>> Nicholas Geti wrote:
>>
> And over that same period prices of houses rose astronomically.
>
>
>
Ok. So here's my advice for you two lads. Borrow as much money as you
can at whatever interest rate you are asked. If the interest rate is
tied to inflation or to nomina
z <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Nicholas Geti wrote:
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Ricardo Aráoz"
> <[EMA
Nicholas Geti wrote:
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> From: "Ricardo Aráoz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 11:11 PM
> Subject: Re: [OT] How to determine if a market has hit THE bottom.
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>
>
On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 11:18 AM, Michael Madigan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> There were a lot of people who were sold variable rates to get them into a
> house they couldn't afford. In 5 years, their salary would be way higher and
> of course interest rates would remain low.
>
> The sub-prime m
alers.
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--- On Thu, 12/4/08, Stephen Russell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> From: Stephen Russell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [OT] How to determine if a market has hit THE bott
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From: "MB Software Solutions General Account"
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Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 11:15 AM
Subject: Re: [OT] How to determine if a market has hit THE bottom.
> Nicholas Geti wrote:
>>
Nicholas Geti wrote:
> Not inflation but other indicies at the lenders choosing.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adjustable_rate_mortgage They did not exist
> when I bought my house 40 years ago.
>
> As an aside, I paid $44,500 for my house at that time. Last year it was
> evaluated at $650,000. I p
Nicholas Geti wrote:
>>> I have never seen an interest rate for borrowing tied to inflation.
>>> They are always fixed rates.
>> Seems to me that the so-called "adjustable-rate" mortgages are
>> indirectly tied to inflation.
> Not inflation but other indicies at the lenders choosing.
> http://e
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Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 11:11 PM
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> Nicholas Geti wrote:
>>>> And ov
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Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 5:11 PM
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> Nicholas Geti wrote:
>
>> I have never seen
On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 9:42 PM, Michael Madigan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Only an idiot would get a variable-rate loan.
>
> *
They were in fashion when your house was a short term 4 year
investment. You expected to move upwards in the 4th year so
> From: Ricardo Aráoz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [OT] How to determine if a market has hit THE bottom.
> To: "ProFox Email List"
> Date: Wednesday, December 3, 2008, 11:11 PM
> Nicholas Geti wrote:
> >>> And over that same period prices of houses
>
Michael Madigan wrote:
> Only an idiot would get a variable-rate loan.
Hi Michael!
Yes, I had second thoughts and converted it into a reverse when I turned
62. That worked out for me big time.
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Pete
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> To: "ProFox Email List"
> Date: Wednesday, December 3, 2008, 11:11 PM
> Nicholas Geti wrote:
> >>> And over that same period prices of houses
> rose astronomically.
> >>>
> >>
Nicholas Geti wrote:
>>> And over that same period prices of houses rose astronomically.
>>>
>>>
>> Ok. So here's my advice for you two lads. Borrow as much money as you
>> can at whatever interest rate you are asked. If the interest rate is
>> tied to inflation or to nominal rate then THAT'
Michael Madigan wrote:
> Indirectly if the rates go up along with inflation.
>>> I have never seen an interest rate for borrowing tied
>> to inflation. They are always fixed rates.
>> Seems to me that the so-called "adjustable-rate" mortgages are
>> indirectly tied to inflation.
Hi Guys!
A coup
Nicholas Geti wrote:
> In my area the price of houses in the last 15 years doubled and in some
> cases tripled. The market was very hot. People were buying second houses for
> resale. Condominiums were especially volatile. Many people I know where
> putting down payments on condos that were jus
;
> Subject: Re: [OT] How to determine if a market has hit THE bottom.
> To: "ProFox Email List"
> Date: Wednesday, December 3, 2008, 5:11 PM
> Nicholas Geti wrote:
>
> > I have never seen an interest rate for borrowing tied
> to inflation.
> > They are alwa
Nicholas Geti wrote:
> I have never seen an interest rate for borrowing tied to inflation.
> They are always fixed rates.
Hi Nicholas!
Seems to me that the so-called "adjustable-rate" mortgages are
indirectly tied to inflation.
--
Regards,
Pete
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To: "ProFox Email List"
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 7:05 PM
Subject: Re: [OT] How to determine if a market has hit THE bottom.
> Nicholas Geti wrote:
>
>>
>>> Nicholas Ge
>>
>>
>> And over that same period prices of houses rose astronomically.
>>
> Ok. So here's my advice for you two lads. Borrow as much money as you
> can at whatever interest rate you are asked. If the interest rate is
> tied to inflation or to nominal rate then THAT'S better than static
> interest
Nicholas Geti wrote:
>
>> Nicholas Geti wrote:
>>> Refer to my previous note. How do you figure the house is worth less
>>> after 30 years.
>> http://tinyurl.com/6e74eq
> And over that same period prices of houses rose astronomically.
Hi Nicholas!
I agree that the houses rose, but I wonder
Nicholas Geti wrote:
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> From: "Pete Theisen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "ProFox Email List"
> Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 12:55 PM
> Subject: Re: [OT] How to determine if a market has hit THE bottom.
>
>
>
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To: "ProFox Email List"
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 12:55 PM
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> Nicholas Geti wrote:
>
>>> Really? Borrow
Nicholas Geti wrote:
>> Really? Borrow $500,000 for a house at 10%pa while house prices are rising
>> at an average 2%pa. Calculate in 30 years time how much you paid compared
>> to how much the house is worth. YOU LOSE. Now try it the other way around.
>> YOU WIN. Pretty basic really.
>>
> Ref
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Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 7:44 PM
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> Nicholas Geti wrote:
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Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 5:44 PM
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There are a number of assumptions implicit in that sce
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To: "'ProFox Email List'"
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 5:50 PM
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> Really? Borrow $500,000 for a house at 10%p
Nicholas Geti wrote:
> - Original Message -
> From: "Geoff Flight" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "'ProFox Email List'"
> Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 5:20 PM
> Subject: RE: [OT] How to determine if a market has hit THE bottom.
>
>
&
Nicholas Geti wrote:
> - Original Message -
> From: "Ricardo Aráoz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "ProFox Email List"
> Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 5:52 PM
> Subject: Re: [OT] How to determine if a market has hit THE bottom.
>
>
> N
mber 2008 9:49 AM
To: ProFox Email List
Subject: RE: [OT] How to determine if a market has hit THE bottom.
You're missing the utility of having a roof over your head. People normally
don't buy houses to make money, they buy houses to live in.
***
/08, Geoff Flight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> From: Geoff Flight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> To: "'ProFox Email List'"
> Date: Monday, December 1, 2008, 5:50 PM
> Really? Borrow $500,000 for
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That is not even close to true. Borrowers are better
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Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 5:53 PM
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> Kristyne McDaniel wrote:
>> Nicholas,
>>
&
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Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 5:52 PM
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Nicholas Geti wrote:
> - Original Message -
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Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 3:20 PM
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> Nicholas,
>
>> Ricardo, you n
:
> From: Geoff Flight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: RE: [OT] How to determine if a market has hit THE bottom.
> To: "'ProFox Email List'"
> Date: Monday, December 1, 2008, 5:20 PM
> That is not even close to true. Borrowers are better off if
> inflation is
&
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Michael Madigan
Sent: Tuesday, 2 December 2008 8:36 AM
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Most incomes go up quicker in inflationary times.
It is generally recognized that borrowers
/08, Ricardo Aráoz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> From: Ricardo Aráoz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [OT] How to determine if a market has hit THE bottom.
> To: "ProFox Email List"
> Date: Monday, December 1, 2008, 5:53 PM
> Kristyne McDaniel wrote:
> >
Kristyne McDaniel wrote:
> Nicholas,
>
>
>> Ricardo, you need to understand the concept of money.
>> It is irrelevant whether the rich have their worth in
>> cash or other instruments. It is still "money" and is
>> directly affected by inflation; everything they buy
>> including other investment
Nicholas Geti wrote:
> - Original Message -
> From: "Ricardo Aráoz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "ProFox Email List"
> Sent: Friday, November 28, 2008 5:47 PM
> Subject: Re: [OT] How to determine if a market has hit THE bottom.
>
>
>
&
Nicholas,
> Ricardo, you need to understand the concept of money.
> It is irrelevant whether the rich have their worth in
> cash or other instruments. It is still "money" and is
> directly affected by inflation; everything they buy
> including other investment instruments will go up
> in price.
A
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> Subject: Re: [OT] How to determine if a market has hit THE bottom.
> To: "ProFox Email List"
> Date: Monday, December 1, 2008, 9:59 AM
> Kristyne McDaniel wrote:
> > Madigan,
> >
> >
> >> Care to explain this strange attack?
> >
Kristyne McDaniel wrote:
> Madigan,
>
>
>> Care to explain this strange attack?
>>
>
> Not much explanation needed. You scream doom and gloom and then act
> surprised when gloom and doom happen.
>
Please check todays numbers... It gets even better.
Jim
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- Original Message -
From: "Ricardo Aráoz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "ProFox Email List"
Sent: Friday, November 28, 2008 5:47 PM
Subject: Re: [OT] How to determine if a market has hit THE bottom.
> Nicholas Geti wrote:
>> Governments can never go b
uot;Ricardo Aráoz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "ProFox Email List"
> Sent: Friday, November 28, 2008 2:47 PM
> Subject: Re: [OT] How to determine if a market has hit THE bottom.
>
>
> Nicholas Geti wrote:
>
>> Governments can never go bankrupt. They just
l remember trying to buy
my first home with 18% interest. Those numbers
don't work.
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To: "ProFox Email List"
Sent: Friday, November 28, 2008 2:47 PM
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kson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "ProFox Email List"
> Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2008 3:04 PM
> Subject: Re: [OT] How to determine if a market has hit THE bottom.
>
>
>
>> Having the USA government go out of business is a risky proposition;
>>
Governments can never go bankrupt. They just print more money.
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Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2008 3:04 PM
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On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 4:36 PM, John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The economy is bad, we've only got 94.5% of the people working! The
> depression had 25% out of work, we have a ways to go yet
--
You guys are quoting Sept. numbers I think. It is getting a lot worse
at
Pete Theisen wrote:
> Leland Jackson wrote:
>
>
>> On June 2, 1987 President Reagan nominates Greenspan for chairman of the
>> Federal Reserve Board, which he served for five terms until January 31,
>> 2006. He served under the following presidents:
>>
>> 2 terms - Ronald Reagan - Republican
Leland Jackson wrote:
> On June 2, 1987 President Reagan nominates Greenspan for chairman of the
> Federal Reserve Board, which he served for five terms until January 31,
> 2006. He served under the following presidents:
>
> 2 terms - Ronald Reagan - Republican
> 1 term - George H. W. Bush -
Having the USA government go out of business is a risky proposition;
since, an unknown will fill the power vacuum, and its hard to predict
how you and I might fare in the new environment, but the odds are we
wouldn't fare well.
Regards,
LelandJ
Pete Theisen wrote:
> Leland Jackson wrote:
>
According to the "United States housing bubble" Wiki, On October 15,
2008, Anthony Faiola, Ellen Nakashima and Jill Drew , wrote a lengthy
article in the Washington Post titled, "What Went Wrong." In their
investigation, the authors claim that Greenspan vehemently opposed any
regulation of fin
Leland Jackson wrote:
> First things first. Having excessive deficit spending is irrelevant, if
> the USA goes bankrupt.
Hi Leland!
So run up a huge debt and declare bankruptcy? The guys stuck with the
bill are the richies, vast numbers of whom are foreign nationals.
--
Regards,
Pete
http://
John wrote:
> banks can retire the old mortgages in default with new mortgages that are
> performing on the underlying real estate collateral.>
Hi John!
The people didn't have to even move. They could just refinance into one
of the "new mortgages" based on the bubble "value" of their home. And
Also, the security laws regulating trading in derivatives needs to be
reformed to make it illegal to simple gambler or bet on a derivative.
Only investors that have a vested interest in the underlying item on
which a value is derived should be allowed to invest the derivatives.
Regards,
Lelan
First things first. Having excessive deficit spending is irrelevant, if
the USA goes bankrupt. Right now it's important to turn the economic
decline around, which will require some short term spending to put the
unemployed back to work, to prevent additional losses in employment, and
to creat
< Countrywide Financial was a chain of 200 or 300 saving and loan companies,
sometime called thrift institutions, located in California and Nevada.
Countrywide was one of the first mortgage companies to get in trouble
writing risky mortgages, including ARMs, (eg adjustable rate mortgages),
which pr
hn Harvey
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> Of Geoff Flight
> Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 5:14 PM
> To: 'ProFox Email List'
> Subject: RE: [OT] How to determine if a market has hit THE bottom.
>
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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> Of Geoff Flight
> Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 5:14 PM
> To: 'ProFox Email List'
> Subject: RE: [OT] How to determine if a market has hit THE bottom.
>
> I like it... You
e.
>
> He was screwing him while the public was being screwed.
>
> *
> Barack Obama is not My President
>
> http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike
>
>
> --- On Wed, 11/26/08, John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
Kristyne McDaniel wrote:
> Madigan,
>
>> Care to explain this strange attack?
>
> Not much explanation needed. You scream doom and gloom and then act
> surprised when gloom and doom happen.
>
> Thus far, with Obama not even in office yet, the markets are quieting down
> as he reveals the new fol
ncerned about.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> Of Michael Madigan
> Sent: Thursday, 27 November 2008 11:12 AM
> To: ProFox Email List
> Subject: RE: [OT] How to determine if a market has hit THE
> bottom.
>
Email List
Subject: RE: [OT] How to determine if a market has hit THE bottom.
Stupid compared to who? Certainly he's far smarter and more successful than
you are.
I like it when foreign losers denigrate the President.
*
Barack Obama is n
-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> Of Geoff Flight
> Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 5:14 PM
> To: 'ProFox Email List'
> Subject: RE: [OT] How to determine if a market has hit THE
> bottom.
>
> I like it... You've had some go
26/08, Geoff Flight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> From: Geoff Flight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: RE: [OT] How to determine if a market has hit THE bottom.
> To: "'ProFox Email List'"
> Date: Wednesday, November 26, 2008, 6:14 PM
> I like it... You
http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike
--- On Wed, 11/26/08, Geoff Flight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> From: Geoff Flight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: RE: [OT] How to determine if a market has hit THE bottom.
> To: "'ProFox Email List'"
> Date: Wed
Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 5:01 PM
To: 'ProFox Email List'
Subject: RE: [OT] How to determine if a market has hit THE bottom.
So what level do you blame Bush for this?
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Of Michael Madigan
Sen
I think they all have contributed. The bailout is bipartisan insanity!
John Harvey
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Of Ed Leafe
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ge-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Kristyne McDaniel
Sent: Thursday, 27 November 2008 9:38 AM
To: 'ProFox Email List'
Subject: RE: [OT] How to determine if a market has hit THE bottom.
Geoff,
> So what level do you blame Bush for this?
That's d
lto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Kristyne McDaniel
Sent: Thursday, 27 November 2008 9:38 AM
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Subject: RE: [OT] How to determine if a market has hit THE bottom.
Geoff,
> So what level do you blame Bush for this?
That's difficult. How do you blame a m
Geoff,
> So what level do you blame Bush for this?
That's difficult. How do you blame a moron for acting like a moron?
Kristyne McDaniel
http://www.kristynemcdaniel.com/blog
http://www.emryldadvantage.com/
http://www.mcstyles.com/
Whether you think you can, or you think you can't you are r
On Nov 26, 2008, at 4:47 PM, John wrote:
> You obviously didn't hear about the Republicans, in 2006, including
> John
> McCain, who said Freddie mac and fannie mae needed more overight.
> Meanwhile,
> Obama's buddies were raping the system, and Barney Frank was defending
> them
..
So what level do you blame Bush for this?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Michael Madigan
Sent: Thursday, 27 November 2008 9:28 AM
To: ProFox Email List
Subject: RE: [OT] How to determine if a market has hit THE bottom.
Sure. The economy
TED]> wrote:
> From: Kristyne McDaniel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: RE: [OT] How to determine if a market has hit THE bottom.
> To: "'ProFox Email List'"
> Date: Wednesday, November 26, 2008, 5:52 PM
> Geoff,
>
> > I just don't unders
7 November 2008 9:20 AM
To: ProFox Email List
Subject: RE: [OT] How to determine if a market has hit THE bottom.
I blame the Obama campaign for spreading fear to the uninformed.
Only a retard believes the economy is the worst since the Great Depression.
The early 80s had 17% interest ra
Geoff,
> I just don't understand how you can seriously shift the
> blame for economic disaster to a CANDIDATE while
> excluding an 8year presidency. Doesn't any part of that
> sound just a little bit silly?
You need to understand that the only way the right has been able to keep the
illusion of '
hn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> From: John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: RE: [OT] How to determine if a market has hit THE bottom.
> To: "'ProFox Email List'"
> Date: Wednesday, November 26, 2008, 5:47 PM
> You obviously didn't hear about the Rep
---Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> Of Michael Madigan
> Sent: Thursday, 27 November 2008 9:00 AM
> To: ProFox Email List
> Subject: RE: [OT] How to determine if a market has hit THE
> bottom.
>
> For two years Obama'
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Of Geoff Flight
Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 4:38 PM
To: 'ProFox Email List'
Subject: RE: [OT] How to determine if a market has hit THE bottom.
Economists have been saying for 2 years that a severe crash and recession
were I imminent beca
recovery cannot
> start. The markets
> are one of the areas of life where optimism (like
> pessimism) can be
> self-fulfilling.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> Of Kristyne McDaniel
> Sent: Thursday, 27 No
PM
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Subject: RE: [OT] How to determine if a market has hit THE bottom.
The economy in the US IS the worst since the depression. The markets
starting falling year ago. You are the only personI know who is blaming
Obama for the financial crisis. Not surprising, sinc
Flight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: RE: [OT] How to determine if a market has hit THE bottom.
> To: "'ProFox Email List'"
> Date: Wednesday, November 26, 2008, 5:21 PM
> The economy in the US IS the worst since the depression. The
> markets
> starting fallin
IN Australia they have dropped about 40%.
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Of Paul Hill
Sent: Thursday, 27 November 2008 8:56 AM
To: ProFox Email List
Subject: Re: [OT] How to determine if a market has hit THE bottom.
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at
start. The markets
> are one of the areas of life where optimism (like
> pessimism) can be
> self-fulfilling.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> Of Kristyne McDaniel
> Sent: Thursday, 27 November 2008 8:33 AM
>
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 10:21 PM, Geoff Flight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The economy in the US IS the worst since the depression. The markets
> starting falling year ago. You are the only personI know who is blaming
> Obama for the financial crisis. Not surprising, since it is utterly
> ludicrou
] On Behalf
Of Michael Madigan
Sent: Thursday, 27 November 2008 8:47 AM
To: ProFox Email List
Subject: RE: [OT] How to determine if a market has hit THE bottom.
I wasn't screaming doom and gloom, that was the Obama campaign who told us
for 2 years how the economy was the worst since the
33 AM
To: 'ProFox Email List'
Subject: RE: [OT] How to determine if a market has hit THE bottom.
Madigan,
> Care to explain this strange attack?
Not much explanation needed. You scream doom and gloom and then act
surprised when gloom and doom happen.
Thus far, with Obama not even
; wrote:
> From: Kristyne McDaniel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: RE: [OT] How to determine if a market has hit THE bottom.
> To: "'ProFox Email List'"
> Date: Wednesday, November 26, 2008, 5:02 PM
> Madigan,
>
> > Care to explain this strange at
Madigan,
> Care to explain this strange attack?
Not much explanation needed. You scream doom and gloom and then act
surprised when gloom and doom happen.
Thus far, with Obama not even in office yet, the markets are quieting down
as he reveals the new folks that will be replacing Bush ineptitude.
; Subject: RE: [OT] How to determine if a market has hit THE bottom.
> To: "'ProFox Email List'"
> Date: Wednesday, November 26, 2008, 4:07 PM
> Madigan,
>
> > You shouldn't try to pick bottoms, nobody can.
> The mere fact
> > that people a
Madigan,
> You shouldn't try to pick bottoms, nobody can. The mere fact
> that people are saying this is probably a bottom means this
> isn't the bottom.
You're not exactly the guy I'd choose as a market advisor. Guys like you are
the reason the market went so far down in the first place.
Kri
, 11/26/08, KAM.covad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> From: KAM.covad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [OT] How to determine if a market has hit THE bottom.
> To: "ProFox Email List"
> Date: Wednesday, November 26, 2008, 2:09 PM
> I had all my retirement funds in SPY - a
ably a lot more
bad news ahead.
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--- On Wed, 11/26/08, Ted Roche <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> From: Ted Roche <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [OT] How to d
I had all my retirement funds in SPY - a S&P 500 index EFT. I am so sure that
this is a bottom that I sold everything and bought
SSO also a S&P 500 index EFT but is leveraged so it should go up more than SPY
or mutual funds like VFINX. I bought SSO at 24.75
and 22.90
A paper loss means nothing Y
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 10:53 AM, Stephen Russell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am guessing that we are all involved with stocks and funds. Some of
> us don't pay attention to the signs and others are on top of them.
> That is why I put this as NF and not to be lost in the land of OT.
Even thou
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