Re: [OT] People don't want to work

2012-04-08 Thread Nicholas Geti
@leafe.com Sent: Friday, April 06, 2012 7:22 PM Subject: Re: [OT] People don't want to work On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 3:19 PM, MB Software Solutions, LLC mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com wrote: The reason GM's cost is so much higher compared to Toyota is the union. Plain and simple

Re: [OT] People don't want to work

2012-04-07 Thread Michael Madigan
No them wouldn't  Of course, and if GM would only use slaves then the costs would really go down. Wouldn't them. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list:

Re: [OT] People don't want to work

2012-04-07 Thread Ricardo Araoz
El 07/04/12 06:01, Michael Madigan escribió: No them wouldn't Of course, and if GM would only use slaves then the costs would really go down. Wouldn't them. Hahaha, thank you. My bad. OTOH, now I know some more English. I'm getting smarter. What about you?

Re: [OT] People don't want to work

2012-04-07 Thread Stephen Russell
On Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 4:01 AM, Michael Madigan mmadi10...@yahoo.com wrote: No them wouldn't Of course, and if GM would only use slaves then the costs would really go down. Wouldn't them. Buying slaves is a huge capital cost. You either wage war and take them from when

Re: [OT] People don't want to work

2012-04-07 Thread Lew Schwartz
You mean that individuals are exploiting a system which is lacking in regulation just like banks and oil companies? I wonder where they got that idea. Of course, it'd be better if all concerned stopped filling their bellies at the public trough which is supplied by debt. Who will be made to stand

Re: [OT] People don't want to work

2012-04-07 Thread Michael Madigan
Now I know some more Pig Latin.  From: Ricardo Araoz ricar...@gmail.com To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Sent: Saturday, April 7, 2012 8:42 AM Subject: Re: [OT] People don't want to work El 07/04/12 06:01, Michael Madigan escribió: No them wouldn't

Re: [OT] People don't want to work

2012-04-07 Thread Michael Madigan
Obama stopped hiring all lobbyists, right after he closed Gitmo.  Remember?  From: Lew Schwartz lew1...@gmail.com To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Sent: Saturday, April 7, 2012 12:03 PM Subject: Re: [OT] People don't want to work You mean

Re: [OT] People don't want to work

2012-04-06 Thread Ricardo Araoz
: Re: [OT] People don't want to work Oh look, it's Gaucho Marx From: Ricardo Araoz ricar...@gmail.com To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Sent: Thursday, April 5, 2012 3:33 PM Subject: Re: [OT] People don't want to work When are you people going

Re: [OT] People don't want to work

2012-04-06 Thread Michael Madigan
Oh look, it's Evita Gavone. - Original Message - From: Ricardo Araoz ricar...@gmail.com To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Cc: Sent: Friday, April 6, 2012 7:36 AM Subject: Re: [OT] People don't want to work El 06/04/12 01:18, Nicholas Geti escribió: Another good one. Yup

Re: [OT] People don't want to work

2012-04-06 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
On 4/5/2012 2:45 PM, Nicholas Geti wrote: It is amazing how you attack conjecture on my part but ignore the conjecture that Obama said how much money the health care act would save. GM and Wall Street was only billions; the health care act would cost trillions. lol) I agree that there was

Re: [OT] People don't want to work

2012-04-06 Thread Michael Oke, II
rebating my point. That is really satisfying. - Original Message - From: Michael Madigan mmadi10...@yahoo.com To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 4:00 PM Subject: Re: [OT] People don't want to work Oh look, it's Gaucho Marx

Re: [OT] People don't want to work

2012-04-06 Thread Stephen Russell
On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 3:19 PM, MB Software Solutions, LLC mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com wrote: The reason GM's cost is so much higher compared to Toyota is the union.  Plain and simple. -- It is the health care for all of the retired

Re: [OT] People don't want to work

2012-04-06 Thread Michael Madigan
It's still a union problem because they are former union members.  - Original Message - From: Stephen Russell srussell...@gmail.com To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Cc: Sent: Friday, April 6, 2012 7:22 PM Subject: Re: [OT] People don't want to work On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 3:19 PM

Re: [OT] People don't want to work

2012-04-06 Thread Ricardo Araoz
El 06/04/12 17:19, MB Software Solutions, LLC escribió: On 4/5/2012 2:45 PM, Nicholas Geti wrote: It is amazing how you attack conjecture on my part but ignore the conjecture that Obama said how much money the health care act would save. GM and Wall Street was only billions; the health care

Re: [OT] People don't want to work

2012-04-05 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
On 4/4/2012 10:39 PM, Nicholas Geti wrote: The free market when left alone solved that problem. She got canned. Sometimes things take longer than we would like but the alternative is tyranny by the government. What would the economy look like today had the government not bailed out Detroit

Re: [OT] People don't want to work

2012-04-05 Thread Nicholas Geti
: Thursday, April 05, 2012 11:49 AM Subject: Re: [OT] People don't want to work On 4/4/2012 10:39 PM, Nicholas Geti wrote: The free market when left alone solved that problem. She got canned. Sometimes things take longer than we would like but the alternative is tyranny by the government. What would

RE: [OT] People don't want to work

2012-04-05 Thread Jerry Foote
, 2012 11:36 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] People don't want to work Bailing out Wall Street was a criminal act. The execs just took the money for themselves through huge bonuses. They should have been prosecuted although several are now being tried and convicted. The stock market

Re: [OT] People don't want to work

2012-04-05 Thread Pete Theisen
Jerry Foote wrote: I don't think the volt would have survived the bankruptcy, and the bondholders would have funds to invest. The unions would have had renegotiate. jerry Hi Jerry, Think the unions are the real reason why the bailout stopped the bankruptcy? Bailing out Wall Street was a

Re: [OT] People don't want to work

2012-04-05 Thread Leland Jackson
. There is still a lot of waste left in these companies. - Original Message - From: MB Software Solutions, LLC mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com To: ProFox Email Listprofox@leafe.com Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 11:49 AM Subject: Re: [OT] People don't want to work On 4

Re: [OT] People don't want to work

2012-04-05 Thread Michael Madigan
: Thursday, April 5, 2012 11:49 AM Subject: Re: [OT] People don't want to work On 4/4/2012 10:39 PM, Nicholas Geti wrote: The free market when left alone solved that problem. She got canned. Sometimes things take longer than we would like but the alternative is tyranny by the government. What

Re: [OT] People don't want to work

2012-04-05 Thread Nicholas Geti
years, they did not deserve it. Do Google for J.P. Morgan and Citibank. Your eyes will be opened. - Original Message - From: Michael Madigan mmadi10...@yahoo.com To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 2:10 PM Subject: Re: [OT] People don't want to work

Re: [OT] People don't want to work

2012-04-05 Thread Nicholas Geti
: Leland Jackson lela...@mail.smvfp.com To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 1:56 PM Subject: Re: [OT] People don't want to work It's easy to conjecture how thing would be better if this was done, or that had happened, etc, but the overwhelming majority of the experts

Re: [OT] People don't want to work

2012-04-05 Thread Leland Jackson
. I don't know about Wall Street. - Original Message - From: MB Software Solutions, LLCmbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com To: ProFox Email Listprofox@leafe.com Cc: Sent: Thursday, April 5, 2012 11:49 AM Subject: Re: [OT] People don't want to work On 4/4/2012 10:39 PM

Re: [OT] People don't want to work

2012-04-05 Thread Leland Jackson
. I don't know about Wall Street. - Original Message - From: MB Software Solutions, LLCmbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com To: ProFox Email Listprofox@leafe.com Cc: Sent: Thursday, April 5, 2012 11:49 AM Subject: Re: [OT] People don't want to work On 4/4/2012 10:39 PM

Re: [OT] People don't want to work

2012-04-05 Thread Leland Jackson
Listprofox@leafe.com Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 1:56 PM Subject: Re: [OT] People don't want to work It's easy to conjecture how thing would be better if this was done, or that had happened, etc, but the overwhelming majority of the experts with the education, training and experience, (eg

Re: [OT] People don't want to work

2012-04-05 Thread Ricardo Araoz
When are you people going to understand it. T H E R E I S N O F R E E M A R K E T ! ! ! ! ! ! Every market is regulated, if it is not regulated then it is not a market. There are always rules and those rules are enforced by govt. The only issue is *how much* regulation to have. Will

Re: [OT] People don't want to work

2012-04-05 Thread Michael Madigan
Oh look, it's Gaucho Marx From: Ricardo Araoz ricar...@gmail.com To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Sent: Thursday, April 5, 2012 3:33 PM Subject: Re: [OT] People don't want to work When are you people going to understand it. T H E R E  I S  N O  F R

Re: [OT] People don't want to work

2012-04-05 Thread Nicholas Geti
Another good one. - Original Message - From: Michael Madigan mmadi10...@yahoo.com To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 4:00 PM Subject: Re: [OT] People don't want to work Oh look, it's Gaucho Marx From: Ricardo Araoz

Re: [OT] People don't want to work

2012-04-04 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
On 4/3/2012 5:27 PM, Michael Madigan wrote: Unfortunately some businesses don't have the profit margins to increase salaries.If you own a hamburger franchise, you're locked in on the price you can charge, so you have to hire people under a certain wage. When the government pays people

Re: [OT] People don't want to work

2012-04-04 Thread Nicholas Geti
List profox@leafe.com Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 3:22 PM Subject: Re: [OT] People don't want to work On 4/3/2012 5:27 PM, Michael Madigan wrote: Unfortunately some businesses don't have the profit margins to increase salaries.If you own a hamburger franchise, you're locked

Re: [OT] People don't want to work

2012-04-03 Thread Jerry Wolper
Here are some interviews with employers. They cannot find enough people who want to work. The people are finding they make more by collecting unemployment benefits, food stamps, etc. Or they work three months to qualify for unemployment then leave. Um, if you're not paying enough to compete

Re: [OT] People don't want to work

2012-04-03 Thread Michael Madigan
instead of ending it after 26 weeks, you're going to have artificial labor shortages.   - Original Message - From: Jerry Wolper jwol...@swanzoco.com To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Cc: Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2012 1:38 PM Subject: Re: [OT] People don't want to work Here are some

Re: [OT] People don't want to work

2012-04-03 Thread Ricardo Araoz
El 03/04/12 18:27, Michael Madigan escribió: Unfortunately some businesses don't have the profit margins to increase salaries.If you own a hamburger franchise, you're locked in on the price you can charge, so you have to hire people under a certain wage. And you want people to starve

Re: [OT] People don't want to work

2012-04-03 Thread Michael Madigan
Yes, people starve surrounded by hamburgers, fries and milkshakes.    - Original Message - From: Ricardo Araoz ricar...@gmail.com To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Cc: Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2012 8:13 PM Subject: Re: [OT] People don't want to work El 03/04/12 18:27, Michael

[OT] People don't want to work

2012-04-02 Thread Nicholas Geti
Here are some interviews with employers. They cannot find enough people who want to work. The people are finding they make more by collecting unemployment benefits, food stamps, etc. Or they work three months to qualify for unemployment then leave. In the interview one company refuses to talk

Re: [OT] People don't want to work

2012-04-02 Thread Michael Madigan
I have a client who has been told, Can I wait til my unemployment runs out before I start?   From: Nicholas Geti ng...@optonline.net To: profox@leafe.com Sent: Monday, April 2, 2012 9:15 AM Subject: [OT] People don't want to work Here are some interviews

Re: [OT] People don't want to work

2012-04-02 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
On 4/2/2012 9:15 AM, Nicholas Geti wrote: Here are some interviews with employers. They cannot find enough people who want to work. The people are finding they make more by collecting unemployment benefits, food stamps, etc. Or they work three months to qualify for unemployment then leave.

Re: [OT] People don't want to work

2012-04-02 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
On 4/2/2012 2:58 PM, Michael Madigan wrote: I have a client who has been told, Can I wait til my unemployment runs out before I start? Obama and the Dems are catering to this crowd to get their vote. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com

Re: [OT] People don't want to work

2012-04-02 Thread Michael Madigan
It used to be 26 weeks.     From: MB Software Solutions, LLC mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Sent: Monday, April 2, 2012 5:06 PM Subject: Re: [OT] People don't want to work On 4/2/2012 9:15 AM, Nicholas Geti

Re: [OT] People don't want to work

2012-04-02 Thread Michael Madigan
:07 PM Subject: Re: [OT] People don't want to work On 4/2/2012 2:58 PM, Michael Madigan wrote: I have a client who has been told, Can I wait til my unemployment runs out before I start? Obama and the Dems are catering to this crowd to get their vote

Re: [OT] People don't want to work

2012-04-02 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
On 4/2/2012 5:49 PM, Michael Madigan wrote: It used to be 26 weeks. That's right! So we went from 26 to 99. Amazing. Is that to be attributed to the Democraps? ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance:

Re: [OT] People don't want to work

2012-04-02 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
On 4/2/2012 5:52 PM, Michael Madigan wrote: It's a vicious, downward cycle. Nobody is going to work if they can survive on unemployment and food stamps. This reminds me of the homeless with their smart phones.

Re: [OT] People don't want to work

2012-04-02 Thread Michael Madigan
. From: MB Software Solutions, LLC mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com Sent: Monday, April 2, 2012 6:07 PM Subject: Re: [OT] People don't want to work On 4/2/2012 5:49 PM, Michael Madigan wrote: It used to be 26

Re: [OT] People don't want to work

2012-04-02 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
On 4/2/2012 6:11 PM, Michael Madigan wrote: Yep. The average length of unemployment is at an all-time high since records have been kept, 40 weeks. Everyone takes low-paying gigs to get by, why shouldn't they make people take low-paying jobs after 26 weeks? There are plenty of

Re: [OT] People don't want to work

2012-04-02 Thread Michael Madigan
: [OT] People don't want to work On 4/2/2012 6:11 PM, Michael Madigan wrote: Yep. The average length of unemployment is at an all-time high since records have been kept,  40 weeks. Everyone takes low-paying gigs to get by, why shouldn't they make people take low-paying jobs after 26 weeks