Re: [NF] Thunderbird woes

2008-11-27 Thread Stephen Russell
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 2:32 PM, Michael Madigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm with you Malcolm. I use yahoo professional mail and never bother with a mail client. I'm always amused how many small offices set up exchange server and then only use it for email anyway, when for $1.00 a person

Re: [NF] Thunderbird woes

2008-11-27 Thread Paul Hill
On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 5:43 PM, Stephen Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 2:32 PM, Michael Madigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm with you Malcolm. I use yahoo professional mail and never bother with a mail client. I'm always amused how many small offices set up

RE: [NF] Thunderbird woes

2008-11-27 Thread Geoff Flight
To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [NF] Thunderbird woes On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 2:32 PM, Michael Madigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm with you Malcolm. I use yahoo professional mail and never bother with a mail client. I'm always amused how many small offices set up exchange server and then only

Re: [NF] Thunderbird woes

2008-11-27 Thread Paul McNett
Stephen Russell wrote: On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 2:32 PM, Michael Madigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm with you Malcolm. I use yahoo professional mail and never bother with a mail client. I'm always amused how many small offices set up exchange server and then only use it for email anyway,

Re: [NF] Thunderbird woes

2008-11-27 Thread Paul McNett
Paul McNett wrote: Or, I'm not willing to sacrifice my good name by trusting that some huge company isn't going to change a policy or make a mistake and screw my customer. Much better to have on-site mail services. But there's *no way* that would ever be an Exchange Server. Let me

Re: [NF] Thunderbird woes

2008-11-27 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
Malcolm Greene wrote: Ricardo, At the risk of sounding like a broken record or commercial, you may want to check out a hosted email provider like Gmail or Fastmail. The 4 big benefits of using a hosted email client vs. a local email client: - no hassles with Outlook, Thunderbird, etc. -

Re: [NF] Thunderbird woes

2008-11-27 Thread Paul McNett
Ricardo Aráoz wrote: Malcolm Greene wrote: Ricardo, At the risk of sounding like a broken record or commercial, you may want to check out a hosted email provider like Gmail or Fastmail. The 4 big benefits of using a hosted email client vs. a local email client: - no hassles with Outlook,

Re: [NF] Thunderbird woes

2008-11-26 Thread Jeff Johnson
What is w$? Jeff Jeff Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] SanDC, Inc. 623-582-0323 Fax 623-869-0675 Phoenix Python User Group - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ricardo Aráoz wrote: I won't go to the trouble of finding out what to install through w$ ___ Post Messages

Re: [NF] Thunderbird woes

2008-11-26 Thread Malcolm Greene
Ricardo, At the risk of sounding like a broken record or commercial, you may want to check out a hosted email provider like Gmail or Fastmail. The 4 big benefits of using a hosted email client vs. a local email client: - no hassles with Outlook, Thunderbird, etc. - no worries about finding and

Re: [NF] Thunderbird woes

2008-11-26 Thread Michael Oke, II
Microsoft Windows. ::michael Jeff Johnson wrote: What is w$? Jeff Jeff Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] SanDC, Inc. 623-582-0323 Fax 623-869-0675 Phoenix Python User Group - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ricardo Aráoz wrote: I won't go to the trouble of finding out what to install through w$

Re: [NF] Thunderbird woes

2008-11-26 Thread Michael Madigan
, your own domain, and other features. --- On Wed, 11/26/08, Malcolm Greene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Malcolm Greene [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [NF] Thunderbird woes To: profox@leafe.com Date: Wednesday, November 26, 2008, 11:42 AM Ricardo, At the risk of sounding like a broken

[NF] Thunderbird woes

2008-11-25 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
I'm really pissed. This is the second time TB looses my profile. It happens there is a bloody file in ./Data/Profile/prefs.js that is needed by TB to keep your profile. Problem is that if the system suddenly goes down (this is f...ing w$ mates) the file gets corrupted and next time you enter

Re: [NF] Thunderbird woes

2008-11-25 Thread Ted Roche
On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 7:30 PM, Ricardo Aráoz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is a shame that this bloody program depends on something so flimsy. As flimsy as an operating system that won't just crash and take all apps with it, corrupting open files? I agree... Well, it is ranked as Bug #1:

Re: [NF] Thunderbird woes

2008-11-25 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
Ted Roche wrote: On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 7:30 PM, Ricardo Aráoz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is a shame that this bloody program depends on something so flimsy. As flimsy as an operating system that won't just crash and take all apps with it, corrupting open files? I agree...

Re: [NF] Thunderbird woes

2008-11-25 Thread Ted Roche
On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 8:13 PM, Ricardo Aráoz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yup, exactly so! I'll pass to Ubuntu as soon as they automatically recognize my wireless connections. Well, there are some pretty unreasonable manufacturers out there who aren't willing to share API info with Open Source

Re: [NF] Thunderbird woes

2008-11-25 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
Ted Roche wrote: On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 8:13 PM, Ricardo Aráoz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yup, exactly so! I'll pass to Ubuntu as soon as they automatically recognize my wireless connections. Well, there are some pretty unreasonable manufacturers out there who aren't willing to

Re: [NF] Thunderbird woes

2008-11-25 Thread Vince Teachout
Ricardo Aráoz wrote: Yup, exactly so! I'll pass to Ubuntu as soon as they automatically recognize my wireless connections. I won't go to the trouble of finding Well, the latest Ubuntu, 8.10, does a fantastic job of recognizing wireless. Unfortunately, they screwed it up, and it no longer

RE: [NF] Thunderbird woes

2008-11-25 Thread Gil Hale
be crimped, and would not be able to make use of Ubuntu like I do currently. Gil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Vince Teachout Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 9:23 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [NF] Thunderbird woes Ricardo

Re: [NF] Thunderbird woes

2008-11-25 Thread Vince Teachout
Gil Hale wrote: stop expecting to have options made available. Has not using Windows for the past many decades taught you anything? heh-heh... But... but.. I don't WAAANT the MS experience (You have to imagine that being said in the whiny little voice of the prince Sir Lancelot rescues