Re: [ADMIN] Testing new mail relay

[Man-wai Chang]

CONTACT :)

On Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 2:52 AM Ed Leafe  wrote:
>
>
> I’m testing out a new relay service, Mailgun (https://www.mailgun.com/). So 
> far it seems to be running well, but if any of you on the receiving end of 
> things notices a problem, please let me know.
>

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RE: [ADMIN] Testing new mail relay

[Ali İhsan Türkoğlu]

+1

-Original Message-
From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Koen
Piller
Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2019 5:23 PM
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Subject: Re: [ADMIN] Testing new mail relay

Test successfull

Op za 12 jan. 2019 om 23:05 schreef roger tremblay 

> got it
>
> On 1/10/2019 5:39 AM, Jerry Wolper wrote:
> >> If someone can confirm that they can see this email it will help me in
> confirming I am not going mad and that I am sending correctly.
> > You're sending correctly.
> >
> > -Jerry
> >
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Re: [ADMIN] Testing new mail relay

[Koen Piller]

Test successfull

Op za 12 jan. 2019 om 23:05 schreef roger tremblay 

> got it
>
> On 1/10/2019 5:39 AM, Jerry Wolper wrote:
> >> If someone can confirm that they can see this email it will help me in
> confirming I am not going mad and that I am sending correctly.
> > You're sending correctly.
> >
> > -Jerry
> >
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Re: [ADMIN] Testing new mail relay

[roger tremblay]

got it

On 1/10/2019 5:39 AM, Jerry Wolper wrote:

If someone can confirm that they can see this email it will help me in 
confirming I am not going mad and that I am sending correctly.

You're sending correctly.

-Jerry


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Re: [ADMIN] Testing new mail relay

[Kurt @ Gmail]

Find a new job!

;-)

-K-

On 1/10/2019 12:01 PM, Eric Selje wrote:

I didn't get this. What should I do?

;)

E

On Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 11:59 AM Charles Hart Enzer, M.D. 
wrote:


I see both mine and others

Shai / שי
Charles Hart Enzer, MD(Ohio, USA), FAACAP
Aliyah: Cincinnati to Jerusalem's German Colony May, 2017

Volunteer Associate Professor of Psychiatry
University of Cincinnati Medical Center
WebSite: http://EnzerMD.com

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but to be coped with over time

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On Thu, Jan 10, 2019, 16:29 Dave Crozier 
Ed,
Thanks I'll investigate further!

Dave Crozier
Software Development Manager
Flexipol Packaging Ltd.

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Packaging Ltd. ("The Company") has received in cash or cleared funds
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be

sold by the seller to the buyer for which payment is then due. Until such
time as the property in the goods passes to the buyer, the buyer shall

hold

the goods as the seller's fiduciary agent and bailee and keep the goods
separate from those of the buyer and third parties and properly stored
protected and insured and identified as the seller's property but shall

be

entitled to resell or use the goods in the ordinary course of its

business.

Until such time as the property in the goods passes to the buyer the

seller

shall be entitled at any time
-Original Message-
From: ProFox  On Behalf Of Ed Leafe
Sent: 10 January 2019 14:24
To: ProFox Mailing List 
Subject: Re: [ADMIN] Testing new mail relay

On Jan 10, 2019, at 4:23 AM, Dave Crozier 

wrote:

I have all the emails and seem to be able to receive everything apart

from my own emails and responses, any chance you can give it a look

please

as it seems to be since we moved over to Office 365. I used to send all

my

emails as davec at Flexipol.co.uk when we had exchange but now send them
under my domain name dcrozier at flesipol.co.uk but can receive under

the

old alias..

Your account is set to receive your own posts, so I assume that it is
something in the email client of Office 365 that needs to be changed to
make your own posts show up. Some clients see the reply as a dupe (since
it’s in your Sent folder) and ignore it.


-- Ed Leafe







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Re: [ADMIN] Testing new mail relay

[Jerry Wolper]

> If someone can confirm that they can see this email it will help me in 
> confirming I am not going mad and that I am sending correctly.

You're sending correctly.

-Jerry

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Re: [ADMIN] Testing new mail relay

[Ed Leafe]

On Jan 9, 2019, at 12:51 PM, Ed Leafe  wrote:
> 
> I’m testing out a new relay service, Mailgun (https://www.mailgun.com/). So 
> far it seems to be running well, but if any of you on the receiving end of 
> things notices a problem, please let me know.
> 
> One other issue is the cost: it’s free if the total # of emails sent is under 
> 100K, but gets expensive above that. Last year the highest number of emails 
> sent in a month was 280 in May, which is about 133,000 total emails, and that 
> would have cost $120 for that month (ouch!). So I’m not sure if I will keep 
> it, but it’s worth a trial at least.

I’ve tried several approaches to get this to work, but no luck. They have a 
service they call “Mailing Lists”, which would allow me to send one message and 
have it sent to everyone on the list, so that sounded promising. I worked out a 
script to sync the subscription status on my server with the Mailgun lists, but 
tried sending a few test messages. Turns out that they wipe out all existing 
header information, and replace it with their own, which would totally break 
the archives, since the Message-Id: header is key to threading. It also strips 
the Reply-To: header, making it impossible to reply to the list automatically.

So we’re back to me sending the mail directly from my server. Apologies to all 
whose ISPs block me.


-- Ed Leafe






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Re: [ADMIN] Testing new mail relay

[Eric Selje]

I didn't get this. What should I do?

;)

E

On Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 11:59 AM Charles Hart Enzer, M.D. 
wrote:

> I see both mine and others
>
> Shai / שי
> Charles Hart Enzer, MD(Ohio, USA), FAACAP
> Aliyah: Cincinnati to Jerusalem's German Colony May, 2017
>
> Volunteer Associate Professor of Psychiatry
> University of Cincinnati Medical Center
> WebSite: http://EnzerMD.com
>
> If a problem has no solution,
> it may not be a problem,
> but a fact --
> not to be solved,
> but to be coped with over time
>
> -- Shimon Peres, Ninth President of Israel
>
> On Thu, Jan 10, 2019, 16:29 Dave Crozier 
> > Ed,
> > Thanks I'll investigate further!
> >
> > Dave Crozier
> > Software Development Manager
> > Flexipol Packaging Ltd.
> >
> > ﴾⚆ᨎ⚆﴿
> >
> >
> >
> > Flexipol® Packaging Ltd
> > T 01706 222 792
> > E dcroz...@flexipol.co.uk
> > W https://www.flexipol.co.uk/
> > Follow us:
> > Unit 14 Bentwood Road, Carrs Industrial Estate, Haslingden, Lancashire,
> > BB4 5HH
> >
> > ​This communication and the information it contains is intended for the
> > person or organisation to whom it is addressed. Its contents are
> > confidential and may be protected in law. If you have received this
> e-mail
> > in error you must not copy, distribute or take any action in reliance on
> > it. Unauthorised use, copying or disclosure of any of it may be unlawful.
> > If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately
> by
> > telephone or email.
> >
> > Flexipol Packaging Ltd. has taken every reasonable precaution to minimise
> > the risk of virus transmission through email and therefore any files sent
> > via e-mail will have been checked for known viruses. However, you are
> > advised to run your own virus check before opening any attachments
> received
> > as Flexipol Packaging Ltd will not in any event accept any liability
> > whatsoever once an e-mail and/or any attachment is received.
> >
> >  It is the responsibility of the recipient to ensure that they have
> > adequate virus protection.
> >
> >
> >
> -
> > ​​
> > ​Terms & Conditions:
> >  Notwithstanding delivery and the passing of risk in the goods, the
> > property in the goods shall not pass to the buyer until the seller
> Flexipol
> > Packaging Ltd. ("The Company") has received in cash or cleared funds
> > payment in full of the price of the goods and all other goods agreed to
> be
> > sold by the seller to the buyer for which payment is then due. Until such
> > time as the property in the goods passes to the buyer, the buyer shall
> hold
> > the goods as the seller's fiduciary agent and bailee and keep the goods
> > separate from those of the buyer and third parties and properly stored
> > protected and insured and identified as the seller's property but shall
> be
> > entitled to resell or use the goods in the ordinary course of its
> business.
> > Until such time as the property in the goods passes to the buyer the
> seller
> > shall be entitled at any time
> > -Original Message-
> > From: ProFox  On Behalf Of Ed Leafe
> > Sent: 10 January 2019 14:24
> > To: ProFox Mailing List 
> > Subject: Re: [ADMIN] Testing new mail relay
> >
> > On Jan 10, 2019, at 4:23 AM, Dave Crozier 
> wrote:
> > >
> > > I have all the emails and seem to be able to receive everything apart
> > from my own emails and responses, any chance you can give it a look
> please
> > as it seems to be since we moved over to Office 365. I used to send all
> my
> > emails as davec at Flexipol.co.uk when we had exchange but now send them
> > under my domain name dcrozier at flesipol.co.uk but can receive under
> the
> > old alias..
> >
> > Your account is set to receive your own posts, so I assume that it is
> > something in the email client of Office 365 that needs to be changed to
> > make your own posts show up. Some clients see the reply as a dupe (since
> > it’s in your Sent folder) and ignore it.
> >
> >
> > -- Ed Leafe
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [ADMIN] Testing new mail relay

[Charles Hart Enzer, M.D.]

I see both mine and others

Shai / שי
Charles Hart Enzer, MD(Ohio, USA), FAACAP
Aliyah: Cincinnati to Jerusalem's German Colony May, 2017

Volunteer Associate Professor of Psychiatry
University of Cincinnati Medical Center
WebSite: http://EnzerMD.com

If a problem has no solution,
it may not be a problem,
but a fact --
not to be solved,
but to be coped with over time

-- Shimon Peres, Ninth President of Israel

On Thu, Jan 10, 2019, 16:29 Dave Crozier  Ed,
> Thanks I'll investigate further!
>
> Dave Crozier
> Software Development Manager
> Flexipol Packaging Ltd.
>
> ﴾⚆ᨎ⚆﴿
>
>
>
> Flexipol® Packaging Ltd
> T 01706 222 792
> E dcroz...@flexipol.co.uk
> W https://www.flexipol.co.uk/
> Follow us:
> Unit 14 Bentwood Road, Carrs Industrial Estate, Haslingden, Lancashire,
> BB4 5HH
>
> ​This communication and the information it contains is intended for the
> person or organisation to whom it is addressed. Its contents are
> confidential and may be protected in law. If you have received this e-mail
> in error you must not copy, distribute or take any action in reliance on
> it. Unauthorised use, copying or disclosure of any of it may be unlawful.
> If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by
> telephone or email.
>
> Flexipol Packaging Ltd. has taken every reasonable precaution to minimise
> the risk of virus transmission through email and therefore any files sent
> via e-mail will have been checked for known viruses. However, you are
> advised to run your own virus check before opening any attachments received
> as Flexipol Packaging Ltd will not in any event accept any liability
> whatsoever once an e-mail and/or any attachment is received.
>
>  It is the responsibility of the recipient to ensure that they have
> adequate virus protection.
>
>
> -
> ​​
> ​Terms & Conditions:
>  Notwithstanding delivery and the passing of risk in the goods, the
> property in the goods shall not pass to the buyer until the seller Flexipol
> Packaging Ltd. ("The Company") has received in cash or cleared funds
> payment in full of the price of the goods and all other goods agreed to be
> sold by the seller to the buyer for which payment is then due. Until such
> time as the property in the goods passes to the buyer, the buyer shall hold
> the goods as the seller's fiduciary agent and bailee and keep the goods
> separate from those of the buyer and third parties and properly stored
> protected and insured and identified as the seller's property but shall be
> entitled to resell or use the goods in the ordinary course of its business.
> Until such time as the property in the goods passes to the buyer the seller
> shall be entitled at any time
> -Original Message-
> From: ProFox  On Behalf Of Ed Leafe
> Sent: 10 January 2019 14:24
> To: ProFox Mailing List 
> Subject: Re: [ADMIN] Testing new mail relay
>
> On Jan 10, 2019, at 4:23 AM, Dave Crozier  wrote:
> >
> > I have all the emails and seem to be able to receive everything apart
> from my own emails and responses, any chance you can give it a look please
> as it seems to be since we moved over to Office 365. I used to send all my
> emails as davec at Flexipol.co.uk when we had exchange but now send them
> under my domain name dcrozier at flesipol.co.uk but can receive under the
> old alias..
>
> Your account is set to receive your own posts, so I assume that it is
> something in the email client of Office 365 that needs to be changed to
> make your own posts show up. Some clients see the reply as a dupe (since
> it’s in your Sent folder) and ignore it.
>
>
> -- Ed Leafe
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [ADMIN] Testing new mail relay

[Fernando D. Bozzo]

Hi Dave, I'd read you :-D


El jue., 10 ene. 2019 11:24, Dave Crozier 
escribió:

> Ed,
> I have all the emails and seem to be able to receive everything apart from
> my own emails and responses, any chance you can give it a look please as it
> seems to be since we moved over to Office 365. I used to send all my emails
> as davec at Flexipol.co.uk when we had exchange but now send them under
> my domain name dcrozier at flesipol.co.uk but can receive under the old
> alias..
>
> If someone can confirm that they can see this email it will help me in
> confirming I am not going mad and that I am sending correctly.
>
> Thanks
>
> Dave Crozier
> Software Development Manager
> Flexipol Packaging Ltd.
>
> ﴾⚆ᨎ⚆﴿
>
>
>
> Flexipol® Packaging Ltd
> T 01706 222 792
> E dcroz...@flexipol.co.uk
> W https://www.flexipol.co.uk/
> Follow us:
> Unit 14 Bentwood Road, Carrs Industrial Estate, Haslingden, Lancashire,
> BB4 5HH
>
> ​This communication and the information it contains is intended for the
> person or organisation to whom it is addressed. Its contents are
> confidential and may be protected in law. If you have received this e-mail
> in error you must not copy, distribute or take any action in reliance on
> it. Unauthorised use, copying or disclosure of any of it may be unlawful.
> If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by
> telephone or email.
>
> Flexipol Packaging Ltd. has taken every reasonable precaution to minimise
> the risk of virus transmission through email and therefore any files sent
> via e-mail will have been checked for known viruses. However, you are
> advised to run your own virus check before opening any attachments received
> as Flexipol Packaging Ltd will not in any event accept any liability
> whatsoever once an e-mail and/or any attachment is received.
>
>  It is the responsibility of the recipient to ensure that they have
> adequate virus protection.
>
>
> -
> ​​
> ​Terms & Conditions:
>  Notwithstanding delivery and the passing of risk in the goods, the
> property in the goods shall not pass to the buyer until the seller Flexipol
> Packaging Ltd. ("The Company") has received in cash or cleared funds
> payment in full of the price of the goods and all other goods agreed to be
> sold by the seller to the buyer for which payment is then due. Until such
> time as the property in the goods passes to the buyer, the buyer shall hold
> the goods as the seller's fiduciary agent and bailee and keep the goods
> separate from those of the buyer and third parties and properly stored
> protected and insured and identified as the seller's property but shall be
> entitled to resell or use the goods in the ordinary course of its business.
> Until such time as the property in the goods passes to the buyer the seller
> shall be entitled at any time
> -Original Message-
> From: ProfoxTech  On Behalf Of Fernando D.
> Bozzo
> Sent: 09 January 2019 18:58
> To: profoxt...@leafe.com
> Subject: Re: [ADMIN] Testing new mail relay
>
> Test PASSED! - Green light
>
> :D
>
>
> El mié., 9 ene. 2019 a las 19:52, Ed Leafe () escribió:
>
> > Many of you have had problems receiving mail from the list, as my
> > domain is hosted on a server in the cloud, and many ISPs have blanket
> > blocks on any IP addresses from cloud providers like mine (Digital
> Ocean).
> >
> > I’m testing out a new relay service, Mailgun (https://www.mailgun.com/).
> > So far it seems to be running well, but if any of you on the receiving
> > end of things notices a problem, please let me know.
> >
> > One other issue is the cost: it’s free if the total # of emails sent
> > is under 100K, but gets expensive above that. Last year the highest
> > number of emails sent in a month was 280 in May, which is about
> > 133,000 total emails, and that would have cost $120 for that month
> > (ouch!). So I’m not sure if I will keep it, but it’s worth a trial at
> least.
> >
> >
> > -- Ed Leafe
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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RE: [ADMIN] Testing new mail relay

[Dave Crozier]

Ed,
Thanks I'll investigate further!

Dave Crozier
Software Development Manager
Flexipol Packaging Ltd.

﴾⚆ᨎ⚆﴿



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T 01706 222 792
E dcroz...@flexipol.co.uk
W https://www.flexipol.co.uk/
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passes to the buyer the seller shall be entitled at any time
-Original Message-
From: ProFox  On Behalf Of Ed Leafe
Sent: 10 January 2019 14:24
To: ProFox Mailing List 
Subject: Re: [ADMIN] Testing new mail relay

On Jan 10, 2019, at 4:23 AM, Dave Crozier  wrote:
> 
> I have all the emails and seem to be able to receive everything apart from my 
> own emails and responses, any chance you can give it a look please as it 
> seems to be since we moved over to Office 365. I used to send all my emails 
> as davec at Flexipol.co.uk when we had exchange but now send them under my 
> domain name dcrozier at flesipol.co.uk but can receive under the old alias..

Your account is set to receive your own posts, so I assume that it is something 
in the email client of Office 365 that needs to be changed to make your own 
posts show up. Some clients see the reply as a dupe (since it’s in your Sent 
folder) and ignore it.


-- Ed Leafe






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On Jan 10, 2019, at 4:23 AM, Dave Crozier  wrote:
> 
> I have all the emails and seem to be able to receive everything apart from my 
> own emails and responses, any chance you can give it a look please as it 
> seems to be since we moved over to Office 365. I used to send all my emails 
> as davec at Flexipol.co.uk when we had exchange but now send them under my 
> domain name dcrozier at flesipol.co.uk but can receive under the old alias..

Your account is set to receive your own posts, so I assume that it is something 
in the email client of Office 365 that needs to be changed to make your own 
posts show up. Some clients see the reply as a dupe (since it’s in your Sent 
folder) and ignore it.


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[Dave Crozier]

+1

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the seller's property but shall be entitled to resell or use the goods in the 
ordinary course of its business. Until such time as the property in the goods 
passes to the buyer the seller shall be entitled at any time
-Original Message-
From: ProFox  On Behalf Of 
mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com
Sent: 09 January 2019 21:07
To: ProFox Email List 
Subject: Re: [ADMIN] Testing new mail relay

On 2019-01-09 16:02, Ed Leafe wrote:
> On Jan 9, 2019, at 2:54 PM, Kurt @ Gmail  wrote:
>> 
>> Ed - I really do NOT think you should use this service - since its 
>> Pricey - and there's NO Reason why you should pay for the service 
>> when these forums don't even Net you ANY $$$!
> 
> Most months were below the level that the service would be free - 
> around 210 messages / month. And it would be nice to not have to hunt 
> down why various people aren’t getting their messages, which usually 
> ends up being “my ISP is blocking you”.
> 
>> Also - you do this same similar forum for Python - don't you? Which, 
>> if so, increases total # of emails, and thus the monthly cost. Or, 
>> maybe the cost is Per forum type - not grouped together…
> 
> I also host the ProLinux and ProPython lists, which were set up to not 
> clog up ProFox with discussions of moving to Linux or programming in 
> Python. While they were busy at first, in 2018 they had 17 and 15 
> messages for the *entire year*, of which 13 were the monthly/yearly 
> statistics postings. So those don’t really make much of an impact.



Well, if ever needed, do a GoFundMe (or better site) campaign and we'll all 
chip in.  I know I'd have no problem throwing a few bucks at this as a "thank 
you" for such a great resource.

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RE: [ADMIN] Testing new mail relay

[Dave Crozier]

Thanks John,
Can see your reply but not my original post and I guess not this reply either.

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-Original Message-
From: ProFox  On Behalf Of John Weller
Sent: 10 January 2019 10:33
To: profox@leafe.com
Subject: RE: [ADMIN] Testing new mail relay

Hi Dave,

Message received.  I am using Office 365 as a personal account and am seeing my 
posts.

John

John Weller
01380 723235
07976 393631

-Original Message-
From: ProfoxTech  On Behalf Of Dave Crozier
Sent: 10 January 2019 10:24
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Subject: RE: [ADMIN] Testing new mail relay

Ed,
I have all the emails and seem to be able to receive everything apart from my 
own emails and responses, any chance you can give it a look please as it seems 
to be since we moved over to Office 365. I used to send all my emails as davec 
at Flexipol.co.uk when we had exchange but now send them under my domain name 
dcrozier at flesipol.co.uk but can receive under the old alias..

If someone can confirm that they can see this email it will help me in 
confirming I am not going mad and that I am sending correctly.

Thanks

Dave Crozier
Software Development Manager
Flexipol Packaging Ltd.

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price of the goods and all other goods agreed to be sold by the seller to the 
buyer for which payment is then due. Until such time as the property in the 
goods passes to the buyer, the buyer shall hold the goods as the seller's 
fiduciary agent and bailee and keep the goods separate from those of the buyer 
and third parties and properly stored protected and insured and identified as 
the seller's property but shall be entitled to resell or use the goods in the 
ordinary course of its business. Until such time as the property in the goods 
passes to the buyer the seller shall be entitled at any time -Original 
Message-
From: ProfoxTech  On Behalf Of Fernando D. Bozzo
Sent: 09 January 2019 18:58
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Subject: Re: [ADMIN] Testing new mail relay

Test PASSED! - Green light

:D


El mié., 9 ene. 2019 a las 19:52, Ed Leafe () escribió:

> Many of you have had problems receiving mail from the list, as my 
> domain is hosted on a server in the cloud, and many ISPs have blanket 
> blocks on any IP addresses from cloud providers like mine (Digital Ocean).
>
> I’m testing out a new relay service, Mailgun (https://www.mailgun.com/).
> So far it seems to be running well, but if any of you on the receiving 
> end of things notices a problem, please let me know.
>
> One other issue is the cost: it’s free if the total # of emails sent 
> is under 100K, but gets expensive above that. Last year the highest 
> number of emails sent in a month was 280 in May, which is about
> 133,000 total emails, and that would have cost $120 for that month 
> (ouch!). So I’m not sure if I will keep it, but it’s worth a trial at least.
>
>
> -- Ed Leafe
>
>
>
>
>
>
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[John Weller]

Hi Dave,

Message received.  I am using Office 365 as a personal account and am seeing my 
posts.

John

John Weller
01380 723235
07976 393631

-Original Message-
From: ProfoxTech  On Behalf Of Dave Crozier
Sent: 10 January 2019 10:24
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Subject: RE: [ADMIN] Testing new mail relay

Ed,
I have all the emails and seem to be able to receive everything apart from my 
own emails and responses, any chance you can give it a look please as it seems 
to be since we moved over to Office 365. I used to send all my emails as davec 
at Flexipol.co.uk when we had exchange but now send them under my domain name 
dcrozier at flesipol.co.uk but can receive under the old alias..

If someone can confirm that they can see this email it will help me in 
confirming I am not going mad and that I am sending correctly.

Thanks

Dave Crozier
Software Development Manager
Flexipol Packaging Ltd.

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the goods shall not pass to the buyer until the seller Flexipol Packaging Ltd. 
("The Company") has received in cash or cleared funds payment in full of the 
price of the goods and all other goods agreed to be sold by the seller to the 
buyer for which payment is then due. Until such time as the property in the 
goods passes to the buyer, the buyer shall hold the goods as the seller's 
fiduciary agent and bailee and keep the goods separate from those of the buyer 
and third parties and properly stored protected and insured and identified as 
the seller's property but shall be entitled to resell or use the goods in the 
ordinary course of its business. Until such time as the property in the goods 
passes to the buyer the seller shall be entitled at any time -Original 
Message-
From: ProfoxTech  On Behalf Of Fernando D. Bozzo
Sent: 09 January 2019 18:58
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Subject: Re: [ADMIN] Testing new mail relay

Test PASSED! - Green light

:D


El mié., 9 ene. 2019 a las 19:52, Ed Leafe () escribió:

> Many of you have had problems receiving mail from the list, as my 
> domain is hosted on a server in the cloud, and many ISPs have blanket 
> blocks on any IP addresses from cloud providers like mine (Digital Ocean).
>
> I’m testing out a new relay service, Mailgun (https://www.mailgun.com/).
> So far it seems to be running well, but if any of you on the receiving 
> end of things notices a problem, please let me know.
>
> One other issue is the cost: it’s free if the total # of emails sent 
> is under 100K, but gets expensive above that. Last year the highest 
> number of emails sent in a month was 280 in May, which is about
> 133,000 total emails, and that would have cost $120 for that month 
> (ouch!). So I’m not sure if I will keep it, but it’s worth a trial at least.
>
>
> -- Ed Leafe
>
>
>
>
>
>
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[Dave Crozier]

Ed,
I have all the emails and seem to be able to receive everything apart from my 
own emails and responses, any chance you can give it a look please as it seems 
to be since we moved over to Office 365. I used to send all my emails as davec 
at Flexipol.co.uk when we had exchange but now send them under my domain name 
dcrozier at flesipol.co.uk but can receive under the old alias..

If someone can confirm that they can see this email it will help me in 
confirming I am not going mad and that I am sending correctly.

Thanks

Dave Crozier
Software Development Manager
Flexipol Packaging Ltd.

﴾⚆ᨎ⚆﴿



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T 01706 222 792
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e-mail will have been checked for known viruses. However, you are advised to 
run your own virus check before opening any attachments received as Flexipol 
Packaging Ltd will not in any event accept any liability whatsoever once an 
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 It is the responsibility of the recipient to ensure that they have adequate 
virus protection.

-
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​Terms & Conditions:
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the goods shall not pass to the buyer until the seller Flexipol Packaging Ltd. 
("The Company") has received in cash or cleared funds payment in full of the 
price of the goods and all other goods agreed to be sold by the seller to the 
buyer for which payment is then due. Until such time as the property in the 
goods passes to the buyer, the buyer shall hold the goods as the seller's 
fiduciary agent and bailee and keep the goods separate from those of the buyer 
and third parties and properly stored protected and insured and identified as 
the seller's property but shall be entitled to resell or use the goods in the 
ordinary course of its business. Until such time as the property in the goods 
passes to the buyer the seller shall be entitled at any time
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From: ProfoxTech  On Behalf Of Fernando D. Bozzo
Sent: 09 January 2019 18:58
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Subject: Re: [ADMIN] Testing new mail relay

Test PASSED! - Green light

:D


El mié., 9 ene. 2019 a las 19:52, Ed Leafe () escribió:

> Many of you have had problems receiving mail from the list, as my 
> domain is hosted on a server in the cloud, and many ISPs have blanket 
> blocks on any IP addresses from cloud providers like mine (Digital Ocean).
>
> I’m testing out a new relay service, Mailgun (https://www.mailgun.com/).
> So far it seems to be running well, but if any of you on the receiving 
> end of things notices a problem, please let me know.
>
> One other issue is the cost: it’s free if the total # of emails sent 
> is under 100K, but gets expensive above that. Last year the highest 
> number of emails sent in a month was 280 in May, which is about 
> 133,000 total emails, and that would have cost $120 for that month 
> (ouch!). So I’m not sure if I will keep it, but it’s worth a trial at least.
>
>
> -- Ed Leafe
>
>
>
>
>
>
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[Kurt @ Gmail]

+1.

On 1/9/2019 2:36 PM, Paul H. Tarver wrote:

+1.

I'd chip in too!

Paul H. Tarver
Email: p...@tpcqpc.com



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mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2019 3:07 PM
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Subject: Re: [ADMIN] Testing new mail relay


Well, if ever needed, do a GoFundMe (or better site) campaign and we'll
all chip in.  I know I'd have no problem throwing a few bucks at this as
a "thank you" for such a great resource.




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[Paul H. Tarver]

+1. 

I'd chip in too!

Paul H. Tarver
Email: p...@tpcqpc.com 



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mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2019 3:07 PM
To: profoxt...@leafe.com
Subject: Re: [ADMIN] Testing new mail relay


Well, if ever needed, do a GoFundMe (or better site) campaign and we'll 
all chip in.  I know I'd have no problem throwing a few bucks at this as 
a "thank you" for such a great resource.



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[John Weller]

+1

John Weller
01380 723235
07976 393631


Well, if ever needed, do a GoFundMe (or better site) campaign and we'll all 
chip in.  I know I'd have no problem throwing a few bucks at this as a "thank 
you" for such a great resource.




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[Charles Hart Enzer, M.D.]

I assume you have checked out Google Groups

And thank you for the many years of yeomanship


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On Wed, Jan 9, 2019 at 8:52 PM Ed Leafe  wrote:

> Many of you have had problems receiving mail from the list, as my domain
> is hosted on a server in the cloud, and many ISPs have blanket blocks on
> any IP addresses from cloud providers like mine (Digital Ocean).
>
> I’m testing out a new relay service, Mailgun (https://www.mailgun.com/).
> So far it seems to be running well, but if any of you on the receiving end
> of things notices a problem, please let me know.
>
> One other issue is the cost: it’s free if the total # of emails sent is
> under 100K, but gets expensive above that. Last year the highest number of
> emails sent in a month was 280 in May, which is about 133,000 total emails,
> and that would have cost $120 for that month (ouch!). So I’m not sure if I
> will keep it, but it’s worth a trial at least.
>
>
> -- Ed Leafe
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [ADMIN] Testing new mail relay

[mbsoftwaresolutions]

On 2019-01-09 16:02, Ed Leafe wrote:

On Jan 9, 2019, at 2:54 PM, Kurt @ Gmail  wrote:


Ed - I really do NOT think you should use this service - since its 
Pricey - and there's NO Reason why you should pay for the service when 
these forums don't even Net you ANY $$$!


Most months were below the level that the service would be free -
around 210 messages / month. And it would be nice to not have to hunt
down why various people aren’t getting their messages, which usually
ends up being “my ISP is blocking you”.

Also - you do this same similar forum for Python - don't you? Which, 
if so, increases total # of emails, and thus the monthly cost. Or, 
maybe the cost is Per forum type - not grouped together…


I also host the ProLinux and ProPython lists, which were set up to not
clog up ProFox with discussions of moving to Linux or programming in
Python. While they were busy at first, in 2018 they had 17 and 15
messages for the *entire year*, of which 13 were the monthly/yearly
statistics postings. So those don’t really make much of an impact.




Well, if ever needed, do a GoFundMe (or better site) campaign and we'll 
all chip in.  I know I'd have no problem throwing a few bucks at this as 
a "thank you" for such a great resource.


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Re: [ADMIN] Testing new mail relay

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On Jan 9, 2019, at 3:02 PM, Ed Leafe  wrote:
> 
> around 210 messages / month

OK, before anyone starts quibbling over this: I meant 210 *postings* per month, 
which, sent to 475 subscribers, makes 99,750 total email messages sent: just 
below the 100K threshold.

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Re: [ADMIN] Testing new mail relay

[Ed Leafe]

On Jan 9, 2019, at 2:54 PM, Kurt @ Gmail  wrote:
> 
> Ed - I really do NOT think you should use this service - since its Pricey - 
> and there's NO Reason why you should pay for the service when these forums 
> don't even Net you ANY $$$!

Most months were below the level that the service would be free - around 210 
messages / month. And it would be nice to not have to hunt down why various 
people aren’t getting their messages, which usually ends up being “my ISP is 
blocking you”.

> Also - you do this same similar forum for Python - don't you? Which, if so, 
> increases total # of emails, and thus the monthly cost. Or, maybe the cost is 
> Per forum type - not grouped together…

I also host the ProLinux and ProPython lists, which were set up to not clog up 
ProFox with discussions of moving to Linux or programming in Python. While they 
were busy at first, in 2018 they had 17 and 15 messages for the *entire year*, 
of which 13 were the monthly/yearly statistics postings. So those don’t really 
make much of an impact.


-- Ed Leafe






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Re: [ADMIN] Testing new mail relay

[Kurt @ Gmail]

Too late - I already replied back to your last response! But - i know 
what happened - you read things in order - and replied immediately 
instead of seeing the other replies to the thread...


-K-

On 1/9/2019 12:58 PM, mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com wrote:

On 2019-01-09 14:13, Ed Leafe wrote:

On Jan 9, 2019, at 12:58 PM, Gene Wirchenko  wrote:


    The numbers do not make sense.  Does that "100K" mean 100,000 
messages or 100 kilobytes?  How does 280 relate to 133,000?


It’s a monthly limit on the number of messages. And as Ted pointed
out, each post gets sent to each subscriber: 475 as of last May,
though it’s down to 474 as of Jan1
(https://leafe.com/archives/msg/512459). So that’s where the 133K
comes from.



Ah, I see this now.  Please disregard my last post.


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Re: [ADMIN] Testing new mail relay

[mbsoftwaresolutions]

On 2019-01-09 14:13, Ed Leafe wrote:

On Jan 9, 2019, at 12:58 PM, Gene Wirchenko  wrote:


The numbers do not make sense.  Does that "100K" mean 100,000 
messages or 100 kilobytes?  How does 280 relate to 133,000?


It’s a monthly limit on the number of messages. And as Ted pointed
out, each post gets sent to each subscriber: 475 as of last May,
though it’s down to 474 as of Jan1
(https://leafe.com/archives/msg/512459). So that’s where the 133K
comes from.



Ah, I see this now.  Please disregard my last post.

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Re: [ADMIN] Testing new mail relay

[Kurt @ Gmail]

Mike - yeah, both Ed & Ted already answered that Q.

Issue is - its the monthly emails Times the total # of subscribers - 
which equates to the large 133K # total!


Ed - I really do NOT think you should use this service - since its 
Pricey - and there's NO Reason why you should pay for the service when 
these forums don't even Net you ANY $$$!


Also - you do this same similar forum for Python - don't you? Which, if 
so, increases total # of emails, and thus the monthly cost. Or, maybe 
the cost is Per forum type - not grouped together...


My 2.05 centavos - upgraded for inflation...

-K-

On 1/9/2019 12:51 PM, mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com wrote:

On 2019-01-09 13:51, Ed Leafe wrote:

Many of you have had problems receiving mail from the list, as my
domain is hosted on a server in the cloud, and many ISPs have blanket
blocks on any IP addresses from cloud providers like mine (Digital
Ocean).

I’m testing out a new relay service, Mailgun
(https://www.mailgun.com/). So far it seems to be running well, but if
any of you on the receiving end of things notices a problem, please
let me know.

One other issue is the cost: it’s free if the total # of emails sent
is under 100K, but gets expensive above that. Last year the highest
number of emails sent in a month was 280 in May, which is about
133,000 total emails, and that would have cost $120 for that month
(ouch!). So I’m not sure if I will keep it, but it’s worth a trial at
least.



First and foremost, thanks again Ed for doing this list!!!

Help me out with that math on the above.  280 emails in May...that 
multiplied by 12 months equates to 3360 emails for the year.  Or is 
multiplied by the number of folks subscribed to arrive at your 133,000 
number?



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Re: [ADMIN] Testing new mail relay

[mbsoftwaresolutions]

On 2019-01-09 13:51, Ed Leafe wrote:

Many of you have had problems receiving mail from the list, as my
domain is hosted on a server in the cloud, and many ISPs have blanket
blocks on any IP addresses from cloud providers like mine (Digital
Ocean).

I’m testing out a new relay service, Mailgun
(https://www.mailgun.com/). So far it seems to be running well, but if
any of you on the receiving end of things notices a problem, please
let me know.

One other issue is the cost: it’s free if the total # of emails sent
is under 100K, but gets expensive above that. Last year the highest
number of emails sent in a month was 280 in May, which is about
133,000 total emails, and that would have cost $120 for that month
(ouch!). So I’m not sure if I will keep it, but it’s worth a trial at
least.



First and foremost, thanks again Ed for doing this list!!!

Help me out with that math on the above.  280 emails in May...that 
multiplied by 12 months equates to 3360 emails for the year.  Or is 
multiplied by the number of folks subscribed to arrive at your 133,000 
number?


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Re: [ADMIN] Testing new mail relay

[Ed Leafe]

On Jan 9, 2019, at 12:58 PM, Gene Wirchenko  wrote:
> 
> The numbers do not make sense.  Does that "100K" mean 100,000 messages or 
> 100 kilobytes?  How does 280 relate to 133,000?

It’s a monthly limit on the number of messages. And as Ted pointed out, each 
post gets sent to each subscriber: 475 as of last May, though it’s down to 474 
as of Jan1 (https://leafe.com/archives/msg/512459). So that’s where the 133K 
comes from.


-- Ed Leafe






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Re: [ADMIN] Testing new mail relay

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On Wed, Jan 9, 2019 at 1:58 PM Gene Wirchenko  wrote:


> How does 280 relate to 133,000?
>

133,000 is EXACTLY 475 times 280, so it is possible that there are 475
subscribers receiving 280 messages.


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Re: [ADMIN] Testing new mail relay

[Fernando D. Bozzo]

Test PASSED! - Green light

:D


El mié., 9 ene. 2019 a las 19:52, Ed Leafe () escribió:

> Many of you have had problems receiving mail from the list, as my domain
> is hosted on a server in the cloud, and many ISPs have blanket blocks on
> any IP addresses from cloud providers like mine (Digital Ocean).
>
> I’m testing out a new relay service, Mailgun (https://www.mailgun.com/).
> So far it seems to be running well, but if any of you on the receiving end
> of things notices a problem, please let me know.
>
> One other issue is the cost: it’s free if the total # of emails sent is
> under 100K, but gets expensive above that. Last year the highest number of
> emails sent in a month was 280 in May, which is about 133,000 total emails,
> and that would have cost $120 for that month (ouch!). So I’m not sure if I
> will keep it, but it’s worth a trial at least.
>
>
> -- Ed Leafe
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [ADMIN] Testing new mail relay

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At 10:51 2019-01-09, Ed Leafe  wrote:
Many of you have had problems receiving mail 
from the list, as my domain is hosted on a 
server in the cloud, and many ISPs have blanket 
blocks on any IP addresses from cloud providers 
like mine (Digital Ocean). I’m testing out a 
new relay service, Mailgun 
(https://www.mailgun.com/). So far it seems to 
be running well, but if any of you on the 
receiving end of things notices a problem, 
please let me know. One other issue is the cost: 
it’s free if the total # of emails sent is 
under 100K, but gets expensive above that. Last 
year the highest number of emails sent in a 
month was 280 in May, which is about 133,000 
total emails, and that would have cost $120 for 
that month (ouch!). So I’m not sure if I will 
keep it, but it’s worth a trial at least.


 The numbers do not make sense.  Does that 
"100K" mean 100,000 messages or 100 kilobytes?  How does 280 relate to 133,000?


 For testing, I suggest that you send some 
regular test messages.  You might send three per 
day evenly spaced over a week, and number 
them.  "This is test message 1.", "This is test 
message 2.", etc.  Any of us noticing some missing can let you know.


Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko


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[ADMIN] Testing new mail relay

[Ed Leafe]

Many of you have had problems receiving mail from the list, as my domain is 
hosted on a server in the cloud, and many ISPs have blanket blocks on any IP 
addresses from cloud providers like mine (Digital Ocean).

I’m testing out a new relay service, Mailgun (https://www.mailgun.com/). So far 
it seems to be running well, but if any of you on the receiving end of things 
notices a problem, please let me know.

One other issue is the cost: it’s free if the total # of emails sent is under 
100K, but gets expensive above that. Last year the highest number of emails 
sent in a month was 280 in May, which is about 133,000 total emails, and that 
would have cost $120 for that month (ouch!). So I’m not sure if I will keep it, 
but it’s worth a trial at least.


-- Ed Leafe






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