Re: status during email life ...

2009-11-13 Thread Stéphane MERLE
Hi, Victor Duchovni a écrit : 2009-11-12T10:59:33-0500 amnesiac postfix/qmgr[1706]: A323688C523: removed 2009-11-12T10:59:33-0500 amnesiac postfix/smtp[29704]: 71FDF88C221: to=jlu...@example.com, relay=mail.example.com[192.168.0.1]:25, delay=0.15, delays=0.01/0/0.03/0.12,

Re: status during email life ...

2009-11-13 Thread Stéphane MERLE
Hi, Wietse Venema a écrit : St�phane MERLE: I just saw that those mail are sent to n...@localhost : 8652C2E741C6: to=n...@localhost, orig_to=john@distdomain.com, relay=local, delay=0.02, delays=0.01/0/0/0.01, dsn=5.1.1, status=bounced (unknown user: null) surely because I set :

Re: status during email life ...

2009-11-13 Thread Wietse Venema
St??phane MERLE: Hi, Wietse Venema a ?crit : St?phane MERLE: I just saw that those mail are sent to n...@localhost : 8652C2E741C6: to=n...@localhost, orig_to=john@distdomain.com, relay=local, delay=0.02, delays=0.01/0/0/0.01, dsn=5.1.1, status=bounced (unknown user:

Re: status during email life ...

2009-11-13 Thread Stéphane MERLE
Wietse Venema a écrit : Sorry, that is NOT a good reason to throw away rejected mail. When non-spam mail is rejected, the sender needs to know. It is up to the sender to deal with this, not the MTA operator. When people are sending real spam to hotmail, then silencing Postfix is not the proper

Re: status during email life ...

2009-11-13 Thread Wietse Venema
St?phane MERLE: Wietse Venema a ?crit : Sorry, that is NOT a good reason to throw away rejected mail. When non-spam mail is rejected, the sender needs to know. It is up to the sender to deal with this, not the MTA operator. When people are sending real spam to hotmail, then silencing

Re: status during email life ...

2009-11-13 Thread Stéphane MERLE
I will not post instructions to throw away non-delivery notices. I know that people would mis-use this to cover up their mistakes so that their users don't find out that mail was mis-handled. If you have a specialized need that never needs to deliver NDRs, then it is easy enough to edit the

Re: status during email life ...

2009-11-13 Thread Victor Duchovni
On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 10:06:09AM +0100, St?phane MERLE wrote: This logs the delivery of a bounce message that is returned to the sender. I just saw that those mail are sent to n...@localhost : 8652C2E741C6: to=n...@localhost, orig_to=john@distdomain.com, relay=local, delay=0.02,

Re: status during email life ...

2009-11-12 Thread Victor Duchovni
On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 11:30:51AM +0100, St?phane MERLE wrote: But then, what status get and email retried without success until the end ? 2009-11-12T10:59:32-0500 amnesiac postfix/qmgr[1706]: A323688C523: from=jlu...@example.com, size=385848, nrcpt=50 (queue active)

Re: status during email life ...

2009-11-12 Thread Stéphane MERLE
Hi, Victor Duchovni a écrit : On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 11:30:51AM +0100, St?phane MERLE wrote: But then, what status get and email retried without success until the end ? 2009-11-12T10:59:32-0500 amnesiac postfix/qmgr[1706]: A323688C523: from=jlu...@example.com, size=385848,

Re: status during email life ...

2009-11-12 Thread Stéphane MERLE
Victor Duchovni a écrit : On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 05:58:01PM +0100, St?phane MERLE wrote: Victor Duchovni a ?crit : On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 11:30:51AM +0100, St?phane MERLE wrote: But then, what status get and email retried without success until the end ?

Re: status during email life ...

2009-11-12 Thread Victor Duchovni
On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 07:32:50PM +0100, St?phane MERLE wrote: Note, this is logged by qmgr(8) not the smtp(8) delivery agent, perhaps you are looking in the wrong log entries. If the message is (still) in the deferred queue, it has not expired yet. Thank you so much, I was analysing the