bpa wrote:
> Most of the suggestion are irrelevant as NpordVPN thinkyou are using a
> browser.
>
> Tell them you are using a dedicated DASH media player. No cache, no
> incognito mode, no location active, no cybersec stuff.
> DNS is same as PC. No webRTC. Do their request for IP address and
>
agbagb wrote:
> I'm away from home for a few days, so can't try out the options
> suggested by NordVPN: but here they are anyway -
>
>
> NordVPN (NordVPN)
>
> Sep 25, 18:07 EEST
> Hello,
>
> Thank you for your letter.
>
> If you are still unable to access it,
agbagb wrote:
> Done: thanks. Let's see what happens.
I'm away from home for a few days, so can't try out the options
suggested by NordVPN: but here they are anyway -
NordVPN (NordVPN)
Sep 25, 18:07 EEST
Hello,
Thank you for your letter.
If you are still unable
bpa wrote:
> I'm a believer in simple messages.
>
> Just ask nordVPN why does this UK BBC Radio three URL fail
> http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/dash/uk/dash_full/ak/bbc_radio_three.mpd
>
> and this UK BBC Radio three work
>
>
agbagb wrote:
> As I'm a long-term NordVPN business customer (and the OP in this
> thread), I'd be happy to do this. However, I'm far from a technical
> expert!!! If anyone would like to give me the text of exactly what I
> should say in a Support / Bug Ticket, I'll let them know.
I'm a
bpa wrote:
> The akamai UK feed fails - denoted by the "ak"
>
>
> The Limelight Networks UK feeds succceeds - denoted by "llnw"
>
>
> Not sure how this feed is provided - MP3 sometime uses a different CDN
>
>
>
> I think above shows that BBC can block non UK use of UK akamai feeds but
castalla wrote:
> Agreed. Wih the kodi plugin you can specify the CDN - so a test is easy
> - akamai either works or it doesn't!
IIRC In one my of 1.5.* test version I had such a setting but nobody saw
the need or wanted it. I added the "alt CN" menus as an alterntaive
although there is no
bpa wrote:
> What is odd is the OP is able to use BBCiPlayer TV so perhaps behind the
> scene the iPlayer tries both CDNs and goes with the one that works -
> only way to prove that would be to examine network traffic which is too
> hard to describe remotely.
Agreed. Wih the kodi plugin you
castalla wrote:
> Akamai video feeds on iPlayer (Kodi plugin) are often blocked also - FYI
What is odd is the OP is able to use BBCiPlayer TV so perhaps behind the
scene the iPlayer tries both CDNs and goes with the one that works -
only way to prove that would be to examine network traffic
bpa wrote:
> The akamai UK feed fails - denoted by the "ak"
>
>
> The Limelight Networks UK feeds succceeds - denoted by "llnw"
>
>
> Not sure how this feed is provided - MP3 sometime uses a different CDN
>
>
>
> I think above shows that BBC can block non UK use of UK akamai feeds but
The akamai UK feed fails - denoted by the "ak"
>
> R3 BBCiplayer - With VPN **Not Working** (as before)
>
bpa wrote:
> I wonder if this was a tweak done in 1.5.4. Anyhow you should upgrade
> to V1.6.0 (available last night) to fix latest BBC problem which broke
> "Listen Again".
>
> Not the Settings - the normal Home/Radio/BBCiPlayer menu whose top two
> entries are "Listen Live" and "Listen Live
agbagb wrote:
> OK - thanks, as ever.
>
> An oddity: LMS > SETTINGS > PLUGINS
>
> has something I have never seen before. Right down at the bottom of the
> page, between the last of the unchecked OTHER THIRD PARTY PLUGINS and
> UPDATE PLUGINS are two new lines,
>
> bpa - BBCiPlayer with
bpa wrote:
> I wonder if this was a tweak done in 1.5.4. Anyhow you should upgrade
> to V1.6.0 (available last night) to fix latest BBC problem which broke
> "Listen Again".
>
> Not the Settings - the normal Home/Radio/BBCiPlayer menu whose top two
> entries are "Listen Live" and "Listen Live
agbagb wrote:
> I'm not seeing that option in the LMS BBC iPlayer menus
>
> From LMS, I've also tried >SETTINGS > PLUGINS > BBC iPLAYER > but I'm
> not seeing an > alt CDN option (the last line being > BUFFER FULLNESS
> THRESHOLD.)
>
> What am I failing to see?
I wonder if this was a
agbagb wrote:
> I'm not seeing that option in the LMS BBC iPlayer menus
>
> From LMS, I've also tried >SETTINGS > PLUGINS > BBC iPLAYER > but I'm
> not seeing an > alt CDN option (the last line being > BUFFER FULLNESS
> THRESHOLD.)
>
> What am I failing to see?
My apologies: found it!
agbagb wrote:
> Thanks for taking the time for looking at it all! Puzzling. Two
> things:
>
> - The VPN being blocked is odd (reminder: I use NordVPN; I'll try and
> test a different one in due course). Simultaneously with running the
> VPN-enabled radio tests, I was downloading the latest
bpa wrote:
> Logs show the VPN is being blocked by BBC. The plugin works OK when
> playing a non UK stream. For completeness you could try the alternate
> CDN Limelight instead of akamai via the "listen Live alt CDN" menu.
>
> The log also show very poor performance of the playing BBC link
agbagb wrote:
> And here are the error logs relating to the iPlayer efforts above.
Logs show the VPN is being blocked by BBC. The plugin works OK when
playing a non UK stream. For completeness you could try the alternate
CDN Limelight instead of akamai via the "listen Live alt CDN" menu.
The
agbagb wrote:
> As you noted above, it's difficult to reproduce the "fault" without
> ready access to know region-restricted streams.
>
>
> ak/bbc_radio_three.mpd=http://radio-service-information.api.bbci.co.uk/logos/bbc_radio_three/600x600.png=fm/ce1/c203/09100=bbc_radio_three
bpa wrote:
> I understand that you tried the LMS BBC App which is MP3 but without
> trying both DASH non-UK stream and DASH UK stream to be compared - I
> cannot characterise the problem. The plugin works for many others - so
> your issue seems to be something to do with VPN. The fact that MP3
ian_heys wrote:
> I noticed this article yesterday:
>
> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-45499784
>
> There is a slightly worrying use of the term compression towards the end
> of the article.
>
> The same effect is apparent on BBC iPlayer Radio Live Streams when the
> time signal pips
I noticed this article yesterday:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-45499784
There is a slightly worrying use of the term compression towards the end
of the article.
The same effect is apparent on BBC iPlayer Radio Live Streams when the
time signal pips are heard about 35 - 40 seconds
agbagb wrote:
> And, just to follow up on something specific that I'd said earlier:
>
> "B) Second, trying the region-restricted sports commentaries on R4LW
> - using NordVPN: LMS BBC App worked for R4LW"
>
> I did that several times, keeping careful notes! With the NordVPN
> active, there
bpa wrote:
> Your 2 logs of with and without VPN are both using the UK only URLs - I
> cannot see any attempt to use non-UK streams.
>
> The error is as expected
> >
Code:
> >
> [18-09-11 18:32:21.6883] Plugins::BBCiPlayer::DASH::__ANON__ (744) Failed
URL:
bpa wrote:
> Your 2 logs of with and without VPN are both using the UK only URLs - I
> cannot see any attempt to use non-UK streams.
>
> The error is as expected
> >
Code:
> >
> [18-09-11 18:32:21.6883] Plugins::BBCiPlayer::DASH::__ANON__ (744) Failed
URL:
Your 2 logs of with and without VPN are both using the UK only URLs - I
cannot see any attempt to use non-UK streams.
The error is as expected
Code:
[18-09-11 18:32:21.6883] Plugins::BBCiPlayer::DASH::__ANON__ (744) Failed
URL:
bpa wrote:
> If there are significant errors, the plugin will produce error mesages
> in the log file without any additional changes.
>
> To get the plugin to produce additional info, you set the log control
> plugin.bbciplayer and plugin.bbciplayer.dash to INFO. The player.source
> can be
bpa wrote:
> To check whether problem is LMS or network. You can test BBC DASH
> stream using BBC Web pages as long as browser is setup NOT to use Flash
> - see http://www.bbc.co.uk/html5 . When BBC web pages are setup to use
> HTML5 they are using DASH for video and audio.
>
> Use a
To check whether problem is LMS or network. You can test BBC DASH
stream using BBC Web pages as long as browser is setup NOT to use Flash
- see http://www.bbc.co.uk/html5 . When BBC web pages are setup to use
HTML5 they are using DASH for video and audio.
Use a Browser (I prefer
bpa wrote:
> The baseline to get working is a live non UK playing "normal" programs
> (e.g. R2 or R3) using DASH. Once that is working then problems brought
> by restrictions/geo locking can be isolated.
Got it. Will do.
AGB
Logitech Media Server Version: 7.7.6 - 1521467459 @ Thu Mar 29
agbagb wrote:
> Hey, no problem! You are quite generous enough with your time anyway!
> I'll come at the problems several ways today, and log them all. Today
> is a good day, as assorted access routes to the Radio4 LW stream will be
> region-restricted, as it's live sports commentary. So I
bpa wrote:
> If there are significant errors, the plugin will produce error mesages
> in the log file without any additional changes.
>
> To get the plugin to produce additional info, you set the log control
> plugin.bbciplayer and plugin.bbciplayer.dash to INFO. The player.source
> can be
agbagb wrote:
> So, I shall have time later today to go through all this thoroughly.
> But a question before I get too far, about Logging. Under LOGGING>
> PLEASE SELECT LOG SET which option should I choose?
>
> And, I've updated the LMS Server itself to the latest public version.
If there
bpa wrote:
> Fogot to add - once changed to DASH please try to play a live non UK
> sttaion and then check if there are any error or warning messages from
> Plugin::BBCiPlayer in log file
So, I shall have time later today to go through all this thoroughly.
But a question before I get too far,
Fogot to add - once changed to DASH please try to play a live non UK
sttaion and then check if there are any error or warning messages from
Plugin::BBCiPlayer in log file
bpa's Profile:
agbagb wrote:
> Ahh - my apologies. It's set as HLS>MP3>FlashAAC>FlashMP3 as is On
> Demand Stream Preference [I guess it installed with those settings?]
>
> And just below that is 2 x Use Highest Bitrate Setting Dash Stream.
>
> So, I should change one (? or both ?) of the first
bpa wrote:
> [
>
> The log was good. It tells me that new plugin is installed but uis try
> to play HLS format.
>
> Can you check the change that BBCiPlayer Setting "Live Preference"
> setting is "DASH > HLS > MP3> Flashacc" ?
Ahh - my apologies. It's set as HLS>MP3>FlashAAC>FlashMP3 as
[agbagb wrote:
> Actually have a few moments this evening.. I've not used Logging
> before, so I hope the attached zip is what you need. If not, let me
> know and I'll get back at it tomorrow morning.
The log was good. It tells me that new plugin is installed but uis try
to play HLS
bpa wrote:
> If it happens for Touch then all players will be affected.
>
> The LMS WebUI Setting/Plugin page does show the plugin "active" and
> version 1.5.3
> There are no problem with plugin setting ?
> When you try to play a station do any logo or station picture appear
> (they are
agbagb wrote:
> Thanks - will try all that tomorrow morning, and report back. But many
> thanks for your time and suggestions so far. BTW, I've just replicated
> the same Touch fault message on a Radio too.
Actually have a few moments this evening.. I've not used Logging
before, so I
agbagb wrote:
> Thanks - will try all that tomorrow morning, and report back. But many
> thanks for your time and suggestions so far. BTW, I've just replicated
> the same Touch fault message on a Radio too.
If it happens for Touch then all players will be affected.
The LMS WebUI
bpa wrote:
> One user of VPNs last week had to update their VPN as BBC blocked it so
> just consider this as a possibility. That said it shouldn't affect
> non-uk stations. MP3 are considered non-UK
>
> The "Can't Open file for" is unusual whgen playing on a Touch as there
> should be no
agbagb wrote:
> I'm connecting to the net in France, but using a VPN into the UK. I can
> get live access to most BBC region-restricted sites and streams via LMS
> (+ net access to the TV iPlayer).
One user of VPNs last week had ro update their VPN as BBC blocked it.
The "Can't Open file
bpa wrote:
> That version barely worked on Windows when it came out - I'm v.
> surprised you heard anything.
> If you only listen to Live streams - would the MP3 stream of the
> Logitech BBC App be adequate ? It may not be if you want to listen say
> country cricket.
>
> The googlecode URL
agbagb wrote:
> Quick update pre-reboots etc etc.
>
> - I'm on an old iPlayer version: 1.3.1 Alpha3. I guess I ought to
> update.
> - Going into LMS Settings, Plugins, I see at the top of the list of
> plugins: "Bad repository
> http://bpaplugins.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/repo-short.xml -
agbagb wrote:
> I'll get back to you on the rest later, but a couple of quick points:
> - The "Owing to Rights" is quite common on live sports commentary
> streams (so, if out of UK, you need to VPN into the UK-only stream)
> - Oddly, my saved BBC Favorites have been unchanged for months (and
agbagb wrote:
> I'll get back to you on the rest later, but a couple of quick points:
> - The "Owing to Rights" is quite common on live sports commentary
> streams (so, if out of UK, you need to VPN into the UK-only stream)
You're right but your title implied any Live BBC stream
> - Oddly, my
bpa wrote:
> Whater vwersion of BBC Ipplayer plugin ?
> What setting to play LIve stream ?
>
> I'm non-uk and Listen Live works OK for so it seems like an issue
> specific to you or your locale ( streaming is organised into have
> regions).
>
> "Can't Open file for" - is unusual for Touch as
agbagb wrote:
> 'Morning All,
>
> Haven't made any changes to my system for quite a while, but today I
> can't get the "Listen Live" on BBC iPlayer to stream any radio at all:
> the Touch screen gives me a "Problem: Can't Open File for Radio
> [Whatever]".
>
> Oddly, if I go into the
'Morning All,
Haven't made any changes to my system for quite a while, but today I
can't get the "Listen Live" on BBC iPlayer to stream any radio at all:
the Touch screen gives me a "Problem: Can't Open File for Radio
[Whatever]".
Oddly, if I go into the "Listen Live (Non-UK)" option, I can
Triode;642857 Wrote:
Try disabling AAC native on the setting page.
Sorry for the delay in getting back. This seems to have fixed the
problem - thanks very much. But am I losing anything in the process? Is
this a lower quality stream? It still says 128kbit AAC / 320 kbit AAC so
I guess not.
rbl;651924 Wrote:
Sorry for the delay in getting back. This seems to have fixed the
problem - thanks very much. But am I losing anything in the process? Is
this a lower quality stream? It still says 128kbit AAC / 320 kbit AAC so
I guess not.
Its not any lower quality its actually less cpu
Triode;651925 Wrote:
Its not any lower quality its actually less cpu load on the
player/server but is normally the same aac streams. Is it still broken
for you when that setting is enabled?
Yes - it is still broken when this setting is enabled. But happy to go
without this setting if the
rbl;651928 Wrote:
Yes - it is still broken when this setting is enabled. But happy to go
without this setting if the quality is the same ...
Where are you and what is the output of the two debugging commands I
gave when you have this setting set?
--
Triode
Am in London. Here is the last bit of the log file after trying to play
BBC1 Xtra with the debugging turned on ...
+---+
|Filename: server - Copy.log|
|Download:
Code:
[11-08-22 22:06:45.7301] Slim::Player::Song::open (409) Error: Couldn't
create command line for aap playback for
[http://bbcmedia.ic.llnwd.net/stream/bbcmedia_lc1_1xtra_p?s=1314040021e=1314054421h=807985829355a8c4ede86b93a9dd9e6b]
I
Aha - I did install Inguz DRC and that did require me to make some sort
of custom type file. Can't quite remember the details, and I have given
up using Inguz now (sadly). I think I'll just leave it be with the
Native AAC option disabled as this seems to work nicely. At some point
I'll have to
I have had the same problems for the last few days. The streams
sometimes work - sometimes not. However if you take the url of the live
stream (say Radio 4 FM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/listenlive/r4_aaclca.pls?livetxt=pubsub.livetext.radio4
) put into the web address in a browser it will also
richard_in_wingfield;642956 Wrote:
I have had the same problems for the last few days. The streams
sometimes work - sometimes not. However if you take the url of the live
stream (say Radio 4 FM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/listenlive/r4_aaclca.pls?livetxt=pubsub.livetext.radio4
) put into the
For some reason if I go Internet Radio-BBC iPlayer-Listen Live-Radio
XX then it doesn't work for any station. No music ever starts, and it
says under More info Bitrate 128000bbps CBR. All stations are the
same. Surprisingly the Listen Again works fine. The URL is e.g.
rbl;642847 Wrote:
For some reason if I go Internet Radio-BBC iPlayer-Listen Live-Radio
XX then it doesn't work for any station. No music ever starts, and it
says under More info Bitrate 128000bbps CBR. All stations are the
same. Surprisingly the Listen Again works fine. The URL is e.g.
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