RE: [NF] The Ultimate Vista Upgrade

2007-02-06 Thread John Weller
Hi Alan, That's great now all I need to do is work out how to use it! I've managed to browse the net and download a later version of Audacity so it's hopeful! John Weller 01380 723235 07976 393631 John, get yourself the free VMWare Player (http://www.vmware.com/products/player/), then go to

Re: [NF] The Ultimate Vista Upgrade

2007-02-06 Thread Ted Roche
On 2/5/07, Rick Schummer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You stated in a previous post that you have a Linux box (for most software) and a Windows box (for Fox and Quickbooks), as did Whil, to run your business. I was using your example. Am I remembering wrong? Yeah, or I'm not communicating as

Re: [NF] The Ultimate Vista Upgrade

2007-02-05 Thread Alan Bourke
Hohn Weller wrote: Is there a similar sort of book for Linux - a 'Linux for Windows Users' perhaps? I need something which will advise me on how to set a machine from scratch for basic email and word processing use; perhaps as a MySQL data server then - who knows? Dabo perhaps? John,

RE: [NF] The Ultimate Vista Upgrade

2007-02-05 Thread John Weller
Clever - I'll do that later! Thanks Alan. John Weller 01380 723235 07976 393631 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Alan Bourke Sent: 05 February 2007 09:12 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [NF] The Ultimate Vista Upgrade Hohn

Re: [NF] The Ultimate Vista Upgrade

2007-02-05 Thread Kenneth Kixmoeller/fh
OK, I got Ubuntu installed, got on my network and the internet, performed 119 updates g, installed Thunderbird, and subscribed to ProLinux. Easy as pie, so far. On to more. Before I move over to ProLinux with this stuff, any interesting, useful, or cool stuff I should try or install? Ken

Re: [NF] The Ultimate Vista Upgrade

2007-02-05 Thread Kevin Cully
If you are going to be doing HTML stuff, I really like the Quanta+ editor. It's my favorite HTML editor by far! You can get that installed via Synaptic. Kenneth Kixmoeller/fh wrote: OK, I got Ubuntu installed, got on my network and the internet, performed 119 updates g, installed

Re: [NF] The Ultimate Vista Upgrade

2007-02-05 Thread Ted Roche
On 2/5/07, Kenneth Kixmoeller/fh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On to more. Before I move over to ProLinux with this stuff, any interesting, useful, or cool stuff I should try or install? It's full of stars. -- Keir Dullea There's too many choices, Ken, I've got to warn you. There are cool tools

Re: [NF] The Ultimate Vista Upgrade

2007-02-05 Thread Kenneth Kixmoeller/fh
On Feb 5, 2007, at 9:33 AM, Kevin Cully wrote: I really like the Quanta+ editor get that installed via Synaptic. I'll check it out (just as soon as I figure out what Synaptic is.) Thanks Ken ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com

Re: [NF] The Ultimate Vista Upgrade

2007-02-05 Thread Whil Hentzen (Pro*)
Kenneth Kixmoeller/fh wrote: OK, I got Ubuntu installed, got on my network and the internet, performed 119 updates g, installed Thunderbird, and subscribed to ProLinux. Easy as pie, so far. On to more. Before I move over to ProLinux with this stuff, any interesting, useful, or cool

Re: [NF] The Ultimate Vista Upgrade

2007-02-05 Thread Whil Hentzen (Pro*)
Kenneth Kixmoeller/fh wrote: OK, I got Ubuntu installed, got on my network and the internet, performed 119 updates g, installed Thunderbird, and subscribed to ProLinux. Easy as pie, so far. /snicker/ (stage whisper) Hey, guys, we hooked another one! Whil

RE: [NF] The Ultimate Vista Upgrade

2007-02-05 Thread Rick Schummer
And once you've installed KDE PLEASE install Basket 0.6.0, you won't regret it. Are you trying to help with my point? bg Rick White Light Computing, Inc. www.whitelightcomputing.com www.rickschummer.com 586.254.2530 - office 586.254.2539 - fax  

RE: [NF] The Ultimate Vista Upgrade

2007-02-05 Thread Rick Schummer
This concept of having a choice is definitely bad. Too many choices! Stop! Make them stop! Just tell me what to do. I don't want to have to decide!! gdrfRS I am not saying choice is bad and you know that. What I am saying is it is confusing the marketplace. I don't want to return to the

Re: [NF] The Ultimate Vista Upgrade

2007-02-05 Thread Kenneth Kixmoeller/fh
On Feb 5, 2007, at 10:26 AM, Whil Hentzen (Pro*) wrote: (stage whisper) Hey, guys, we hooked another one! Yeah -- I'm already trying to figure out when I can take the time to move it from over there (where I stuck my old computer) when I built the new one, to over here where I can pl, er,

Re: [NF] The Ultimate Vista Upgrade

2007-02-05 Thread Ed Leafe
On Feb 5, 2007, at 11:31 AM, Rick Schummer wrote: And once you've installed KDE PLEASE install Basket 0.6.0, you won't regret it. Are you trying to help with my point? bg Was your point that there are a whole lot of really cool tools available for Linux that can make you as

Re: [NF] The Ultimate Vista Upgrade

2007-02-05 Thread Kenneth Kixmoeller/fh
On Feb 5, 2007, at 10:05 AM, Ted Roche wrote: Try looking at the question from the other side: what is it you want to do with your computer? The Answers Are Out There. Just work, which is 90% PHP/MySQL and HTML right now. The only play stuff involves family photos movies. I suppose

Re: [NF] The Ultimate Vista Upgrade

2007-02-05 Thread Ted Roche
On 2/5/07, Rick Schummer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not that choosing a car is anything like choosing an operating system, but I am sure you recognize the similarities of the situation. All the cars run the same gasoline. All the Linuxes run the same kernel. Most cars have a similar UI:

RE: [NF] The Ultimate Vista Upgrade

2007-02-05 Thread Rick Schummer
Please don't speak for me.I don't want to be down to one. That would be a monopoly and a monotony. I was not speaking *for* you Ted. You stated in a previous post that you have a Linux box (for most software) and a Windows box (for Fox and Quickbooks), as did Whil, to run your business. I was

Re: [NF] The Ultimate Vista Upgrade

2007-02-05 Thread Chet Gardiner
Which version? http://joyoftech.com/joyoftech/joyarchives/915.html mrgmhale wrote: Too many choices! Stop! Make them stop! Just tell me what to do. I don't want to have to decide!! Use Windows Vista in a new PC. No Brainer g... Gil

RE: [NF] The Ultimate Vista Upgrade

2007-02-05 Thread Pablo H Rivera Sr
] On Behalf Of Chet Gardiner * Subject: Re: [NF] The Ultimate Vista Upgrade * * Which version? * * http://joyoftech.com/joyoftech/joyarchives/915.html * * mrgmhale wrote: * * Too many choices! Stop! Make them stop! Just tell me what to do. I * don't want to have to decide!! * * * Use

RE: [NF] The Ultimate Vista Upgrade

2007-02-04 Thread John Weller
I found Whil's book on using MySQL with VFP excellent. Is there a similar sort of book for Linux - a 'Linux for Windows Users' perhaps? I need something which will advise me on how to set a machine from scratch for basic email and word processing use; perhaps as a MySQL data server then - who

RE: [NF] The Ultimate Vista Upgrade

2007-02-04 Thread Rick Schummer
John, I need something which will advise me on how to set a machine from scratch for basic email and word processing use... This is absolutely the primary roadblock for large scale adoption of Linux in my opinion. Installing and configuring the operating system needs to be easy before the

RE: [NF] The Ultimate Vista Upgrade

2007-02-04 Thread John Weller
Hi Rick, I have been playing with Kubuntu and Ubuntu and found them very easy to install - but I didn't seem to have any control over where everything went. I assume that they were placed in the 'correct' places but then some of the comments here about where to locate apps and data made me wonder

Re: [NF] The Ultimate Vista Upgrade

2007-02-04 Thread Ed Leafe
On Feb 4, 2007, at 6:47 AM, John Weller wrote: I found Whil's book on using MySQL with VFP excellent. Is there a similar sort of book for Linux - a 'Linux for Windows Users' perhaps? I need something which will advise me on how to set a machine from scratch for basic email and word

RE: [NF] The Ultimate Vista Upgrade

2007-02-04 Thread Stephen the Cook
Rick Schummer wrote: John, I need something which will advise me on how to set a machine from scratch for basic email and word processing use... This is absolutely the primary roadblock for large scale adoption of Linux in my opinion. Installing and configuring the operating system

RE: [NF] The Ultimate Vista Upgrade

2007-02-04 Thread John Weller
2007 14:24 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [NF] The Ultimate Vista Upgrade On Feb 4, 2007, at 6:47 AM, John Weller wrote: I found Whil's book on using MySQL with VFP excellent. Is there a similar sort of book for Linux - a 'Linux for Windows Users' perhaps? I need something which

RE: [NF] The Ultimate Vista Upgrade

2007-02-04 Thread mrgmhale
Treason! g -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ted Roche Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 7:32 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [NF] The Ultimate Vista Upgrade On 2/3/07, Kenneth Kixmoeller/fh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fabulous

RE: [NF] The Ultimate Vista Upgrade

2007-02-04 Thread mrgmhale
Another treasonist g!!! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Whil Hentzen (Pro*) Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 8:25 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [NF] The Ultimate Vista Upgrade Ted Roche wrote: On 2/3/07, Kenneth Kixmoeller

Re: [NF] The Ultimate Vista Upgrade

2007-02-04 Thread Ed Leafe
On Feb 4, 2007, at 9:45 AM, John Weller wrote: Thanks for that. I've already done steps 1 to 5 on an old laptop but gave up as the laptop was a P2 and just not man enough for the job. I hope to acquire another, more powerful machine, in a few weeks and try again. Without a

Re: [NF] The Ultimate Vista Upgrade

2007-02-04 Thread Ed Leafe
On Feb 4, 2007, at 10:03 AM, mrgmhale wrote: Another treasonist g!!! That's 'traitor'. ;-) Interesting how your posts are just a few words instead of your usual paragraph upon paragraph. Maybe that injury is a good thing!! gdrvvvf! -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com --

RE: [NF] The Ultimate Vista Upgrade

2007-02-04 Thread mrgmhale
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ed Leafe Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 10:05 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [NF] The Ultimate Vista Upgrade On Feb 4, 2007, at 10:03 AM, mrgmhale wrote: Another treasonist g!!! That's 'traitor'. ;-) Interesting how your posts are just

Re: [NF] The Ultimate Vista Upgrade

2007-02-04 Thread Whil Hentzen (Pro*)
John Weller wrote: I found Whil's book on using MySQL with VFP excellent. Is there a similar sort of book for Linux - a 'Linux for Windows Users' perhaps? I need something which will advise me on how to set a machine from scratch for basic email and word processing use; perhaps as a MySQL

Re: [NF] The Ultimate Vista Upgrade

2007-02-04 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
John Weller wrote: Hi Ed, Thanks for that. I've already done steps 1 to 5 on an old laptop but gave up as the laptop was a P2 and just not man enough for the job. I hope to acquire another, more powerful machine, in a few weeks and try again. I was very impressed with the ease of use of

Re: [NF] The Ultimate Vista Upgrade

2007-02-04 Thread Whil Hentzen (Pro*)
Rick Schummer wrote: John, I need something which will advise me on how to set a machine from scratch for basic email and word processing use... This is absolutely the primary roadblock for large scale adoption of Linux in my opinion. Installing and configuring the operating system

Re: [NF] The Ultimate Vista Upgrade

2007-02-04 Thread Ted Roche
On 2/4/07, John Weller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I found Whil's book on using MySQL with VFP excellent. Is there a similar sort of book for Linux - a 'Linux for Windows Users' perhaps? I need something which will advise me on how to set a machine from scratch for basic email and word

RE: [NF] The Ultimate Vista Upgrade

2007-02-04 Thread John Weller
Thanks to all - I've just ordered Linux Transfer for Windows Power Users from Amazon here in UK. I notice that the cover and ISBN are the same but the author is Martin Brown whereas on Whil's site he is shown as the author - is this a plot to confuse the Brits? John Weller 01380 723235 07976

Re: [NF] The Ultimate Vista Upgrade

2007-02-04 Thread Bob Patterson
I would recommend any book by Marcel Gagne on Linux -  'Moving to Linux' is a goody, and there are several others, from beginners to system administrators. See Amazon ...    Marcel writes a column in Linux Journal magazine - I've subscribed for years ...   He lives in Mississauga, and has

Re: [NF] The Ultimate Vista Upgrade

2007-02-04 Thread Whil Hentzen (Pro*)
John Weller wrote: Thanks to all - I've just ordered Linux Transfer for Windows Power Users from Amazon here in UK. I notice that the cover and ISBN are the same but the author is Martin Brown whereas on Whil's site he is shown as the author - is this a plot to confuse the Brits? Amazon

Re: [NF] The Ultimate Vista Upgrade

2007-02-04 Thread Kenneth Kixmoeller/fh
On Feb 3, 2007, at 6:31 PM, Ted Roche wrote: Let me know if I can help Thank you so much. I have been promising myself to do it for a good long while. I am downloading Ubuntu as we speak and following this conversation. Ken ___ Post Messages

Re: [NF] The Ultimate Vista Upgrade

2007-02-04 Thread Kenneth Kixmoeller/fh
On Feb 4, 2007, at 9:19 AM, Whil Hentzen (Pro*) wrote: If there was just one religion that we all had to practice... Well, according to some in here ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance:

Re: [NF] The Ultimate Vista Upgrade

2007-02-04 Thread Kenneth Kixmoeller/fh
...Burning the Ubuntu CD The machine I'm going to install it on is my prior development machine. (Straining to remember RAM, Processor, etc.) I know that the hard disk that is in there has some old crap on it. Can I run a utility from the Ubuntu CD to reformat it, or should I do it

Re: [NF] The Ultimate Vista Upgrade

2007-02-04 Thread Ed Leafe
On Feb 4, 2007, at 3:18 PM, Kenneth Kixmoeller/fh wrote: I know that the hard disk that is in there has some old crap on it. Can I run a utility from the Ubuntu CD to reformat it, or should I do it some other way first? (Does Knoppix have a utility for that?) IIRC, you get the option

Re: [NF] The Ultimate Vista Upgrade

2007-02-04 Thread Kenneth Kixmoeller/fh
On Feb 4, 2007, at 2:18 PM, Ed Leafe wrote: IIRC, you get the option of installing to the free space on the disk (if any), or reformatting. You did RC. It is reformatting at this moment. Ah, it is done... Installing... (Amazing what stuff you can get done at home on a -7℉ day.) Ken

Re: [NF] The Ultimate Vista Upgrade

2007-02-04 Thread Kevin Cully
Linux offers some additional options for weak hardware as well. Ubuntu has a nice smaller cousin named Xubuntu that runs nicely on PIIIs. For PIIs, you might want to try out Damn Small Linux (aka DSL) or Peanut Linux. I haven't tried Peanut Linux in a while, but DSL makes old hardware just

Re: [NF] The Ultimate Vista Upgrade

2007-02-04 Thread Whil Hentzen (Pro*)
Kevin Cully wrote: Linux offers some additional options for weak hardware as well. Ubuntu has a nice smaller cousin named Xubuntu that runs nicely on PIIIs. For PIIs, you might want to try out Damn Small Linux (aka DSL) or Peanut Linux. I haven't tried Peanut Linux in a while, but DSL makes

Re: [NF] The Ultimate Vista Upgrade

2007-02-04 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
Whil Hentzen (Pro*) wrote: Kevin Cully wrote: Linux offers some additional options for weak hardware as well. Ubuntu has a nice smaller cousin named Xubuntu that runs nicely on PIIIs. For PIIs, you might want to try out Damn Small Linux (aka DSL) or Peanut Linux. I haven't tried Peanut

Re: [NF] The Ultimate Vista Upgrade

2007-02-04 Thread Ted Roche
On 2/4/07, Whil Hentzen (Pro*) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Too many choices! Stop! Make them stop! Just tell me what to do. I don't want to have to decide!! I'm sorry, Whil, there's no turning back now. Windows, in an attempt to be more like Open Source, has added one feature to Vista:

RE: [NF] The Ultimate Vista Upgrade

2007-02-04 Thread mrgmhale
, 2007 7:41 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [NF] The Ultimate Vista Upgrade Kevin Cully wrote: Linux offers some additional options for weak hardware as well. Ubuntu has a nice smaller cousin named Xubuntu that runs nicely on PIIIs. For PIIs, you might want to try out Damn Small

[NF] The Ultimate Vista Upgrade

2007-02-03 Thread Ted Roche
http://www.degredo.net/ -- Ted Roche Ted Roche Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list:

Re: [NF] The Ultimate Vista Upgrade

2007-02-03 Thread Kenneth Kixmoeller/fh
On Feb 3, 2007, at 9:01 AM, Ted Roche wrote: http://www.degredo.net/ Fabulous! (I gotta get there, too.) Ken ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list:

RE: [NF] The Ultimate Vista Upgrade

2007-02-03 Thread mrgmhale
Excellent! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ted Roche Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 10:02 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [NF] The Ultimate Vista Upgrade http://www.degredo.net/ -- Ted Roche Ted Roche Associates, LLC http

Re: [NF] The Ultimate Vista Upgrade

2007-02-03 Thread Ted Roche
On 2/3/07, Kenneth Kixmoeller/fh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fabulous! (I gotta get there, too.) Let me know if I can help. October/November last year was (finally!) switchover time and (other than QuickBooks and FoxPro support) I've been 100% Linux and Mac since then. It's not so hard once you

Re: [NF] The Ultimate Vista Upgrade

2007-02-03 Thread Whil Hentzen (Pro*)
Ted Roche wrote: On 2/3/07, Kenneth Kixmoeller/fh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fabulous! (I gotta get there, too.) Let me know if I can help. October/November last year was (finally!) switchover time and (other than QuickBooks and FoxPro support) I've been 100% Linux and Mac since then. It's

Re: [NF] The Ultimate Vista Upgrade

2007-02-03 Thread Ted Roche
On 2/3/07, Whil Hentzen (Pro*) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've taken the step of turning my Windows machine off when I'm not using it. It stays off for days when I'm not doing Fox or, like Ted, end of the month finances. It's really quite... liberating. -- Ted Roche Ted Roche Associates,