Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] What is the best way to get BBC Radio these days (from the UK)?

2015-08-20 Thread rbl
Has anyone made any progress with these BBC streams? They still seem pretty rubbish to me ... Although I get the impression that the breakups are generally shorter these days ... rbl's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] What is the best way to get BBC Radio these days (from the UK)?

2015-07-08 Thread rbl
Verulamius wrote: I'm currently not experiencing any problems with triode' iplayer. I'm using the fmpg variation with tplink powerline homeplugs between my touch and my rpi2 which is hosting squeezeplug/max2play and a 6Meg broadband connection. That said, what does drop is the mp3

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] What is the best way to get BBC Radio these days (from the UK)?

2015-07-08 Thread rbl
I spoke to a buddy who uses his Sonos system to stream BBC Radio 4. He said it drops out about once every two weeks!! Which begs the question, what is wrong with the Logitech system!? rbl's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] What is the best way to get BBC Radio these days (from the UK)?

2015-07-08 Thread bonze
rbl wrote: I spoke to a buddy who uses his Sonos system to stream BBC Radio 4. He said it drops out about once every two weeks!! Which begs the question, what is wrong with the Logitech system!? How is he accessing Radio4? What url is his system using? LMS Version: 7.9 TranquilPC

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] What is the best way to get BBC Radio these days (from the UK)?

2015-07-08 Thread Verulamius
I'm currently not experiencing any problems with triode' iplayer. I'm using the fmpg variation with tplink powerline homeplugs between my touch and my rpi2 which is hosting squeezeplug/max2play and a 6Meg broadband connection. That said, what does drop is the mp3 logitech bbc radio feeds - this

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] What is the best way to get BBC Radio these days (from the UK)?

2015-07-08 Thread bpa
Verulamius wrote: This is bpa' playhls version per http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?103312-BBCiPlayer-plugin-a-guick-fix-guide which requires the fmpg convertor. For clarity - it is ffmpeg not fmpg bpa's

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] What is the best way to get BBC Radio these days (from the UK)?

2015-07-08 Thread Verulamius
This is bpa' playhls version per http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?103312-BBCiPlayer-plugin-a-guick-fix-guide which requires the fmpg convertor. Verulamius's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] What is the best way to get BBC Radio these days (from the UK)?

2015-06-30 Thread rbl
bonze wrote: Most are trying to get away from relying on the MP3 feeds though. of course, and I'd love to too, but they don't work! At least these mp3 streams are reasonably reliable. I'll give it another month or so and try the proper higher bitrate streams and see if the BBC have go their

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] What is the best way to get BBC Radio these days (from the UK)?

2015-06-29 Thread rbl
kesey wrote: try this: http://www.radiofeeds.co.uk/mypicks/RadioFeedsSBS.zip I have been using this lately and it does seem a lot better. Bitrate 128Kbps except Radio 3 which is 320Kbps. rbl's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] What is the best way to get BBC Radio these days (from the UK)?

2015-06-29 Thread bonze
rbl wrote: I have been using this lately and it does seem a lot better. Bitrate 128Kbps except Radio 3 which is 320Kbps. Most are trying to get away from relying on the MP3 feeds though. LMS Version: 7.9 TranquilPC T2-WHS-A3 - WHS 2011 2x Touch, 3x SB3

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] What is the best way to get BBC Radio these days (from the UK)?

2015-06-22 Thread Giza2020
Ok i was getting 100% up to 1000kbps and then dropping to 40 - 50% for 1500 and then drops to 20 -30% for 2000k ..need to s3e. What happens when sync'd but wondering if this is normal. .moved right up next to the router and the numbers rose but not a huge amount

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] What is the best way to get BBC Radio these days (from the UK)?

2015-06-22 Thread bpa
Giza2020 wrote: Ok i was getting 100% up to 1000kbps and then dropping to 40 - 50% for 1500 and then drops to 20 -30% for 2000k ..need to s3e. What happens when sync'd but wondering if this is normal. .moved right up next to the router and the numbers rose but not a huge amount So for a

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] What is the best way to get BBC Radio these days (from the UK)?

2015-06-22 Thread Giza2020
Thanks Bpa So my lms is connected via homeplugs Router is an asus rt56u and i just moved to the same room as the router itself. I can't look at the squeezelite networks test on the pi because i can't find the network test option. So are you saying the boom should be smashing those network

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] What is the best way to get BBC Radio these days (from the UK)?

2015-06-22 Thread bpa
Giza2020 wrote: So my lms is connected via homeplugs Homeplugs have their own problems - I have a set as well. Router is an asus rt56u and i just moved to the same room as the router itself. If in the same room better to test with a cable to determine. I can't look at the squeezelite

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] What is the best way to get BBC Radio these days (from the UK)?

2015-06-22 Thread bpa
Giza2020 wrote: No I haven't done that for a while!.. I'll give it a try later .. I guess the higher data rate the better the test? Yes and No. Expect 100% up to a certain speed but above some speed connection will deteriorate. You can test if orientation of Boom affects this. Transcoded

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] What is the best way to get BBC Radio these days (from the UK)?

2015-06-22 Thread Giza2020
bpa wrote: Yes and No. Expect 100% up to a certain speed but above some speed connection will deteriorate. You can test if orientation of Boom affects this. Transcoded streams into Flac typically need about 50% compression so required datarate would be about 750kbps (since the BBC now uses

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] What is the best way to get BBC Radio these days (from the UK)?

2015-06-22 Thread bpa
Giza2020 wrote: I think I'm reaching a similar conclusion. i think my boom is causing the buffering in my sync'd setup up with a squeezelite player on a pi. I'm wondering if the boom requires a better wifi signal than the pi due to the need to transcode the format but the pi doesn't?

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] What is the best way to get BBC Radio these days (from the UK)?

2015-06-22 Thread Giza2020
bpa wrote: You cannot compare %'s from different devices as IIRC there is no standard method. Have you run the network test on your boom (Boom menu Settings/Information/Network Test - rotate control to change datarate) No I haven't done that for a while!.. I'll give it a try later .. I

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] What is the best way to get BBC Radio these days (from the UK)?

2015-06-22 Thread Giza2020
I think I'm reaching a similar conclusion. i think my boom is causing the buffering in my sync'd setup up with a squeezelite player on a pi. I'm wondering if the boom requires a better wifi signal than the pi due to the need to transcode the format but the pi doesn't? Boom wifi signal is about

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] What is the best way to get BBC Radio these days (from the UK)?

2015-06-21 Thread sjalloq
bpa wrote: Yes typo network.asynchttp and network.asyncdns And those two network loggers were enabled already and should be in the log I uploaded. There might be some noise in there as I was playing with the logs to see what they output. Today, I've just started the live feed of BBC R1 and

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] What is the best way to get BBC Radio these days (from the UK)?

2015-06-21 Thread sjalloq
OK, an update from my side. This evening I've had a play and tried a few things. I'm currently listening to the R1 stream via both my Logitech Squeezeblox Classic and Squeezeplay on OS X. I've also installed LMS 7.8.1 on an Ubuntu VM on my server. Squeezeplay is fine. My Squeezebox is

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] What is the best way to get BBC Radio these days (from the UK)?

2015-06-20 Thread sjalloq
I just wanted to add to this thread. I'm seeing the same sort of dropouts and issues as others here. I've enabled logging of plugin.bbciplayer.hls. I've been watching the log stream while I try to listen and the dropouts always seem to coincide with a larger number of chunks being received.

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] What is the best way to get BBC Radio these days (from the UK)?

2015-06-20 Thread bpa
sjalloq wrote: I just wanted to add to this thread. I'm seeing the same sort of dropouts and issues as others here. I've enabled logging of plugin.bbciplayer.hls. I've been watching the log stream while I try to listen and the dropouts always seem to coincide with a larger number of

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] What is the best way to get BBC Radio these days (from the UK)?

2015-06-20 Thread sjalloq
This is the log after 3 underruns in about 15 seconds. Code: [15-06-20 19:39:05.2190] Plugins::BBCiPlayer::iPlayer::_checkStream (245) consecutiveErrors: 0 songElapsed: 2.93301921081543 [15-06-20 19:39:05.2221] Plugins::BBCiPlayer::iPlayer::_checkStream (249) stream

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] What is the best way to get BBC Radio these days (from the UK)?

2015-06-20 Thread sjalloq
It's definitely related to having a chunk list of 5. Every time I get merged chunklist now 5 chunks it underruns. I've been seeing the following type of warnings today quite a bit so perhaps there are requests going on in the background that cause a process to timeout. I've tried to disable

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] What is the best way to get BBC Radio these days (from the UK)?

2015-06-20 Thread bpa
sjalloq wrote: It's definitely related to having a chunk list of 5. Every time I get merged chunklist now 5 chunks it underruns. I've been seeing the following type of warnings today quite a bit so perhaps there are requests going on in the background that cause a process to timeout.

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] What is the best way to get BBC Radio these days (from the UK)?

2015-06-20 Thread castalla
Have you seen this : https://www.robertsradiotechnical.co.uk/ Touch - Muse M50 EX TPA3123 T-Amp Mini - Acoustics Q10 speakers Logitech Radio Logitech UE Smart Radio Raspberry Pi + Squeezeplug LMS + Squeezelite Cubieboard + Debian 7 + LMS 7.8.1 + Squeezelite - Soundwave SW100 bluetooth speaker

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] What is the best way to get BBC Radio these days (from the UK)?

2015-06-20 Thread sjalloq
Sorry, I assumed that was a typo as I don't have that logger. I'm running LMS 7.7.2. sjalloq's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4093 View this thread:

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] What is the best way to get BBC Radio these days (from the UK)?

2015-06-20 Thread bpa
sjalloq wrote: Sorry, I assumed that was a typo as I don't have that logger. I'm running LMS 7.7.2. It's in 7.7.x bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread:

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] What is the best way to get BBC Radio these days (from the UK)?

2015-06-19 Thread Giza2020
I'm also getting the odd bit of buffering now and again.. but what was really strange the other day was I watched a Youtube clip on my phone which caused the buffering to start - I'm on virgin fibre connected to a Asus router (made the vm superhub a dumb modem which links to the Asus router) so

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] What is the best way to get BBC Radio these days (from the UK)?

2015-06-19 Thread bpa
rbl wrote: Well I think it is better, but still far from perfect. Whereas occasionally it re-buffers and no error is shown in the log, usually I get the following errors: [15-06-18 10:14:48.1603] Plugins::BBCiPlayer::HLS::_parsePL (199) merged chunklist now 4 chunks [15-06-18

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] What is the best way to get BBC Radio these days (from the UK)?

2015-06-19 Thread castalla
Giza2020 wrote: I'm also getting the odd bit of buffering now and again.. but what was really strange the other day was I watched a Youtube clip on my phone which caused the buffering to start - I'm on virgin fibre connected to a Asus router (made the vm superhub a dumb modem which links to

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] What is the best way to get BBC Radio these days (from the UK)?

2015-06-19 Thread rbl
Well I think it is better, but still far from perfect. Whereas occasionally it re-buffers and no error is shown in the log, usually I get the following errors: [15-06-18 10:14:48.1603] Plugins::BBCiPlayer::HLS::_parsePL (199) merged chunklist now 4 chunks [15-06-18 10:14:48.1604]

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] What is the best way to get BBC Radio these days (from the UK)?

2015-06-15 Thread bpa
The log had two sorts of errors which triggered the rebuffering 1. Timeout - this timeout is controlled by WebUI Settings/Advanced/Network/Radio Station Timeout - if it is 3 or less can you try increasings it to say 10. 2. Failure to connect but there are Radiovis error functionality around the

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] What is the best way to get BBC Radio these days (from the UK)?

2015-06-15 Thread rbl
bpa wrote: Zip file is empty I'm not sure what you are logging but the following will track the most common issues.. Note time you start playing and also note time you get problems. network.asyncdns to INFO network.asynchttp to INFO plugin.bbciplayer to INFO I am now logging as above,

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] What is the best way to get BBC Radio these days (from the UK)?

2015-06-15 Thread bonze
rbl wrote: I can't find a Radiovis plugin in Settings\PlugIns, although I searched my hard drive and found a file ...\Plugins\BBCiPlayer\RadioVis.pm, so it would appear to be part of the BBC iPlayer plugin itself. Switching off the two BBC iPlayer settings 'Show Live Text' and 'Show Slide

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] What is the best way to get BBC Radio these days (from the UK)?

2015-06-15 Thread rbl
bonze wrote: Switching off the two BBC iPlayer settings 'Show Live Text' and 'Show Slide Show' will stop RadioVis being used. Ok - have done that and will see what happens. I also changed Radio Station Buffer Seconds back to 3s to see if RadioVis is the problem. Now have to wait and see -

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] What is the best way to get BBC Radio these days (from the UK)?

2015-06-15 Thread rbl
bpa wrote: The log had two sorts of errors which triggered the rebuffering 1. Timeout - this timeout is controlled by WebUI Settings/Advanced/Network/Radio Station Timeout - if it is 3 or less can you try increasings it to say 10. 2. Failure to connect but there are Radiovis error

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] What is the best way to get BBC Radio these days (from the UK)?

2015-06-15 Thread bpa
rbl wrote: Ok - have done that and will see what happens. I also changed Radio Station Buffer Seconds back to 3s to see if RadioVis is the problem. Now have to wait and see - thanks very much for the help. Incidentally, worth mentioning that I use 2 x SB3s and SqueezeLite 3, and everything

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] What is the best way to get BBC Radio these days (from the UK)?

2015-06-15 Thread rbl
bpa wrote: Justr in case - keep server.asynchhttp is set to INFO and check for timeout log message You had one in your log which means one of your 3 rebuffer was caused by timeout and it had no associated Radiovis error. The reason why I think 3 secs is too short is because BBC sends

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] What is the best way to get BBC Radio these days (from the UK)?

2015-06-15 Thread rbl
bpa wrote: Not the Radio Station Buffer Seconds the Radio Station Timeout Ah - Timeout was already set to 15. Buffer was set to 3. Sounds like that is all ok then. Well, I'll see how disabling Show Live Text and Show Slide Show helps things. Once again, thanks for your help...

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] What is the best way to get BBC Radio these days (from the UK)?

2015-06-15 Thread bpa
rbl wrote: Will do. And I'll set the buffer to 10s then - sounds like that is what the BBC require ... Fingers x'd! Not the Radio Station Buffer Seconds the Radio Station Timeout bpa's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] What is the best way to get BBC Radio these days (from the UK)?

2015-06-13 Thread rbl
bpa wrote: I agree with this suggestion - you should post on an existing BBCiPlayer thread as this thread title doesn't highlight your issue is really rebuffering and not which hardware or URLs. There is some consensus on what can be done to reduce the rebuffering effect such as changing

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] What is the best way to get BBC Radio these days (from the UK)?

2015-06-13 Thread bpa
rbl wrote: IIRC one user reported that Windows DNS caching is reluctant to expire entries so it's possible on Windows the problem is not resolved merely by changing DNS server. Have you enabled logging to see what is happening and the source of the fault (e.g. DNS problem, http

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] What is the best way to get BBC Radio these days (from the UK)?

2015-06-13 Thread Giza2020
5 live buffering this am for me Giza2020's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=36318 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103797

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] What is the best way to get BBC Radio these days (from the UK)?

2015-06-13 Thread rbl
R4 is better right now, but it dropped out a few minutes ago, a few seconds before 12.10.00 today. I had enabled logging, and the file is attached. There are errors at 12:10:23 but the dropout definitely happened before this. Any idea what this all means? 18264

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] What is the best way to get BBC Radio these days (from the UK)?

2015-06-13 Thread bpa
Zip file is empty I'm not sure what you are logging but the following will track the most common issues.. Note time you start playing and also note time you get problems. network.asyncdns to INFO network.asynchttp to INFO plugin.bbciplayer to INFO

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] What is the best way to get BBC Radio these days (from the UK)?

2015-06-12 Thread kesey
rbl wrote: Sorry, but it is a nightmare digging through all the endless problems people have had over recent months with iPlayer / BBC Radio. Just wondering, what is the currently accepted best way to get BBC live radio for a UK listener? Currently using BBC iPlayer (v1.3.1alpha3) plugin,

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] What is the best way to get BBC Radio these days (from the UK)?

2015-06-12 Thread Giza2020
Pi2 setup with max2play which sets up the lms server (and/or squeezelite if you want it to be a player too ) Works great as its a low power 24/7 setup Not sure how it would compare to your set up but 1gb ram makes it pretty nifty and does everything i ask of it

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] What is the best way to get BBC Radio these days (from the UK)?

2015-06-12 Thread bpa
Giza2020 wrote: I think you're using the best solution so maybe worth posting in the BBC iplayer to see what's happening There are a few posts about buffering issues and solutions.. what is LMS running on? I agree with this suggestion - you should post on an existing BBCiPlayer thread as

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] What is the best way to get BBC Radio these days (from the UK)?

2015-06-11 Thread Giza2020
Yes it does look right... I might have been able to help had you been on a pi server .. sorry Giza2020's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=36318 View this thread:

[SlimDevices: Plugins] What is the best way to get BBC Radio these days (from the UK)?

2015-06-11 Thread rbl
Sorry, but it is a nightmare digging through all the endless problems people have had over recent months with iPlayer / BBC Radio. Just wondering, what is the currently accepted best way to get BBC live radio for a UK listener? Currently using BBC iPlayer (v1.3.1alpha3) plugin, with a good

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] What is the best way to get BBC Radio these days (from the UK)?

2015-06-11 Thread Giza2020
rbl wrote: Sorry, but it is a nightmare digging through all the endless problems people have had over recent months with iPlayer / BBC Radio. Just wondering, what is the currently accepted best way to get BBC live radio for a UK listener? Currently using BBC iPlayer (v1.3.1alpha3) plugin,

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] What is the best way to get BBC Radio these days (from the UK)?

2015-06-11 Thread rbl
Thanks. Good to know that at least I am running the right iPlayer version etc.. Am running LMS 7.7.5 on a Win7 64bit dual core 3.1GHz i3-2100 desktop with 8GB ram and SSD. It otherwise works very well! It seems that a lot of people are having buffering problems, and for me at least there are

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] What is the best way to get BBC Radio these days (from the UK)?

2015-06-11 Thread rbl
I never realised you can run a PI server. Is it easy to setup and does it run as well as a PC server (and likely to work with Squeezer on my phone)? Could be a good option ... rbl's Profile: