Re: Prevention of sending authentication via plaintext on port 25.

2016-12-03 Thread rich . greder
On 12/3/2016 at 10:45 AM, "John Fawcett" wrote: > >On 12/03/2016 05:25 PM, rich.gre...@hushmail.com wrote: >> Here I am, replying to my own post again. What I said in the >prior post wasn't entirely true. I realized that I used the wrong >password in my prior attempt.

Re: Prevention of sending authentication via plaintext on port 25.

2016-12-03 Thread rich . greder
Here I am, replying to my own post again. What I said in the prior post wasn't entirely true. I realized that I used the wrong password in my prior attempt. I am still granted access to the SMTP service after authenticating in plaintext on port 25. So I'm somewhat confused how to

Re: Prevention of sending authentication via plaintext on port 25.

2016-12-03 Thread rich . greder
I suspected that was a typo. I figured it out. I made those changes, when I attempt an AUTH LOGIN, I get back "535 5.7.8 Error: authentication failed: UGFzc3dvcmQ6" which seems to be appropriate. So the user is no longer rewarded with access to the SMTP services when they attempt to connect

Prevention of sending authentication via plaintext on port 25.

2016-12-03 Thread rich . greder
org> 250 2.1.0 Ok rcpt to: <rich.gre...@hushmail.com> 250 2.1.5 Ok data 354 End data with . From: <m...@example.org> To: Rich Greder <rich.gre...@hushmail.com> Subject: Testing This is a test. . 250 2.0.0 Ok: queued as BFDEB3FE30 quit 221 2.0.0 Bye Connection closed by foreign host.

Re: SMTP Error with Thunderbird with remote Ubuntu Server 16.04

2016-12-01 Thread rich . greder
Okay, I'm made some exciting progress and I am grateful for the help. I will show to people how I got this working At first thought, I figured that it would simply be the IMAP password used by Dovecot to access my mailbox. Not exactly true... I did some digging in some blogs and the

Re: SMTP Error with Thunderbird with remote Ubuntu Server 16.04

2016-12-01 Thread rich . greder
On 11/28/2016 at 4:56 PM, "Bill Cole" wrote: > >On 28 Nov 2016, at 17:29, rich.gre...@hushmail.com wrote: > >> I changed it. When I compose and send to an outside domain now, >I get >> an error that hints towards port 25 being strongly preferred

Re: SMTP Error with Thunderbird with remote Ubuntu Server 16.04

2016-11-28 Thread rich . greder
On 11/28/2016 at 3:25 PM, "Viktor Dukhovni" wrote: > >On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 02:59:22PM -0600, rich.gre...@hushmail.com >wrote: > >> >>smtpd_tls_cert_file=/etc/letsencrypt/live/example.com/fullchain.pe >m >> >>

Re: SMTP Error with Thunderbird with remote Ubuntu Server 16.04

2016-11-28 Thread rich . greder
On 11/28/2016 at 1:28 PM, "Viktor Dukhovni" wrote: > >> On Nov 28, 2016, at 2:13 PM, rich.gre...@hushmail.com wrote: >> >> # TLS parameters >> smtpd_tls_loglevel = 1; > >If that ';' is really there, get rid of it. > Got rid of it. C habits are hard to break. Good

Re: SMTP Error with Thunderbird with remote Ubuntu Server 16.04

2016-11-28 Thread rich . greder
Okay, Victor, thanks for the stats in the second email! That is quite interesting to read. I have only recently (this summer) heard of LetsEncrypt.org. Up until that point, I had expected that I was condemned by powers-that-be to buy a key annually forever. Oh yeah, I love the "smoke and

Re: SMTP Error with Thunderbird with remote Ubuntu Server 16.04

2016-11-28 Thread rich . greder
Okay, I am already using letsencrypt.org for my port 443 traffic. So once I have it extended to also cover SMPT on port 587, would it be acceptable to disable port 25, or is port 25 still needed (perhaps to suggest to clients that it isn't accepting any traffic except 587) I have to admit, I

Re: SMTP Error with Thunderbird with remote Ubuntu Server 16.04

2016-11-28 Thread rich . greder
I should make clear in the post that u...@example.com is the IMAP mailbox name and that m...@example.com is a virtual alias. This machine hosts about 8 domains and has, I think, three mailboxes. I am the sole user of the email system. On 11/28/2016 at 11:58 AM, rich.gre...@hushmail.com wrote:

Re: SMTP Error with Thunderbird with remote Ubuntu Server 16.04

2016-11-28 Thread rich . greder
Okay, I am really curious how this works then. Good catch on the 'www' test. I winged it without reading the manpage. I've never known a good starting point for learning DNS, so that is definitely a weak point. So, now that the DNS is out of the way. I'm going to dig deeper here. When I

SMTP Error with Thunderbird with remote Ubuntu Server 16.04

2016-11-28 Thread rich . greder
Hello, First, email has been working fine on this server for past several months while using the Squirrelmail web client located on the same server. I am needing an alternative method to access mail services and decided, on a whim, to try Thunderbird. Thunderbird interacted with the Dovecot

Re: SMTP Error with Thunderbird with remote Ubuntu Server 16.04

2016-11-28 Thread rich . greder
Okay, I accidentally sent this half-composed. But yes. I was able to send via SMTP, but only if my destination address was on my machine (which is probably good) Maybe since I sent this, I let people deliver their opinions on if this is an MX record issue first. Thanks Rick On 11/28/2016