[OT] Jedi Cat vs Pitbull

2012-04-03 Thread Michael Madigan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1gusAIRN8M  ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive:

Re: [NF] Munich and Schwäbisch Hall dump winders

2012-04-03 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
On 4/3/2012 12:59 AM, Michael Madigan wrote: Why not just standardize on open source programs that run on windows? I've been using Open office for years without a problem . I saw MS Office in a Dell catalog mailer advertised for something like $239. I thought I'm glad OpenOffice suits my

[NF] I wonder if I'll ever see the name Gartner and not feel disgust

2012-04-03 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
http://gigaom.com/cloud/gartner-to-it-get-a-grip-on-cloud-services-or-else/?utm_source=twitterfeedutm_medium=twitter Because of the past, I feel disgust every time I see Gartner's advice. Wonder if that'll ever change? ___ Post Messages to:

[NF] Vendor specifically excluded IE for their app

2012-04-03 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
http://techcrunch.com/2012/04/01/bootstrapped-startup-saves-over-100k-by-dropping-ie/ WowI thought if you designed things in a neutral fashion, they're supposed to work on all of the browsers? -- Mike Babcock, MCP MB Software Solutions, LLC President, Chief Software Architect

[OT] Ds forge election docs

2012-04-03 Thread Pete Theisen
Hi Everybody, So, what else is new? http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/04/02/4-indiana-dems-charged-with-election-fraud-in-2008/ -- Regards, Pete http://pete-theisen.com/ http://elect-pete-theisen.com/ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com

Re: [NF] Vendor specifically excluded IE for their app

2012-04-03 Thread Alan Bourke
Interesting article although as many of the commenters point out - how much of the decision is a marketing exercise ... -- Alan Bourke alanpbourke (at) fastmail (dot) fm ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance:

Re: [NF] Vendor specifically excluded IE for their app

2012-04-03 Thread Ed Leafe
On Apr 3, 2012, at 6:54 AM, MB Software Solutions, LLC wrote: http://techcrunch.com/2012/04/01/bootstrapped-startup-saves-over-100k-by-dropping-ie/ WowI thought if you designed things in a neutral fashion, they're supposed to work on all of the browsers? Supposed to is the key

Re: [NF] Vendor specifically excluded IE for their app

2012-04-03 Thread Pete Theisen
Ed Leafe wrote: On Apr 3, 2012, at 6:54 AM, MB Software Solutions, LLC wrote: http://techcrunch.com/2012/04/01/bootstrapped-startup-saves-over-100k-by-dropping-ie/ WowI thought if you designed things in a neutral fashion, they're supposed to work on all of the browsers?

Re: [NF] Vendor specifically excluded IE for their app

2012-04-03 Thread Stephen Russell
On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 6:54 AM, MB Software Solutions, LLC mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com wrote: http://techcrunch.com/2012/04/01/bootstrapped-startup-saves-over-100k-by-dropping-ie/ WowI thought if you designed things in a neutral fashion, they're supposed to work on all of

Re: [NF] Vendor specifically excluded IE for their app

2012-04-03 Thread Alan Bourke
htmlhello world/html That'll work on all browsers. On Tue, Apr 3, 2012, at 08:14 AM, Stephen Russell wrote: On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 6:54 AM, MB Software Solutions, LLC mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com wrote:

[NF] Hosted time sheet and expense tracking service?

2012-04-03 Thread Malcolm Greene
Looking for recommendations for a hosted time sheet/expense tracking service. In the past I've used basecamphq.com for tracking hours, but I haven't used any 3rd party expense tracking services. Google shows a gazillion hits on this product niche - I'm looking for some hands-on recommendations

Re: [NF] Vendor specifically excluded IE for their app

2012-04-03 Thread Paul Hill
On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 2:41 PM, Alan Bourke alanpbou...@fastmail.fm wrote: htmlhello world/html That'll work on all browsers. Except for those looking for a body tag :-) On Tue, Apr 3, 2012, at 08:14 AM, Stephen Russell wrote: On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 6:54 AM, MB Software Solutions, LLC

Re: [NF] Hosted time sheet and expense tracking service?

2012-04-03 Thread Tracy Pearson
Malcolm Greene pro...@bdurham.com wrote: Looking for recommendations for a hosted time sheet/expense tracking service. In the past I've used basecamphq.com for tracking hours, but I haven't used any 3rd party expense tracking services. Google shows a gazillion hits on this product niche - I'm

Re: [NF] Vendor specifically excluded IE for their app

2012-04-03 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
On 4/3/2012 9:14 AM, Stephen Russell wrote: On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 6:54 AM, MB Software Solutions, LLC mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com wrote: http://techcrunch.com/2012/04/01/bootstrapped-startup-saves-over-100k-by-dropping-ie/ WowI thought if you designed things in a neutral

Re: [NF] Vendor specifically excluded IE for their app

2012-04-03 Thread Peter Cushing
MB Software Solutions, LLC wrote: http://techcrunch.com/2012/04/01/bootstrapped-startup-saves-over-100k-by-dropping-ie/ WowI thought if you designed things in a neutral fashion, they're supposed to work on all of the browsers? Notice the date of the article: April 1st :-) Although

Re: [NF] I wonder if I'll ever see the name Gartner and not feel disgust

2012-04-03 Thread Ted Roche
On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 12:08 PM, AndyD jarnd...@gmail.com wrote: Back in the mists of time I read that self-same article by Gartner Group rejoicing in how PC's were freeing end-users from the mainframe dinosaurs in the IT department - what goes around comes around! AndyD 8-)₹ I read about a

Re: [NF] Vendor specifically excluded IE for their app

2012-04-03 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
On 4/3/2012 12:58 PM, Peter Cushing wrote: MB Software Solutions, LLC wrote: http://techcrunch.com/2012/04/01/bootstrapped-startup-saves-over-100k-by-dropping-ie/ WowI thought if you designed things in a neutral fashion, they're supposed to work on all of the browsers? Notice the date

Re: [OT] People don't want to work

2012-04-03 Thread Jerry Wolper
Here are some interviews with employers. They cannot find enough people who want to work. The people are finding they make more by collecting unemployment benefits, food stamps, etc. Or they work three months to qualify for unemployment then leave. Um, if you're not paying enough to compete

RE: [NF] I wonder if I'll ever see the name Gartner and not feel disgust

2012-04-03 Thread Lou Syracuse
Burn me once, shame on you. Burn me twice, shame on me. Then again, I've learned never to say 'never'. lol ls -Original Message- From: profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Ted Roche Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 10:19 AM To:

Re: [NF] I wonder if I'll ever see the name Gartner and not feel disgust

2012-04-03 Thread Stephen Russell
On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 12:38 PM, Lou Syracuse l...@iconmediadirect.com wrote: Burn me once, shame on you. Burn me twice, shame on me. Then again, I've learned never to say 'never'.   lol --- Romeo Void? Never Say Never -- Stephen Russell 901.246-0159 cell

Re: [NF] I wonder if I'll ever see the name Gartner and not feel disgust

2012-04-03 Thread M Jarvis
Romeo Void?  Never Say Never -- Stephen Russell First time I remember hearing the phrase was when Scotty said it on the original Star Trek -- Matt Jarvis Eugene, Oregon USA ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance:

strategy

2012-04-03 Thread Gary Jeurink
I am a quadriplegic and type with a rubber based stick. I hate typing two-key items like ctrl+a then ctrl+c. I'm using the edge of my pinkie knuckle (left hand) for the ctrl. Lately I'm constantly filling out website forms with credit card numbers, email addresses etc. Since I database all my info

RE: strategy

2012-04-03 Thread Tracy Pearson
Gary Jeurink wrote on 2012-04-03: I am a quadriplegic and type with a rubber based stick. I hate typing two-key items like ctrl+a then ctrl+c. I'm using the edge of my pinkie knuckle (left hand) for the ctrl. Lately I'm constantly filling out website forms with credit card numbers, email

[OT] Uncle Obama illegal since '92

2012-04-03 Thread Pete Theisen
Hi Everybody, http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/04/03/obamas-uncle-gets-massachusetts-drivers-license-back-after-drunk-driving-arrest/?intcmp=trending Busted for drunk driving, he not only is NOT being deported, he is getting to drive again after a DUI. -- Regards, Pete

Re: [OT] Uncle Obama illegal since '92

2012-04-03 Thread Stephen Russell
On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 2:46 PM, Pete Theisen petethei...@verizon.net wrote: Hi Everybody, http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/04/03/obamas-uncle-gets-massachusetts-drivers-license-back-after-drunk-driving-arrest/?intcmp=trending Busted for drunk driving, he not only is NOT being deported, he

[OT] Palestine is not a state

2012-04-03 Thread Pete Theisen
Hi Everybody, Interesting decision: http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/2012/04/20124318028457229.html -- Regards, Pete http://pete-theisen.com/ http://elect-pete-theisen.com/ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance:

Re: strategy

2012-04-03 Thread Eurico Chagas Filho
Gary.  You should try a hardware solution, like a special keyboard that could be plugged in a USB slot. You would free yourself from software, from OS and you could go anywhere and change keyboards and you are on. HTH, E.   I am a quadriplegic and type with a rubber based stick. I hate typing  

Re: [OT] People don't want to work

2012-04-03 Thread Michael Madigan
Unfortunately some businesses don't have the profit margins to increase salaries.    If you own a hamburger franchise, you're locked in on the price you can charge, so you have to hire people under a certain wage.   When the government pays people for TWO YEARS to stay home and collect a check

Re: [OT] Palestine is not a state

2012-04-03 Thread Michael Madigan
And they don't want to investigate war crimes against the Palestinians.   - Original Message - From: Pete Theisen petethei...@verizon.net To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Cc: Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2012 4:42 PM Subject: [OT] Palestine is not a state Hi Everybody, Interesting

RE: Help, my fox is acting up again! This time the menu builder...

2012-04-03 Thread Tracy Pearson
Michael Savage wrote on 2012-04-03: Now my vfp 9 IDE is giving me grief with the menu builder (genmenu.prg). When I try to run it, I get the following error Must Specify Additional Parameters This the line that it bombs out at. PARAMETER m.projdbf, m.recno Why now??? If I run

Re: [NF] Munich and Schwäbisch Hall dump winders

2012-04-03 Thread Michael Madigan
That's why I think using a Windows O/S while also using open source programs is the absolute best way to go.      - Original Message - From: Alan Bourke alanpbou...@fastmail.fm To: profox@leafe.com Cc: Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2012 6:21 AM Subject: Re: [NF] Munich and Schwäbisch Hall

RE: strategy

2012-04-03 Thread Kent Belan
Hello Gary, Could you use the mouse right click button ? If so, I have code in my textbox base classes that on a mouse right click, pops up a menu to select copy and paste options. Let me know if this might help and I will send you the code ? Thanks, Kent -Original Message- From:

RE: strategy

2012-04-03 Thread Kurt Wendt
Gary - Mr. E. just got me thinking. What about Voice commands? I think voice recognition is supposedly much better these days, so you should be able to use something - even if its only for Some commands - like Hotkeys or Ctrl key commands. Anyway - it's just a thought... -K- -Original

RE: Help, my fox is acting up again! This time the menu builder...

2012-04-03 Thread Kurt Wendt
Tracy - I was gonna suggest the same thing. Except - if I understand the problem - its occurring within VFP's own tools - as in when he tries to compile or edit the menu - and he's not actually passing in ANYTHING when this is actually occurring - as I think its VFP that's passing Something to

RE: Help, my fox is acting up again! This time the menu builder...

2012-04-03 Thread Tracy Pearson
Kurt Wendt wrote on 2012-04-03: Tracy - I was gonna suggest the same thing. Except - if I understand the problem - its occurring within VFP's own tools - as in when he tries to compile or edit the menu - and he's not actually passing in ANYTHING when this is actually occurring - as I

[NF] Are there any good memory testers that don't require booting from the CD?

2012-04-03 Thread Michael Madigan
I have a client who has a laptop that appears to have RAM problems.   Is there a good memory tester that doesn't require booting from a CD?   I want to be able to do this remotely.  I've tested memory with a few DELL diagnostic tools but everything checks out clean.   

Function to determin timezone

2012-04-03 Thread Jerry Foote
How can I determine with VFP the timezone and whether its daylight saving or not on a system I'm running on. Thanks Jerry --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- ___

Re: Function to determin timezone

2012-04-03 Thread M Jarvis
On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 3:52 PM, Jerry Foote jerryfo...@bellsouth.net wrote: How can I determine with VFP the timezone and whether its daylight saving or not on a system I'm running on. Thanks Jerry This link has at least C++ code for doing it - maybe you can translate it?

Re: [NF] Munich and Schwäbisch Hall dump winders

2012-04-03 Thread Ricardo Araoz
El 03/04/12 01:33, Christof Wollenhaupt escribió: http://www.infoworld.com/t/platforms/nine-german-cities-poised-adopt-linux-676 M$ chickens coming home to roost. That was nine years ago. A few years later these cities have stopped their plans to move everything over to Linux realizing that

Re: [NF] Munich and Schwäbisch Hall dump winders

2012-04-03 Thread Ricardo Araoz
El 03/04/12 02:20, Christof Wollenhaupt escribió: Munich is still happy: http://www.computerworlduk.com/news/public-sector/3348475/munich-mayor-says-switch-linux-is-much-cheaper-reduced-complaints/ Yes. Munich is also showing the scope of the switch. Despite being started almost a decade

Re: [NF] Munich and Schwäbisch Hall dump winders

2012-04-03 Thread Ricardo Araoz
El 03/04/12 07:21, Alan Bourke escribió: Local gubmint adopting FOSS is great but they will hit the same hurdles as business hits - too much of the software they need doesn't exist on Linux. All the folks just doing word processing and email - great. Get the foot in the door with those people,

Re: [OT] People don't want to work

2012-04-03 Thread Ricardo Araoz
El 03/04/12 18:27, Michael Madigan escribió: Unfortunately some businesses don't have the profit margins to increase salaries.If you own a hamburger franchise, you're locked in on the price you can charge, so you have to hire people under a certain wage. And you want people to starve

Re: [OT] People don't want to work

2012-04-03 Thread Michael Madigan
Yes, people starve surrounded by hamburgers, fries and milkshakes.    - Original Message - From: Ricardo Araoz ricar...@gmail.com To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Cc: Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2012 8:13 PM Subject: Re: [OT] People don't want to work El 03/04/12 18:27, Michael

Re: Function to determin timezone

2012-04-03 Thread Michael Madigan
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/194576  - Original Message - From: Jerry Foote jerryfo...@bellsouth.net To: 'ProFox Email List' profox@leafe.com Cc: Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2012 6:52 PM Subject: Function to determin timezone How can I determine with VFP the timezone and whether its

Re: [NF] Munich and Schwäbisch Hall dump winders

2012-04-03 Thread Ken Dibble
Why not just standardize on open source programs that run on windows? I've been using Open office for years without a problem . I wish I could switch everybody to Open Office but the OO developers aren't making it easy. The main thing I need OO for is a substitute for MS docx and xlsx

RE: Function to determin timezone

2012-04-03 Thread Jerry Foote
Thanks for the code...It gives me the info. Thanks Jerry -Original Message- From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Michael Madigan Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 7:32 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: Function to determin timezone

Re: [NF] Vendor specifically excluded IE for their app

2012-04-03 Thread Ken Dibble
IE6 was horrendous. 7 is only slightly better; 8 finally seems to be making progress. But even 8 is way behind the other choices. Here are the only 4 reasons to ever use IE: http://thenextweb.com/shareables/2009/11/04/reasons-internet-explorer/ 5. The state developmental

Re: Function to determin timezone

2012-04-03 Thread Michael Madigan
You're welcome.  - Original Message - From: Jerry Foote jer...@footegroup.com To: 'ProFox Email List' profox@leafe.com Cc: Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2012 8:47 PM Subject: RE: Function to determin timezone Thanks for the code...It gives me the info. Thanks Jerry -Original

Re: [NF] Vendor specifically excluded IE for their app

2012-04-03 Thread Michael Madigan
Steve spelled You're correctly?   ::grasping chest, having heart attack:: - Original Message - From: Stephen Russell srussell...@gmail.com To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Cc: Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2012 9:14 AM Subject: Re: [NF] Vendor specifically excluded IE for their app On

Re: [NF] Vendor specifically excluded IE for their app

2012-04-03 Thread Sytze de Boer
Now all of this is all very well but how do I avoid IE (if I wanted to) when using VFP For example, several of my modules use the statement loIE = Createobject('InternetExplorer.Application') Is there an alternative ? On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 1:25 PM, Michael Madigan mmadi10...@yahoo.com wrote:

RE: [NF] Vendor specifically excluded IE for their app

2012-04-03 Thread John Harvey
Sure there is an alternative. Oie=createobject('internetexplorer.application') And Oie=newobject('internetexplorer.application') And oie=GETOBJECT('','internetexplorer.application') Geez that was easy. Lol John Harvey -Original Message- From: profox-boun...@leafe.com

Re: [NF] Vendor specifically excluded IE for their app

2012-04-03 Thread Sytze de Boer
All 3 are IE I was asking for an alternative to IE S On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 1:34 PM, John Harvey john.har...@shelbynet.com wrote: Sure there is an alternative. Oie=createobject('internetexplorer.application') And Oie=newobject('internetexplorer.application') And

RE: [NF] Vendor specifically excluded IE for their app

2012-04-03 Thread John Harvey
I know. It was a joke. Lol john -Original Message- From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Sytze de Boer Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 8:39 PM To: profox@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] Vendor specifically excluded IE for their app All 3 are IE I was

[ADMIN] Site maintenance

2012-04-03 Thread Ed Leafe
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RE: strategy

2012-04-03 Thread Gary Jeurink
A lot of good ideas, thanks you guys... for now I'm going to make F12 a macro to ctrl+a, ctrl+c then I go back to web page and paste... I was having a bad day and instead of ctrl+a, ctrl+c selecting all/copy, I kept erasing the field and if esc wasn't the next key to hit... I was screwed. I have

Re: [ADMIN] Site maintenance

2012-04-03 Thread Ed Leafe
On Apr 3, 2012, at 9:28 PM, Ed Leafe wrote: I will be doing some maintenance tonight on the cloud server that hosts these lists, as well as the dabodev.com and leafe.com sites, so they will be unavailable at times. If all goes well, this downtime should be minimal. The

Re: [NF] Vendor specifically excluded IE for their app

2012-04-03 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
On 4/3/2012 9:25 PM, Michael Madigan wrote: Steve spelled You're correctly? ::grasping chest, having heart attack:: It's time for me too get to bed. gdr -- Mike Babcock, MCP MB Software Solutions, LLC President, Chief Software Architect http://mbsoftwaresolutions.com http://fabmate.com