utgg wrote:
I can't see any problem with that programme with the alpha plugin. Could
you try turning on 'debug' logging for the BBCiPlayer plugin
(plugin.bbciplayer and plugin.bbciplayer.hls) and posting the log when
trying to play this stream please?
Two pages of log (in my ignorance)
bonze wrote:
OK, that is weird.
The log I posted before was from Squeezeplay on a PC.
I just tried it on a Touch and it connected and played first time!
Squeezeplay on a PC running Windows?
I saw the following when playing using iPlayerExtra (in the log I
attached previously). I am
PaulinPosset wrote:
Running Windows 7 and have tested both iPlayer and iPlayer Extras and
both play correctly.
Ah well. Anyone else got any ideas? This is really rather strange. I
have played this several times and never had a single problem, iPlayer
or iPlayer Extras. Just now I even
bpa wrote:
What are your Listen Again Settings Preferences set to ? just HLS or
does it include MP3 ?
HLS MP3 FlashAAC FlashMP3
LMS Version: 7.9
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bonze wrote:
Was that for Monday (23/03)? that fails for me too. (Squeezeplay on
Windows), although programmes from each side of it are OK
But Today (24/03) works OK, and last Friday(20/03) seems OK:D
Crazy! Yes, Monday fails but today's works fine.
I was testing with the alpha plugin and utgg's patched HLS.pm.
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utgg wrote:
These are RTMP streams. If you use iPlayerExtras you get the RTMP
streams (the alpha BBCiPlayer plugin does the playing of these still,
but can only do so via the iPlayerExtras plugin). It's not clear to me
if the problem has also been seen with this program on these streams,
PasTim wrote:
Squeezeplay on a PC running Windows?Yep, Squeezeplay on Windows for me. Radio
works fine, Squeezeplay fails
everytime, both connected to same LMS.
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Davidg1 wrote:
Yep, Squeezeplay on Windows for me. Radio works fine, Squeezeplay fails
everytime, both connected to same LMS (only this one stream, that we
have found so far, remember).
Sounds like it is to do with transcoding, possibly only on a windows
platform, possibly only with local
bonze wrote:
Things I've tried:
LMS 7.9 running on a windows server.
Squeezeplay on Windows desktop doesn't work
Touch works
SB3 doesn't work
Hope that helps :p
Something to do with transcoding - the Touch is newer and none is
needed? But how can that be for just a very few
bpa wrote:
Also could someone humour me and see if the problem also occurs with
Stephen Nolan (any weekday) on Radio Ulster.
I now you are mainly asking about those who are having problems, but
from someone who hasn't had problems, that also works OK on my system.
LMS 7.9 on VortexBox Midi,
Well they don't appear at all for working streams, so for sure this
problem causes them, even if there may be other causes too.
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Well they don't appear at all for working streams, so for sure this
problem causes them, even if there may be other causes too.
Is there any option for a newer version of faad on Windows?
LMS 7.9 on VortexBox Midi, Xubuntu 14.04, FLACs 16-24 bit,
44.1-192kbps. LMS
bonze wrote:
Was that for Monday (23/03)? that fails for me too. (Squeezeplay on
Windows), although programmes from each side of it are OK
But Today (24/03) works OK, and last Friday(20/03) seems OK
What are your Listen Again Settings Preferences set to ? just HLS or
does it include MP3
dcassidy wrote:
Quick question, I presume only the latest episode is available for EACH
radio show..
For example: On Radio 2 Bob Harris Ultimate Playlist will play just
grand but it only offers (curretly at the time of writing) Episode 2
eventhough through the BBC Website Episode 1 is
utgg wrote:
These logs show the first 3 chunks of HLS audio have been received
correctly but I think that 'consecutiveErrors: 1' means that something
downstream of the plugin doesn't like the aac adts stream that has been
decoded in the plugin from the mpeg2 ts. Looks to be repeatable at
What player are you controlling? Hard those from those screenshots
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utgg wrote:
Does windows use faad for aac transcoding? I suspect that that, or
whatever windows uses, doesn't like something in the aac adts stream
that comes out of the plugin, but touch and radio are happy with it.
How about enabling logging player.source to debug to see if LMS is
bonze wrote:
With preference for On Demand set to just HLS
Same result, Friday OK, Monday not OK, Today OK
Been looking at the alpha code - HLS will only generate AAC so I'm not
on right lines but I think multiple suppliers multiple speeds is
involved because it happens more often with
Quick question, I presume only the latest episode is available for EACH
radio show..
For example: On Radio 2 Bob Harris Ultimate Playlist will play just
grand but it only offers (curretly at the time of writing) Episode 2
eventhough through the BBC Website Episode 1 is still available to
listen.
Looks like a bug in faad. I installed lame and that fails too. All
transcoding options fail. All use faad to decode AAC. Looking for some
different versions of faad!
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bpa wrote:
Been looking at the alpha code - HLS will only generate AAC so I'm not
on right lines but I think multiple suppliers multiple speeds is
involved because it happens more often with regional program - don't
know why.
I think check what is happening with transcoding by enabling
Davidg1 wrote:
Originally I was testing on a PC, running LMS with Squeezeplay; This
does not like Desmond! However, I've just tested with a SB Radio
connected to the same LMS and that plays the stream fine. I can even use
Squeezeplay to control the Radio and play it, but if I switch the same
PasTim wrote:
Indeed, but see
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?53229-Announce-BBCiPlayer-Plugin-(UK-only)p=813210viewfull=1#post813210
- the problem was on there as well.
A slightly off-the-wall thought, I'm on linux, as I believe are others
who said it is all OK. Are all the
Davidg1 wrote:
What player are you controlling? Hard those from those screenshots
Squeezelite on the PC itself. I.e. the local player plugin.
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Davidg1 wrote:
...consecutive errors go on and on and on
I can get the consecutive errors message with RTMP so it may be a second
problem.
A problem with patched plugin playing RTNP was that with multiple
suppliers (i.e Akakmai and limelight) supplying same stream , same
protocol and same
PasTim wrote:
Something to do with transcoding - the Touch is newer and none is
needed? But how can that be for just a very few streams?
It might be something as simple as padding bytes left in the stream that
the transcoder doesn't like but the touch/radio decoders are robust
enough to
bpa wrote:
Since only HLS is available try just HLS.
With preference for On Demand set to just HLS
Same result, Friday OK, Monday not OK, Today OK
LMS Version: 7.9
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2x Touch, 3x SB3
Davidg1 wrote:
Squeezelite doesn't work here either - same as Squeezeplay. Probably
depends on exact codecs installed. Weird it affects just this stream
though. Both working and non-working streams are reported by the LMS web
client as 128kbs CBR aac.
What O/S are you running LMS on?
LMS
bonze wrote:
Things I've tried:
LMS 7.9 running on a windows server.
Squeezeplay on Windows desktop doesn't work
Touch works
SB3 doesn't work
Hope that helps :p
Does windows use faad for aac transcoding? I suspect that that, or
whatever windows uses, doesn't like something in the
In case it helps here is the stream playing fine to an SB Radio:
Code:
[15-03-24 13:37:05.5957] Plugins::BBCiPlayer::iPlayer::scanUrl (26)
Davidg1 wrote:
Stephen Nolan fails too! (same looking errors in log)Was that for Monday
(23/03)? that fails for me too. (Squeezeplay on
Windows), although programmes from each side of it are OK
But Today (24/03) works OK, and last Friday(20/03) seems OK
LMS Version: 7.9
TranquilPC
bonze wrote:
HLS MP3 FlashAAC FlashMP3
Since only HLS is available try just HLS.
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I can get the consecutive errors message with RTMP so it may be a second
problem.
A problem with patched plugin playing RTNP was that with multiple
suppliers (i.e Akakmai and limelight) supplying same stream , same
protocol and same speed - plugin designated 2nd stream as MP3
Squeezelite doesn't work here either - same as Squeezeplay
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bpa wrote:
The patch is change to the Applet code that runs inside Radio / Touch.
The BBC change their URLs and this patch allows Radio.Touch to find the
Flash URL again. Unfortunately BBC are committed to turning off the
Flash URL at some time in the near future so this patch is buying
Windows 7 64-bit.
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PasTim wrote:
Squeezeplay on a PC running Windows?
Things I've tried:
LMS 7.9 running on a windows server.
Squeezeplay on Windows desktop doesn't work
Touch works
SB3 doesn't work
Hope that helps :p
LMS Version: 7.9
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2x Touch, 3x SB3
majones wrote:
Two RTMP streams, at 128 and 48kbps.
Not 4 stream 2 @ 48 and 2@ 128 2from Akamai and 2 from Limelight ?
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donmatter wrote:
Feel better it's not just me! Not sure I understand: Are you sure you
are trying the same programme?I was asking those who thought it worked if
they were trying the same
edition of the show, not you :).
utgg wrote:
No messages from the bbciplayer plugin - did you turn on 'debug' logging
for the plugin?
It sounds very strange that a 48kbps stream has been found - the HLS
master playlist that the alpha plugin finds for me only lists the usual
128kbps stream. It almost sounds like you are
utgg wrote:
No messages from the bbciplayer plugin - did you turn on 'debug' logging
for the plugin?
It sounds very strange that a 48kbps stream has been found - the HLS
master playlist that the alpha plugin finds for me only lists the usual
128kbps stream. It almost sounds like you are
bpa wrote:
For UK users what does this URL show,
http://open.live.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/5/select/version/2.0/vpid/b055jvk0/mediaset/pc
Two RTMP streams, at 128 and 48kbps.
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bonze wrote:
I'm not able to play it either with the alpha2 plugin (utgg fix)
Code:
[15-03-24 09:44:56.1286] Plugins::BBCiPlayer::iPlayer::scanUrl (26)
utgg wrote:
These logs show the first 3 chunks of HLS audio have been received
correctly but I think that 'consecutiveErrors: 1' means that something
downstream of the plugin doesn't like the aac adts stream that has been
decoded in the plugin from the mpeg2 ts. Looks to be repeatable at
PasTim wrote:
It plays for me, every time. This is from iPlayerExtras (1.8)
Code:
URL:
bpa wrote:
It looks like user is using RTMP.
For UK users what does this URL show,
http://open.live.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/5/select/version/2.0/vpid/b055jvk0/mediaset/pc
The problem sounds like the usual BBC XML feed problem which has
happened for years. In the past sometimes a WMA
Davidg1 wrote:
I was asking those who thought it worked if they were trying the same
edition of the show, not you :).
OK thanks.
Kit: 4 Duet players, 2 Controllers. LMS running on one Desktop, one
Laptop.
donmatter's
crkm wrote:
I'm seeing the same problem using BBCiPlayerExtras 1.8 or BBCiPlayer
1.2.14 (not the alpha version) With Extras the other Desmond Carrington
play ok.
I'm in UK, not far from Don, funnily enough!
crkm
Hm. I tried a few more times and now it is working some of the
djfake wrote:
I've had difficulties killing sq2u process, but sending kill -9 ends it.
Just upgraded to 0.2.0.1, will post logs tomorrow.
As promised.
17746
Note that playback was very stable, no serious issues. Sometimes, tracks
would skip or jump ahead, or just stop, but I could
bpa wrote:
Not 4 stream 2 @ 48 and 2@ 128 2from Akamai and 2 from Limelight ?
I see 4 streams:
2 @ 128kbps, one from each of Akamai and Limelight
2 @ 48 kbps, one from each of Akamai and Limelight
Touch, Meridian G92, Meridian G55, PMC OB1i speakers, HP Proliant
Microserver/Ubuntu,
JohnB wrote:
I see 4 streams:
2 @ 128kbps, one from each of Akamai and Limelight
2 @ 48 kbps, one from each of Akamai and Limelight
17747
I haven't looked at the at the code of the patchedplugin nor the alpha
verison but in WMA time - the plugin expected a choice between different
I'm not able to play it either with the alpha2 plugin (utgg fix)
Code:
[15-03-24 09:44:56.1286] Plugins::BBCiPlayer::iPlayer::scanUrl (26)
JohnB wrote:
I see 4 streams:
2 @ 128kbps, one from each of Akamai and Limelight
2 @ 48 kbps, one from each of Akamai and Limelight
17747
I can only see the 2 Limelight streams, no Akaimai.
17749
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utgg wrote:
These logs show the first 3 chunks of HLS audio have been received
correctly but I think that 'consecutiveErrors: 1' means that something
downstream of the plugin doesn't like the aac adts stream that has been
decoded in the plugin from the mpeg2 ts. Looks to be repeatable at
Davidg1 wrote:
That is exactly what happens when we use Squeezelite - if Squeezelite
decodes all is good, if LMS tries to decode to flac or MP3 it fails. We
are still unclear though if it is socketwrapper or faad at fault.
Sorry!
Touch, Meridian G92, Meridian G55, PMC OB1i speakers, HP
And this is what happens when no transcoding is needed (yeah, no
socketwrapper):
Code:
[15-03-24 16:01:12.2386]
Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::getConvertCommand2 (428) Matched: aac-aac
via: -
[15-03-24 16:01:12.2387] Slim::Player::Song::open (408) Transcoder:
If the problematic on-demand programme plays fine on a Touch (which
natively supports AAC) can't faad be tested by forcing LMS to transcode
to FLAC by setting the filetypes?
Touch, Meridian G92, Meridian G55, PMC OB1i speakers, HP Proliant
Microserver/Ubuntu, PC/Windows 7, iPad 4, iPeng,
JohnB wrote:
If the problematic on-demand programme plays fine on a Touch (which
natively supports AAC) can't faad be tested by forcing LMS to transcode
to FLAC by setting the filetypes?That is exactly what happens when we use
Squeezelite - if Squeezelite
decodes all is good, if LMS tries
Hey all
With regard current problems with the BBCiPlayer Plugin is anyone able
to instruct me how to install FFmpeg on Max2Play/Odroid?
Cheers, Paul
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Davidg1 wrote:
That is exactly what happens when we use Squeezelite - if Squeezelite
decodes all is good, if LMS tries to decode to flac or MP3 it fails. We
are still unclear though if it is socketwrapper or faad at fault.
On Windows, but OK on linux. For instance, I am decoding aac to pcm to
utgg wrote:
... Not sure where to go from here. I suppose try a debug build of this
version of faad...
Just built the lms modifed faad.exe under cygwin using the
buildme-linux.sh script, and it works properly. I'm not sure how the
distributed faad.exe is actually built though...
Davidg1 wrote:
I have done this for quite a while this afternoon. The logs are not
exactly easy reading to those of us just picking this up :)
On Windows the transcoding is done with socketwrapper , flac and faad -
the problem can be with any of these.
Can you play any other AAC streams or
bpa wrote:
Can you play the BBC stream in another player such as VLC
http://open.live.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/5/redir/version/2.0/vpid/b055dz87/mediaset/audio-syndication/proto/httpvlc
doesn't seem to like ANY of these streams (but it was a quick
check).
bpa wrote:
On Windows the transcoding is done with socketwrapper , flac and faad -
the problem can be with any of these.
Can you play any other AAC streams or other BBC Listen Again programs
and the same log looks OK ?Earlier I said its not flac, because I also
installed and tried LAME.
Davidg1 wrote:
vlc doesn't seem to like ANY of these streams (but it was a quick
check).Not something I've done before but it looks like vlc can only play the
live streams (.m3u8), not on-demand.
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bpa wrote:
On Windows the transcoding is done with socketwrapper , flac and faad -
the problem can be with any of these.
Can you play any other AAC streams or other BBC Listen Again programs
and the same log looks OK ?
I've had a bit of a breakthrough, I think. It's definitely a problem
Davidg1 wrote:
Earlier I said its not flac, because I also installed and tried LAME.
But, yeah, it could be that faad is being fed duff info
Can you play the BBC stream in another player such as VLC
That version doesn't have libfaad.dll. You can get from here:
http://www.rarewares.org/files/aac/libfaad2-2.7.zip. This is the version
I used and it works (no need to rename it). But of course, none of this
helps those with old hardware that needs transcoding support. We can
only hope stream like
Davidg1 wrote:
Looks like a bug in faad. I installed lame and that fails too. All
transcoding options fail. All use faad to decode AAC. Looking for some
different versions of faad!
If you find a new version you'll need to apply the LMS specific patches
and rebuild in order to support
Davidg1 wrote:
Ahhh! Probably too much for me!
A brief search only turned this up:
http://www.rarewares.org/files/aac/faad2-20100614.zip.
It's old, so I'm not too hopeful, but you never know! Tried just copying
into the folder and as bpa indicated it did not work. Someone else could
Hmm. Looked on Github and faad.dll hasn't been updated for 5 years.
Tried the previous version from 7.4 and still the same problem. So
either Paulin's version is really old or something else is going on.
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Ahhh! Probably too much for me!
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Hmm. Looked on Github and faad.dll hasn't been updated for 5 years.
Tried the previous version from 7.4 and still the same problem. So
either Paulin's version is really old or something else is going on.
Paulin is using squeezelite, which can consume aac natively if libfaad
is
utgg wrote:
Paulin is using squeezelite, which can consume aac natively if libfaad
is installed. That may be a different setup to those that have seen
failure using squeezelite as the local player.
So for those who are having problems using local player it may be worth
trying to use the
bonze wrote:
Actually I just tried the Stephen Nolan programmes on a Touch and got
the same result.
Monday doesn't work, Friday and Today were OK.
error looks different, has it actually got a valid stream?
Code:
[15-03-24 14:33:40.6056]
Davidg1 wrote:
Ahhh! Probably too much for me!
A brief search only turned this up:
http://www.rarewares.org/files/aac/faad2-20100614.zip.
It's old, so I'm not too hopeful, but you never know! Tried just copying
into the folder and as bpa indicated it did not work. Someone else could
For what it's worth, the Carrington show plays okay on Pure One Flow.
No idea what the format is, as I can't see how to get that info on the
radio.
Touch - Muse M50 EX TPA3123 T-Amp Mini - Acoustics Q10 speakers
Logitech Radio
Logitech UE Smart Radio
Raspberry Pi + Squeezeplug LMS +
How right you are! Had missed that. Maybe Paulin can tell us what
version he is running and/or upload a copy of his faad.dll for testing.
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utgg wrote:
Paulin is using squeezelite, which can consume aac natively if libfaad
is installed. That may be a different setup to those that have seen
failure using squeezelite as the local player.Yep, was on to that already :).
I can confirm Squeezelite works if libfaad.dll is installed and
utgg wrote:
So it's definitely something about the combination of this stream and
piping via stdin into the windows version of faad. Not sure where to go
from here. I suppose try a debug build of this version of faad...
A long time, I was involved in changing standard faad to accept input
mherger wrote:
Check settings/Information. The link to the scanner.log file actually
says where it is stored ;-).
--
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Got it! Right click on the link save link as... easy now I know!
scanner.log attached17756
I can confirm that Monday's Stephen Nolan fails even with local player
plugin (Squeezelite WITH libfaad2.dll), so that is a different problem.
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Many thanks!!
Works fine now on my Windows Home Server 2011 installation.
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Davidg1 wrote:
Aha...and it's all clear :)
The local player plugin installs libfaad2.dll along with Squeezelite.
The version I tried (which I got direct from
https://code.google.com/p/squeezelite/) requires you to install it
separately. Squeezeplay just doesn't support aac decoding.
So
Davidg1 wrote:
Yep, it may be there somewhere, but in a quick search of GitHub I
couldn't find it - just an updated binary. The trouble is, even if we
find the patch, I'm not sure how easy it would be to apply to a
different version of faad - the source of the pre-patched or, I think,
By all accounts, Dolby are the aac licensing authority.
http://faac.sourceforge.net/oldsite/download.php
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Since the version of faad2.exe 'here'
(http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?53229-Announce-BBCiPlayer-Plugin-(UK-only)p=813341viewfull=1#post813341)
post dates the DLL we know works with Squeezelite, there is a fair
chance it might work with LMS if someone can rebuild it with the LMS
Aha...and it's all clear :)
The local player plugin installs libfaad2.dll along with Squeezelite.
The version I tried (which I got direct from
https://code.google.com/p/squeezelite/) requires you to install it
separately.
So it's clear, faad.exe in LMS is the problem. Looks hard to fix. So
Many thanks for clarfying this ..perfect explanation !!!
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@Michael
At which point does the list of exclusions from Importer.pm do it's
magic when working with Qobuz? And does it apply to the track name or
the Album as well?
I'm asking because my hacked classical mixing is working pretty
perfectly, looking up composer instead of artist, but I'd like to
Davidg1 wrote:
Squeezelite doe snot come with libfaad.dll. You can get from here:
http://www.rarewares.org/files/aac/libfaad2-2.7.zip. This is the version
I used and it works (no need to rename it). But of course, none of this
helps those with old hardware that needs transcoding support. We
PaulinPosset wrote:
As far as I'm aware I have a standard installation.
OS Windows 7 Pro
LMS 7.8.1 - 1426671206 running 1.3.1 aplha2 of iPlayer (with utgg HLS.pm
mod - thanks!:)) and iPlayer Extras version 1.8
Local player version 1.6.5 plugin installed.
Although I can play the
Davidg1 wrote:
Can you look in your Squeezelite folder and see if you have libfaad.dll
or libfaad2.dll?
libfaad2.dll
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Davidg1 wrote:
I can confirm that Monday's Stephen Nolan fails even with local player
plugin (Squeezelite WITH libfaad2.dll) and a SB Radio, so that is a
different problem.
I can also confirm that this program fails on linux with squeezelite
(local or remote on linux), and on my Touch. The
bpa wrote:
It was originally developed by audiocoding
see http://www.audiocoding.com/
Also I think problem is nothing to do with faad but handling of
iplayer:// url when there is a problem with BBC MS URLThis is good news if
true. But if so, why does it work when Squeezelite
has
Davidg1 wrote:
This is good news if true. But if so, why does it work when Squeezelite
has libfaad2.dll and the player does the decoding, but fails if faad.exe
has to do it?
I am outside the UK and I can play the Carrington stream on a Boom and
faad is doing the decoding. This is on linux
BTW, I'm not trying to worry people here. The licensing may not be an
issue at all. Logitech may have already paid for LMS and patching, from
that point of view, may not be a problem. I'm just saying that because
faad.exe is a 3rd party decoder provided under licence it makes things
trickier,
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