Nicholas Geti wrote:
And over that same period prices of houses rose astronomically.
Ok. So here's my advice for you two lads. Borrow as much money as you
can at whatever interest rate you are asked. If the interest rate is
tied to inflation or to nominal rate then THAT'S better than
On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 9:42 PM, Michael Madigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Only an idiot would get a variable-rate loan.
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They were in fashion when your house was a short term 4 year
investment. You expected to move upwards in the 4th year so you
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Nicholas Geti wrote:
I have never seen an interest rate for borrowing tied
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Nicholas Geti wrote:
And over that same period prices of houses rose
Nicholas Geti wrote:
I have never seen an interest rate for borrowing tied to inflation.
They are always fixed rates.
Seems to me that the so-called adjustable-rate mortgages are
indirectly tied to inflation.
Not inflation but other indicies at the lenders choosing.
Nicholas Geti wrote:
Not inflation but other indicies at the lenders choosing.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adjustable_rate_mortgage They did not exist
when I bought my house 40 years ago.
As an aside, I paid $44,500 for my house at that time. Last year it was
evaluated at $650,000. I paid
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Nicholas Geti wrote:
Not inflation but other
There were a lot of people who were sold variable rates to get them into a
house they couldn't afford. In 5 years, their salary would be way higher and
of course interest rates would remain low.
The sub-prime mortgage brokers were morally equivalent to drug dealers.
On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 11:18 AM, Michael Madigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There were a lot of people who were sold variable rates to get them into a
house they couldn't afford. In 5 years, their salary would be way higher and
of course interest rates would remain low.
The sub-prime
Nicholas Geti wrote:
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Nicholas Geti wrote:
And over that same
You're just incapable of a rational discussion, aren't you?
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--- On Thu, 12/4/08, Ricardo Aráoz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Ricardo Aráoz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:
And over that same period prices of houses rose astronomically.
Ok. So here's my advice for you two lads. Borrow as much money as you
can at whatever interest rate you are asked. If the interest rate is
tied to inflation or to nominal rate then THAT'S better than static
interest. Go ahead!
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From: Pete Theisen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 7:05 PM
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Nicholas Geti wrote:
Nicholas Geti wrote:
Refer to my previous note. How do
Nicholas Geti wrote:
I have never seen an interest rate for borrowing tied to inflation.
They are always fixed rates.
Hi Nicholas!
Seems to me that the so-called adjustable-rate mortgages are
indirectly tied to inflation.
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Regards,
Pete
http://pete-theisen.com/
Indirectly if the rates go up along with inflation.
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--- On Wed, 12/3/08, Pete Theisen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Pete Theisen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [OT]
Nicholas Geti wrote:
In my area the price of houses in the last 15 years doubled and in some
cases tripled. The market was very hot. People were buying second houses for
resale. Condominiums were especially volatile. Many people I know where
putting down payments on condos that were just
Michael Madigan wrote:
Indirectly if the rates go up along with inflation.
I have never seen an interest rate for borrowing tied
to inflation. They are always fixed rates.
Seems to me that the so-called adjustable-rate mortgages are
indirectly tied to inflation.
Hi Guys!
A couple of years
Nicholas Geti wrote:
And over that same period prices of houses rose astronomically.
Ok. So here's my advice for you two lads. Borrow as much money as you
can at whatever interest rate you are asked. If the interest rate is
tied to inflation or to nominal rate then THAT'S better than
Only an idiot would get a variable-rate loan.
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--- On Wed, 12/3/08, Ricardo Aráoz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Ricardo Aráoz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [OT] How to
Michael Madigan wrote:
Only an idiot would get a variable-rate loan.
Hi Michael!
Yes, I had second thoughts and converted it into a reverse when I turned
62. That worked out for me big time.
--
Regards,
Pete
http://pete-theisen.com/
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Our fixed rate loans are today 3% lower than they were 6months ago. Only an
idiot would get a fixed rate loan.
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Really? Borrow $500,000 for a house at 10%pa while house prices are rising
at
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There are a number of assumptions implicit in that scenario. Let's see if
you
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Nicholas Geti wrote:
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From: Geoff Flight [EMAIL
Nicholas Geti wrote:
Really? Borrow $500,000 for a house at 10%pa while house prices are rising
at an average 2%pa. Calculate in 30 years time how much you paid compared
to how much the house is worth. YOU LOSE. Now try it the other way around.
YOU WIN. Pretty basic really.
Refer to my
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Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 12:55 PM
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Nicholas Geti wrote:
Really? Borrow $500,000 for a house at 10%pa while house
Nicholas Geti wrote:
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Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 12:55 PM
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Nicholas Geti wrote:
Really? Borrow
Nicholas Geti wrote:
Nicholas Geti wrote:
Refer to my previous note. How do you figure the house is worth less
after 30 years.
http://tinyurl.com/6e74eq
And over that same period prices of houses rose astronomically.
Hi Nicholas!
I agree that the houses rose, but I wonder if they
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Sent: Friday, November 28, 2008 5:47 PM
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Nicholas Geti wrote:
Governments can never go bankrupt. They just print more
Kristyne McDaniel wrote:
Madigan,
Care to explain this strange attack?
Not much explanation needed. You scream doom and gloom and then act
surprised when gloom and doom happen.
Please check todays numbers... It gets even better.
Jim
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--- On Mon, 12/1/08, James Roark(The Dogstar Group) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: James Roark(The Dogstar Group) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Nicholas,
Ricardo, you need to understand the concept of money.
It is irrelevant whether the rich have their worth in
cash or other instruments. It is still money and is
directly affected by inflation; everything they buy
including other investment instruments will go up
in price.
Another
Nicholas Geti wrote:
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Sent: Friday, November 28, 2008 5:47 PM
Subject: Re: [OT] How to determine if a market has hit THE bottom.
Nicholas Geti wrote:
Governments can never
Kristyne McDaniel wrote:
Nicholas,
Ricardo, you need to understand the concept of money.
It is irrelevant whether the rich have their worth in
cash or other instruments. It is still money and is
directly affected by inflation; everything they buy
including other investment instruments
Most incomes go up quicker in inflationary times.
It is generally recognized that borrowers gain value in inflationary times and
lenders lose value.
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--- On Mon,
That is not even close to true. Borrowers are better off if inflation is
greater then the interest rate on the loan - otherwise they lose. Same
applies to incomes: if your income rises more than inflation then you are
ahead and vice versa. Simple mathematics really.
-Original Message-
You must enjoy sticking your foot in your mouth over and over again.
Wealth effects. Inflation redistributes income between borrowers and lenders.
Suppose you borrow $100,000 for a 30-year mortgage at 7% interest, giving you a
monthly housepayment of about $665. During the next 30 years, as
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Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 3:20 PM
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Nicholas,
Ricardo, you need to understand the concept of money.
It is
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Nicholas Geti wrote:
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Kristyne McDaniel wrote:
Nicholas,
Ricardo, you need to understand the
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Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 5:20 PM
Subject: RE: [OT] How to determine if a market has hit THE bottom.
That is not even close to true. Borrowers are better off if inflation is
greater
There are a number of assumptions implicit in that scenario. Let's see if
you can identify them. It makes ZERO mention of the wage/inflation
comparison and absurdly assumes they are equal. History shows that in times
of high inflation (eg 80s/90s) wages failed to keep up with inflation. It
also
Really? Borrow $500,000 for a house at 10%pa while house prices are rising
at an average 2%pa. Calculate in 30 years time how much you paid compared to
how much the house is worth. YOU LOSE. Now try it the other way around. YOU
WIN. Pretty basic really.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL
You're missing the utility of having a roof over your head. People normally
don't buy houses to make money, they buy houses to live in.
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--- On Mon, 12/1/08, Geoff
And FINALLY, you get the point. The reason borrowers are less concerned with
being 'better off or worse off' is that they don't have a choice: they need
a house - period. It isn't primarily an investment. Lenders however are
treating the loan as an investment and therefore are far more concerned
Nicholas Geti wrote:
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Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 5:52 PM
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Nicholas Geti wrote:
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Nicholas Geti wrote:
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From: Geoff Flight [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'ProFox Email List' profox@leafe.com
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 5:20 PM
Subject: RE: [OT] How to determine if a market has hit THE bottom.
That is not even close to true. Borrowers are better
KAM.covad wrote:
Funny how few people realize that. Some congressman can promise them a
handout and they will vote for him. They just can't seem to
realize that handout will not buy what it bought yesterday. Not only that,
their kids will have to pay it back someday. The
European
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 4:36 PM, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The economy is bad, we've only got 94.5% of the people working! The
depression had 25% out of work, we have a ways to go yet
--
You guys are quoting Sept. numbers I think. It is getting a lot worse
at
Governments can never go bankrupt. They just print more money.
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Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2008 3:04 PM
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Having the
Nicholas Geti wrote:
Governments can never go bankrupt. They just print more money.
Besides which we should correct a concept here. If govt. prints money
(inflation) it is not the rich who'll pay the party, they will certainly
not have their money in cash, and what they have they will
Funny how few people realize that. Some congressman can promise them a handout
and they will vote for him. They just can't seem to
realize that handout will not buy what it bought yesterday. Not only that,
their kids will have to pay it back someday. The
European governments are well aware of
I don't think the blame for the financial crisis can be assigned to one
particular political party or even particular individuals. It was a kind
of mass psychology in which greed and selfishness drove an entire
industry into near ruin. Below is my understanding of what has occurred:
A Credit
Perhaps it is the American people, including you, who are to blame for
having been duped into electing George W. Bush as president for two terms.
Regards,
LelandJ
John wrote:
He is so stupid, he beat the dems twice. What does that say about them?G
John Harvey
-Original Message-
There was no other option. Gore? . . . please! Kerry? ... double please!
John Harvey
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Leland Jackson
Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2008 10:32 AM
To: ProFox Email List
Subject: Re: [OT] How to determine if a
Countrywide Financial was a chain of 200 or 300 saving and loan companies,
sometime called thrift institutions, located in California and Nevada.
Countrywide was one of the first mortgage companies to get in trouble
writing risky mortgages, including ARMs, (eg adjustable rate mortgages),
which
First things first. Having excessive deficit spending is irrelevant, if
the USA goes bankrupt. Right now it's important to turn the economic
decline around, which will require some short term spending to put the
unemployed back to work, to prevent additional losses in employment, and
to
Also, the security laws regulating trading in derivatives needs to be
reformed to make it illegal to simple gambler or bet on a derivative.
Only investors that have a vested interest in the underlying item on
which a value is derived should be allowed to invest the derivatives.
Regards,
John wrote:
Now its just a matter of getting people into the houses so the big
banks can retire the old mortgages in default with new mortgages that are
performing on the underlying real estate collateral.
Hi John!
The people didn't have to even move. They could just refinance into one
of
Leland Jackson wrote:
First things first. Having excessive deficit spending is irrelevant, if
the USA goes bankrupt.
Hi Leland!
So run up a huge debt and declare bankruptcy? The guys stuck with the
bill are the richies, vast numbers of whom are foreign nationals.
--
Regards,
Pete
According to the United States housing bubble Wiki, On October 15,
2008, Anthony Faiola, Ellen Nakashima and Jill Drew , wrote a lengthy
article in the Washington Post titled, What Went Wrong. In their
investigation, the authors claim that Greenspan vehemently opposed any
regulation of
Having the USA government go out of business is a risky proposition;
since, an unknown will fill the power vacuum, and its hard to predict
how you and I might fare in the new environment, but the odds are we
wouldn't fare well.
Regards,
LelandJ
Pete Theisen wrote:
Leland Jackson wrote:
Leland Jackson wrote:
On June 2, 1987 President Reagan nominates Greenspan for chairman of the
Federal Reserve Board, which he served for five terms until January 31,
2006. He served under the following presidents:
2 terms - Ronald Reagan - Republican
1 term - George H. W. Bush -
Pete Theisen wrote:
Leland Jackson wrote:
On June 2, 1987 President Reagan nominates Greenspan for chairman of the
Federal Reserve Board, which he served for five terms until January 31,
2006. He served under the following presidents:
2 terms - Ronald Reagan - Republican
1 term -
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 10:53 AM, Stephen Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am guessing that we are all involved with stocks and funds. Some of
us don't pay attention to the signs and others are on top of them.
That is why I put this as NF and not to be lost in the land of OT.
Even though
I had all my retirement funds in SPY - a SP 500 index EFT. I am so sure that
this is a bottom that I sold everything and bought
SSO also a SP 500 index EFT but is leveraged so it should go up more than SPY
or mutual funds like VFINX. I bought SSO at 24.75
and 22.90
A paper loss means nothing
The time to buy is after the market starts to rise, say to 10,000, or at least
after the market breaks through the 200 day moving average again.
Sure you won't pick the bottom, but you won't get sucked any lower either.
There will be lousy earnings for at least a year now and probably a lot
You shouldn't try to pick bottoms, nobody can. The mere fact that people are
saying this is probably a bottom means this isn't the bottom.
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--- On Wed, 11/26/08,
Madigan,
You shouldn't try to pick bottoms, nobody can. The mere fact
that people are saying this is probably a bottom means this
isn't the bottom.
You're not exactly the guy I'd choose as a market advisor. Guys like you are
the reason the market went so far down in the first place.
Care to explain this strange attack?
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--- On Wed, 11/26/08, Kristyne McDaniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Kristyne McDaniel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [OT] How to
Madigan,
Care to explain this strange attack?
Not much explanation needed. You scream doom and gloom and then act
surprised when gloom and doom happen.
Thus far, with Obama not even in office yet, the markets are quieting down
as he reveals the new folks that will be replacing Bush ineptitude.
I wasn't screaming doom and gloom, that was the Obama campaign who told us for
2 years how the economy was the worst since the Great Depression.
That's why knuckleheads like you voted for him.
Now that he's elected and the market tanked further, you suddenly don't like
gloom and doom talk
The truly odd thing about markets is that they are drive as much my
psychology as about fundamentals. That is why a president or Prime Minister
talking negatively about an economy actually drives it down and vice versa.
Same applies to well known economists etc. For reasons I've never
understood,
The economy in the US IS the worst since the depression. The markets
starting falling year ago. You are the only personI know who is blaming
Obama for the financial crisis. Not surprising, since it is utterly
ludicrous.
-Original Message-
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On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 10:21 PM, Geoff Flight [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The economy in the US IS the worst since the depression. The markets
starting falling year ago. You are the only personI know who is blaming
Obama for the financial crisis. Not surprising, since it is utterly
ludicrous.
For two years Obama's campaign has been saying over and over again that the
economy was the worst since the Great Depression.
OF course that was a lie. 6% unemployment and possitive growth does not make a
depression.
So of course people bailed when the market started to crash. After all, it
IN Australia they have dropped about 40%.
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Of Paul Hill
Sent: Thursday, 27 November 2008 8:56 AM
To: ProFox Email List
Subject: Re: [OT] How to determine if a market has hit THE bottom.
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at
What rubbish. You can't have a depression when only 6% are unemployed.
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--- On Wed, 11/26/08, Geoff Flight [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Geoff Flight [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The economy is bad, we've only got 94.5% of the people working! The
depression had 25% out of work, we have a ways to go yet
John Harvey
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Geoff Flight
Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 4:21 PM
To:
Economists have been saying for 2 years that a severe crash and recession
were I imminent because of the financial house of cards that had been built.
Obama was right in what he said.
I just don't understand how you can seriously shift the blame for economic
disaster to a CANDIDATE while
You obviously didn't hear about the Republicans, in 2006, including John
McCain, who said Freddie mac and fannie mae needed more overight. Meanwhile,
Obama's buddies were raping the system, and Barney Frank was defending
them
John Harvey
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I blame the Obama campaign for spreading fear to the uninformed.
Only a retard believes the economy is the worst since the Great Depression.
The early 80s had 17% interest rates and 10% unemployement. And nobody in the
80s called it a depression.
But if this idiot raises taxes now, then we can
Let's not forget that Barney Frank's butt buddy was a bigshot at Fannie Mae.
He was screwing him while the public was being screwed.
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--- On Wed, 11/26/08, John [EMAIL
Geoff,
I just don't understand how you can seriously shift the
blame for economic disaster to a CANDIDATE while
excluding an 8year presidency. Doesn't any part of that
sound just a little bit silly?
You need to understand that the only way the right has been able to keep the
illusion of
The economy was built on a house of cards. Lending to those who couldn't
even begin to repay. Unbelievably corrupt and incompetent lending practices.
Almost utter lack of regulation which Bush still supports even now. To blame
Obama is silly and demonstrates your utter lack of understanding about
Sure. The economy has actually sucked really bad since Reagan, we would have
been better off with Carter. LMAO
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--- On Wed, 11/26/08, Kristyne McDaniel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
So what level do you blame Bush for this?
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Michael Madigan
Sent: Thursday, 27 November 2008 9:28 AM
To: ProFox Email List
Subject: RE: [OT] How to determine if a market has hit THE bottom.
Sure. The economy
On Nov 26, 2008, at 4:47 PM, John wrote:
You obviously didn't hear about the Republicans, in 2006, including
John
McCain, who said Freddie mac and fannie mae needed more overight.
Meanwhile,
Obama's buddies were raping the system, and Barney Frank was defending
them
...and
Geoff,
So what level do you blame Bush for this?
That's difficult. How do you blame a moron for acting like a moron?
Kristyne McDaniel
http://www.kristynemcdaniel.com/blog
http://www.emryldadvantage.com/
http://www.mcstyles.com/
Whether you think you can, or you think you can't you are
I like it... You've had some good presidents and some ho-hum ones but it's
been a long time since you had a genuinely stupid one. Bush strikes me as
not only stupid but fairly devoid of wisdom and ethics. He will NOT be
missed.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL
He is so stupid, he beat the dems twice. What does that say about them?G
John Harvey
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Geoff Flight
Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 5:14 PM
To: 'ProFox Email List'
Subject: RE: [OT] How to determine if a
I think they all have contributed. The bailout is bipartisan insanity!
John Harvey
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Ed Leafe
Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 5:04 PM
To: ProFox Email List
Subject: Re: [OT] How to determine if a market
I blame the democrats for the failure of the housing market, due to giving
money to people who couldn't afford the loan, and the republicans for not
raising hell about it.
John Harvey
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Geoff Flight
Sent:
We blame him for not putting the same emphasis on getting rid of corrupt Fannie
Mae officials as he did with the war on Iraq.
He should have called out Chris Dodd and Barney Frank months before the crash.
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Stupid compared to who? Certainly he's far smarter and more successful than
you are.
I like it when foreign losers denigrate the President.
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--- On Wed, 11/26/08,
The elections were stolen, doncha know? LOL
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--- On Wed, 11/26/08, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: John [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [OT] How to determine if a
Smarter? Hardly!!! Successful? When I guess Stalin was more successful than
me too - hardly a comparison to be overly concerned about.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Michael Madigan
Sent: Thursday, 27 November 2008 11:12 AM
To: ProFox
Stallin was much more civil than you also.
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--- On Wed, 11/26/08, Geoff Flight [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Geoff Flight [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [OT] How to
Kristyne McDaniel wrote:
Madigan,
Care to explain this strange attack?
Not much explanation needed. You scream doom and gloom and then act
surprised when gloom and doom happen.
Thus far, with Obama not even in office yet, the markets are quieting down
as he reveals the new folks that
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