Re: Average, Best and Worst: Cost and Time to Produce Software Code

2011-06-08 Thread John Zabroski
The time it takes to get things done in software is based on what the software language abstracts versus what the person is trying to express. For example, if I have a tool that can automatically display information from a relational database, and the only thing I want to express is displaying inf

Re: Average, Best and Worst: Cost and Time to Produce Software Code

2011-05-11 Thread Richard O'Keefe
On 11/05/2011, at 10:25 PM, Paola Kathuria wrote: > > 2) is a call to an existing function "re-use"? > > I've been the PHP developer for the-racehorse.com since 2006 and > have produced over 30,000 lines of code. However, I'm calling > some functions written earlier in new code? Is that counted

Re: Average, Best and Worst: Cost and Time to Produce Software Code

2011-05-11 Thread Paola Kathuria
John Domingue wrote: > I would like to convey to a non-computer scientist > audience the significant effort that goes into software production in > order to motivate software and component re-use. Otherwise a naive > person may ask "why not just create the software you need on demand > every time?"

Re: Average, Best and Worst: Cost and Time to Produce Software Code

2011-05-11 Thread John Domingue
Hi Frank, at the risk of going off topic for this list there are several reasons for targeting non-specialists. Lindsay mentioned funding agencies to which I would add below. At the Open University we have a general background interest in this as we do not have formal requirements for our c

RE: Average, Best and Worst: Cost and Time to Produce Software Code

2011-05-11 Thread Lindsay Marshall
>+ in all seriousness, who cares what naïve people think about anything? Quite often they are controlling the purse strings. (though who has a purse with strings these days? Surely it at least has a zip) L. -- The Open University is incorporated by Royal Charter (RC 000391), an exempt charit

Re: Average, Best and Worst: Cost and Time to Produce Software Code

2011-05-11 Thread Frank Wales
Hi, John. John Domingue wrote: John and Paola, thanks for your comments. I understand that there are many variables. I would like to convey to a non-computer scientist audience the significant effort that goes into software production in order to motivate software and component re-use. It's

Re: Average, Best and Worst: Cost and Time to Produce Software Code

2011-05-11 Thread John Domingue
Thanks a lot Richard and John for the extensive comments. These more than satisfy my needs. best John On 11 May 2011, at 04:20, Richard O'Keefe wrote: On 10/05/2011, at 5:55 PM, John Domingue wrote: John and Paola, thanks for your comments. I understand that there are many variables. I

Re: Average, Best and Worst: Cost and Time to Produce Software Code

2011-05-10 Thread Richard O'Keefe
On 10/05/2011, at 5:55 PM, John Domingue wrote: > John and Paola, thanks for your comments. I understand that there are many > variables. I would like to convey to a non-computer scientist audience the > significant effort that goes into software production in order to motivate > software and

Re: Average, Best and Worst: Cost and Time to Produce Software Code

2011-05-10 Thread John Daughtry
That argument is fairly easy to make... 1. it takes a long time to write code (even if you already know all your requirements, and they don't change) 2. In writing that code, programmers make lots of mistakes 3. Each bug takes a LONG time to fix Thus, reusing any components you can is a real

Re: Average, Best and Worst: Cost and Time to Produce Software Code

2011-05-10 Thread John Domingue
John and Paola, thanks for your comments. I understand that there are many variables. I would like to convey to a non-computer scientist audience the significant effort that goes into software production in order to motivate software and component re-use. Otherwise a naive person may ask "w

Re: Average, Best and Worst: Cost and Time to Produce Software Code

2011-05-09 Thread Paola Kathuria
John Domingue wrote: > I'm looking for pointers to how much time and cost is associated with > producing software code. I am somewhat flumoxed by this question. What kind of an answer were you expecting? The time to produce code can depend on: - what one is trying to build - what it's built from