> The mymediaalexa Alexa skill has suddenly developed the capability to
> play my echo speaker and sub as a pair. I asked the developer and he
> hadn't done anything so it looks to be an enabling of functionality done
> at Amazon's end, rolling out what has been available to the big services
> to
As the skill-author, I won't answer all your questions as I may come
across as biased. However, here are a few pointers:
- Once set up, you can totally forget about it. I use mine on a daily
basis and have not touched the setup once since September 2019.
- You can initially play with ngro
vinu.cool wrote:
> the skill is missing in amazon india. Kindly release in alexa.amazon.in
Amazon.in does not allow skills that have in-skill subscriptions, so
thats unfortunately not possible.
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snoopy86 wrote:
> Hi,
>
> could we choose different wake word like "tell squeezebox to do...",
> "tell player to do..."
That's not supported by Amazon. Each skill can have one invocation name
only.
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Yes, that's correct. You'll get a new ngrok subdomain when you do this
as it will be a new tunnel, so you will have to re-link the skill. Help
is at https://smartskills.tech/mediaserver/setuphelp.html
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> Does the Alexa Multi-Room Music (MRM) feature have any relevance?
No, because when using MRM you tell Alexa what group to play on by name.
Theres no way for a skill to retrieve an MRM group name though.
philchillbill'
> "Streaming" is a great feature, but it doesn't seem to support my Echo
> Sub when paired with an Echo speaker. Actually, it seems that very few
> skills do support the Echo Sub, and I don't know whether this is a ploy
> by Amazon to steer people towards those skills that do (Amazon Music,
> Spo
Paul Webster wrote:
> A somewhat niche request ...
> A set-up with more than one base (e.g. home / work / holiday villa on
> Mustique)
>
> Amazon Echo(s) in each location - all tied to the same Amazon account.
> Separate LMS installations - one in each base.
>
> Could there be a way for the s
I've noticed that some people's accounts auto-discover every few hours
or so, while others apparently never do. What's the logic there? I also
observed this morning that all my players were shown duplicated in the
Alexa app, as Amazon dug up old historical data for my account from
somewhere deep
The beta code has now been posted to the live LMS-lite skill. Transition
should be seamless but if not then 'Alexa, discover devices'. If you see
duplicates of your LMS players in your Alexa app or in the web portal,
delete them and re-discover. This should only be necessary once.
People who wer
I've reached the conclusion that this simply must be a bug somewhere in
the Amazon back-end. I'll go live anyway with the newer code as it will
allow scaling to 2^256 potential Squeezeboxes across all users :cool:
and I've added a few extra standard error types so that you can tell the
difference
dunk wrote:
> new amazon/alexa account successfully linked via ngrok shows a very
> short request result with no player found29233
That's correct. I now precede actual player discovery by a quick query
of your server version [version,?] so I can populate the new Amazon
addidionalAttributes obje
Paul Webster wrote:
>
> No bad (including no hidden) characters in it as far as I (or a messy
> regex - [ a-zA-Z0-9@,\.\-\x0a\x0d"\:\{\}\[\]\_éç]* ) could see.
> The only 2 sort of special ones were the accented ones in the French
> translations of a couple of fields (see end of the regex) - but
I'm starting to wonder if the whole MAC address thing was a misleading
train of thought. I have noticed in the past that Amazon will not eat
their own JSON, although not strictly related to discovery as such. If
you write a skill manifest in JSON and upload the skill, you can
download from Amazon
Paul Webster wrote:
> Odd ... just initiated another discover - by voice this time (previous
> was within the workflow of enabling the skill) ... and now I do have my
> players listed again.
So it does seem related to account history rather than to the skill
code. In all honesty, there's no sub
Paul Webster wrote:
> You might have missed my later edit
>
> "I might be reading too much into it though ... because Philippe's
> "Group Player" starts 02:
> which also sets that bit and I did not remove that from LMS.
>
> Anyway - scope to experiment ..."
Yep, missed it. Would be worth disa
Paul Webster wrote:
> I removed Squeeze* from Alexa ... and ran discover again ... and again
> it said that it did not find anything BUT my players were back (without
> Squeeze in front).
> I tried one (Office) and it worked fine.
>
> The JSON from Skill to Alexa has a macAddress field ... so I
Paul Webster wrote:
> Aha ... I just ran another Discover and I now have devices listed
> even though Alexa said that nothing new was found.
>
> I had cleaned out from LMS the devices that don't really exist AND some
> with MAC addresses that started AA:AA
>
> The AA:AA ones were, I think
Paul Webster wrote:
> I currently removing some players from LMS that I know do not exist any
> more - just in case one of them made something strange happen.
Ok, I can also try something for you. I can add something to all the
player names so that they become something that was not found befor
Paul Webster wrote:
> Tried it ... but devices still not found here.
> I ran discover twice.
> First time I don't think I was contacted - but it is possible that I
> made a mistake during account linking.
> So I went through linking again saw a connection come in during
> discovery.
Damn. It wo
dunk wrote:
> can i try this beta as well?
Sure, PM me with the email address for your Amazon Alexa account.
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Paul Webster wrote:
> That is what I have been doing (but not clearing them all away as I do
> not want to risk losing my real heating and lights).
I have a beta skill that takes the MAC address totally out of the
equation in defining endpointId. For the hell of it, it also populates
the additi
Ludopi wrote:
> Bazinga!!! It works !
> My LMS-Lite French skill is setup ok, and Alexa recognize my
> piCorePlayer squeezebox.
> I cannot find the list of available commands in French, but haven't
> search much, especially to ask for favorites.
> Big thanks Phil, for the hard work you put in th
dunk wrote:
> i forgot everything using alexa in a browser then rediscovered, still
> didnt find any players at all as the squeezelite players are enabled so
> the problem is still there with a 'cleared out' alexa account
I've long suspected that Amazon does not truly forget everything when
you
Paul Webster wrote:
>
> Do you keep a list of the discovered players?
>
No I don't because that's all administered by Amazon and relates to
people's Alexa accounts. That's why it only affects some people and not
others - they have (apparently) some unseen clutter built up in their
accounts. I
Paul Webster wrote:
>
> I removed lots of Alexa devices that had been discovered / published via
> other skills but had a name clash (*) ... just in case ... but that did
> not help either.
>
I think this whole issue may actually be related to duplicate
friendlyNames being re-created when aut
Ludopi wrote:
> Ready when you are !
Ok, give it a try now !
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philchillbill wrote:
> There's still no progress on the sporadic during
> account linking which a tiny minority of people experience but which is
> rather persistent when it rears its ugly head. From @Ludopi's feedback,
> the Amazon redirect URL visible in a browser but n
Paul Webster wrote:
> Could you send me a copy of the json response for mine to see if I can
> spot anything?
> Perhaps something related to other stuff I have detected in Alexa by
> other skills.
>
> e.g. does Alexa have any problems with devices from different skills
> that have the same name
dunk wrote:
> the only skills I have enabled are your full lms skill and 1home
> (formerly voxior) which controls my loxone installation - very few
> devices are enabled with the voxior (only 19) so not much at all
>
> do you need to full scan response from ngrok or can you already see
> that?
Paul Webster wrote:
> I just tried here and devices not discovered.
Yes, I can see the 16 players in the log. And the JSON I'm returning for
you is no different to anybody else's JSON. It's a mystery why this
works for some and not for others, using exactly the same codebase.
Paul Webster wrote:
> I found that list in a 2016 blog post from Amazon about device
> discovery
>
> https://developer.amazon.com/blogs/alexa/post/Tx480XF5QCA6IN/managing-device-discovery-for-your-alexa-smart-home-skill
Aha, that's the old v2 interface where they used applianceId instead of
en
castalla wrote:
> I have no problem with squeezelite players being listed or controlled
> ... just sayin'
Neither do I with my squeezelite players, nor do any of the other skill
users (almost everybody has a few squeezelites). That's why this one is
so weird. It seems to be related to his overa
Paul Webster wrote:
> Regarding setups with Squeezelite (or similar software players) not
> being discovered ...
>
> Are there some fields in the response to Amazon from the discovery phase
> that are not present or empty when the player is not a regular hardware
> player?
> I ask because the A
dunk wrote:
> yes i tested it with all the squeezelite players enabled - as before it
> discovers all the real logitech hardware players without problems if all
> the squeezelite players are disabled but even a single squeezelite
> player stops the whole scan
This is so strange. There's absolut
There's still no progress on the sporadic during
account linking which a tiny minority of people experience but which is
rather persistent when it rears its ugly head. From @Ludopi's feedback,
the Amazon redirect URL visible in a browser but not in the Alexa app is
giving the failure reason as
dunk wrote:
> i disabled the skill, forgot all devices in alexa, re-enabled/linked the
> skill and rescan - no lms devices found at all unfortunately
I presume because you switched back on the dodgy players again? If
they're off, the rest should still be discoverable. Any of them being on
cause
dunk wrote:
> thanks but unfortunately it still didnt work
Maybe disabling the skill and re-enabling would help, given that that
will clear out all your old account data.
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Ludopi wrote:
> Thanks for being so reactive :)
> Yet, still Internal failure this morning, trying to add French LMS-Lite
> for Alexa echo.
> I am a bit of a geek, and willing to help.
> Let me know if I can do anything to provide more info.
> Wireshark record, or try a basic Home skill of my own
dunk wrote:
> thanks for the update,
>
> unfortunately the squeezelite players didnt show up - i tried a couple
> of times and checked the ngrok output (they are visible and running
> again)
OK, I changed the reported 'connections' MAC address too. It's supposed
to be optional but who knows w
Ludopi wrote:
> Still no joy. Couldn't try for long, but exiting the app after 'Internal
> Failure', to start scanning by Alexa, couldn't find anything.
> Skill still not activated, and no new device discovered by Alexa.
>
> Envoyé de mon Redmi 3S en utilisant Tapatalk
That must be very frustra
dunk wrote:
> unfortunately the mac addressess for the virtual players are assigned by
> the musicserver4lox server and i cant change them - pity!
OK, the modified discovery code is live and should now handle
non-Logitech players automatically. Don't disable or re-link or
whatever, just say "Al
dunk wrote:
> the software players are powered down and dont appear in the user or
> settings ui of lms
>
> just ran another scan and all the real players have now showed up -
> thanks, i must have run the alexa scan too soon after stopping the
> virtual players
>
> perhaps your proposed softwa
dunk wrote:
> when i say turned off, they are powered down and dont appear in the LMS
> at all
Look in :4040 at the ngrok log. Theyre still showing, which means the
skill is still discovering them. Powered down players dont disappear
from LMS.
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dunk wrote:
> i turned off all the squeezelite players (musicserver4lox) and
> rescanned - it still didnt find a single player!
>
> where is the locale located? the amazon account has the primary address
> in the uk which is correct
Turning them off is not the solution as they are still disco
Ludopi wrote:
> Hi,
> I am failing installing LMS-Lite skills to my French Alexa :
>
> Skill setup is OK : "Your LMS server (v7.9.2) responded correctly. Go
> ahead and submit!"
> But after submitting : layla.amazon.com issues an
>
> Using ngrok. PiCorePlayer v6 on RPi4. Alexa Echo v2. Freeb
There was an interesting error in the logs for a US user this morning:
402 Payment Required. It was returned by ngrok and apparently means that
a subscription to ngrok needs extending (I guess somebody with a paid
tunnel was not on auto-renewal). There is of course no premeditated
Amazon smart ho
dunk wrote:
> no faked mac addresses that i know of and nothing but characters and -
>
> cant be the size of the json, with 16 players it returns 4861 bytes
> according to the ngrok :4040 portal
>
> 8 of the players are copies of squeezelite though
The discovery JSON I return is much much bi
dunk wrote:
> thanks for the comments
>
> ive tried the following:
>
> logged out of the account - logged in on another computer
> i removed 2 of the players and searched - nothing found at all
> forgot all devices and searched - just the existing devices but no LMS
> players
>
> :confused:
dunk wrote:
> i cant get the lite to find any players on my system
>
> the tunnel is up and the full blown version works
> the ngrok inspection window shows the query found 20 players, but none
> show up in a browser or the alexa app - ive logged out of both, relogged
> in and searched again, it
Pour nos amis francophones...
LMS-lite is now available in *French *for both the fr-FR (France) and
fr-CA (Canada) locales.
Thanks to DrMacabre for translating the skill store description at
https://www.amazon.fr/smartskills-tech-LMS-lite/dp/B083H9JTJY/.
Thanks to Google translate for prepari
Paul Webster wrote:
> I have had this working with the free ngrok service in the early days of
> this Skill ... but always fancied trying to get it working using nginx
> so that I did not have to re-do linking on restarting ngrok (wasn't
> convinced I would use it enough to justify paying for ngr
dclbas wrote:
> For my situation, I use both multiple LMS Squeezebox radios in different
> rooms and a Touch hooked into my stereo receiver, so I would just
> command via Alexa to your Mediaserver skill to request songs or albums
> from Spotty just like how you already have it enabled just for p
danette5757 wrote:
> yes I understand what ou are saying... your skill allow controlling LMS
> server. This is not really what I'm looking for but anyway thanks fo the
> explanations!
I guess I have no clue what you want. You mention Alexa processing
commands and your audio equipment producing
dbinder101 wrote:
> I finally figured it out (with your help!). When you had said that LMS
> is reporting a clean install with no players, I started poking around
> and saw in the server "Player" tab that it also showed no players. Then
> I realized that, because I have 2 LMS servers that I go b
danette5757 wrote:
> Bluetooth is ok but not great regarding sound quality. I would much
> prefer the other way around ie using alexa devices for voice command and
> outputing music straight from my LMS device so no bluetooth "cooking"
> (FLAC/AAC/MP3 -> SBC -> WAV) before feeding my audiophile D
That does look ok in the ngrok dashboard. Nevertheless, the skill is not
getting a usable response from LMS. What version of LMS do you have and
what hardware does it run on? Can you kill this ngrok and setup a new
tunnel and then disable and re-enable the skill again and see if that
helps? If yo
danette5757 wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> do you think it will be possible at some point to enable LMS end point
> devices as ALEXA speakers ?
> That would allow seamless music output through LMS devices (at home 2
> RADIO, one TOUCH and 1 RP3 with PICOREPLAYER and a 7" touchscreen) using
> ALEXA, like
dbinder101 wrote:
> Tried all the suggestions you made:
> > >
- Logged out and back in from account on app
- uninstalled and reinstalled app
- From within browser, did not appear and also pressed "Discover
> devices"
- Just for fun, gave the command "Alexa, discover devices" on my
dbinder101 wrote:
> I was able to get MediaServer to work a few weeks ago, but when I linked
> LMS-lite successfully and then told Alexa to discover devices, it said
> it didn't find any new devices. So I then disabled MediaServer and
> LMS-lite, thinking maybe there is some sort of conflict. I t
kartunes wrote:
> Why is this not available through Amazon Canada? I see that LMS-lite
> is.
>
> It would be great to have here as well.
Would love to oblige, but Amazon does not support subscriptions in
Canada. See
https://developer.amazon.com/en-US/docs/alexa/in-skill-purchase/isp-language-d
I've just added to the online help a mention that if your tunnels are
auto-expiring after 8 hours, it's because you didn't sign up for a
(free) account at ngrok.com.
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Ludopi wrote:
> French anyone?
The problem is that Alexa.Speaker is not yet available in French. All
the other interfaces used in the skill are...
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tushma wrote:
> Is there a year subscription or only monthly?
Only monthly
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The dashboard does not show any subscriptions ended. Were you still in
the trial period?
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slartibartfast wrote:
> I just tried creating s group containing my Touch and amplifier and
> turning off the group works. I also added the Touch to my Goodnight
> routine alongside the amplifier and some lights and that also works.
> This is what I expected to be possible when Amazon allowed sk
slartibartfast wrote:
> I disabled the Media Server skill then enabled and linked it. Then I
> tried to enable LMS-lite and it worked. No idea why. [emoji3]
>
> Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk
Great! Trust me, the notions of 'no idea why' and 'Amazon' fit together
far more often than one
PHAZBLADE wrote:
> Hi, re-enabled the skill on Amazon, then
>
>
> tried this "Alexa, tell Media Server to cancel my subscription"
>
> Got reply, I dont know that one, so cant cancel that way
>
>
> Tried this "Alexa, open Media Server.
> Cancel my subscription."
>
> The skill tells me all ab
PHAZBLADE wrote:
> Hi - thanks for the info
>
> I actually disabled the skill in my Amazon Account
>
> Does that cancel the Subs ?
It should, yes. If you want to double-check, re-enable the skill, ask to
cancel the subscription explicitly, then disable the skill. During
cancellation you will
PHAZBLADE wrote:
> Had a try with this got the account linked and all that, found that the
> deeper you went into my Library the more flakey it got
>
> Simple commands worked just fine
>
> Anyhow, not for me
>
> Tried to unsubscribe, and whatever I tried "media server cant help you
> with tha
I doubt it, honestly. But it may be worth seeing if that's it. There are
no errors at all in the logs and I just disabled and re-enabled myself
to check and that went fine so the oauth server is functioning.
philchillbill'
slartibartfast wrote:
> Tried lots of times. It validates OK but Submit doesn't work.
>
> Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk
It should work fine. Amazon tested it hundreds of times during
certification with the same credential as for MediaServer. You dont
have an extra / in the path this t
Nothing I can do about that. Try again. Skill linking can be hit and
miss at times.
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david_f1976 wrote:
> Just tried the command a few times so that might give you something to
> work with.
Yep, just saw it right now - thanks. It's being returned as a 'link'
Code:
{
text: 'Football Daily',
actions: [Object],
addAction: 'go',
'icon-id': 'htt
[ . ]
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david_f1976 wrote:
> Hi Phil,
>
> Just had a chance to try this after the holidays. Unfortunately no
> success so far. The response comes back, you do have a folder named
> , it it has no entry numbered 1.
>
> David
Yep, I can see that happening in the logs. It's because whatever items
Paul Webster wrote:
> Maybe wait and see what comes with mherger's new integrated music
> sources capability.
I want, I want ! [emoji851]
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dclbas wrote:
> What about limiting it to just items in "Your Library" such as chosen
> albums or songs?
I'll play with it and see how much work it would be. I've not used that
functionality in Spotty myself but I guess it's also just all available
via the web-GUI.
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dclbas wrote:
> So does this prevent you from issuing commands within MediaServer? The
> reason I would like to do this is to be able to play Spotify from my
> Squeezeboxes and Touch using Alexa voice commands. - Thanks
It doesnt prevent but it seems like a lot of work for nothing. Playing
pla
dclbas wrote:
> Will it be possible to directly request albums or songs from my Spotify
> library linked from Spotty?
>
> Thanks
No, because Spotify already has an Alexa skill that can handle that
directly.
philchillb
chaug wrote:
> Would you be willing to consider a cheaper subscription plan for people
> who oy occasionally want to use Alexa to control their music? Perhaps a
> "pay-per-command" plan or a 1 EUR plan that includes a certain number of
> commands?
I can take a loot at it, sure, but it's not hig
slartibartfast wrote:
> I tried the curl command again just now and this time it worked.
> Yesterday I was trying it without using the Authtoken so that seems to
> be the only difference. The command I used to start ngrok was
> ngrok http -inspect=false -auth "user:password" 9000 > /dev/null 2>&
slartibartfast wrote:
> Well I got it working but not using the commands in the tutorial. I
> couldn't see any reference to the Authtoken in the instructions but once
> I had specified my Authtoken to ngrok I was able to see my tunnels in
> the ngrok dashboard. The curl command in the instructio
slartibartfast wrote:
> I just tried playing an album from my library and the skill played a
> track from the album but from Spotify.
>
> Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk
Check the online docs for the exact wording of the commands.
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slartibartfast wrote:
> If I ask the skill to play the song "Money" by Pink Floyd it queues 21
> versions of it.
>
> Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk
Correct. Itll queue as many as you have on your library.
philch
wget should do it. I forget the syntax bu you can google it.
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slartibartfast wrote:
> I need to install ngrok to a new Pi4 server and cannot remember how to
> download ngrok to the Pi. Can someone please remind me?
Go to ngrok.com and choose download. Then move the file to the correct
system directory on the pi so as not to have to do ./ngrok.
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raglencross wrote:
> Does this skill work with chromecast and airplay players with Philippe's
> bridge plugins installed on LMS? I have your skill working on a
> Raspberry Pi4 and it does list the chromecast/airplay devices, but I
> want to make sure they will work before I subscribe. I ask bec
rederikus wrote:
> Alexa, stop
> Alexa, Pause
> Alexa, terminate
> Alexa, stop stream
> Alexa, stop streaming
> Alexa, stop playing
> Alexa, stop play
> Alexa, stop playing on [Player] // this did not work and I did not
> expect it to.
> Alexa, open Media Server
> stop (all of the above)
>
> No
castalla wrote:
> For ages, the request to discover setup has just listed my player names.
> Suddenly, it lists names and then a long explanation about using room
> names. No names have changed for weeks.
You didn't change anything, I did. I decided to add a little verbal
cautioning so that pe
rederikus wrote:
> That is settled then. I just won;t use the skill for streaming Pandora
> on the Echos.
>
> Highly likely that I was streaming Jethro Tull. It is one of my
> favourites and I'm in Charlotte NC which is East Coast. I was using the
> favourite numbers to avoid utterance conf
rederikus wrote:
> Does the service error give a notification 'cuz I did not get one?
>
> Can you see any logs from y usage? If so maybe that will help. I still
> think this skill is great. This little thing is the last 10%
I can see in the logs that the AMAZON.Pause intent is coming throug
rederikus wrote:
> "Alexa, pause." does not work. I also tried "Alexa, stop playback."
> Unplugging is the only way to stop it. Works every time...
Ive had that with the Echo Dot 3 a few times and once with a Show 2.
Service error with Alexa. Goes away after a few hours.
-
rederikus wrote:
> Most odd. This is definitely not working. MS will not stream my
> favorites (all Pandora stations). It shows that it is streaming on the
> Echo Show screen but no sound. This works fine using Play for LMS
> devices.
>
> Streaming local media to an Echo can only be stoppe
rederikus wrote:
> @philchillbill, I am having a little trouble Streaming. I have two Echo
> Show 5s. I give the command, "Alexa, open Media Server.", and then
> "Stream some Jazz on Kitchen.", and it plays. Now I cannot stop the
> Stream. Opening Media Se
rederikus wrote:
> This is a mighty skill indeed. Now I have it working as philchillbill
> intended, it is amazing. My only complaint is that when I say, "Alexa,
> Ask Media Server...", I regularly get an explanation of that a
> restaurant waiter does for a job. This is
castalla wrote:
> Right now the upload was 2.3
And that's Mbits and not Mbytes? Brings me back to 1997... :cool: Any
idea how consistent it is / how often it drops?
As they say, three wrongs don't make a right. Having slow internet *and*
a slow LMS machine *and* a slow-ish ngrok host machine
castalla wrote:
> !!!
>
> Because it's so flaky, I often check to see if it's working at all using
> the discover command.
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> So, I'm reluctant to buy another pi unless I can be sure the issue isn't
> my internet ... at the moment the ookla speed test gives 6.1 Mbps
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