podlators v6.0.0 released

2024-07-10 Thread Russ Allbery
maintained using Git; see the instructions on the above page to access the Git repository. Please let me know of any problems or feature requests not already listed in the TODO file. -- #!/usr/bin/perl -- Russ Allbery, Just Another Perl Hacker $^=q;@!>~|{>krw>yn{u<$$<[~|| 0gFzD gD,

Re: Increasing podlators Perl dependency to 5.12

2024-03-24 Thread Russ Allbery
.org/project/perl/versions Thank you! This is very useful. -- #!/usr/bin/perl -- Russ Allbery, Just Another Perl Hacker $^=q;@!>~|{>krw>yn{u<$$<[~|| 0gFzD gD, 00Fz, 0,,( 0hF 0g)F/=, 0> "L$/GEIFewe{,$/ 0C$~> "@=,m,|,(e 0.), 01,pnn,y{ rw} >;,$0=q,$,,($_=$^)=~y,$/ C-~><@=\n\r,-~$:-u/ #y,d,s,(\$.),$1,gee,print

Re: POD formatter version comments

2024-03-24 Thread Russ Allbery
Shawn H Corey writes: > On 2024-03-15 14:38, Russ Allbery wrote: >> If you would be happy with a PR to remove that bullet point, we're just >> vigorously agreeing. 🙂 Otherwise, I'm not sure what you're asking for >> instead. > I guess I wasn&

Re: POD formatter version comments

2024-03-24 Thread Russ Allbery
nd a bug report. For perlpodspec, based on this discussion, I propose the following fairly minimal change. (I've never had a reason to submit a PR against Perl before; now seems like a good time to start.) >From ac979b8560449d363d1b3309ef5b80aa00b4b8f2 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From

Increasing podlators Perl dependency to 5.12

2024-03-16 Thread Russ Allbery
in a couple of weeks, but my track record on accurate predictions is not great. -- #!/usr/bin/perl -- Russ Allbery, Just Another Perl Hacker $^=q;@!>~|{>krw>yn{u<$$<[~|| 0gFzD gD, 00Fz, 0,,( 0hF 0g)F/=, 0> "L$/GEIFewe{,$/ 0C$~> "@=,m,|,(e 0.), 01,pnn,y{ rw} >;

Re: POD formatter version comments

2024-03-15 Thread Russ Allbery
Shawn H Corey writes: > On 2024-03-15 12:44, Russ Allbery wrote: >> Shawn H Corey writes: >>> I think it should be an option. Sometimes it is necessary to know that >>> a change in appearance is caused by changes to a module and not to the >>> generating do

Re: POD formatter version comments

2024-03-15 Thread Russ Allbery
o always do it still be okay? The way I was thinking of it is that what formatters put into comments is generally up to them; by default, they *can* include anything they want. Removing the requirement thus just leaves the decision unconstrained. -- #!/usr/bin/perl -- Russ Allbery, Just Another Pe

POD formatter version comments

2024-03-15 Thread Russ Allbery
ments is not wrong, but I don't think it needs to be said in the specification document and it's mostly covered by the next bullet point anyway.) -- #!/usr/bin/perl -- Russ Allbery, Just Another Perl Hacker $^=q;@!>~|{>krw>yn{u<$$<[~|| 0gFzD gD, 00Fz, 0,,( 0hF 0g)F/

Re: Discussing Extending the POD Spec

2023-09-22 Thread Russ Allbery
"Paul \"LeoNerd\" Evans" writes: > Russ Allbery wrote: >> One of the things I've wanted from nearly the start was some way of >> marking up metasyntactic variables. POD is full of things like: >> >> perl >> >> or: >>

Re: Discussing Extending the POD Spec

2023-09-22 Thread Russ Allbery
"Paul \"LeoNerd\" Evans" writes: > Russ Allbery wrote: >> There are a few things that I've wanted to have in POD >> for a while, although nothing that rose to the level of wanting to do >> the work required to get it widely supported. > Ah

Re: Discussing Extending the POD Spec

2023-09-21 Thread Russ Allbery
e work required to get it widely supported. -- #!/usr/bin/perl -- Russ Allbery, Just Another Perl Hacker $^=q;@!>~|{>krw>yn{u<$$<[~|| 0gFzD gD, 00Fz, 0,,( 0hF 0g)F/=, 0> "L$/GEIFewe{,$/ 0C$~> "@=,m,|,(e 0.), 01,pnn,y{ rw} >;,$0=q,$,,($_=$^)=~y,$/ C-~><@=\n\r,-~$:-u/ #y,d,s,(\$.),$1,gee,print

Re: Seeking Pod::Simple::ANSI

2023-05-16 Thread Russ Allbery
ANSI escape sequences, Pod::Text::Color provides that, although it's quite conservative and limited. There is a Pod::Text::Color::Delight module on CPAN that is much more aggressive about coloring things and may be more appealing. -- #!/usr/bin/perl -- Russ Allbery, Just Another Perl Hacker

Re: podlators 5.00 released

2022-12-26 Thread Russ Allbery
Leon Timmermans writes: > On Fri, Nov 25, 2022 at 11:53 PM Russ Allbery wrote: >> - Drop support for Perl 5.8. The minimum required version is Perl 5.10. > It turns out that that part of the change made Module::Build > uninstallable on 5.8, which makes half of CPAN uninstal

Re: podlators 5.00 released

2022-12-26 Thread Russ Allbery
Leon Timmermans writes: > On Fri, Nov 25, 2022 at 11:53 PM Russ Allbery wrote: >> - Drop support for Perl 5.8. The minimum required version is Perl 5.10. > It turns out that that part of the change made Module::Build > uninstallable on 5.8, which makes half of CPAN uninstal

podlators 5.01 released

2022-12-25 Thread Russ Allbery
sing Git; see the instructions on the above page to access the Git repository. Please let me know of any problems or feature requests not already listed in the TODO file. -- #!/usr/bin/perl -- Russ Allbery, Just Another Perl Hacker $^=q;@!>~|{>krw>yn{u<$$<[~|| 0gFzD gD, 00Fz, 0,,( 0

podlators 5.00 released

2022-11-25 Thread Russ Allbery
s after each sentence when reflowing, and therefore if you want formatted Pod::Man output to consistently have one space after each sentence, you will have to avoid ending a sentence at the end of a line in the middle of a paragraph. -- #!/usr/bin/perl -- Russ Allbery, Just Another P

Re: [feature] Add =image to perl pod #18169

2020-10-04 Thread Russ Allbery
ing a YAML module into Perl core is going to be unappealing, but POD parsing currently lives in core. -- #!/usr/bin/perl -- Russ Allbery, Just Another Perl Hacker $^=q;@!>~|{>krw>yn{u<$$<[~|| 0gFzD gD, 00Fz, 0,,( 0hF 0g)F/=, 0> "L$/GEIFewe{,$/ 0C$~> "@=,m,|,(e 0.), 01,pnn,y{ rw} >;,$0=q,$,,($_=$^)=~y,$/ C-~><@=\n\r,-~$:-u/ #y,d,s,(\$.),$1,gee,print

Re: [feature] Add =image to perl pod #18169

2020-10-01 Thread Russ Allbery
ough, and I'm not volunteering to implement eqn support in Pod::Man) -- #!/usr/bin/perl -- Russ Allbery, Just Another Perl Hacker $^=q;@!>~|{>krw>yn{u<$$<[~|| 0gFzD gD, 00Fz, 0,,( 0hF 0g)F/=, 0> "L$/GEIFewe{,$/ 0C$~> "@=,m,|,(e 0.), 01,pnn,y{ rw} >;,$0=q,$,,($_=$^)=~y,$/ C-~><@=\n\r,-~$:-u/ #y,d,s,(\$.),$1,gee,print

Re: [feature] Add =image to perl pod #18169

2020-10-01 Thread Russ Allbery
cleanest way from the perspective of a POD formatter is probably to add =imagetitle as well (valid only inside an =image/=endimage pair) rather than trying to parse the argument to =image. -- #!/usr/bin/perl -- Russ Allbery, Just Another Perl Hacker $^=q;@!>~|{>krw>yn{u<$$<[~|| 0gF

Re: Example of dumper (along with references) using Pod::Simple?

2020-05-25 Thread Russ Allbery
to implement something similar > to --add-command of xgettext. Yes, call the code_handler() method and pass it a callback. That callback will be called for each non-POD block in the source file, and can then do what it wants with them. -- #!/usr/bin/perl -- Russ Allbery, Just Another Per

podlators 4.14 released

2020-01-04 Thread Russ Allbery
maintained using Git; see the instructions on the above page to access the Git repository. Please let me know of any problems or feature requests not already listed in the TODO file. -- #!/usr/bin/perl -- Russ Allbery, Just Another Perl Hacker $^=q;@!>~|{>krw>yn{u<$$<[~|| 0gFzD gD,

podlators 4.13 released

2019-12-26 Thread Russ Allbery
e TODO file. -- #!/usr/bin/perl -- Russ Allbery, Just Another Perl Hacker $^=q;@!>~|{>krw>yn{u<$$<[~|| 0gFzD gD, 00Fz, 0,,( 0hF 0g)F/=, 0> "L$/GEIFewe{,$/ 0C$~> "@=,m,|,(e 0.), 01,pnn,y{ rw} >;,$0=q,$,,($_=$^)=~y,$/ C-~><@=\n\r,-~$:-u/ #y,d,s,(\$.),$1,gee,print

Re: What to do about L and L<"Foo Bar">

2018-05-29 Thread Russ Allbery
the code that tries to generate links and cares about the places where this ambiguity might cause problems. -- #!/usr/bin/perl -- Russ Allbery, Just Another Perl Hacker $^=q;@!>~|{>krw>yn{u<$$<[~|| 0gFzD gD, 00Fz, 0,,( 0hF 0g)F/=, 0> "L$/GEIFewe{,$/ 0C$~> "@=,m,|,(e 0.), 01,pnn,y{ rw} >;,$0=q,$,,($_=$^)=~y,$/ C-~><@=\n\r,-~$:-u/ #y,d,s,(\$.),$1,gee,print

Re: =item * foo bar

2018-05-08 Thread Russ Allbery
99, so I suspect it was in Tom Christiansen's original pod2man script. So, the short answer is "very, very, very long-standing backward compatibility." -- #!/usr/bin/perl -- Russ Allbery, Just Another Perl Hacker $^=q;@!>~|{>krw>yn{u<$$<[~|| 0gFzD gD, 00Fz, 0,,( 0hF 0

podlators 4.11 released

2018-05-07 Thread Russ Allbery
ifier headers to all substantial source files. -- #!/usr/bin/perl -- Russ Allbery, Just Another Perl Hacker $^=q;@!>~|{>krw>yn{u<$$<[~|| 0gFzD gD, 00Fz, 0,,( 0hF 0g)F/=, 0> "L$/GEIFewe{,$/ 0C$~> "@=,m,|,(e 0.), 01,pnn,y{ rw} >;,$0=q,$,,($_=$^)=~y,$/ C-~><@=\n\r,-~$:-u/ #y,d,s,(\$.),$1,gee,print

podlators 4.10 released

2017-12-25 Thread Russ Allbery
Russ Allbery (ea...@eyrie.org) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>

Re: podlators 4.09 released

2016-11-05 Thread Russ Allbery
(Or you can leave it; it's not too large.) -- #!/usr/bin/perl -- Russ Allbery, Just Another Perl Hacker $^=q;@!>~|{>krw>yn{u<$$<[~|| 0gFzD gD, 00Fz, 0,,( 0hF 0g)F/=, 0> "L$/GEIFewe{,$/ 0C$~> "@=,m,|,(e 0.), 01,pnn,y{ rw} >;,$0=q,$,,($_=$^)=~y,$/ C-~><@=\n\r,-~$:-u/ #y,d,s,(\$.),$1,gee,print

podlators 4.09 released

2016-11-05 Thread Allbery
y. Note to Perl core maintainers who are incorporating this update: feel free to remove the docs/metadata directory when importing, as this is source to generate the README file and web pages. (Or you can leave it; it's not too large.) -- #!/usr/bin/perl -- Russ Allbery, Just Another Perl H

podlators 4.08 released

2016-09-24 Thread Russ Allbery
rquote options (and corresponding --lquote and --rquote flags to pod2man) to set the left and right quotes for C<> text independently. (#103298) Remove test for nested L<> markup, since an upcoming version of Pod::Simple will drop support for this. (#114075) -

Re: Pod::Simple issues

2016-04-29 Thread Russ Allbery
standard error, but not to throw an exception. "pod" says to include a POD ERRORS section in the resulting documentation summarizing the errors. "none" ignores POD errors entirely, as much as possible. The default is "die". (Now

Re: Pod::Simple issues

2016-04-29 Thread Russ Allbery
efault to fail on generation. (I'd really rather not reverse that decision at this point.) -- #!/usr/bin/perl -- Russ Allbery, Just Another Perl Hacker $^=q;@!>~|{>krw>yn{u<$$<[~|| 0gFzD gD, 00Fz, 0,,( 0hF 0g)F/=, 0> "L$/GEIFewe{,$/ 0C$~> "@=,m,|,(e 0.),

podlators 4.07 released

2016-03-20 Thread Russ Allbery
bin/perl -- Russ Allbery, Just Another Perl Hacker $^=q;@!>~|{>krw>yn{u<$$<[~|| 0gFzD gD, 00Fz, 0,,( 0hF 0g)F/=, 0> "L$/GEIFewe{,$/ 0C$~> "@=,m,|,(e 0.), 01,pnn,y{ rw} >;,$0=q,$,,($_=$^)=~y,$/ C-~><@=\n\r,-~$:-u/ #y,d,s,(\$.),$1,gee,print

Re: podlators 4.06 released

2016-03-20 Thread Russ Allbery
; Unless there's a need for Encode to be present when padlators is made, > I propose that the code in Pod::Man::new() which warns if Encode isn't > present, only does so if !$ENV{PERL_CORE}. This is a great idea. Thanks! Now implemented, and will be in the next podlators re

Re: podlators 4.06 released

2016-02-16 Thread Russ Allbery
to require Encode as a prerequisite for podlators when building core. Is there any way to do that? -- #!/usr/bin/perl -- Russ Allbery, Just Another Perl Hacker $^=q;@!>~|{>krw>yn{u<$$<[~|| 0gFzD gD, 00Fz, 0,,( 0hF 0g)F/=, 0> "L$/GEIFewe{,$/ 0C$~> "@=,m,|,(e 0.), 01,pnn,y{ rw} >;,$0=q,$,,($_=$^)=~y,$/ C-~><@=\n\r,-~$:-u/ #y,d,s,(\$.),$1,gee,print

podlators 4.06 released

2016-01-31 Thread Russ Allbery
see the instructions on the above page to access the Git repository. Please let me know of any problems or feature requests not already listed in the TODO file. -- #!/usr/bin/perl -- Russ Allbery, Just Another Perl Hacker $^=q;@!>~|{>krw>yn{u<$$<[~|| 0gFzD gD, 00Fz, 0,,( 0hF 0g

Re: podlators 4.05 released

2016-01-31 Thread Russ Allbery
rlpodstyle.pod in core (*not* > cpan/podlators/pod/...), and the other being the minor tweaks to > Makefile.PL, that now look like the following. You can probably just > apply this with -p2. Thanks! I'll apply this, fix the naming of the file, and put out another release. -- #!/us

Re: podlators 4.05 released

2016-01-30 Thread Russ Allbery
considerably. I removed the *.pod suffix to work around problems with Module::Build, and it shouldn't be necessary now that the package is only using ExtUtils::MakeMaker again. -- #!/usr/bin/perl -- Russ Allbery, Just Another Perl Hacker $^=q;@!>~|{>krw>yn{u<$$<[~|| 0gFzD gD,

Re: podlators 4.05 released

2016-01-30 Thread Russ Allbery
nt to do this from Makefile.PL? -- #!/usr/bin/perl -- Russ Allbery, Just Another Perl Hacker $^=q;@!>~|{>krw>yn{u<$$<[~|| 0gFzD gD, 00Fz, 0,,( 0hF 0g)F/=, 0> "L$/GEIFewe{,$/ 0C$~> "@=,m,|,(e 0.), 01,pnn,y{ rw} >;,$0=q,$,,($_=$^)=~y,$/ C-~><@=\n\r,-~$:-u/ #y,d,s,(\$.),$1,gee,print

podlators 4.05 released

2016-01-16 Thread Russ Allbery
ed using Git; see the instructions on the above page to access the Git repository. Please let me know of any problems or feature requests not already listed in the TODO file. -- #!/usr/bin/perl -- Russ Allbery, Just Another Perl Hacker $^=q;@!>~|{>krw>yn{u<$$<[~|| 0gFzD gD, 00Fz, 0,

Re: podlators 4.04 released

2016-01-04 Thread Russ Allbery
Windows, .com on VMS). Ah! Thank you. I hadn't understood that. I'll re-add the .PL wrappers (with better documentation of why they're required) directly in podlators and put out a new release. Then hopefully core can just use the same wrappers that come with the podlators CPAN dist

Re: podlators 4.04 released

2016-01-04 Thread Russ Allbery
"Craig A. Berry" writes: > On Sun, Jan 3, 2016 at 12:39 AM, Russ Allbery wrote: >> I'm pleased to announce release 4.04 of podlators. This fixes some >> test portability and merges changes made as part of the import into >> blead. >> Please let me kn

podlators 4.04 released

2016-01-02 Thread Russ Allbery
dy listed in the TODO file. -- Russ Allbery (ea...@eyrie.org) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>

podlators 4.03 released

2015-12-06 Thread Russ Allbery
ess the Git repository. Please let me know of any problems or feature requests not already listed in the TODO file. -- Russ Allbery (ea...@eyrie.org) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>

podlators 4.02 released

2015-12-02 Thread Russ Allbery
problems or feature requests not already listed in the TODO file. -- Russ Allbery (ea...@eyrie.org) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>

podlators 4.01 released

2015-12-01 Thread Russ Allbery
see the instructions on the above page to access the Git repository. Please let me know of any problems or feature requests not already listed in the TODO file. -- Russ Allbery (ea...@eyrie.org) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>

podlators 4.00 released

2015-11-29 Thread Russ Allbery
e been uploaded to Debian unstable. Please let me know of any problems or feature requests not already listed in the TODO file. -- Russ Allbery (ea...@eyrie.org) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>

podlators 2.5.3 released

2013-10-05 Thread Russ Allbery
has entered CPAN as file: $CPAN/authors/id/R/RR/RRA/podlators-2.5.3.tar.gz size: 104823 bytes md5: b7418e350400592021ff2de1d6212edd Changes since the previous release: 2013-10-05 Russ Allbery * VERSION: podlators 2.5.3 released. * t/man-empty.t: Skip errors test if Pod::S

podlators 2.5.2 released

2013-09-22 Thread Russ Allbery
-2.5.2.tar.gz size: 104911 bytes md5: debcce4412596dc1301c0df8c86415cf Changes since previous release: 2013-09-22 Russ Allbery * VERSION: podlators 2.5.2 released. * lib/Pod/Man.pm (_handle_element_start): Merge the two formatting hashes and move the data to the top of

podlators 2.5.1 released

2013-02-27 Thread Russ Allbery
bytes md5: 9f79d07cf4ac26fd46be1d91a05a82aa Changes from the previous release: 2013-02-27 Russ Allbery * VERSION: podlators 2.5.1 released. * t/color.t: Add Z<> to tag width test to avoid triggering the new Pod::Parser warning about numeric items in description

Re: Recent pod

2013-02-26 Thread Russ Allbery
and then warning is strange. But I probably haven't thought through it. -- Russ Allbery (r...@stanford.edu) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>

Re: Recent pod

2013-02-25 Thread Russ Allbery
ailures. > In general, I think that this is an improvement, as one should not > usually mix =item formats. I can see that your case is completely > legitimate, though. You can fix it by wrapping those items in C<>s. Better (since it doesn't change the formatting): =i

Re: podlators broken by Pod-Simple 3.24

2013-02-20 Thread Russ Allbery
e as the podlators test suite including a test for handling of mismatched item types, since that sounds like the kind of edge case that I'd test, and not expecting the new warning. -- Russ Allbery (r...@stanford.edu) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>

Re: How do I get Pod::Simple to extract pod from its containing file?

2013-01-26 Thread Russ Allbery
Karl Williamson writes: > On 01/26/2013 02:23 PM, Russ Allbery wrote: >> Karl Williamson writes: >>> With Pod::Parser, you just do >>> parse_from_file($in_fh, $out_fh) >>> and it outputs the pod to $out_fh. Pod::Simple has a method of the same >>&

Re: How do I get Pod::Simple to extract pod from its containing file?

2013-01-26 Thread Russ Allbery
u flush $out_fh? Pod::Parser did that but Pod::Simple doesn't, so it's possible if you're doing something short that the entire output was still buffered. Pod::Man and Pod::Text use this Pod::Simple method and do have test suites for it and it seems to work. -- Russ Allbery (r...@s

podlators 2.5.0 released

2013-01-02 Thread Russ Allbery
rl/podlators-2.5.0.tar.gz has entered CPAN as file: $CPAN/authors/id/R/RR/RRA/podlators-2.5.0.tar.gz size: 101497 bytes md5: 964f19e1ab23420a2f7c8753943b8a03 Changes from the previous release: 2013-01-02 Russ Allbery * VERSION: podlators 2.5.0 released. * lib/Pod/Man.

Version comments in POD output

2012-12-26 Thread Russ Allbery
ly doing anyone any good. -- Russ Allbery (r...@stanford.edu) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>

Re: Possible patch to Test::Pod

2012-06-08 Thread Russ Allbery
"David E. Wheeler" writes: > On Jun 7, 2012, at 10:20 AM, Russ Allbery wrote: >> That seems like something that maybe we could all agree could be done, >> no? This seems broader than just POD tests; the test failures may be >> due to some minor bit of functiona

Re: Possible patch to Test::Pod

2012-06-07 Thread Russ Allbery
"David E. Wheeler" writes: > On Jun 7, 2012, at 10:06 AM, Russ Allbery wrote: >>> Basically every tool that does CPAN installs will refuse to install if >>> the test suite fails, and this isn't going to be viewed as buggy or >>> changed. >> Do

Re: Possible patch to Test::Pod

2012-06-07 Thread Russ Allbery
ng to be viewed as buggy or > changed. Do they at least tell people how to install the module anyway if the test failure doesn't look serious? -- Russ Allbery (r...@stanford.edu) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>

Re: Possible patch to Test::Pod

2012-06-05 Thread Russ Allbery
;t care about the failure, just ignore it and install the module anyway. Is there some tool involved that's refusing to install modules if the test suite fails? If so, I think that tool is what's buggy here, and that tool should be fixed so that it's possible to install modules with fai

podlators 2.4.2 released

2012-06-01 Thread Russ Allbery
from previous release: 2012-06-01 Russ Allbery * VERSION: podlators 2.4.2 released. * t/text-encoding.t: Remove the test of a POD document without an encoding. We previously tested that this interpreted the document as ISO 8859-1, but Pod::Simple behavior has

podlators 2.4.1 released

2012-05-30 Thread Russ Allbery
ed CPAN as file: $CPAN/authors/id/R/RR/RRA/podlators-2.4.1.tar.gz size: 96520 bytes md5: 78f9279c552d50692f02ce3744e89639 Changes from the previous release: 2012-05-30 Russ Allbery * VERSION: podlators 2.4.1 released. * lib/Pod/Man.pm (parse_file): Override the Pod::Simple

Re: Strange perldoc perldoc

2012-04-30 Thread Russ Allbery
ux Works for me with: windlord:~> perldoc -V Perldoc v3.15_04, under perl v5.014002 for linux I'm starting to suspect something weird going on with a newer version of perldoc. -- Russ Allbery (r...@stanford.edu) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>

Re: Strange perldoc perldoc

2012-04-30 Thread Russ Allbery
Shawn H Corey writes: > On 12-04-30 12:33 PM, Russ Allbery wrote: >> Which pod2foo are you running that made that verbatim? Neither >> pod2text nor pod2man from podlators as distributed on CPAN do. > I just type: perldoc perldoc That uses Pod::Man by default, at least on

Re: Strange perldoc perldoc

2012-04-30 Thread Russ Allbery
running that made that verbatim? Neither pod2text nor pod2man from podlators as distributed on CPAN do. -- Russ Allbery (r...@stanford.edu) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>

Re: Strange perldoc perldoc

2012-04-30 Thread Russ Allbery
Shawn H Corey writes: > On 12-04-30 11:19 AM, Russ Allbery wrote: >> I suspect indentation wasn't the goal, but rather preserving >> formatting. There currently isn't any way in POD to preserve line >> breaks and allow inline formatting, which gets a little ann

Re: Strange perldoc perldoc

2012-04-30 Thread Russ Allbery
, but it's not really something to rely upon.) -- Russ Allbery (r...@stanford.edu) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>

Re: =item 1. Error

2012-04-26 Thread Russ Allbery
hat's what POD historically has been. The DWIM heuristic here would probably be something like checking to see if all of the =item's in an =over block are =item 1, and if so, automatically renumbering. But that requires read-ahead in the parsing. -- Russ Allbery (r...@stanford.edu)

Re: =item 1. Error

2012-04-26 Thread Russ Allbery
Shawn H Corey writes: > On 12-04-26 11:57 AM, Russ Allbery wrote: >> 1. If the =item tags are numeric, ignore the value of the numbers and just >> renumber them. This is similar to what other markup languages do, but >> it has the significant problem of making it a

Re: =item 1. Error

2012-04-26 Thread Russ Allbery
is a small price to pay. In retrospect, it would have been nice to have different =item commands for numeric and bulleted lists, but, well, POD always made tradeoff decisions in favor of reducing the size of the language. -- Russ Allbery (r...@stanford.edu) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>

Re: Non-ASCII data in POD

2012-04-25 Thread Russ Allbery
Grant McLean writes: > My thoughts on the second issue are that we could modify Pod::Simple to > 'whine' if it sees non-ASCII bytes but no =encoding. This in turn would > cause Test::Pod to pick up the error and help people fix it. I would be in favor of that.

Re: pod2html in perl-5.15.9 recognizes POD markup in verbatim sections

2012-04-25 Thread Russ Allbery
Shawn H Corey writes: > On 12-04-25 11:22 AM, Russ Allbery wrote: >> I think a better approach would have been to add a new command >> (=formatted or something) that had these semantics rather than changing >> the interpretation of existing verbatim paragraphs. > It wo

Re: pod2html in perl-5.15.9 recognizes POD markup in verbatim sections

2012-04-25 Thread Russ Allbery
ts in ways that could be destructive. (For example, it would not format perlpodspec correctly!) -- Russ Allbery (r...@stanford.edu) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>

Re: Deprecation of alternate text in hyperlinks

2012-02-20 Thread Russ Allbery
se a lot of people are using perldoc and the default behavior of it, > which is to page thru nroff-formatted non-hypertext. > Yes, it's the lowest common denominator. > It's also a *very* common denominator. No, actually, please *do* that, as Pod::Text and Pod::Man (including perldoc) have handled this properly since forever. This will render as: my friend's web site <http://stuff.com/> which is just fine. Really, please, start using this right now. I think the tools will be fine. The core tools are already fine. -- Russ Allbery (r...@stanford.edu) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>

Re: On verbatim paragraphs immediately following an =item command; and Pod::Simple

2012-02-18 Thread Russ Allbery
erbatimFormatted* >> --over-bullet >> --Document It looks like I work around this in Pod::Man and Pod::Text by accident, and in a way that might actually break if this were fixed. Hrm. I can't tell for sure. I *think* it would be okay anyway, but I'm not positive. I'm not sure how the method calls would change if this behavior were changed. Basically, at present, I'm assuming that all the paragraphs are inside the item until I see another item, whether they're passed in as the text of the item or not. -- Russ Allbery (r...@stanford.edu) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>

Re: pod checker that finds missing internal links?

2012-01-29 Thread Russ Allbery
enerate an index. > I guess that candidate converters that could use X<..> are converters to > formats where index entries exist, such as DocBook and maybe LaTeX. And *roff, although admittedly there probably aren't that many people who use Pod::Man to generate printable documents rath

Re: Deprecation of alternate text in hyperlinks

2012-01-24 Thread Russ Allbery
y the fact that I, as maintainer of Pod::Man, have supported anchor text for URL L<> links from the beginning and opposed this restriction from the start. The restriction has nothing to do with targetting man pages. -- Russ Allbery (r...@stanford.edu) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>

Re: Deprecation of alternate text in hyperlinks

2012-01-23 Thread Russ Allbery
The parsing issues are not that serious. I think this syntax should be undeprecated and declared officially blessed. -- Russ Allbery (r...@stanford.edu) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>

Re: Removal of specific Pod::Checker warnings

2011-08-11 Thread Russ Allbery
s that it was more intended to be like the warnings flag to a compiler or like use warnings in Perl: something to warn about stuff that's technically syntactically valid but probably in error. -- Russ Allbery (r...@stanford.edu) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>

Re: Removal of specific Pod::Checker warnings

2011-08-11 Thread Russ Allbery
quot;..."=end" regions. Such an itemless "=over" > ... "=back" region in Pod is equivalent in meaning to a > "..." element in HTML." > Given that there is clearly a use for =itemless =over/=back blocks, > should it still be a warning? I think no, and instead, Pod::Checker > should warn about an empty =over/=back block, one that contains nothing > but whitespace. I agree -- this one should definitely go. Thank you for your work on this! -- Russ Allbery (r...@stanford.edu) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>

Re: AW: GSoC Status Update

2011-07-17 Thread Russ Allbery
re are some bugs open in RT.) -- Russ Allbery (r...@stanford.edu) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>

Re: Z<> in =item

2011-06-26 Thread Russ Allbery
se, and I'm not sure what Pod::Simple does. -- Russ Allbery (r...@stanford.edu) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>

Re: [perl #90906] smartmatch PATCH 1 of 2 for 5.14.1: perlop.pod

2011-05-18 Thread Russ Allbery
th minor or moderate eye problems that make "average" fonts pretty unappealing and annoying, or even unreadable. And the first example made the "Like" column mostly unuseful if one can't widen the screen. (Forced line wrapping on a narrow screen isn't *too* bad for te

Re: pod2html and Pod::Simple

2011-05-04 Thread Russ Allbery
y uses Pod::Simple and remove the old one. -- Russ Allbery (r...@stanford.edu) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>

Re: Blanks and underscores in html links

2011-04-26 Thread Russ Allbery
ing is actually: > | =head2 Switch statements > | X X X X X > Everything up to the paragraph separator is part of the headline. Yeah, but they're still basically trailing whitespace. I think this is a (minor) bug in whatever module generated that HTML. It should strip trailing white

Re: How can one put a table into a pod

2011-04-25 Thread Russ Allbery
formats. Which is what I was assuming that Karl was doing. -- Russ Allbery (r...@stanford.edu) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>

Re: How can one put a table into a pod

2011-04-23 Thread Russ Allbery
meone feels energetic, they could then improve that. -- Russ Allbery (r...@stanford.edu) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>

Re: How can one put a table into a pod

2011-04-23 Thread Russ Allbery
c.). I don't object to supporting it in Pod::Text and Pod::Man, but I'd have to ask someone else to write the initial implementation. I think support in Pod::Man at least would be fairly important before deciding to add tables to Perl's core documentation, but the research

podlators 2.4.0 released

2010-10-10 Thread Russ Allbery
0.tar.gz size: 94197 bytes md5: 12f9440cb0dda67cf089d7a4b28f7329 Changes since the previous release: 2010-10-10 Russ Allbery * VERSION: podlators 2.4.0 released. * scripts/pod2man: Remove the code to generate the #! line and supporting code and instead rely on ExtU

Re: `=item 1. Text` Doesn't Produce Ordered List Item

2010-07-22 Thread Russ Allbery
"David E. Wheeler" writes: > On Jul 22, 2010, at 2:38 PM, Russ Allbery wrote: >> That's not because "=item * Stuff" is being specially recognized. >> That's because "=item " where isn't a bullet or a >> number produces an unorde

Re: `=item 1. Text` Doesn't Produce Ordered List Item

2010-07-22 Thread Russ Allbery
x27;s because "=item " where isn't a bullet or a number produces an unordered list. perlpodspec does say that, although I admit I had to read it a couple of times. -- Russ Allbery (r...@stanford.edu) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>

Re: pod2html and Pod::Simple

2010-07-21 Thread Russ Allbery
elpful in getting pod2man switched over. > 6) But I similarly-and-worse forgot to produce a /drop-in/ pod2man > replacement. That's okay, I did that. :) -- Russ Allbery (r...@stanford.edu) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>

Re: `=item 1. Text` Doesn't Produce Ordered List Item

2010-07-20 Thread Russ Allbery
latter is a description list. I think pod2html is wrong here. -- Russ Allbery (r...@stanford.edu) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>

Re: Why does Pod::Checker deprecate section numbers in links to man pages?

2010-05-29 Thread Russ Allbery
se. So this is a bad thing to deprecate. -- Russ Allbery (r...@stanford.edu) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>

Re: Ansi color tag

2010-04-16 Thread Russ Allbery
S: I know I can embed HTML but the man pages can't display those. I'm afraid man pages also can't display color. Did you already know about Pod::Text::Color? -- Russ Allbery (r...@stanford.edu) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>

Re: [rt.cpan.org #55602] Bug #12239 was a mistake (nested formatting codes)

2010-03-16 Thread Russ Allbery
Allison Randal writes: > Russ Allbery wrote: >> This is not the sort of thing that one gets to change retroactively, >> I'm afraid, no matter how nice it would be for consistency. > Agreed on keeping Perl 5 pod changes minimal, but I thought it always > worked that wa

Re: [rt.cpan.org #55602] Bug #12239 was a mistake (nested formatting codes)

2010-03-16 Thread Russ Allbery
always have since the syntax was introduced, and changing that is a huge failure of backward compatibility with existing documents. Likewise with not forcing people to escape every angle bracket, only the ones that look like formatting codes. This is not the sort of thing that one gets to change

podlators 2.3.0 released

2009-12-28 Thread Russ Allbery
with Pod::Text subclasses, suppresses formatting in the NAME section of man pages, and fixes a few other bugs. Note that Pod::Simple 3.06 or later is now required. Changes since previous release: 2009-12-28 Russ Allbery * VERSION: podlators 2.3.0 released. * lib/Pod/Man.pm

Re: Pod::Simple fullstop_space_harden Attribute

2009-12-12 Thread Russ Allbery
t support preserve_whitespace, so I don't believe there's anything that needs to be changed in it. -- Russ Allbery (r...@stanford.edu) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>

Re: Pod::Simple "simplification"

2009-12-10 Thread Russ Allbery
and what the hell is going on. I think that would be awesome. I end up having to read source code whenever I have to interact with it since the documentation for people writing POD translators leaves a lot to be desired. -- Russ Allbery (r...@stanford.edu) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>

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