 320kb/s and 128kb/s bit rate
and HE-AAC(v1) at 96kb/s and 48kb/s. But the streaming protocol comes
in two types: HLS (for iOS and Android) and HDS (for desktop) delivery
methods. So HDS is already
TheLastMan wrote:
Are you able to point me to a web site that will give me some
instructions how to do this?
I have installed the debian chroot on my Synology DS214 but have never
compiled anything before. I am happy to follow some Linux step-by-step
instructions if there are any out
bpa wrote:
Using readelf looking at the ffmpeg executable for arm - it says it is a
armv5te
Code:
.
.
.
Flags: 0x5000202, has entry point, Version5
EABI, soft-float ABI
.
.
.
Attribute Section: aeabi
File
Krisbee wrote:
Well I wouldn't say compiling stuff is one of my strong points, and
instructions on setting up and using the debian-chroot package are hard
to find. This is what I did and assumes you are starting from scratch.
...
[snip excellent detailed instructions]
Thanks for that. I
bpa wrote:
No - HDS is Adobe's version of Apple's HLS. Battle of standards so DASH
is supposed to be vendor neutral and international standard.
Both can do video.
HDS, HLS and DASH are all streaming protocols - a way to move data. For
HL:S audio the audio is encapsulated in MPEG-TS.
bpa wrote:
No - HDS is Adobe's version of Apple's HLS. Battle of standards so DASH
is supposed to be vendor neutral and international standard.
Both can do video.
HDS, HLS and DASH are all streaming protocols - a way to move data. For
HL:S audio the audio is encapsulated in MPEG-TS.
If ffmpeg will run on Synology on a command line as admin:user and for a
BBC HLS link, but not when run as admin from LMS, then compiling another
version of ffmpeg is most unlikely to help.
'Operation Not Permitted' must imply some form of permissions problem.
This might be due to some form of
In his blog of 9th February, Jim Simmons of the BBC wrote all our
services are now available in HLS and HDS using the AAC codec. We've
had great success accessing the HLS streams for live radio thanks to
bpa's PlayHLS plugin combined with ffmpeg (although the Listen Again
steams have yet to be
pierrepoulpe wrote:
-I don't understand the pricing levelling from mp3 streaming @5, and
the flac one 4 times more expensive...
Streaming FLAC files will require around 3 times more bandwidth than
streaming MP3 files, and Qobuz will have to pay for the bandwidth
required to bring these files
Krisbee wrote:
It lets you install QNAP packages on a Synology NAS assuming the
architecture works for you. Both Arm ( not sure what variety ) and x86
http://qnapware.zyxmon.org/binaries-arm/Packages.html
http://qnapware.zyxmon.org/binaries-x86/Packages.html
Using readelf looking
majones wrote:
In his blog of 9th February, Jim Simmons of the BBC wrote all our
services are now available in HLS and HDS using the AAC codec. We've
had great success accessing the HLS streams for live radio thanks to
bpa's PlayHLS plugin combined with ffmpeg (although the Listen Again
bonze wrote:
Isn't HDS the video equivalent of HLS?
No - HDS is Adobe's version of Apple's HLS. Battle of standards so DASH
is supposed to be vendor neutral and international standard.
Both can do video.
bpa's
utgg wrote:
One thing I'm not sure about is if the mpeg2-ts decoder that is required
is subject to the $2 royalty per decoder. I'm assuming most
manufacturers of 'internet radios', logitech included, won't have paid
this...
$2 royalty to unpack an mpeg2-ts? That's outrageous, are you sure?
odw199 wrote:
From memory, the path is
~/Library/Cache/Squeezebox/InstalledPlugins/Plugins/BBCIplayer
Where ~ is your home directory
I have now located and verified the correct path to the menu.opml file
in OSX. It is as follows
From the Macintosh HD navigate through the following
danco wrote:
Yes, ffmpeg is in usr/local/bin, which I understand is correct. I could
try usr/bin, but prefer it in usr/ocal/bin. I could change the plugin to
look for it there if that's not the default, but anyway it is shown when
I check Advanced, File Types in LMS settings.
menu.opml is
Bandwidth costs not so much.
Qobuz desktop uses the regular api, for sure. Originally I reversed the
API from qobuz desktop sniffing. Today they still use it.
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bonze wrote:
I'm confused, is there an advantage of using HDS over HLS?
Is there an advantage of WMA-Lossless over ALAC ? Not really but the
vendor who gets control can direct the future. Flash died partly because
Apple wouldn't allow it on their systems.
bpa wrote:
Is there an advantage of WMA-Lossless over ALAC ? Not really but the
vendor who gets control can direct the future. Flash died partly because
Apple wouldn't allow it on their systems.
I meant specifically in relation to the HLS streams that we are already
using.
Just wondering
Yes, ffmpeg is in usr/local/bin, which I understand is correct. I could
try usr/bin, but prefer it in usr/ocal/bin. I could change the plugin to
look for it there if that's not the default, but anyway it is shown when
I check Advanced, File Types in LMS settings.
menu.opml is working fine,
Others will have more expertise but as a first step I would double check
whether ffmpeg and menu.opml have been copied to the correct folders.
Touch, Meridian G92, Meridian G55, PMC OB1i speakers, HP Proliant
Microserver/Ubuntu, PC/Windows 7, iPad 4, iPeng, Squeezepad.
bonze wrote:
Just wondering why majones was raising the question.
Ahh! Because I don't trust Apple and I'd like to think that we have the
Adobe option in place if required. Same logic as the BBC themselves, I
suspect!
bpa wrote:
HDS is Adobe's version of Apple's HLS.
I'm just wondering why the listener community is totally focused on HLS?
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utgg wrote:
From Wikipedia: According to the MPEG-2 licensing agreement *any use of
MPEG-2 technology is subject to royalties*. MPEG-2 encoders are subject
to a royalty of $2.00 per unit, decoders are subject to a royalty of
$2.00 per unit, and royalty-based sales of encoders and decoders
bpa wrote:
I thought it was to do with path so I rename libraries, changed
permission, inserted wrong version, etc. and in all cases I got an
error message that was clear (e.g. couldn't open/load file) and not
operation not permitted error.
However, when I changed an input decoder
TheLastMan wrote:
Has anybody out there got it working on a Synology NAS yet?
Yes, it is working for me after installing the SynoCommunity ffmpeg
package:
https://synocommunity.com/
Before, I had the same issues others are reporting.
Tim
PasTim wrote:
My understanding from a rather large number of posts is that ffmpeg can
even be run by admin from a command line, not just root. Is that
wrong?
If ordinary admin can run it OK, then:
- is there an environment variable used or set by LMS that could also be
affecting
majones wrote:
I'm just wondering why the listener community is totally focused on HLS?
ffmpeg already handles HLS. Also, given a choice of an Adobe standard or
an Apple standard, I go with Apple assuming there are no important
technical differences.
Owen Smith wrote:
ffmpeg already handles HLS. Also, given a choice of an Adobe standard or
an Apple standard, I go with Apple assuming there are no important
technical differences.
And DASH would be even better if the Beeb gets round to it since it is
an open international standard (what me,
utgg wrote:
But if it is the case, does it cause issues for anyone providing a
plugin?
You must be joking!
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PasTim wrote:
If ffmpeg will run on Synology on a command line as admin:user and for a
BBC HLS link, but not when run as admin from LMS, then compiling another
version of ffmpeg is most unlikely to help.
'Operation Not Permitted' must imply some form of permissions problem.
This might
Owen Smith wrote:
$2 royalty to unpack an mpeg2-ts? That's outrageous, are you sure? It's
not that difficult to unpack a ts and it was hardly cutting edge
research to create the format.
From Wikipedia: According to the MPEG-2 licensing agreement *any use of
MPEG-2 technology is subject to
majones wrote:
I'm just wondering why the listener community is totally focused on HLS?
I'm confused, is there an advantage of using HDS over HLS?
LMS Version: 7.9
TranquilPC T2-WHS-A3 - WHS 2011
2x Touch, 3x SB3
bpa wrote:
Klammer (armada370 based Synology) is the only Synology with the problem
persisting. ffmpeg doesn't work when run from a shell prompt under
userid admin but works nder user id root. This is not the case for other
Synology NASs. Also on armda370 Synology, ffmpeg (owned by user
bonze wrote:
... the normally Apple loving BBC
Hmm. I hadn't sussed why it's called iPlayer. So all we need to do is
re-brand as iSqueezebox and all our problems will go away.
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PasTim wrote:
I don't know how the Synology LMS is set up, but on my ubuntu system the
/etc/init.d/logitechmediaserver start-up file has a path like:
Code:
PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin
What PATH
So everything seems to be installed ok according to the instructions,
but I'm not getting any output. Running Mac OS 10.10.2 on a MacBook
Pro.
The Play HLS plugin is installed, as is ffmpeg from the site suggested.
The File types do show ffmpeg under Apple HLS.
The new version of menu.opml is
majones wrote:
Ahh! Because I don't trust Apple and I'd like to think that we have the
Adobe option in place if required. Same logic as the BBC themselves, I
suspect!
Which would be surprising from the normally Apple loving BBC
LMS Version: 7.9
TranquilPC T2-WHS-A3 - WHS 2011
2x Touch, 3x
Sorry for the delay in getting back to you.
When I tested it (using a 2 band equalizer) the sound was definitely
affected. I had 2 presets - one bass -6dB/treble +6dB and the other bass
+6dB/treble -6dB and there was a noticable difference between the two.
For convenience, I was using the iPeng
kingswindsor wrote:
I made a previous post about a problem I am having with the stream
stuttering and then stopping. It seemed to get better but for the last
couple of days all I can manage is a 30-60 sec run of music/broadcast
before it goes silent, then perhaps comes back once or twice
Radio 4's In Touch program for the blind today (Monday) had a segment
on the problems caused by the recent changes to the BBC streams:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0537664
First piece, starts at 00:55, about six minutes.
Over the past couple of weeks, listeners have been reporting that some
PasTim wrote:
I don't suppose Klammer could change the LMS startup file PATH statement
to match root's, or has that been done already, or would LMS not like
that?
Klammer has put support ticket into Synology and is waiting for their
reply.
There is no easy file editor on the NAS so editing
Thank you for contacting Synology.
Apologies for the delay in replying, we are experiencing a large amount
of tickets at this moment in time.
Unfortunately we are not able to support issues with Logitech media
server as the application was programmed and compiled by Logitech
themselves.
Well there I was innocently thinking it was just me. Stuttering playback
and cutting-out playback on various Listen Again BBC shows over the last
week or so on my Classics via OSX and the usually trusty iplayer plugin.
But a bit of googling reveals loads (and loads and loads!) of moaning
about
bpa wrote:
Your solution will help users by being lighter than ffmpeg.
Outputting adts AAC is OK as faad is supplied with LMS (even for armv5
it is fixed point faad better than ffmpeg I think).
Will you provide and support a binary for all platforms (various
ReadyNAS, Synology, QNAP
PasTim wrote:
Would it be possible for the install to make a backup of the current
versions, just in case, and/or warn users that their customisations will
be lost.
Can't warn.
IIRC Can't backup as I think Extensions plugin erases the plugin
directory before installing the new version.
bpa wrote:
A dilemma I have at the moment is that I am reluctant to produce a V1.2
of the plugin because it would trigger an install which would overwrite
all customisations users have made to the plugin files and so break
their BBC radio. Including a ffmpeg replacement binary in the plugin
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