Actually, many thoughtful Jews are raising serious questions about the
viability of Zionism as an ideology and as a practical political project. If
you know the history of Zionism in detail, the questions and doubts were there
from the very beginning, from the instant that Theodor Herzl
If you really believe Zionism is equivalent to Nazism, I really don't know what
to say. It's like asking me to reconstruct reality for you.
And if you DON'T recognize that the US has effectively functioned globally as
a messianic Anglo-Christian state, then you might at least review the past
You know, if the United States were formally defined as an Anglo-Christian
state, in the same way that Israel is formally defined as a Jewish state, and
if Anglo-Christians treated Jews the same way that Israelis treat Palestinians,
I think you would be screaming bloody murder.
But the truth
Ethnic philanthropy -- philanthropy directed at one's own ethnic group -- would
seem to be an obvious case of altruism serving as a cover for the selfish
desire to improve one's personal competitive advantage vis-a-vis the rest of
the human race by improving the competitive advantage of one's
tim_howells_1000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
These are areas where the general public has moved far ahead of academia. Most
people are very comfortable now with the idea that there are genetic and
biological bases for human behavior, and accept this as established
I read New Scientist, Science, Nature and Scientific American regularly, and my
impression is that there is a major trend in the scientific world linking human
behavior and personality traits with genetic factors. You haven't noticed
this? Do you disagree? This area of research could prove
Sean
Is your opposition to ethnocentrism linked genetic factors?
Sean McBride [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I read
New Scientist, Science, Nature and Scientific American regularly, and my
impression is that there is a major trend in the scientific world linking
It might well be -- I wouldn't be surprised to discover that most aspects of
human behavior, personality and temperament are strongly influenced by genetic
factors. Why should this be so difficult to believe?
Why are some fruit flies more adventurous, more possessed of the pioneering
spirit,
Actually, as far as I understand, ALL aspects of human behavior, personality
and temperament are ENTIRELY the outcome of genetic factors. Genetic factors
being understood here as that which puts together a human being. All its saying
is that we are who/what we are. You seem to be leaning
Sean McBride [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Elucidate: you are saying that there is a genetic basis for diseases like
Tay-Sachs and sickle cell anemia among certain ethnic groups, but there is a
not a genetic basis for mental and personality traits among certain
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Sean, if you can consider a white fascist like Macdonald--who represents the
dominant ethnic group in America to be less dangerous than ideologues who
happen to be member of a tiny minority group, and who (please try to wrap your
brain around this) do not speak for that minority
You're extremely emotional about Jewish subjects, aren't you. For instance, do
you find discussion about the role of the Israel lobby in dominatingAmerican
Mideast policy, and helping to create a foreign policy catastrophe in Iraq, to
be personally threatening? One definitely gets that
tim_howells_1000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
MacDonald approached these issues from a scientific rather than a political
perspective. What you and most seem to be saying is that the conclusions he
has reached are just too terrible to contemplate, so he has to be
An important point: I don't get the impression that Kevin MacDonald and his
more intelligent defenders are white supremacists or Nazis (and certainly not
Tim). They have probably noticed that Jewish ethnic nationalists
(neoconservatives in particular) have inflicted enormous damage on American
On 7/6/07, Sean McBride [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
An important point: I don't get the impression that Kevin MacDonald and
his more intelligent defenders are white supremacists or Nazis (and certainly
not Tim).
Oh really?
http://www.google.com/search?q=kevin+macdonald+stormfront
http://www.thenation.com/docprint.mhtml?i=20060410s=blumenthal
...Though Taylor scrubbed all traces of explicit anti-Semitism from
the conference's official program, there were signs of it elsewhere.
Besides the ubiquitous Duke, whom Taylor permitted to register for the
first time in his
Please post some direct quotes from Kevin MacDonald which express an ethnic
supremacist point of view, or which advocate violating the civil rights of
particular ethnic groups. MacDonald's essay on the neoconservatives, which was
posted here, strikes me as being much more moderate than any
One can use an understanding of ethnocentric behavioral patterns to fan the
flames of ethnic conflict or to try to reduce ethnic conflict. Is MacDonald
himself an ethnic nationalist, even an ethnic militant, who, underneath the
veneer of rational scientific inquiry, is emotionally focused on
I got the impression from reading some of his writings that MacDonald has
organized the world around a struggle between Jewish and European ethnic
interests and values. Am I wrong on this point? At root, is he a European
(white) ethnic nationalist?
If he is, that doesn't make him any worse
Ok, I hear you. And many Jews and Christians do in fact buy into the entire
Jews vs. the nations Armageddon scenario, as you know. They are in our face
on a daily basis, and their howl is growing louder.
But friction and warfare among a bewildering array of ethnic groups have been a
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